View Full Version : TC Nova Reverb vs Line 6 Verbzilla
Recently purchased a TC Nova Reverb- sounds terrific, for natural sounding reverbs. Verbzilla's a little better at supernatural, ambient type reverbs. Both have a feature that for me's essential- a pre-delay control, where the delay between reverb and direct sound can be adjusted.
Neither has reverse reverb, however. I'm still waiting for a pedal that does this sound as usefully as my old Yamaha SPX90 (II).
garrettmhaynes
11-11-2008, 07:28 AM
verbzilla
sevenflatfive
11-11-2008, 09:22 AM
agreed.
I own a verbzilla and it is a staple in my sound.
hbentley
11-11-2008, 10:02 AM
i've had both of those, and prefer the verbzilla
Lt_Core
11-11-2008, 10:51 AM
I'm dying to try a Verbzilla. Hopefully I can trade for one soon.
drmathprog
11-11-2008, 10:56 AM
Is the Verbzilla a standard Boss 9C DC-type pedal?
jamison162
11-11-2008, 10:58 AM
Verb! Only other reverb I'm interested in trying now is the Hardwire. If the Hardwire's Lexicon Hall setting sounds better than the Verbzilla's, it'll be on my board.
Is the Verbzilla a standard Boss 9C DC-type pedal?
Yes.
The TC needs a 12 V adapter.
Andre357
11-11-2008, 11:54 AM
Is the Verbzilla a standard Boss 9C DC-type pedal?
yes,
but - you must use an isolated power supply , like a PP2, or it has to have it's own adapter.
If you daisy chain it with a one spot for instance you get hum...
all the tone core pedals seem to have this problem ( the internal power regulator isn't shielded or insulated or something like that.... )
BUT - the reverb sounds are fantastic. Warm and ear pleasing........studio quality IMHO.
yes,
but - you must use an isolated power supply , like a PP2, or it has to have it's own adapter.
If you daisy chain it with a one spot for instance you get hum...
all the tone core pedals seem to have this problem ( the internal power regulator isn't shielded or insulated or something like that.... )
BUT - the reverb sounds are fantastic. Warm and ear pleasing........studio quality IMHO.
Good to know, thanx!
jzucker
11-11-2008, 12:29 PM
Verb! Only other reverb I'm interested in trying now is the Hardwire. If the Hardwire's Lexicon Hall setting sounds better than the Verbzilla's, it'll be on my board.
Hardwire's not in the same league as the TC IMO. It's very overhyped on TGP as it's become the flavor of the month. Soon to be available in massive quantities at huge discounts in the emporium.
To me, the Springy and Nova are the two best overall if you want spring reverb. If you're not hooked on spring, the RRR, TRex Roommate and several others work well.
Andre357
11-11-2008, 12:43 PM
Hardwire's not in the same league as the TC IMO. It's very overhyped on TGP as it's become the flavor of the month. Soon to be available in massive quantities at huge discounts in the emporium.
To me, the Springy and Nova are the two best overall if you want spring reverb. If you're not hooked on spring, the RRR, TRex Roommate and several others work well.
Have you tried the verbzilla ??
richpjr
11-11-2008, 12:45 PM
Hardwire's not in the same league as the TC IMO. It's very overhyped on TGP as it's become the flavor of the month. Soon to be available in massive quantities at huge discounts in the emporium.
That is a VERY subjective and some people won't agree with that...
jamison162
11-11-2008, 01:17 PM
Hardwire's not in the same league as the TC IMO. It's very overhyped on TGP as it's become the flavor of the month. Soon to be available in massive quantities at huge discounts in the emporium.
To me, the Springy and Nova are the two best overall if you want spring reverb. If you're not hooked on spring, the RRR, TRex Roommate and several others work well.
The Nova stuff just doesn't appeal to me. I've had the Delay and it was just too hi-fi and not natural sounding. The Nova Modulator and Reverb units both seem to follow suit going by the demo videos and sound clips I've seen/heard.
The RRR is too much $$ for me, I'm actually quite satisfied with the Verbzilla. Just thought I'de try the Hardwire to see how it sounds with the supposed Lexicon verbs. We use a Lex. rack unit in church and it sounds great. I just want to most affordable, best sounding, smallish pedals I have available to me.
I think there is a huge difference in what folks want...depending on if they "play guitar" or if they are a "guitar player".
jzucker
11-11-2008, 01:51 PM
That is a VERY subjective and some people won't agree with that...
That goes without saying. Everything we utter is subject that that unit of measure.
Have you tried the verbzilla ??
I have not tried the verbzilla in quite some time. I tried one a few years ago, before I was doing demo videos. I wouldn't mind trying one or the behringer clone to do a video of.
jzucker
11-11-2008, 01:54 PM
The Nova stuff just doesn't appeal to me. I've had the Delay and it was just too hi-fi and not natural sounding. The Nova Modulator and Reverb units both seem to follow suit going by the demo videos and sound clips I've seen/heard.
Did you hear my latest "chasing the jimi/srv trane" video? I think the reverb sounds quite good but there is a lot of stuff going on effects-wise so it may not be the best measure. I should do a standalone demo of the tc reverb.
The RRR is too much $$ for me, I'm actually quite satisfied with the Verbzilla. Just thought I'de try the Hardwire to see how it sounds with the supposed Lexicon verbs. We use a Lex. rack unit in church and it sounds great. I just want to most affordable, best sounding, smallish pedals I have available to me.
I think there is a huge difference in what folks want...depending on if they "play guitar" or if they are a "guitar player".
I'd have a hard time believing the hardwire uses the lexicon algorithms. It sounds only marginally better than the digiverb. Don't get me wrong, I *LOVE* the digiverb but not when compared to some of the more expensive pedals. To me, the hardwire is a digiverb with better converters and bypass.
buddaman71
11-11-2008, 02:31 PM
The Verbzilla is the best small-pedal format verb device ever.
Also, for what it's worth, I ran mine (plus an Echo Park and a Tap Trem) on a Furman SP8PB powered pedal board and they worked perfectly and had zero hum.
Hardwire's not in the same league as the TC IMO. It's very overhyped on TGP as it's become the flavor of the month. Soon to be available in massive quantities at huge discounts in the emporium.
(snip)
I agree, from the clips I've heard of the Hardwire.
richpjr
11-12-2008, 12:22 AM
I don't own either the Verbzilla or the Hardwire but when playing with both at a store for about a half hour I liked the Hardwire better.
Defendant
11-12-2008, 04:17 AM
I had a verbzilla but ended up ditching it for the Nova prior to going out on tour. The decision wasn't based around sonics as much as around the nova having a preset, a more roadworthy build (one singer's foot to those verbzilla knobs...) and lower noise. I took the nova mod out too, and that has moved on (great idea, uninspiring sounds) but the reverb has stayed.
haven't tried the hardwire reverb, but it'll have to be a big improvement on the hardwire delay...
Stringmaster
11-12-2008, 06:08 AM
Can the Nova be powered via a Pedal Power II, and is it true bypass? Any hiss?
Defendant
11-12-2008, 12:47 PM
Can the Nova be powered via a Pedal Power II, and is it true bypass? Any hiss?
The Nova is 12v, so you should ba able to switch a PP2 output to 12V for use with it.
It's buffered bypass but it's a very high quality one. In fact, one of the reasons I took it on tour was that I needed a buffer somewhere in my chain and I liked my rig better with the Nova's buffer than without.
The nova is very low noise.
jzucker
11-13-2008, 05:29 AM
The Nova is 12v, so you should ba able to switch a PP2 output to 12V for use with it.
It's buffered bypass but it's a very high quality one. In fact, one of the reasons I took it on tour was that I needed a buffer somewhere in my chain and I liked my rig better with the Nova's buffer than without.
The nova is very low noise.
Mine wouldn't work off the PP2+ set to 12V
drod2045
11-13-2008, 09:18 AM
Mine wouldn't work off the PP2+ set to 12V
Mine did but it was extremely noisy. If you want to use the PPII, i think you have to get a Y cable
FWIW - the octo setting on the verbzilla is becoming a stable sound for me. Love this pedal
drod2045
11-13-2008, 09:20 AM
If you check out my Myspace in my sig - Im using the octo setting verb, TRex Reptile delay and Nova modulator (slight chorus with slight trem) on the intro high pitched melody (and throughout the song) in the song "Streetlamp Limelight"
jamison162
11-13-2008, 09:25 AM
The Nova is 12v, so you should ba able to switch a PP2 output to 12V for use with it.
As Jack said, his unit didn't work with the PP2 at 12v. That's probably because:
Voltage is the potential to deliver current. It's only 1/2 the equation. You really have to look at how much current is required. Not sure about the PP2, but my BBE SupaChargers can only supply 200mA on 2 of the 8 supplies. The Nova Reverb requires 300mA min. (0.3A). So no matter what voltage is selcted, if the current isn't available, the unit will not function properly, if at all.
Lt_Core
11-13-2008, 10:38 AM
I want a Verbzilla strictly for the Octo and Cave settings. Looking for one in the Emporium right now but no luck yet.
drod2045
11-13-2008, 10:42 AM
lt core - octo and cave are exactly why I have it
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