When Mods delete your thread....

[Suproman77]

...Why don't they bother to notify the OP and explain why they did it?

In case your wondering, yes, I just had yet another thread deleted, but since I don't even know which Mod deleted it, I don't even know who to write to about it! Personally, I really don't think I should have to.

You'd think a little common courtesy should be extended, so as to prevent any hard feelings and misunderstandings. What gives?

[pir8matt]

Is this related to the disappearance of the random picture thread? I kinda wondered why that got deleted, too.

[Suproman77]

Is this related to the disappearance of the random picture thread? I kinda wondered why that got deleted, too.

Yeah, that's the one. I didn't delete it.

[DiazDude]

You can thank some of the posters...

[Suproman77]

You can thank some of the posters...

I don't want to thank anyone for anything...I just think we deserve an explanation when this stuff happens and we shouldn't have to hunt a mod down for it either. That should be standard procedure...mod deletes thread, mod explains why to the OP. Done.

[pir8matt]

You can thank some of the posters...

What was getting posted? R-Rated stuff?

I love the random pics, I was going back to see what else showed up, and *poof*, it was gone!

[Suproman77]

What was getting posted? R-Rated stuff?

I love the random pics, I was going back to see what else showed up, and *poof*, it was gone!

You know, if that's the case, someone can tell me about it. Also, one or two pics can be deleted. Why nuke the entire thread anyway? There was nothing even remotely against the rules in the kind of thread that was intended to be. Man, it's almost impossible to have fun in here anymore...someone always has to take things too far and ruin it.

[DiazDude]

My guess is if it was getting out of hand it wasn't worth their time to have to monitor it. It would just keep snowballing.
Can't blame them really.
Why don't you PM the mod of your choice for your explaination?

[scottlr]

Probably because the chaos was growing. I suppose deleting the offensive ones, then a warning post might have worked, but I imagine they are just tired of doing that, and having to do that. The thread had possibilities, but some bad judgement posts have to be what got it nuked.

[Flyin' Brian]

If it starts to get out of hand and the thread is extensive, the mods/admins really don't have the time to read through the whole thing. I think they scan it and if they see enough objectionable stuff (which I personally think was there) they just can the whole thing.
Can't blame them, they have lives too.

[ChickenLover]

Better yet...leave some sort of 'marker' for the thread (identifiable by the orig thread title) and state right in it that the thread was deleted and why. That way not only does the op find out...everyone else coming back to read the most recent posts in the thread they just saw two hours ago also finds out. It's not just inconsiderate to the op...it's inconsiderate to everyone.

[Suproman77]

Probably because the chaos was growing. I suppose deleting the offensive ones, then a warning post might have worked, but I imagine they are just tired of doing that, and having to do that. The thread had possibilities, but some bad judgement posts have to be what got it nuked.

In other words, they're just getting lazy, right? Screw the OP and everyone else who posted there, just kill the thread?

I think we all deserve a little better treatment than that. Some of us here work very hard to stay within the rules and we don't deserve to be treated like trolls.

[Midnight Lady]

Marco, the same thing happened to me last week. The real people to blame are the ones who KNOWINGLY post objectionable content in someone else's thread. It doesn't seem to matter how innocuous the subject of the thread is, SOMEONE will find some trash to post and ruin it for everyone.

My sympathies because that should have been a really fun thread and I was enjoying a lot of the posts there.

It makes most of us hesitant to start threads about anything.

:(

[Suproman77]

Better yet...leave some sort of 'marker' for the thread (identifiable by the orig thread title) and state right in it that the thread was deleted and why. That way not only does the op find out...everyone else coming back to read the most recent posts in the thread they just saw two hours ago also finds out. It's not just inconsiderate to the op...it's inconsiderate to everyone.

That's a decent idea...I like it.

[scottlr]

If it starts to get out of hand and the thread is extensive, the mods/admins really don't have the time to read through the whole thing. I think they scan it and if they see enough objectionable stuff (which I personally think was there) they just can the whole thing.
Can't blame them, they have lives too.


In other words, they're just getting lazy, right? Screw the OP and everyone else who posted there, just kill the thread?

I think we all deserve a little better treatment than that. Some of us here work very hard to stay within the rules and we don't deserve to be treated like trolls.

I think Brian hit it on the head. They aren't paid to do this.

Better yet...leave some sort of 'marker' for the thread (identifiable by the orig thread title) and state right in it that the thread was deleted and why. That way not only does the op find out...everyone else coming back to read the most recent posts in the thread they just saw two hours ago also finds out. It's not just inconsiderate to the op...it's inconsiderate to everyone.

Not a bad idea.

[Suproman77]

Marco, the same thing happened to me last week. The real people to blame are the ones who KNOWINGLY post objectionable content in someone else's thread. It doesn't seem to matter how innocuous the subject of the thread is, SOMEONE will find some trash to post and ruin it for everyone.

My sympathies because that should have been a really fun thread and I was enjoying a lot of the posts there.

It makes most of us hesitant to start threads about anything.

:(

I hear ya on that, but I just think that there is a better way to go about it, you know? I know I'm not alone on this and it's about time someone said something.

[wsaraceni]

why not just ask the mods this question instead of posting it. then you could get the answer straight from their mouth.

[Midnight Lady]

I hear ya on that, but I just think that there is a better way to go about it, you know? I know I'm not alone on this and it's about time someone said something.I tried. I'm afraid it will fall on deaf ears. They are busy - I understand that part of it. I was a Mod on another forum for several years and it's a thankless job. I don't know what the solution is.

[Suproman77]

Why don't you PM the mod of your choice for your explaination?

I've done this in the past and what I think ends up happening is that it turns it into a huge problem when it should only be a simple, localized problem. I don't like the thought that I have to disturb possibly several mods and admins who weren't involved for something like this every single time it happens.

why not just ask the mods this question instead of posting it. then you could get the answer straight from their mouth.

I think that if I bring this out in the open, we can maybe settle all this once and for all. Maybe not, but it's worth a shot.

[tonefreak]

I hear ya on that, but I just think that there is a better way to go about it, you know? I know I'm not alone on this and it's about time someone said something.

Moderators don't have the time to explain why they delete every single thread. This is not a full time job for them and they do a lot to keep this site alive as it is.

There are so many more important things in life to worry about... why add this to your list?

[Suproman77]

Moderators don't have the time to explain why they delete every single thread. This is not a full time job for them and they do a lot to keep this site alive as it is.

There are so many more important things in life to worry about... why add this to your list?

Here's the deal. I've been members of other non-guitar related forums where the mods took all the time necessary to explain things and delete posts instead of threads. I thought it worked out nicely most of the time.

Perhaps if they don't have time to do that here, maybe they need more mods?

[jtm622]

Man, I don't know, but I'll bet a mod will be chiming in any time now to answer all of your questions!!!

[Suproman77]

Man, I don't know, but I'll bet a mod will be chiming in any time now to answer all of your questions!!!

Good, I hope all of them show up and maybe they can explain their procedures to all of us. That would be nice.

[BobbyFudge]

It's a freak'n message board,not the g'dam Magna Carta.

[DiazDude]

Here's the deal. I've been members of other non-guitar related forums where the mods took all the time necessary to explain things and delete posts instead of threads. I thought it worked out nicely most of the time.

Perhaps if they don't have time to do that here, maybe they need more mods?

More Mods? Maybe a liitle more thought & common sense from posters is more like it. :AOK

[big mike]

In other words, they're just getting lazy, right? Screw the OP and everyone else who posted there, just kill the thread?

I think we all deserve a little better treatment than that. Some of us here work very hard to stay within the rules and we don't deserve to be treated like trolls.

you mean like, instead of emailing say a mod to find out for you, you character assassinate us all as 'lazy'. Never mind that this is a volunteer position and we actually have jobs and lives?

Who's the lazy one?

For me, more than 5-7 posts need to be deleted, I nuke the thread. It's usually by then, far beyond saving, or the benefit of reopening outweighs the time involved. I don't usually advise OP because it's usually VERY clear why something went boom. And 90% of the time the 'I closed the XXXX' threads end up getting nuked for the same reasons.

Hope that answers your question, No I didn't nuke your thread, but I'm feeling too lazy to see which one it was.

[Scott Peterson]

I pulled that thread.

I didn't contact the OP because I am working. At my business. Where I earn my living. In the middle of my day. Of my life.

It's 2pm EST right now. I've not eaten breakfast. I have not eaten lunch. I missed my workout. My youngest son, age 7, was up all last night puking his guts out all over his bed, the floor and the bathroom. I have a lot of work to finish today. I'm focused and that's that.

Sometimes I can't do everything to please everybody all the time. Sometimes, other moderators actually also are busy living their lives. Sometimes life isn't perfect. Something, obviously, that is missed.

I would have contacted the OP once I caught a second... privately. But I guess that's not needed now.

Peace.

(*Back to work..........)

[Scott Peterson]

Oh, and for the record that thread was pulled for near pornographic images that were all over it.

But I guess the OP didn't catch that. Or maybe he wanted that after all. I don't know.

Or whatever.

[big mike]

Here's the deal. I've been members of other non-guitar related forums where the mods took all the time necessary to explain things and delete posts instead of threads. I thought it worked out nicely most of the time.

Perhaps if they don't have time to do that here, maybe they need more mods?

And how many members were on the board?

[tonefreak]

I didn't contact the OP because I am working. At my business. Where I earn my living. In the middle of my day. Of my life.


(*Back to work..........)

That says it all right there!

IMO, you don't owe any explination when you delete a thread... there are way more imporant things going on... like life.

[Scott Peterson]

That says it all right there!

IMO, you don't owe any explination when you delete a thread... there are way more imporant things going on... like life.

Well, I'll partially agree.

I think it is important to communicate why any given thread was pulled.

But sometimes it takes a few minutes, or hours. And what's funny is that some folks forget all that, post a 'where did the thread about .... go?' and start it up again without simply contacting a moderator.

Which seems for some folks is really hard to do (not you, but just a comment). :dunno

[jaycee]

Honestly, i like the 'marker' idea for the thread. You have the thread title and if you click it you see "thread deleted for obscene images' or 'thread deleted due to arguing' etc. Wouldn't take a second and there would be no more 'what happened to......' threads which many times pick up right where the original left off. I think it's a great idea.

[tonefreak]

Well, I'll partially agree.

I think it is important to communicate why any given thread was pulled.

But sometimes it takes a few minutes, or hours. And what's funny is that some folks forget all that, post a 'where did the thread about .... go?' and start it up again without simply contacting a moderator.

Which seems for some folks is really hard to do (not you, but just a comment). :dunno

Ah... yes, very fair assessment.

I wish I could be a level headed as you guys are... I could never run a message board.

[Suproman77]

Oh, and for the record that thread was pulled for near pornographic images that were all over it.

But I guess the OP didn't catch that. Or maybe he wanted that after all. I don't know.

Or whatever.

Yes, I started that thread, I didn't catch what I deemed to be near pornographic images, and that is certainly NOT what I wanted.

See what I mean? Paint us all with the same brush and maybe I'll do the same with the mods when I call them 'lazy'. Works both ways.

Thanks.

[big mike]

Honestly, i like the 'marker' idea for the thread. You have the thread title and if you click it you see " thread deleted for obscene images' or 'thread deleted due to arguing' etc. Wouldn't take a second and there would be no more 'what happened to......' threads which many times pick up right where the original left off. I think it's a great idea.


And then IMO, you still get the 'why was XXX deleted threads'.

I don't know if the software even allows that.

[Suproman77]

And how many members were on the board?

I have a better quesiton. What's the mod to member ratio here? Do you think it's nearly enough?

[big mike]

Yes, I started that thread, I didn't catch what I deemed to be near pornographic images, and that is certainly NOT what I wanted.

See what I mean? Paint us all with the same brush and maybe I'll do the same with the mods when I call them 'lazy'. Works both ways.

Thanks.


i believe Scott was talking in general terms.

Frankly if you take this or ANY internet posting that seriously, I suggest taking a short break. I get riled up too, and usually over stupid stuff, so I turn off the computer and that helps immensely.

[big mike]

I have a better quesiton. What's the mod to member ratio here? Do you think it's nearly enough?

I don't do math. I'm a guitar player, so I know 1/2 the alphabet and how to count to 2 twice.

yes, I believe the mod ratio is fine. Stuff happens, and people get busy, particularly around this time of year, and sometimes we can't get there fast enough.

Sometimes we step all over each other and infract people too often, for the same thread fire off multiple emails, etc. Infrequent, but it do happen.

I think the # is fine.

[Suproman77]

i believe Scott was talking in general terms.

Frankly if you take this or ANY internet posting that seriously, I suggest taking a short break. I get riled up too, and usually over stupid stuff, so I turn off the computer and that helps immensely.

Well, I don't get riled up and look to start trouble. It's not nearly the first time this has happened nor am I the first person it's happened to, so I thought I'd start a discussion about it.

A simple one line explanation would suffice...that's all I ask. Is that too much?

[big mike]

many times it's not the question, it's the approach.

And Scott addressed it. You'd have gotten a PM or Email later on.
Again, as volunteers, it doesn't mean we can work to your time table of when you expect notification.

[Suproman77]

many times it's not the question, it's the approach.

And Scott addressed it. You'd have gotten a PM or Email later on.
Again, as volunteers, it doesn't mean we can work to your time table of when you expect notification.

Alright great. If I know that I'm going to get one eventually, then I'm totally cool with that.

In the past, I've gotten nothing, so I really wasn't expecting one this time either. If you tell us we will get one sooner or later, I have nothing to get upset about...I'm not an impatient person..I can wait.

[big mike]

I think you've gotten the answer, if Scott pulls it, he'll let you know.

Frankly I don't always. Just going to be honest.

[studiodunn]

They owe you nothing. You are a visitor here and only here by the good graces of a few guys VOLUNTEERING to moderate this place. You know what kind of time it would take to explain there actions to every poster who feels slighted?

If it really matters to someone that much I would suggest stepping away from the computer and going outside for some sunshine and fresh air.

It's only the internet ;)

[Jon Silberman]

Suproman77, don't worry, I'm just like you - the missus is telling me all the time to "chill with your immediacy problem."

P.S. You could choose to laugh with this post, you know. :)

[Chiba]

it turns it into a huge problem when it should only be a simple, localized problem.
You mean like a thread that somebody starts that gets out of control and has a preponderance of posts on it that skirt or cross the line?

My favorite part about deleting threads is when you do it, THEN take the time to notify the OP about it and THEY take the time to send you back a hate-filled, bitter, angry tirade of a PM.

That's where all the fun starts.

Usually, people know why their thread got deleted. Sometimes they will PM or e-mail and ask why. Most times, they don't, because they know exactly why their thread got deleted.

It's like any other group of people. Some people need an explanation, some people do not. Some people will understand and accept an explanation, some people will explode and react irrationally.

The bottom line is this: NO MATTER WHAT THE MODS DO, SOMEBODY WILL ALWAYS THINK THEY DID THE WRONG THING.

--chiba

[jaycee]

I don't do math. I'm a guitar player, so I know 1/2 the alphabet and how to count to 2 twice.

Sig worthy.

[Suproman77]

I think you've gotten the answer, if Scott pulls it, he'll let you know.

Frankly I don't always. Just going to be honest.

Well, I want to be honest as well and say that you and the other mods probably should take Scott's lead and do the same. You would be improving the relationships that the members here have with all of you, so that it becomes much less of an Us vs. Them scenario.

It's nothing personal...I'm just a nobody poster with concerns that I think a lot of us here holds, so I thought I'd discuss it. It's up to you either way, but I ask that you consider it.

[eBay]

I didn't see the thread but it must have been pretty bad or else the mods usually just close them so no more posts can happen. I've seen a few closed that should have been deleted in the past.

[Scott Peterson]

Suproman77,

Relax. You are making a mountain out of a molehill.

Have some consideration for others, in this case the moderator team. You've got how many posts on this thread? We are all on the same team here.

The key here is you would have been contacted. By me or someone else. If you don't get contacted and wonder what happened, PM or email me or a moderator. We are not hard to find. We don't live on TGP. We don't follow you or your threads. We react when we see things, or when they are reported. It's not personal.

There is no 'us vs. them' here. We are all down in the dirt together as a community. It's moderator enforced, but member policed. It's not perfect, nor was it ever intended to be.

[Scott Peterson]

I didn't see the thread but it must have been pretty bad or else the mods usually just close them so no more posts can happen. I've seen a few closed that should have been deleted in the past.

There were fetish pictures of guys in leather, lots of giggity-breast shaking moving gif's of young girls and some other stupid stuff.

This isn't HC. It's cool, we are not prudes, but HC does that stuff better and it fits better over there. It simply doesn't belong here.

You didn't miss anything.

[Lawn Jockey]

We are all guests here. We should just abide by the rules. They are NOT hard.

The admins and mods (even Big Mike though he's angry at me) are superior to what you'll find on many forums.

Chill out Marco.......please........it's no big deal.......unless you keep making it one.

Move on.

[stratzrus]

A simple one line explanation would suffice...that's all I ask. You received your explanation and yet you continue to post objections...apparently that's not all you ask.

I'd let it go. Really.

[Suproman77]

You received your explanation and yet you continue to post objections...apparently that's not all you ask.

I'd let it go. Really.

You're right, but I explained the other thing I wanted earlier...not to kill threads when only a post or two needs to be deleted, but that's fine.

I won't belabor this point any longer. Like the mods and admins, I also have a life to live and more important things to worry about. Point taken.

Back to your regularly scheduled program.

[Millul]

Ehi, we have the same first name!
but mine's better!

[MikeS]

Moderators don't have the time to explain why they delete every single thread.

BS! And not even close. I'm a member of many different types of forums, and as stated by others, they have someone take a couple seconds to explain why. It may only be one sentence or less, but they extend the courtesy not only because it's the right thing to do, but because it makes things clear so they don't continue to happen.

The difference is I actively participate in those forums, but only drop in here when I'm bored.

[Suproman77]

Ehi, we have the same first name!
but mine's better!

Eh, cumpari. Che se dice?

:AOK

[tedzepplin]

A thread I started a long time ago was deleted and I had no idea why and no one contacted me to tell me why and I didn't read anything offensive in any of the posts on the thread unless if some one came in at the end and went nuts or something.

I still wish the thread was there. I wanted to copy some info from it but I was letting it build up before I got to copy the info.

It was a thread about how the Stray Cats song The Stray Cat Strut sounded so similar to Richard Hell and the Voidoids - Blank Generation song. I wondered why I had never heard of a copyright infringement case when the songs are so similar. Then some people posted several songs that had the same chord progression - but none were as similar as the two I originally asked about. I wanted to copy the list of all those songs so I could listen to them again, but the thread was deleted.

Any idea what ever happend to that thread?

Thanks.

[Millul]

Eh, cumpari. Che si dici?

:AOK

Tutt'a posto, ciccio, grazie!
saluta a casa, eh?!? e chiudi l'uscio quando esci!

[DoubleRGuitars]

internet toughness.

[jgyn]

(snip)
It was a thread about how the Stray Cats song The Stray Cat Strut sounded so similar to Richard Hell and the Voidoids - Blank Generation song. I wondered why I had never heard of a copyright infringement case when the songs are so similar. (snip)


Wow, I never thought of that but those 2 songs do sound similar!

[big mike]

... (even Big Mike though he's angry at me)...


I didn't know I was mad at anyone.

A thread I started a long time ago was deleted and I had no idea why and no one contacted me to tell me why and I didn't read anything offensive in any of the posts on the thread unless if some one came in at the end and went nuts or something.

I still wish the thread was there. I wanted to copy some info from it but I was letting it build up before I got to copy the info.

It was a thread about how the Stray Cats song The Stray Cat Strut sounded so similar to Richard Hell and the Voidoids - Blank Generation song. I wondered why I had never heard of a copyright infringement case when the songs are so similar. Then some people posted several songs that had the same chord progression - but none were as similar as the two I originally asked about. I wanted to copy the list of all those songs so I could listen to them again, but the thread was deleted.

Any idea what ever happend to that thread?

Thanks.

How long? I show nothing the software will find as deleted. Within a few days, I could tell you, anything passed that, no way to know.

[big mike]

Well, I want to be honest as well and say that you and the other mods probably should take Scott's lead and do the same. You would be improving the relationships that the members here have with all of you, so that it becomes much less of an Us vs. Them scenario.

It's nothing personal...I'm just a nobody poster with concerns that I think a lot of us here holds, so I thought I'd discuss it. It's up to you either way, but I ask that you consider it.

And I'd like you to read Chiba's post.
As many times as I've been jumped on for NOT letting someone know, I've got double the amount of pm and email exchanges about how I'm facist, or have a superiority complex, or are a controlling prick, etc. For asking someone to stay within the rules. Or not post subject matter and start threads against the rules.

So in short. No matter what we do, someone gets pissed at us and thinks we're wrong. I personally run about 50/50 so I guess I"m pissing everyone off equally.

[Scott Peterson]

I usually get called a Nazi or an egotist.

Which, if you really know me, is pretty funny.

Again, this is all a tempest in a teapot. It's a forum, not a lifestyle. Let's all relax. Or carry on and create stress and strife. :D

[Kiwi]

I don't do math. I'm a guitar player, so I know 1/2 the alphabet and how to count to 2 twice. -Big Mike

Sig worthy.

Indeed! :)

=K

[big mike]

Wow. I'm in good company in your sig line there Kiwi.

[Caretaker]

If a mod has occasion to delete a thread, the "poster" that is responsible fpr getting it delete should be reprimanded. We ALL know better and read and signed the same rules. Multiple offenses should result in being shown the door. That will save a lot of threads from getting out of hand and dipsposing of some of the trash, making the jobs of the mods easier and the threads more enjoyable for everyone.

[tedzepplin]

How long? I show nothing the software will find as deleted. Within a few days, I could tell you, anything passed that, no way to know.

It was close to two years ago.

[Midnight Lady]

The best way to keep track of a thread you've started --- and have a permanent record of it --- is to save notification emails which contain the poster's name and what they said.

I've started to do this because I too have lost things I wish I'd copied before they disappeared.

You have to do a lot of deleting of other notifications, but at least you have what you want to keep.

[big mike]

If a mod has occasion to delete a thread, the "poster" that is responsible fpr getting it delete should be reprimanded. We ALL know better and read and signed the same rules. Multiple offenses should result in being shown the door. That will save a lot of threads from getting out of hand and dipsposing of some of the trash, making the jobs of the mods easier and the threads more enjoyable for everyone.

THe OP is not the one that should be reprimanded for someone else taking the thread down the wrong area. People with 'agendas' get dealt with.


It was close to two years ago.

Oy, there's no way we can find or even remember why a 2 year old thread was removed. Could've been lost in the data base crash...many reasons. Can't help you there.

The best way to keep track of a thread you've started --- and have a permanent record of it --- is to save notification emails which contain the poster's name and what they said.

I've started to do this because I too have lost things I wish I'd copied before they disappeared.

You have to do a lot of deleting of other notifications, but at least you have what you want to keep.

Not bad advice.

[scottlr]

I don't see why folks can't just accept the rules, act accordingly, and trust the mods do what they think is best in any given situation. I recall at least one thread that was pulled, then the mod thought it over, and put it back, due to a few folks asking about it. These guys are NOT Nazis. In fact, they seem to have pretty high integrity from what I've seen during my time here, and they have shown patience as well, in certain situations. The OP's thread was in itself nothing to violate anything at all. But all of the bouncing ta tas and some other posts certainly were. At that point, I could see this thread was heading to the toilet and would be flushed. It was plain as day.

[dk123123dk]

I agree with the OP a simple notification would be great. Wouldn't take more than a few moments.

I think if there were a few pics that broke the rules, take down those posts, warn the members, and move on. Rather than delete the whole thread. There is usually some good conversation in threads, and they are pulled down because of a few bad apples.

Why punish the whole group? If you have the time to pull the thread, you don't have the time to notify the OP?

dk

[Jon Silberman]

My favorite part about deleting threads is when you do it, THEN take the time to notify the OP about it and THEY take the time to send you back a hate-filled, bitter, angry tirade of a PM. --chiba
Chiba my good man, you are, as always, an engaging mix of eloquence and entertaining. :)

[opdev]

A thread I started a long time ago was deleted and I had no idea why and no one contacted me to tell me why and I didn't read anything offensive in any of the posts on the thread unless if some one came in at the end and went nuts or something.

I still wish the thread was there. I wanted to copy some info from it but I was letting it build up before I got to copy the info.

It was a thread about how the Stray Cats song The Stray Cat Strut sounded so similar to Richard Hell and the Voidoids - Blank Generation song. I wondered why I had never heard of a copyright infringement case when the songs are so similar. Then some people posted several songs that had the same chord progression - but none were as similar as the two I originally asked about. I wanted to copy the list of all those songs so I could listen to them again, but the thread was deleted.

Any idea what ever happend to that thread?

Thanks.

Maybe this recent picture of Glen, aka Scott Peterson and his 2nd cousin, twice removed will explain

http://www.rockabillyhall.com/GlnGlnnBrianSetzer03.jpg

[big mike]

I agree with the OP a simple notification would be great. Wouldn't take more than a few moments.

I think if there were a few pics that broke the rules, take down those posts, warn the members, and move on. Rather than delete the whole thread. There is usually some good conversation in threads, and they are pulled down because of a few bad apples.

Why punish the whole group? If you have the time to pull the thread, you don't have the time to notify the OP?

dk

Did you even read the whole thread?

[Bones]

It was close to two years ago.
:roll

let it go brother, let it go. :phones

[Jon Silberman]

If you have the time to pull the thread, you don't have the time to notify the OP?

dk
In his classic, The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, Stephen Covey sets as #3, "Put first things first."

Scott has already told you why he deleted the thread first, returned to his life second, and would have notified the OP third. I guess that's just not good enough for some. This is unfortunate since Scott already donates so much time and energy to the cause. :(

[Scott Peterson]

I agree with the OP a simple notification would be great. Wouldn't take more than a few moments.

I think if there were a few pics that broke the rules, take down those posts, warn the members, and move on. Rather than delete the whole thread. There is usually some good conversation in threads, and they are pulled down because of a few bad apples.

Why punish the whole group? If you have the time to pull the thread, you don't have the time to notify the OP?

dk

Both gross oversimplification and ignorance of what really happens. No slam, just facts.

A) It wasn't a 'few' pics. It was the bulk of the thread. The initial post had the line "Anything goes!" with a wink to 'please stay within the rules'.

B) The thread, IMHO, had nothing to add to the community. I make that judgment on having been a founding principle here after also moderating other major sites for multiple years. Your tastes might not align with mine, but that's not here or there.

C) This was an attempt to simply get some funny photos so folks could have a laugh. Fetish shots of guys in leathers, and numerous bouncing female chests do not belong on the Gear Page. If you feel they do, then reread the FAQ. Link is above in the title bar.

D) Notification was forthcoming; as noted numerous times. How that fact keeps getting ignored says volumes about folks' reading retention and comprehension. Notification doesn't always work instantaneously; and anyone claiming that it should is more than invited to start their own forum and try to practice what they preach.

E) How the 'group' was 'punished' is reaching for straws. No one was punished and the 'group' seems entirely unharmed. No animal testing was done in the removal of this one thread, I promise.

F) As for not sending out notification instantly today, the answer is no, I did not have time at the moment. My reasons were clearly laid out in an earlier post.

I'm speaking plainly, without emotion, without sarcasm and not condescending (because that's what I'll be accused of next). I am talking no BS straight up to you. Flat out, there's nothing here to find, no great conspiracy and we are not out to rob the world of all it's fun.

The posts that keep poking fingers in the eyes of the folks that keep this place going are not going to be allowed much further.

This thread is, IMHO, nearly done. It will be locked and left up... with an explanation... though I honestly feel if you need any more explanation at this point you are probably just projecting.

Peace.

[tedzepplin]

:roll

let it go brother, let it go. :phones

You see, This is an example of how fast people start to think someone actually has an "issue" about something when they DON'T.

All I was intending when I posted on this thread was to explain how I also had a thread deleted and I didn't know why and no one contacted me about it with an explanation. I described the thread with a little detail to make it clear it wasn't a thread that was asking people to post nude photos or say something offensive.

Then Big Mike asked when I had posted my thread. I told him two years ago. I never brought it up until now - when it seemed relevant to this thread. I haven't been going on and on about it.

SO PLEASE DON'T TELL ME TO "LET IT GO BROTHER, LET IT GO"

I find your comment to be rude and unnecessary and contributes nothing to the value of this thread.

[Bassomatic]

Mod bashing is a dangerous game, especially when it's entirely uncalled for.

This place is tolerant indeed, based on the length of this thread alone.

[Bones]

You see, This is an example of how fast people start to think someone actually has an "issue" about something when they DON'T.

All I was intending when I posted on this thread was to explain how I also had a thread deleted and I didn't know why and no one contacted me about it with an explanation. I described the thread with a little detail to make it clear it wasn't a thread that was asking people to post nude photos or say something offensive.

Then Big Mike asked when I had posted my thread. I told him two years ago. I never brought it up until now - when it seemed relevant to this thread. I haven't been going on and on about it.

SO PLEASE DON'T TELL ME TO "LET IT GO BROTHER, LET IT GO"

I find your comment to be rude and unnecessary and contributes nothing to the value of this thread.
:roll

[jtm622]

Not to derail, but Bassomatic... what is that picture in your avatar of?

[Brian Scherzer]

I just got home from work a couple of minutes ago and would like to respond to this thread, even though it is locked (one of the perks of being an admin!).

I AM GUILTY AS CHARGED.....sometimes.

Today is a good example. Came home from work, walked the dog, went to my computer, started my email software and BINGO! 51 emails! Now, the 4th email reported the thread that had been deleted that started this thread. Post #30 was reported. I begin looking at the posts on that thread and found several posts that I would have deleted. Took me about 8 minutes to look at the posts on that thread because most just had photos. If I had deleted each of the posts that needed deleting, I would have had to send PMs to 7-8 different people. Remember, that only covers through 4 of the 51 emails I received!

I spent more than 15 minutes reading every post on this thread and will likely spend another 5-10 minutes with this post. This thread was reported in email #5 of 51! By the time I get done, I am guessing that I will have spent a couple of hours......right after getting home from work. Maybe it will take more time, maybe less. On a board with as many posts as we have, the admins and mods do not always function as well as we should or would like to. Yes, it would be really nice if the OP had been contacted.......and the 7-8 people who posted images that led to the thread getting nuked. But that would have only brought me through email #4......of 51.