View Full Version : Bands who agree to let Guitar Hero use their likeness .......
Dr. Tweedbucket
11-01-2008, 02:43 AM
..... are they selling out, or is this a good promo thing for them? :confused: After watching the Aerosmith version, it's actually pretty cool ...... Guitar Hero does a great job of creating a realistic concert like setting! :bong
Wasn't it Van Halen or Led Zeppelin or someone like that who sued Guitar Hero? :nono
MudPies
11-01-2008, 06:01 AM
As I get older I sometimes wish I had an opportunity to "sell out", since hopefully that would mean a pretty nice payday.
voodoochile
11-01-2008, 06:37 AM
I used to think very idealistically, like a band is part of a movement or cause- selling out was a beterayal of ideals and their fans.
Today, I feel that if the band band does it on their own terms and maintains what they consider to be their dignity, makes some money, AND exposes their work to new people, that's just smart. To some it may be selling out, but like Alice Cooper said in the 70's (paraphrase) - 'I do this to make money. I enjoy it, but this is my living, and I need to manage by image as well as my checkbook.'
The Guy
11-01-2008, 06:51 AM
we all sell out every day. welcome to the church of dollars n cents.
Today, I feel that if the band band does it on their own terms and maintains what they consider to be their dignity, makes some money, AND exposes their work to new people, that's just smart. To some it may be selling out, but like Alice Cooper said in the 70's (paraphrase) - 'I do this to make money. I enjoy it, but this is my living, and I need to manage by image as well as my checkbook.'
yeah. ideals dont have any nutritional value. i wish i could make my living by playing music to millions of fans.
rob2001
11-01-2008, 07:02 AM
I'd agree with the posts so far. It's a bands job to sell out.
I think it was Gibson that was suing GH, claiming they had the idea first or somthing like that. Oh well, when somthing is making that kind of money, the lawyers come out in droves!
Neill
11-01-2008, 07:27 AM
I'd agree with the posts so far. It's a bands job to sell out.
it is?
I'd agree with the posts so far. It's a bands job to sell out.
it is?
Yes. Absolutely. Without need for apologies. Period.
rob2001
11-01-2008, 08:47 AM
it is?
I get your question and I guess it's always a fine line between art and marketing. At that level, an artist is dropped from the lable if they don't write music that sells. So in that sense, it's totally a bands job to sell out.
I suppose a band can choose to induldge thier creative side and write experimental stuff. But you won't see that on GH.
I think most of the music that might be considered for GH is beyond just art. Those bands are literally corperations, millions of dollars are generated. In a way, they sold out many years ago and GH is par for the coarse.
Bassomatic
11-01-2008, 08:49 AM
Yes. Absolutely. Without need for apologies. Period.
Please.
Tell that to Neil Young.
rob2001
11-01-2008, 08:54 AM
Please.
Tell that to Neil Young.
I was gonna mention him as an example. I'm not up on all the details, but he pushed the envelope with writing crazy, obscure stuff for a while there. Maybe he wanted out of his contract?
Neill
11-01-2008, 09:19 AM
I was gonna mention him as an example. I'm not up on all the details, but he pushed the envelope with writing crazy, obscure stuff for a while there. Maybe he wanted out of his contract?
or perhaps he was concerned with making good music, come what may.
waxnsteel
11-01-2008, 10:59 AM
Can't be done. "Good" music? I consider a great deal of Weird Neil's music to be garbage. The stuff I like/love from him could fit on a short album. Good is a useless adjective here. Maybe he was concerned with making the music he wanted or needed to make.
Who said, "Sold out? Every seat... every night."?
I think it's a pretty big letdown to some fans, of guys like Zeppelin, who play the game and would get a kick out of seeing them in it, while some elitist fans just eat up that the Mighty Zep just won't cave.
mrbill
11-01-2008, 11:03 AM
Who said, "Sold out? Every seat... every night."?
James Hetfield ( I think ).
Suproman77
11-01-2008, 11:12 AM
I never heard about anyone sueing Guitar Hero, but I do remember that Zeppelin was approached to do it not long ago and they said, 'No thanks.' They wouldn't allow outsiders to get ahold of their masters which is understandable.
Tone_Terrific
11-01-2008, 11:35 AM
They wouldn't allow outsiders to get ahold of their masters which is understandable.
..'cause, next thing you know samples and unauthorized usages are floating around and someone else is getting the cash and you have to get lawyers involved and it gets messy and expensive.
Much better to control the release of one's own product through the controlled channels, unless, you can REALLY sell out big time$$, then it's all good!
Bands at some level or marketed with a plan in mind are surely benefitting from GH and vid.
Neill
11-01-2008, 11:42 AM
Can't be done. "Good" music? I consider a great deal of Weird Neil's music to be garbage. The stuff I like/love from him could fit on a short album. Good is a useless adjective here. Maybe he was concerned with making the music he wanted or needed to make.
.
honest might have been a better word, but honest and good are synonymous, to me.
SyKrash
11-01-2008, 12:46 PM
selling out is compromising artistic integrity for money.
Have you talked to teenagers lately? Most of them couldn't name you a classic rock song or band other than the beatles. I think this is a new and great way for older bands to reach a younger audience.
It's also made guitar lessons 100x easier because I can pull out riffs of older bands (from gh/rock band) without seeming too dated.
A-Bone
11-01-2008, 12:51 PM
Who said, "Sold out? Every seat... every night."?
James Hetfield ( I think ).
Rigth band, but I'm pretty sure that the quote is originally from Jason Newsted.
henry_the_horse
11-01-2008, 01:37 PM
I would like to see if Frank Zappa was alive what he would do or say regarding GH. Or if GH would approach Zappa or the Zappa Estate to get licences of his music.
And regarding Led Zeppelin and "its" masters, does LZ own the masters of their recordings? I guess Atlantic does.
Regards
Dr. Tweedbucket
11-01-2008, 03:26 PM
I never heard about anyone sueing Guitar Hero, but I do remember that Zeppelin was approached to do it not long ago and they said, 'No thanks.' They wouldn't allow outsiders to get ahold of their masters which is understandable.
ok, I guess that's what I heard along with Gibson sueing them..... I got the two mixed up. :messedup
PUCKBOY99
11-01-2008, 03:43 PM
With all the crap kid listen to on the radio nowadays, I love that it brings back rock & roll into homes across America !
A friend has a teenage daughter that loves Guitar Hero. I became her hero when I burned the 1st 5 Aerosmith albums for her !!!!
Long live rock & roll....in ALL forms !!!! :band
:dude:dude:dude:dude
Texas_Blues
11-01-2008, 04:10 PM
They are making a Guitar Hero or Rock Band Beatles game );
rob2001
11-01-2008, 05:51 PM
Here';s a Wiki link to Neil Young. If you read "the 80's, experimental years", it says Geffen sued him for "not sounding like Neil Young"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Young
To the original question, I think it's great that kids are learning about classic rock music. Be it through thier parents or through GH. Zep's choice to not be a part of GH is keeping them from enjoying huge publicity. I guess they feel they don't need it and maybe they don't. I guess time will tell on the impact of music history. In a way, it would be a shame for a band like Zep to fade into obscurity because they didn't embrace the new mediums.
isfahani
11-02-2008, 12:15 AM
As I get older I sometimes wish I had an opportunity to "sell out", since hopefully that would mean a pretty nice payday.
oh hells yeah - I'd go on tour with Yanni in a second if he called!
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