Pink is such a badass

[Bassomatic]

What a great voice and presence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SdnuU243k0&feature=related

[Brian Krashpad]

What a great voice and presence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SdnuU243k0&feature=related

I like that she's taken control of her career and writes her own material, unlike most of the other female pop singers out there.

Those Bogners looked tasty, too bad you couldn't hear them. Weird mix, all drums and lead vocals, couldn't hear the backing vox at all.

[Gas-man]

No doot.

Great pipes.

[rwe333]

Yeah, I think she's great.

This tune's a fave of mine - great vocal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25YGws-PWIk

[ThugLife]

i think after watching that, i may just quit music

[Rayneman]

I really dig her. She and her guitarist (the guy from that rock band show) did an acoustic thing at one of the awards shows awhile back. The song is called "Trouble" and it gave me the chills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY07vvp_zmE

[RickC]

I'd take that gig

:RoCkIn

[Scott K]

...but damn, she's ugly.

[Jahn]

She's really evolved into a great pop singer, hasn't she? Good on her.

[RockStarNick]

Awesome voice. Love it.

Fire the person who mixed that performance.

[RichieRich]

I'd tear it up.

She wouldn't be so tough after.

[snoggin]

That first song I have to say is weak in my view.. I DO like some of her other stuff and i like the energy but I just thought everything about that song was mediocre. I'm gonna check out some other youtubes and find one I like for reference

What a great voice and presence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SdnuU243k0&feature=related

[Ted Witcher]

...but damn, she's ugly.

Maybe, but great body. And more importantly, I bet she's hella fun behind closed doors (or probably even in front of them)...

[Shredcow]

Those Bogners looked tasty, too bad you couldn't hear them. Weird mix, all drums and lead vocals, couldn't hear the backing vox at all.

Try this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63M9Z0VTN7Q&feature=related

Use the High Quality version...

[PerryT]

Definite badass - she's great...and hot IMO...love her...

[semi-hollowbody]

I think pink is awesome...I have been a fan since day one...very talented and always like to hear her new material

And she has a killer body, and can look good with the right make up!

[Catoogie]

Faux badass

[MuseCafeChris]

I appreciate her rock'n'roll spirit. I also preferred the songs she wrote with Linda Perry on the Mizzundastood album.

[Taller]

She'd kick your ass, Beavis.

[derekd]

Gotta love the attitude and the talent. She seems to have become kind of a cross between Joan Jet and Pat Benetar. Better than Joan, not quite as gifted as Pat, but has their small body, big presence thing.

[thewhit]

I'd like to hear her do some traditional Blues and I'll bet she could tear up some Janis tunes.

[smallbutmighty]

I love her voice and stage presence, but I get weary of the "I don't need a man...'cause I'm tougher than a man" lyrics in almost every single song. I'm sure she's deeper than that...I'd like to hear some other sides of her. I guess maybe that's just her schtick....

ac

ps: I found the fake tears in that acoustic video strangely intriguing....

[SyKrash]

Yeah I went to school with the guitarist, Justin Derrico

Look him up he's a badass.

[aeolian]

In my book, she's the best female rock voice since Ann Wilson. I just think that it's unfortunate that it takes all that shtick to get over these days. From what I've seen she is a very attractive woman, but hides it behind all that Mad Max nonsense.

There is an occasional glimpse that she isn't taking all this quite so seriously as it appears. Kind of like Prince's little sideways smirks. Her latest song has this bit where she goes "check my flow, unh" and you can just see her grinning in the studio at how ridiculous that line is in a rock song but she's pulling it off anyway.

Actually I have a lot of respect for her ability to pull of the whole larger than life bit. It's not easy. And I don't think she really thinks she is all that badass.

Agreed, it would be interesting to see her just dressed normally, in a small club singing some blues and straight rock. Maybe even a legit love song instead of the angry gurlz bit.

[H.A.]

I'd like to hear her do some traditional Blues and I'll bet she could tear up some Janis tunes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Xw-ihiHSI :D

[sinasl1]

I appreciate her rock'n'roll spirit. I also preferred the songs she wrote with Linda Perry on the Mizzundastood album.

I did a track with her in the studio recently, with Linda producing... she sang her ass off and was really fun too. I left feeling like damn, it'd be fun to be in a band with her.

[Jon Silberman]

I'm still PO'd because at my kids' private school's silent auction two years ago, they had a Pink-autographed tambourine that I bid $100 for and at the last second some bastard snatched it for $110.

[reddgeetarzan]

Yeah, I think she's great.

This tune's a fave of mine - great vocal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25YGws-PWIk

+1 GREAT song and strong vocal performance. This one's hard to top- its just a well written, catchy pop song (the good kind!)

[therhodeo]

Hmmmm I guess I just don't get it.

[ChickenLover]

I never knew anything about this girl or her music and just assumed she was a 'bad girl' version of Britney Spears et al (i.e. Britney before she was a known degen). So one day her concert is on one of the HD stations and for whatever reason I decide to watch a song or two. At first I was shocked that she just didn't suck...a few songs later I thought; "Not really my thing but damn they put a LOT into that show and pulled it off very professionally." She's def got my respect. Like her voice.

[HurricaneJesus]

Liked it better when she had that Amazon-looking chick playing guitar.

[jzucker]

i don't feel it. She's got attitude but the voice is weak. No power at all. IMO, she's better singing dance/party stuff where I actually like her music.

[therhodeo]

Unfortunately, without the fake persona, we wouldn't be talking about her today.

I find it sad that her or any artist like her is big enough to generate talk here. People don't get famous on talent anymore. They get famous by having someone stand behind them with tons of money telling your they're talented.

[rwe333]

i don't feel it. She's got attitude but the voice is weak. No power at all. IMO, she's better singing dance/party stuff where I actually like her music.

Did you listen through to the end of the live vid I posted on the first page? Lotsa power/range, IMHO...

[reddgeetarzan]

i don't feel it. She's got attitude but the voice is weak. No power at all. IMO, she's better singing dance/party stuff where I actually like her music.

Listen to this one:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cJmghwq7k2I .... ya gotta wait for the chorus on this one- especially the last one.

I think she just doens't belt out all the time like all the over-singing we're all so used to hearing. She's not the greatest singer by any stretch, but to say she doesn't have power or is weak, I have to disagree whole-heartedly.

edit: I don't care for that new tune that much......but this tune I've listed did catch my ear and changed my opinion of her.

[jzucker]

Did you listen through to the end of the live vid I posted on the first page? Lotsa power/range, IMHO...

Uggg disagree. Listen instead of watching... ;)

[jzucker]

Listen to this one:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cJmghwq7k2I .... ya gotta wait for the chorus on this one.

I think she just doens't belt out all the time like all the over-singing we're all so used to hearing. She's not the greatest singer by any stretch, but to say she doesn't have power or is weak, I have to disagree whole-heartedly.

I agree that that clip sounds better but it's also studio processed. The other one captures her voice as it really sounds IMO. Hottie - Yes. Janis - No.

I'm Jack Zucker and I approve this message.

[reddgeetarzan]

I agree that that clip sounds better but it's also studio processed. The other one captures her voice as it really sounds IMO. Hottie - Yes. Janis - No.

I'm Jack Zucker and I approve this message.


I would agree with that statement.......

[rwe333]

Uggg disagree. Listen instead of watching... ;)

I was...

[Soundhound]

Killer voice. Have you heard Misery, her duet with Steve Tyler? That girl can sing.

[Maven]

I'm sorry but the lyrics to this song are just stupid:

I guess I just lost my husband
I don't know where he went
So I'm gonna drink my money
I'm not gonna pay his rent

I'm still a rock star
I got my rock moves


WTF????

and that melody for the verse sounds like something from a children's song...

i will admit she's got that janis joplin raspy voice thing down though...

[jzucker]

I'm sorry but the lyrics to this song are just stupid:

I guess I just lost my husband
I don't know where he went
So I'm gonna drink my money
I'm not gonna pay his rent

I'm still a rock star
I got my rock moves


WTF????

and that melody for the verse sounds like something from a children's song...

i will admit she's got that janis joplin raspy voice thing down though...

I don't hear any janis in her. Janis had power and Janis copied Billie Holiday and Big Mama Thornton. Pink listened to who? Madonna?!? I'm sorry but no. She's cute as hell though. ;)

[Prodigy]

I don't hear any janis in her. Janis had power and Janis copied Billie Holiday and Big Mama Thornton. Pink listened to who? Madonna?!? I'm sorry but no. She's cute as hell though. ;)

I think she's pretty butchy looking, but that's just me. :bong

[playon]

She seems like a cool person (& attractive), I respect her but the music is not my thing... the lyrics to "So What" are stupid.

[rob2001]

:worthless

[Scott K]

:worthless

This thread is better without pics.

[scottl]

Campy and cute vid... Worst mix I ever heard! I like her btw....

But, what's up with the bassist? I was distracted by the heavy handed and not so locked in bass playing.... Kind of a raunchy tone. Exacerbated by the mix.

Fun stuff though.

[Dave Orban]

Good stuff...! :dude

[GuitslingerTim]

In my book, she's the best female rock voice since Ann Wilson.

I'm aghast at your comparison. Ann Wilson is a prime candidate for the best female rock vocalist ever, sporting a set of pipes that were second to none in her prime. Comparing Pink to Ann Wilson is like comparing a croaking frog to a nightingale. Pink has mediocre singing and writing skills, and prior to music videos, would have had zero chance at a musical career.

[Ted Witcher]

I left feeling like damn, it'd be fun to be in a band with her.

Maybe, but I'm feeling it would be more fun to be in a bed with her.

[LavaMan]

Her voice is awful in that clip - like she straining to hit every note...and the Lyrics are even worse - how Trite can one be...actually hurt my ears - really...:messedup That skirt made her look pudgy too...

[imissmj]

I feel like she wrote that song singing in the shower and then someone wrote music around it. As expected it's catchy as most shower songs are...

[jzucker]

I'm aghast at your comparison. Ann Wilson is a prime candidate for the best female rock vocalist ever, sporting a set of pipes that were second to none in her prime. Comparing Pink to Ann Wilson is like comparing a croaking frog to a nightingale. Pink has mediocre singing and writing skills, and prior to music videos, would have had zero chance at a musical career.

If she was a guy covering SRV with that voice, folks would be all over "her" as the biggest pretender since Mayer. ;)

[realityczech]

Where's my dirt bike?

[thewhit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Xw-ihiHSI :D

Dynamite- Thanks for that.

[Jade]

Gotta love the attitude and the talent. She seems to have become kind of a cross between Joan Jet and Pat Benetar. Better than Joan, not quite as gifted as Pat, but has their small body, big presence thing.

I've got nothing against Pink, but..... "Better than Joan Jett"??

If I werent so polite, I'd tell you to lay off the pipe:bong

But since I am so polite, I'll just respectfully disagree LOL:banana

Of course Pat Benetar is vocaly in a completely different league.

Jade

[Jade]

I'm aghast at your comparison. Ann Wilson is a prime candidate for the best female rock vocalist ever, sporting a set of pipes that were second to none in her prime. Comparing Pink to Ann Wilson is like comparing a croaking frog to a nightingale. Pink has mediocre singing and writing skills, and prior to music videos, would have had zero chance at a musical career.

Tim.... I don't think I've read anything on this forum that i've agreed with more. :RoCkIn

[BobbyFudge]

She's talented and has a great voice...the music just didn't do it for me.

[Thomas27]

Ok hear me out. What the hell is wrong with you all? I'm all for freedom of choice; but i had to listen to this over-produced auto-tuned poorly written rubbish till recently. And there is nothing in any of this that you could possibly call music, i'm sure the videos are very cute and the message is probably acceptable (if there was more substance to it then "I'm so bloody wonderful, check out how independent from other people I am," I might be able to elaborate even) but Jesus H. Christ this is a musicians forum. I have nothing against you guys liking her; but claiming she's a decent musician?

Of course this is all just my opinion and I'm a bit testy about modern pop music at the moment so this is to be taken with an extreme grain of salt depending on who you are.
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[aeolian]

Her voice is awful in that clip - like she straining to hit every note...and the Lyrics are even worse - how Trite can one be...actually hurt my ears - really...:messedup That skirt made her look pudgy too...
If you listen to a few different songs of hers, you'll hear that she has the art of sounding strained down pat. It isn't the affected growl some singers use to try an add emotional content to lower notes. But then in some other song she'll turn around and hit an even higher note in full voice. Or in that Who Knew clip, she sounds like she's giving it all she has in the second chorus and then at the end she blows that out of the water and is all over it, without benefit of autotune or production. Yeah, there's some reverb and stuff on there, but that's her voice. I don't hear the artifacts of voice altering software going on.

So even though it sounds strained, it's actually effortless and she can pull off any lick she wants and make it sound however strained she feels that moment calls for. And she has a great feel for the phrasing of things. A welcome break from the modern yodeling you hear nowadays.

What she sounds like to me is someone with much more under the hood than she's showing. And making it look easier than it is. There are people who think Chris Cain just plays BB King licks than anyone else could play. Until they try to exactly cop something he's playing. There's an art to making it look easy.

[Soundhound]

I disagree very much. I always thought Heart was crap. Well intentioned, earnest crap. But crap. Ann Wilson had a big powerful voice, but I never heard any great blues or jazz in it, just big big big, no music. And those songs? Barracuda? Crazy on You? Rubbish, sorry. I'm sure they are very cool people, but that was a teenybopper band.

Pink, on the other hand, I think is indeed a badass. I'm not all that familiar with her stufff, but that song Trouble rocked, IMHO, and her duet with Steve Tyler, Misery? THAT is a set of pipes. She's a singer, a real singer. The way Joplin was a real singer. Heart? Gimme a f*ckin break...

I'm aghast at your comparison. Ann Wilson is a prime candidate for the best female rock vocalist ever, sporting a set of pipes that were second to none in her prime. Comparing Pink to Ann Wilson is like comparing a croaking frog to a nightingale. Pink has mediocre singing and writing skills, and prior to music videos, would have had zero chance at a musical career.

[realityczech]

If you listen to a few different songs of hers, you'll hear that she has the art of sounding strained down pat. It isn't the affected growl some singers use to try an add emotional content to lower notes. But then in some other song she'll turn around and hit an even higher note in full voice. Or in that Who Knew clip, she sounds like she's giving it all she has in the second chorus and then at the end she blows that out of the water and is all over it, without benefit of autotune or production. Yeah, there's some reverb and stuff on there, but that's her voice. I don't hear the artifacts of voice altering software going on.

So even though it sounds strained, it's actually effortless and she can pull off any lick she wants and make it sound however strained she feels that moment calls for. And she has a great feel for the phrasing of things. A welcome break from the modern yodeling you hear nowadays.

What she sounds like to me is someone with much more under the hood than she's showing. And making it look easier than it is. There are people who think Chris Cain just plays BB King licks than anyone else could play. Until they try to exactly cop something he's playing. There's an art to making it look easy.

?????

Wow.
Actually Pink is what she is with or without the spreadsheet.
Staying current gaining listeners ect...

[waxnsteel]

Looks great, sounds great, most of the songs are terrible. Love the videos and live footage. She is a badass. Definitely on par with Joan Jet or Pat Benetar vocally, but still can't touch Ann Wilson IMO.

[rwe333]

Ann Wilson - she mos def became a great singer, though her higher register singing in the early days was kinda grating... She sure sang the hell outta tunes like "Crazy on You" later in her career (though Heart was of little interest to me in the post-Roger Fisher years).

[jjboogie]

Liked it better when she had that Amazon-looking chick playing guitar.


You are talking about Bibi McGill. She plays with Beyonce now! She's cool!

http://www.bibimcgill.com/

That site is a bit outdated.....you can go to her myspace page too..... http://myspace.com/bibimcgill

[dixied]

Through ignorance, I always thought Pink was one of those bubblegum pop artists. That is until I opened for her last Summer in Germany. I caught a couple songs against my will, then ended watching the rest of the set. Good stuff all around. Cool chick too.

[jaycee]

I like a lot of pop music. It's not my music of choice but i can listen to the 'zoo' stations and I know a lot of the current stuff. Pink, to me, is a half way decent singer but is just so incredibly annoying that i can't listen to her. Her songs are no better, again-to me, than that 'I kissed a girl' refuse. (But I do like K. Perry's new song, the disco sounding one)

The Ann Wilson/Pink argument is just ridiculous. Pink has no pants next to Ann (which is interesting in it's own right).

[neastguy]

I'm trying to like her music, but I cant.. I dont see what you guys think is so great in that vid.. If I heard that on the radio in my car it would be off after 30 seconds..
her lyrics seemed pretty lame too.. I dunno.. you like what you like and she has an audience.. its just not me... I gave it a shot though....

[Bassomatic]

Pink has mediocre singing and writing skills, and prior to music videos, would have had zero chance at a musical career.

I don't agree at all. It's not like there wasn't a huge market for bubbly, light pop before MTV. Remember clssic's like "It's My Party"?

Pink's a strong singer with a great sense of the Big Pop Hook, and she's a damned compelling entertainer when she works the stage.

Ann Wilson is a great, great singer, but it's not like she craps diamonds. "Dog and Butterfly"? "Nothing at All"? Not exactly works of substance.

[gunnar1104]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q56pHCGrlc4

I really dig this one, she's great.
Tell me that voice isn't powerful.

[Bassomatic]

i don't feel it. She's got attitude but the voice is weak. No power at all. IMO, she's better singing dance/party stuff where I actually like her music.

While I'm not surprised you "don't feel it" (I don't particularly, either, as far as musical *substance* goes), to say her voice is "weak" is nuts, imo. And in the 1st Today Show clip she's owning the stage with that swaggering rock charisma in spades. If she was a guy, a bunch of the Classic Rock Knuckleheads from TGP would be all over it.

[KRosser]

I don't agree at all. It's not like there wasn't a huge market for bubbly, light pop before MTV. Remember clssic's like "It's My Party"?

Pink's a strong singer with a great sense of the Big Pop Hook, and she's a damned compelling entertainer when she works the stage.

Ann Wilson is a great, great singer, but it's not like she craps diamonds. "Dog and Butterfly"? "Nothing at All"? Not exactly works of substance.

Hey, I liked "Dog And Butterfly"...

OK, OK, so it reminds me of an old beloved high school girlfriend...


Back on topic - I think Pink is cool and all but in regards to the clip on the OP - it's a bit of a pet peeve of mine when you hear an intro guitar riff and then the vocal comes in and exactly doubles the riff melody...I don't know why...it always bothers me...

What was that one track she did with the one-chord vamp all the way through that Linda Perry wrote, something like "Get the Party Started"? I always loved the groove and rhythm track on that...

[Bassomatic]

Think it was "Comin' Up" or "I'm Comin' Up" or somesuch.

As a writer, she's a bit silly and sophomoric. That said, it's nice to see such ebullience and musicality from peers of Brittany and the like. One could easily make a strong record with Pink and never feel the need to reach for a tuning plugin, y'know?

[gunnar1104]

She can write well (I wish she did more), see my post above...

[hellbender]

I'm aghast at your comparison. Ann Wilson is a prime candidate for the best female rock vocalist ever, sporting a set of pipes that were second to none in her prime. Comparing Pink to Ann Wilson is like comparing a croaking frog to a nightingale. Pink has mediocre singing and writing skills, and prior to music videos, would have had zero chance at a musical career.

If I may offer that the OP might make the comparison with Ms Wilson to be of persons of Pink's contemporaries rather than all time comparisons.

This happens alot when different generations collide on a forum trying to establish meaningful comparisons of their generational heroes

[Jon Silberman]

I agree with you hellbender, especially on that last point.

As far as I'm concerned, the band is just fantastic that is really what I think and by the way, so is Pink. ;)

[hellbender]

Pink's got it goin on fer sure. She's been all over the circuit lately with her new album qnd that guitar player Josh gets my attention. Although that Youtube of Pink on her T100 Triumph..........sigh

[Chuckracer]

Pink Rocks!!

[Tonefish]

She's OK....I guess

[macheesmo3]

Ok hear me out. What the hell is wrong with you all? I'm all for freedom of choice; but i had to listen to this over-produced auto-tuned poorly written rubbish till recently. And there is nothing in any of this that you could possibly call music, i'm sure the videos are very cute and the message is probably acceptable (if there was more substance to it then "I'm so bloody wonderful, check out how independent from other people I am," I might be able to elaborate even) but Jesus H. Christ this is a musicians forum. I have nothing against you guys liking her; but claiming she's a decent musician?

Of course this is all just my opinion and I'm a bit testy about modern pop music at the moment so this is to be taken with an extreme grain of salt depending on who you are.
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[Bassomatic]

>>I might be able to elaborate even) but Jesus H. Christ this is a musicians forum. I have nothing against you guys liking her; but claiming she's a decent musician?<<

She sings well and is at least partly responsible for writing her own songs. I'll stick out my neck and say she a decent musician.

No one is claiming she's a heavyweight, highly skilled musician. Just saying she's a darned good performer. No cause for alarm.

[teddys]

Saw her at Jones Beach a few years back, she did an amazing Janis Joplin set. I was floored!
Shes a great talent

[aeolian]

I guess P!ink is this years John Mayer. ;)

[opdev]

http://octrendsetter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/carey-hart-and-pink.jpg

Someone had to.

[RichieRich]

http://octrendsetter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/carey-hart-and-pink.jpg

Someone had to.

and he definitely did.

[Tonefish]

Saw her at Jones Beach a few years back, she did an amazing Janis Joplin set. I was floored!
Shes a great talent

I could see her pulling that one off pretty well.:AOK

[robelinda2]

I love this Pink clip, she puts her vocal mic up to the guitar cab to make it louder for the crowd, good thinking! Great solo too, Justin is awesome. Solo is at 2:20.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwgfRjeW_IE

[gkinsingapore]

Great Singer, Great band that has plenty of license to play, wonderful live shows that are heavy on the theatrical aspect.

I just can't get a feel for her material though.

There was a thread not so long ago about songs that didnt work in a cover band. Pinks material was all over that from memory.....

[pete692]

She's got her audience and her "badassness" is just theater, but everybody is in on it. I don't think she needs to a thing to improve herself. A few years back she was struggling publicly with alcohol abuse at some awards shows, but it looks like she's pulled herself up out of it. Good on her. Tweenyboppers could find a lot worse crap to listen to.

[le_plastique]

Firstly, I'm no Pink fan. That said, I don't think she's talentless either. And with that said, why do people always have to comment on the female artist's perceived attractiveness? I must have missed all those threads where people were thinking of buying a Dumble clone because at the right angle Robben Ford looks like Brad Pitt or that, just maybe, John Mayer should be given another listen because he wears the cutest hoodies.

Whatever. I'm going to shake my money maker to The Gossip. (Bassomatic, I think you'd like em. Start is rough, but the singer gets into gear a little after 1:40)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVHHn5t424k

WARNING! The singer is far from an SI Swimsuit model. Your inner adolescent boy will compel you to say ridiculous things that will make your wife/girlfriend cringe, then wonder why she hasn't left you. WARNING!

Also, tangent over.

[big mike]

Love Pink. Great voice, interesting songs, and not just another Brittney fabricated act.

She's badass...and she rolls with a real band.

[big mike]

Firstly, I'm no Pink fan. That said, I don't think she's talentless either. And with that said, why do people always have to comment on the female artist's perceived attractiveness? I must have missed all those threads where people were thinking of buying a Dumble clone because at the right angle Robben Ford looks like Brad Pitt or that, just maybe, John Mayer should be given another listen because he wears the cutest hoodies.

Whatever. I'm going to shake my money maker to The Gossip. (Bassomatic, I think you'd like em. Start is rough, but the singer gets into gear a little after 1:40)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVHHn5t424k

WARNING! The singer is far from an SI Swimsuit model. Your inner adolescent boy will compel you to say ridiculous things that will make your wife/girlfriend cringe, then wonder why she hasn't left you. WARNING!

Also, tangent over.



How do you even compare that to Pink? She's got no where near the vocal chops.

[THebert]

I like Pink and don't view her in the same light as Brittney etc. Pink can actually sing, and I like her attitude.

[supryl]

I met the guy, Johan Schuster, who wrote So What when he was 16, maybe. Awesome drummer. You could tell he had something. Very talented. He is also a "singer".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQUZMKTx57E

[fast1]

he's not bad as a "singer". lolhttp://photosnag.com/img/3322/n09x0302vnsn/clear.gif

[Scott Peterson]

I really like Pink. She's got that bad-ass attitude thing down, she can project and the songs are engaging while still being accessable. Compared to 99% of the female vocal stuff in Top 40, she's head and shoulders above the auto-tuned crapfest they put forth as 'music'.

[Scott Peterson]

Firstly, I'm no Pink fan. That said, I don't think she's talentless either. And with that said, why do people always have to comment on the female artist's perceived attractiveness? I must have missed all those threads where people were thinking of buying a Dumble clone because at the right angle Robben Ford looks like Brad Pitt or that, just maybe, John Mayer should be given another listen because he wears the cutest hoodies.

Whatever. I'm going to shake my money maker to The Gossip. (Bassomatic, I think you'd like em. Start is rough, but the singer gets into gear a little after 1:40)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVHHn5t424k

WARNING! The singer is far from an SI Swimsuit model. Your inner adolescent boy will compel you to say ridiculous things that will make your wife/girlfriend cringe, then wonder why she hasn't left you. WARNING!

Also, tangent over.

Seriously, that has a groove. But lyrics like "...sometimes I feel goody-goody, but right now I feel naughty-naughty..." are pretty banal. IMHO.

And it has nothing to do with appearances.

[soulohio]

why doesn't linda perry just do her own songs?
sorry, but le pinke is a manufactured pop star and she has admited as much herself...

but why bother with all that practicing and jamming and shit when you can just do it? man, if i just knew the right people...

[Fred Farkus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q56pHCGrlc4

I really dig this one, she's great.
Tell me that voice isn't powerful.

The nice thing about that clip is no autotune. She really does have a decent voice, and that's saying a lot these days. I was kind of ho-hum on that particular song (nice sentiment and the guitarist was strumming the hell outta those 3 chords, but...kind of boring otherwise) but she definitely has good vocal and songwriting talent.

[Bassomatic]

but why bother with all that practicing and jamming and shit when you can just do it? man, if i just knew the right people...

I hope you're joking.

Are you saying you have Pink's level of skill as a frontperson/singer?

[Bankston]

Jeezus, why does every thread have to devolve into comparing different artists and pissing matches about who's better?

I love Pink. I think she's got an outstanding rock voice and is a great performer. I've seen several live performances by her and she ain't lip synching on stage. She also uses Autotune sparingly, more as an effect than a crutch.

Songs like "Just Like a Pill" and "Who Knew" are really good pop/rock songs, imo.

And best of all, she has awesome taste in guitarists. Rafael Moreira and Justin Derrico are both legit badasses, and she lets them strut their stuff live.

As for her appearance, she has a lot of different looks. The punk rock chic thing doesn't really do it for me, but when she dolls up, she can look smoking hot.

Check out her Live in Europe DVD to see an acoustic set of her singing Janis tunes with Rafael on guitar. Here's a taste of her "weak" voice, LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wGTuTrVchY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_1iJBIRRS0

[gdomeier]

I have one of their cd's. I picked it up after stumbling on a clip of them on youtube. They smoke.

[Fred Farkus]

Just checked out the vid for "stupid girl". Pretty funny but really a great song and a great message for young girls.

[semi-hollowbody]

yeah I like pink alot...she keeps cranking out cool tunes without the songwriters writing for her...and I wouldnt mind hitting that a few times...
not the prettiest chick in the world but she makes up for it in dirty rotteness :)

[voojo]

I always liked this video, sorry if it was posted earlier in this thread. I like the vocals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enj2caT5up4

[Jack Gilvey]

I. Love. Her.

[le_plastique]

How do you even compare that to Pink? She's got no where near the vocal chops.

Hey Mike, not making a comparison. Just resisting the idea that for female artists to be worth anyone's interest they have to have hour glass figures. Or that that figure is fair comphensation for artistic merit.

[le_plastique]

Seriously, that has a groove. But lyrics like "...sometimes I feel goody-goody, but right now I feel naughty-naughty..." are pretty banal. IMHO.

And it has nothing to do with appearances.

It is a cover of an old Timbaland produced song. I think the singers name was Alliayah. Not sure about the spelling.

[Bassomatic]

http://www.cuttingedge-sf.com/pro-audio-video-products/images/P/antares-auto-tune-5-tdm.jpg


I am embarrassed for all you Pink fans, mods included.

Look at it like a carbon credit. I will continue being cool for you so you can rave about processed pop stars. This one is on the house.

Think you're sure about AT and Pink, eh? Ever actually used it?

Besides, it's a production fad that even *great* singers are subjected to these days. That's just the way the biz roles - in production fads/style cycles. Remember the ubiquitous gated snare of the 80s?

So, Mr.Cool Credits - what are you spinning these days?

[big mike]

Hey Mike, not making a comparison. Just resisting the idea that for female artists to be worth anyone's interest they have to have hour glass figures. Or that that figure is fair comphensation for artistic merit.

Gotcha. ANd good point.
I'd dig her voice/attitude if she was hot or not.

I even don't care if she's AT or not it sounds good to me, and I enjoy it.
Hey, I love Morris Day and the Time too.

[Kenny D]

My $0.02 worth...

Not a Pink fan, or any girlie, pop-tart singers for that matter. but I thought that Trouble clip was pretty good. I actually liked her voice.

And, honestly, when was the last time rock lyrics were considered anything but cliche or stupid?

And, since when has looks been a prerequsite for musical ability? I don't recall Aretha Franklin ever being on the cover of Sports Illustrated or Maxim? For that matter have any of you ever really looked at Keith Richards or Steven Tyler??? Yikes, Ron Wood and Steven Tyler each had a movie goblin modeled after them (Legend and Harry Potter movies).

MTV was the worst thing to ever happen to music. It's all about everything but music. They should rename it to T&ATV.

I am not about to run out and buy a Pink CD, but I'll give her credit for having a real voice - at least in that clip.

[Bankston]

My $0.02 worth...

Not a Pink fan, or any girlie, pop-tart singers for that matter. but I thought that Trouble clip was pretty good. I actually liked her voice.

And, honestly, when was the last time rock lyrics were considered anything but cliche or stupid?

And, since when has looks been a prerequsite for musical ability? I don't recall Aretha Franklin ever being on the cover of Sports Illustrated or Maxim? For that matter have any of you ever really looked at Keith Richards or Steven Tyler??? Yikes, Ron Wood and Steven Tyler each had a movie goblin modeled after them (Legend and Harry Potter movies).

MTV was the worst thing to ever happen to music. It's all about everything but music. They should rename it to T&ATV.

I am not about to run out and buy a Pink CD, but I'll give her credit for having a real voice - at least in that clip.

Not trying to hijack the thread, but MTV hasn't been relevant to the music business in at least 15 years. Music videos aren't nearly as important in pop music as they used to be and MTV is not even Music Television anymore.

Pink came along at the same time as Britney, Christina, Jessica, Mandy Moore, etc. and was pushed as a similar pop princess. But she rebelled against that, didn't try to be a tart, and moved toward a more rock sound and insisted on writing or co-writing her own songs. She has not simply coasted on her image as some of those others have.

She's almost 30 now and her career is peaking. To me she's a talented artist who has been developing over the years.

And she hires badass guitar players.

[aeolian]

Not a Pink fan, or any girlie, pop-tart singers for that matter.
Neither is Pink. Have you heard Stupid Girl?

And if you scrape off all that punk gack, there is actually a very attractive woman underneath. Similar facial structure to Charlize Therron. Not that it matters to her singing abilities. But sometimes an attractive woman learns to hide it because she wants to be taken seriously for some other attribute.

Whatever, if it gives her the personna to hide behind that lets her write and sing the way she does, I'll deal with it and just enjoy the music.

[Kenny D]

Have you heard Stupid Girl?

Nope.

Like I said, I am not a fan and will end my investigation of Pink's music with this post. I only pursued it this far because some serious musicians here were crediting her with some skill that I didn't think she had and my curiosity was piqued. Not enough, however, to check her out any further.

[louderock]

I've worked on a few Pink songs in the studio. I played bass on "Just Like A Pill". Also, I sometimes work with a producer who has co-written and recorded songs with her. On the songs I've worked on and on the songs my friend has done, there is not auto-tune. Pink can actually sing very well and is 100% the real deal. Don't assume that just because something is pop and sounds good that it is all auto-tune and studio magic. Also, she has a lot to do with the songs on her record.

[robelinda2]

I've worked on a few Pink songs in the studio. I played bass on "Just Like A Pill".

Lucky man, I'm so jealous!!!! :dude

[THebert]

[QUOTE=Kenny D;6232813]

MTV was the worst thing to ever happen to music. It's all about everything but music. They should rename it to T&ATV.

QUOTE]

I so agree on this. After MTV, it mattered more how you looked and how the video was received than the music itself.

[Bankston]

[QUOTE=Kenny D;6232813]

MTV was the worst thing to ever happen to music. It's all about everything but music. They should rename it to T&ATV.

QUOTE]

I so agree on this. After MTV, it mattered more how you looked and how the video was received than the music itself.

It goes back further than MTV. Rock and Roll came along about the same time as television. Image has been important in the music business for at least 50 years, going back to Elvis' appearances on the Ed Sullivan show.

Image conscious movements like glam, shock, punk, boy bands, pop princesses, all pre-date MTV.

It is rare these days for a music video to break a new artist.

What's hurt the quality of music, imo, is the increasing reliance on technology in recording it . . . loops, samples, autotune, synthesizers, drum machines.

Which brings me back to Pink. We've heard in this thread from musicians who've actually worked with her and attest that she's the real deal, which is good enough for me. Check out one of her live performances and you can hear her belt it out with a live band making the music. To me she's the anti-thesis of the industry-generated pop star.

[aeolian]

Nope.

Like I said, I am not a fan and will end my investigation of Pink's music with this post. I only pursued it this far because some serious musicians here were crediting her with some skill that I didn't think she had and my curiosity was piqued. Not enough, however, to check her out any further.
I realize that there is a lot more music out there than any one person can keep up with. There are tons of things out there that I might very well enjoy, but I don't have the time to seek them out, listening to so much dreck to find them.

But, this closed minded attitude torques my squirrel. Stupid Girl is a direct slam on Britany and her ilk, Pink making a very direct and uncensored effort to distance herself from the "manufactured pop princesses" that you lumped her in with.

To not bother with music that you may not like is one thing. To state that someone is part of a category without knowledge of their material is just plain useless and does nothing to contribute to the discussion.

Other than some brief clip from Wayne's World, I've never heard Steve Stevens (I think that was him). My idea is that he is in the same ilk as folks like Vai and Gilbert, who I respect and admire but are not my personal taste in music. But I don't know for sure. And I would never jump in to a Steve Stevens thread condeming him for playing in a style I don't prefer. Certainly without taking some serious time to check out enough of his work to have some sort of informed opinion. Now, if I had the time, I might look into a Steve Stevens thread to see if there are some pointers and links that could open my eyes to something I might enjoy. I do have a couple of Satch and Vai albums, so I'm not totally adverse to the genre, and maybe Stevens brings something else that I might enjoy, or is actually something completely different that I might have an entirely different opinion of once I find things that speak to me.

There are four kinds of knowedge: Things you know you know, things you know that you don't know, things you don't know you know, and things you don't know you don't know. The last category is 75% of it.

[kstrat]

It is a cover of an old Timbaland produced song. I think the singers name was Alliayah. Not sure about the spelling.


It's Aaliyah. Interesting cover of that tune though.

[Tonefish]

Have you heard Stupid Girl?



Isn't that Garbage?

[reno88]

she's got that stripper vibe: weird grill, slammin' bod. i don't know anything about her music, nor do i care.

[wichita]

My God she is amazing. IT gives me hope that there are young talented Artists still working...

[Jade]

I admit that I don't know anything about Pink, so maybe I just need to listen to more of her stuff to get a better understanding of the High Praise she's getting, but from the two songs I have heard, I'm left going..Huh?

I'm comparing her to the likes of Joan Jett, Ann, and Nancy Wilson, Pat Benetar, etc, and I'm thinking she's not even in the same league as those ladies. Here's something AMAZING to me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LV0s_COjlk But I could certainly be wrong about Pink. Like I said, I'm not familiar with much of her stuff. So what would be something by her that I should check out that compares more favorably?

BTW, sorta on the same topic, The Donnas, are IMO the Real Deal. Saw them live a couple years ago, and they played, and sang their asses off, Tons of Energy, and Plenty of Talent. I highly recomend!

Jade

[aeolian]

I was listening to a Benetar song on the radio the other day and while it was great, I noticed that she had a kind of lightswitch effect between soft and hard. One of the things I like about Pink is the control she has and how she can gently shift into different modes depending on what she want to have going on at that part of the song. It's not just singing straight, or flat out belting. She can graduate it to make the part work.

And there is often an element of fun in her presentations. Similar to Prince. As if she's letting you in on the secret that she's not taking it all that seriously and it's just an act. Just little snippets here and there.

I'm not a P!ink fan by any large measure. Don't have any of her albums. Just bought a couple singles off of iTunes. But for what it is, I enjoy it and am glad to have the option to listen to her as compared to the manufactured princesses.

[robelinda2]

I was listening to a Benetar song on the radio the other day and while it was great, I noticed that she had a kind of lightswitch effect between soft and hard.

I heard Promises In The Dark the other day, what a voice Pat has! A few months ago i saw the Crossroads CMT special with Benetar and Martina McBride, Martina sang Promises In The Dark so good, so so good!

[Bankston]

This is my favorite Pink song. No autotune here. Her voice is prominent in a pretty sparse arrangement. Awesome melody. Raw emotion. Great control in her voice especially as the song builds toward the end. She pulled the guts out of this one, imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJmghwq7k2I

and doing it live even better than the studio recording:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25YGws-PWIk

I think she's earning her way into the same league as the great female rock singers of all time.

[bartmcartman]

I've always dug Pink! Love this!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0t1YKpJKvE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft9_MgPwqjs&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PK8Zi3rW3E

[cg]

I've seen Pink live twice and she was awesome in both shows! Her guitar player was a real player - and his Shiva sounded fantastic!

[dk_ace]

I did a track with her in the studio recently, with Linda producing... she sang her ass off and was really fun too. I left feeling like damn, it'd be fun to be in a band with her.


I'm so jealous.

Chris Cornell, Alicia Keys, and Pink are near the top of the list for artists I'd like to work with sometime. You kill me.

D

[dk_ace]

I admit that I don't know anything about Pink, so maybe I just need to listen to more of her stuff to get a better understanding of the High Praise she's getting, but from the two songs I have heard, I'm left going..Huh?

I'm comparing her to the likes of Joan Jett, Ann, and Nancy Wilson, Pat Benetar, etc, and I'm thinking she's not even in the same league as those ladies. Here's something AMAZING to me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LV0s_COjlk But I could certainly be wrong about Pink. Like I said, I'm not familiar with much of her stuff. So what would be something by her that I should check out that compares more favorably?

BTW, sorta on the same topic, The Donnas, are IMO the Real Deal. Saw them live a couple years ago, and they played, and sang their asses off, Tons of Energy, and Plenty of Talent. I highly recomend!

Jade

If I just grabbed two random songs from any of those artists there's a pretty good chance I would be left cold as well. That's just not enough to really make a decision about any artist.

+1 on the Donnas though. I think they're killer. I haven't had a chance to see them live though.

D

[voojo]

Here is that song I posted "Trouble" done acoustic. Tell me she can't sing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z8Vps9vONA

[Desperado]

She's a badass, good tunes, very nice lady apparently...my buddy played some sessions for her in Atlanta on her first album with LaFace. She's really changed from how she started out, much more R&B/Hip-Hop in the beginning, now she's more Pop/Rock.

One concern that I have for her is sustainability as a vocalist. Her vocal style is really going to tear the sh*t out of voice. It's very high impact on her vocal chords, and unless she's got really strong vocal chords, she's going to have shredded them by the time she's in her mid-30's.

[Ogre]

Obviously talented, but this "song" is a waste of time.

[Jade]

Here is that song I posted "Trouble" done acoustic. Tell me she can't sing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z8Vps9vONA

Thanks for that! Much Much Much better than the stuff I'd heard previously.

Very nice. Now I get it!
Jade