Texas Tech will stomp mudhole in OU's A** [Archive]

Lawn Jockey

11-21-2008, 04:37 PM

To be quite honest......that's what I'm hoping for. Nothing pleases me more than a huge ass money wrench at the end of the season. The BCS schmucks are squirming along about now.........and if OU happens to win tomorrow (unlikely)......they'll really be squirming.

It's freakin' hilarious. You play the game(s) on the field........not by some "Wizard Of Oz" freak behind a curtain telling you who is the best.

This would be the year I'd like to see as much turmoil as is humanely possible. It'll never happen......but I'd love to see them almost forced to put Utah vs Ball State in the NC. :roll

Kingbeegtrs

11-21-2008, 04:39 PM

To be quite honest, I think that the three of the four best teams are in the big 12...and yet only 2 can play in a BCS game....it's really screwed up now.

Lawn Jockey

11-21-2008, 04:43 PM

"They" make the claim that "they" can't have playoff games. That is utter BS.

What "they" mean to say is that "they" can't afford to lose the revenue of the bowl games.

The other Divisions seem to get along just fine. The FBS could too.........top 8 in a playoff.........the others fill the bowls.......everybody wins.

I hope Alabama.........and Texas Tech get beat this weekend just to show how utterly stooooopid the BCS really is. Hell, I liked it better when there was a "mythical" NC decided by the AP/UPI polls. At least then you KNEW you were getting screwed by a person........and not a computer.

RonH

11-21-2008, 04:45 PM

I think Texas Tech is going to beat OU. Being a Longhorn fan, I would like to see OU beat TT and then lose to OSU. From what I hear, if OU wins they will go on, which is odd since Texas beat them (I am biased though). BCS is crazy though so who really knows. I personally don't think OU will beat Texas Tech though so it probably won't matter. It should be a good game though.

Ron

scriptphase

11-21-2008, 04:47 PM

Here is the Big 12's tiebreaking procedure from the Big 12 rules book:
•Divisional champion: The (eligible) team with the best winning-percentage of all divisional members in its eight conference games is declared the divisional champion and representative to the Big 12 Conference Football Championship Game. A team ineligible under NCAA or Big 12 rules for postseason (bowl) competition shall not compete in the Big 12 championship game.
•Divisional tiebreakers: The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:
If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative
If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 7 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.
1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other.
2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division.
3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (fourth, fifth and sixth).
4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents.
5. The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative.
6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative. 7. The representative will be chosen by draw.

scriptphase

11-21-2008, 04:49 PM

p.s. Guns up!

Kingbeegtrs

11-21-2008, 04:49 PM

I really can't wait until tomorrow night!

Austinrocks

11-21-2008, 04:53 PM

Lawn Jockey

11-21-2008, 04:57 PM

Well.......I bleed Crimson & Cream........but I'm rooting for TT. I'd like to see them win it ALL.........and just slaughter someone in the NC. The ONLY......and I mean ONLY team that I think that would be a "good" game for them would be Florida. They would absolutely shred the other pretenders that are out there now.

I've always liked Mike Leach........he deserves to win......especially with the group of kids he's got there now.

Kingbeegtrs

11-21-2008, 04:58 PM

How about them aggies?:(

groutfulone

11-21-2008, 06:32 PM

How about them aggies?:(
Seeing as you are in Lufkin, shouldn't you be asking how about them Lumberjacks?
I bleed burnt orange, but I am really looking forward to Tech stomping the snot out of sooner.

KeithC

11-21-2008, 06:36 PM

As a Texan in exile in OK I always hope for a Texas win.

But, I also have other reasons not to root for OU in general!

shuie

11-21-2008, 06:36 PM

This is a payback game. I'm taking Oklahoma.

mge80

11-21-2008, 07:20 PM

what will they do if Texas, Texas Tech, and OU all have one loss at the end of the year? Especially if OU lost to Texas, Texas lost to Tech, and Tech lost to OU? who is the big 12 south champ? it could happen.

What it boils down to...if Texas, TT, and OU all have one loss, the team ranked highest in the Nov 30 BCS rankings plays Missouri in the Big 12 Championship. All of the previous tie-breakers would not apply since their losses would have come against each other. The winner of the Big 12 gets an automatic BCS bid. HOWEVER, should that winner be Missouri, then there is nothing that would keep the other two teams, if they were in fact the top two ranked BCS teams in the final poll, from playing in the BCS championship. That is the one exception to the "no more than two teams from one conference in the BCS" deal.

ljplum12

11-21-2008, 07:23 PM

Wreck 'em. What worries me most:

OU's Home Record in 2000s: 42-2 (.954)

mge80

11-21-2008, 07:23 PM

OU's home record in the Stoops era...which goes back even further...is 59-2.

ljplum12

11-21-2008, 07:25 PM

OU's home record in the Stoops era...which goes back even further...is 59-2.

Yeah sorry, that's not including the 2007 and 2008 seasons either (both undefeated at home).

mge80

11-21-2008, 07:26 PM

The two losses were against Oklahoma St. in 2001 and TCU in 2005. I think it is the highest current home win percentage of any active head coach.

Lawn Jockey

11-22-2008, 08:04 PM

Bump

:munch

ljplum12

11-22-2008, 08:09 PM

Bump

:munch

You would. ;)

Lawn Jockey

11-22-2008, 08:13 PM

Dude......it's a long way from over.

Nothing has changed on my end......I'm still pulling for TT......but they are going to have their work cut out for them if they keep playing like they are doing now.

Norman is a tough place to play.

And if OU keeps scoring........TT can almost catch up returning the kick offs.......they suck at kick coverage. :roll

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 08:17 PM

:D Roll Tide

Like I said in another thread: Tech ain't played no defense and they ain't got no defense. Bama runs all day on them.

Lawn Jockey

11-22-2008, 08:19 PM

I hate to burst your bubble halorealm7.........either of these two would/will absolutely shred Alabama. The only team either of these two should fear from the SEC is FLORIDA.

I've watched almost every Tide game this year.........and almost every one of the two who are playing now.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if either of these wouldn't hang at least 50 on your beloved Tide.

:AOK

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 08:20 PM

I hate to burst your bubble halorealm7.........either of these two would/will absolutely shred Alabama.

I've watched almost every Tide game this year.........and almost every one of the two who are playing now.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if either of these wouldn't hang at least 50 on your beloved Tide.

:AOK

LOL----we'll see--we'll see
Don't worry, our bubble is still #1 regardless of anyones opinion.

Lawn Jockey

11-22-2008, 08:22 PM

LOL----we'll see--we'll see

We'll see........exactly.......after they get past Florida.

:munch

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 08:25 PM

We'll see........exactly.......after they get past Florida.

:munch

:rotflmaoIt ain't Bama's 1st dance and it ain't the 1st time they've been underdogs. You bet your ass--they'll by god come to play. Count on it.

mge80

11-22-2008, 08:28 PM

The best three teams in the country...in no particular order....are Florida, Texas, and OU.

TT...their bubble has definitely exploded in their faces, with their gonads wrapped firmly around their necks.

Alabama? They will be in a similar state after the SEC Championship game.

Florida and OU in the Orange Bowl for the National Championship.

Texas will be BCS #3, and play in the Fiesta Bowl. And do it without even playing in a conference championship game.

Alabama will be an afterthought by this point...even if they "by god" come to play. All that matters is that "by god" they got their asses handed to them on a platter in a down year for the SEC. They might be BCS #5.

ljplum12

11-22-2008, 08:29 PM

Someone say something if Tech scores and maybe I'll turn the game back on. :cry:

Lawn Jockey

11-22-2008, 08:30 PM

Someone say something if Tech scores and maybe I'll turn the game back on. :cry:

Aren't you glad you didn't call that bet?

:knitting

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 08:33 PM

The best three teams in the country...in no particular order....are Florida, Texas, and OU.

TT...their bubble has definitely exploded in their faces, with their gonads wrapped firmly around their necks.

Alabama? They will be in a similar state after the SEC Championship game.

Florida and OU in the Orange Bowl for the National Championship.

Texas will be BCS #3, and play in the Fiesta Bowl. And do it without even playing in a conference championship game.

Alabama will be an afterthought by this point...even if they "by god" come to play.

:bow Got any good stock predictions? Hell, the way you got it figured out, there ain't much need in playin the games.
You forget--even with a Bama loss--they've only got "1" just like everyone else--you're talking nonsense.

Lawn Jockey

11-22-2008, 08:35 PM

:bow Got any good stock predictions? Hell, the way you got it figured out, there ain't much need in playin the games.
You forget--even with a Bama loss--they've only got "1" just like everyone else--you're talking nonsense.

No.......I don't generally make predictions. However I am well informed.

Alabama's loss will occur in the SEC Championship. Surely you are aware that the later in the year the loss occurs.......the worse it hurts you. That's about as late in the year as you can get.

TT scored!!!!!

ljplum12

11-22-2008, 08:39 PM

Surely you are aware that the later in the year the loss occurs.......the worse it hurts you. That's about as late in the year as you can get.

TT scored!!!!!

As will be evidenced when Tech drops below UT, UF, OU, and possibly USC.

Thanks, I've got it back on temporarily.

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 08:40 PM

No.......I don't generally make predictions. However I am well informed.

Alabama's loss will occur in the SEC Championship. Surely you are aware that the later in the year the loss occurs.......the worse it hurts you. That's about as late in the year as you can get.

TT scored!!!!!

Yes, their 13th game of the season. Which shouldn't be played at all and wouldn't if it weren't for greed. It is a sad state of affairs when a team can lose at home to an unranked opponent and still win a conference championship and play for a national title. What say ye?

Lawn Jockey

11-22-2008, 08:41 PM

What say ye?

:cry:

:cry:

:cry:

:roll

ljplum12

11-22-2008, 08:41 PM

Which shouldn't be played at all and wouldn't if it weren't for greed. It is a sad state of affairs when a team can lose at home to an unranked opponent and still win a conference championship and play for a national title. What say ye?

I'll drink to that. :BEER :drink

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 08:43 PM

:cry:

:cry:

:cry:

:roll

:rotflmao

Lawn Jockey

11-22-2008, 08:46 PM

OU 35 TT 7 1 minute until halftime.

Long ride home to Lubbock.

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 08:49 PM

OU 35 TT 7 1 minute until halftime.

Long ride home to Lubbock.

I think this has been a surprise to everyone. Tech is almost helpless. Interception oh hell.

Lawn Jockey

11-22-2008, 08:50 PM

OU 42 TT 7 at the half.

Real long ride home back to Lubbock.

:roll

ljplum12

11-22-2008, 08:50 PM

"An old fashioned stompin'." Indeed.

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 08:53 PM

If Tech continues to get blown out-they'll be lucky to stay in the top 10. How far will the Sooners jump? Will they jump the Gators? What say ye?

Lawn Jockey

11-22-2008, 08:53 PM

Where's the mudhole?

:munch

Lawn Jockey

11-22-2008, 08:54 PM

If Tech continues to get blown out-they'll be lucky to stay in the top 10. How far will the Sooners jump? Will they jump the Gators? What say ye?

I don't think so.......it *should* be.......

Alabama
Florida
OU

That will set up the SEC Championship beautifully.

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 08:56 PM

Where's the mudhole?

:munch

The one I see is in the middle of some Red Raider azz..:D

Lawn Jockey

11-22-2008, 08:59 PM

That freak with the spiked hair who wants to be a pro wrestler (LOL) for TT is a great player.........but he's an absolute GOON. I bet his whole "style" goes over well in Lubbock. :roll

If TT doesn't stop them in the second half........and can't get any offense going.......OU may hang 60 on them.

With that said.....I'd still like to see TT come back and make it competetive.

The Last Rebel

11-22-2008, 09:00 PM

If Tech continues to get blown out-they'll be lucky to stay in the top 10. How far will the Sooners jump? Will they jump the Gators? What say ye?
What do you mean "continues to get blown out"? They're losing ONE game, how can you possibly predict that they'll fall apart. Did you think Texas or OSU were going to fall apart after they lost ONE game?

ljplum12

11-22-2008, 09:02 PM

What do you mean "continues to get blown out"? They're losing ONE game, how can you possibly predict that they'll fall apart. Did you think Texas or OSU were going to fall apart after they lost ONE game?

I think he was referring to this single game, as in, if they don't make themselves seem somewhat competitive. :(

Jason Carter

11-22-2008, 09:04 PM

The boys in the BCS office better put on a pot of coffee. Looks like the computer may blow a fuse tonight.

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 09:05 PM

I think he was referring to this single game, as in, if they don't make themselves seem somewhat competitive. :(

Correct. BCS style points go positive and negative. Didn't say it was right but that's how it is.
Think about it this way: The Tech qb came in a Heisman candidate--he's not anymore-his stock has fallen.

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 09:31 PM

So how 'bout the Ball State Cardinals?:huh

Austinrocks

11-22-2008, 10:13 PM

I don't think so.......it *should* be.......

Alabama
Florida
OU

That will set up the SEC Championship beautifully.

probably will be, just points out the stupidity of the system, The New York Giants based on their wins and losses would not have made it to the superbowl, just shows the stupidity of the college system IMO.

shuie

11-22-2008, 10:16 PM

Florida
Texas
OU
Alabama

shihanderek

11-22-2008, 10:16 PM

Yeah, will be interesting to see how they choose the Big 12 South Champ, should be UT as much as this Sooner fan hates to say that. Either way, whomever it is should kill Mizzou.

ljplum12

11-22-2008, 10:20 PM

Yeah, will be interesting to see how they choose the Big 12 South Champ, should be UT as much as this Sooner fan hates to say that. Either way, whomever it is should kill Mizzou.

What if OU loses to OSU next weekend?

The Last Rebel

11-22-2008, 10:21 PM

Yeah, will be interesting to see how they choose the Big 12 South Champ, should be UT as much as this Sooner fan hates to say that. Either way, whomever it is should kill Mizzou.
I don't care who wins just as long as it's not tu. I couldn't stand that smug, arrogant t-sip attitude afterwards. Hell, if the t-sips lose they're still smug and arrogant. It just about takes an act of god to drag me into Austin, and when I do go I always make sure to wear my maroon and white.

Seditious

11-22-2008, 10:45 PM

So,

Texas over OU
Tech over Texas
OU over Tech

Hmmmm.....seems like who wants it more on that day. 3 very good teams.

Tide should stay 1.

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 10:51 PM

So,

Texas over OU
Tech over Texas
OU over Tech

Hmmmm.....seems like who wants it more on that day. 3 very good teams.

Tide should stay 1.

One of those any given Saturday things, it's crazy.
"Tonight" Oklahoma was the best team in the country. But that's just it--the "tonights champions" are always changing. College football--you gotta love it.
ROLL TIDE

RonH

11-22-2008, 10:59 PM

What if OU loses to OSU next weekend?

That is exactly what I want to happen. Of course, Texas better beat A&M. I will be watching that game with my Aggie brother in law on Thanksgiving!

This was a suprise to me. Texas Tech had an off night. They were not the same team that played all year.

Ron

halorealm7

11-22-2008, 11:05 PM

That is exactly what I want to happen. Of course, Texas better beat A&M. I will be watching that game with my Aggie brother in law on Thanksgiving!

This was a suprise to me. Texas Tech had an off night. They were not the same team that played all year.

Ron

That's a lot of games to get motivated to play--tough schedule in the conference but the same can be said of Texas. Man what a gauntlet to try and go through.

The Last Rebel

11-22-2008, 11:08 PM

That is exactly what I want to happen. Of course, Texas better beat A&M. I will be watching that game with my Aggie brother in law on Thanksgiving!

This was a suprise to me. Texas Tech had an off night. They were not the same team that played all year.

Ron
I've got a bad feeling tu's going to win but I'm going to keep on rooting for my Aggies right up until the point the timer runs out.

ljplum12

11-22-2008, 11:08 PM

That is exactly what I want to happen. Of course, Texas better beat A&M. I will be watching that game with my Aggie brother in law on Thanksgiving!

This was a suprise to me. Texas Tech had an off night. They were not the same team that played all year.

Ron

So, let's say OU gets beat by OSU, UT beats A&M, Big 12 South is either UT or TTU and since TTU beat UT, TTU gets it?

RonH

11-22-2008, 11:21 PM

So, let's say OU gets beat by OSU, UT beats A&M, Big 12 South is either UT or TTU and since TTU beat UT, TTU gets it?

I am really not sure, but I think Texas Tech's loss tonight kind of killed their chances in the BCS standings.

Oh yeah, I am also pulling for Baylor. Maybe Texas Tech could have 2 really bad games in a row :D

Ron

Lawn Jockey

11-23-2008, 04:12 AM

I have noticed that our OP has fallen silent. :roll

OU will beat OSU like they owe them money. Count on it.

I now expect to see two one loss teams in the NC. Florida vs OU..........with Florida winning it all..........handily too.

I *think* that OU will jump UT in the BCS poll today. All they have to do is jump them ONE spot.........win at OSU.......win at the Big 12 Championship against Misery (OU pwns Misery).

I will be shocked if they don't jump UT in the BCS.

What would be better (for my absolute disdain of the BCS) would be OU lose to OSU, Texas lose to A&M, and TT lose to Baylor. :roll Can you say monkey wrench?

That type of scenario would make blue smoke come out of the BCS computer.

:roll

GO BALL STATE!!!

GO UTAH!!!

squeally dan

11-23-2008, 06:40 AM

Roll Tide!

Kingbeegtrs

11-23-2008, 07:25 AM

I don't see how it could have been ANY worse. Either OU is just REALLY impressive or TECH had a REALLY bad day.

mwc2112

11-23-2008, 07:31 AM

So, let's say OU gets beat by OSU, UT beats A&M, Big 12 South is either UT or TTU and since TTU beat UT, TTU gets it?

Yeah, TT would win the Big 12 South and goes to the Big 12 Championship game against Missouri. The winner of that game would play in a BCS game (but not necessarily the National Championship game).

If they all win out and have 1 loss in the Big 12 South, then whoever has the highest BCS standing will go to the Big 12 CC game. That wouldn't be TT after last night, they'll drop too far. It'll be OU or UT.

I would say OU is the better and, probably, more deserving (especially if they handle OSU next week).

TT beat UT by 6
UT beat OU by 10
OU beat TT by 41 (would have been 48 if they had their 'A' players at the end, the last TT TD was meaningless with 11 seconds left)

OU has by far the most impressive head-to-head win and, since they all beat each other, that's probably, IMO, the best way to look at it.

Lawn Jockey

11-23-2008, 07:36 AM

mwc2112 is *probably* correct.

They will also look at quality wins and non-conference schedule. OU has beaten both TCU and Cincinnati who are both ranked (still) and will be in a decent bowl.

Style points (BS IMHO) will also come into play. If that's the case......Stoops should have left the first teamers on the field........and scored 80 last night. That being said.....65 was just enough........:roll

BWAHAHAHAHA

Guns still up?

:munch

ljplum12

11-23-2008, 11:37 AM

Guns still up?

:munch

Just sorta half-stock now.

Lawn Jockey

11-23-2008, 11:46 AM

Just sorta half-stock now.

I wouldn't be too down. They had a great year. I probably jinxed them by rooting for them. I really thought they could go all the way this year.

As for the game........I don't think it was a question of TT playing poorly....OU was just on fire on both sides of the ball. They played a complete game......which is a rarity to see if you're a Sooner fan. They'll do it twice more this year (OSU, B12S Championship..maybe)......then get blown out in a bowl......it always happens.

Leach is a class act.

mge80

11-23-2008, 11:54 AM

I wouldn't be too down. They had a great year. I probably jinxed them by rooting for them. I really thought they could go all the way this year.

As for the game........I don't think it was a question of TT playing poorly....OU was just on fire on both sides of the ball. They played a complete game......which is a rarity to see if you're a Sooner fan. They'll do it twice more this year (OSU, B12S Championship..maybe)......then get blown out in a bowl......it always happens.

Leach is a class act.

I think it was a case of Stoops knowing exactly what his former assistant was going to do. In virtually every situation. That, and the TT players nutting up with everything on the line.

Texas ran out of magic on the last game of their tough run, and TT did the same. OU hasn't really had to play 4 games in a row against ranked opponents, and except for next week's game at Ok ST, didn't have to play any on the road (Texas at a neutral site, notwithstanding).

From a Texas fan standpoint, I'm looking for a Baylor upset of TT to put Texas in the Big 12 Championship (assuming both Texas and OU win next week). If not, a high BCS ranking and a trip to the Fiesta Bowl is fine, too. OU really is playing the best of any Big 12 team and deserves to be the Big 12 South representative. But..arguments will still be made for another week, anyway. (Texas lost on the road in a very close game, OU beat TT at home, Texas beat OU on a neutral site...etc...etc. It is far from cut and dried, and really, until next week's results are in, it really means nothing. It could all be decided on the field instead of by lobbying for votes.)

RonH

11-23-2008, 12:30 PM

From a Texas fan standpoint, I'm looking for a Baylor upset of TT to put Texas in the Big 12 Championship (assuming both Texas and OU win next week).

I am right there with you on this one!

Ron

Lawn Jockey

11-23-2008, 02:21 PM

It could all be decided on the field instead of by lobbying for votes.

If ever there was a year to expose the BCS BS this is it.

You couldn't have said it better Gordon.

:BEER

Lawn Jockey

11-23-2008, 02:27 PM

If the (later released) BCS Poll follows the AP (just released) it will not bode well for Texas. As I figured, OU jumped UT.

1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. OU
4. UT
5. USC

Full story here (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-collegefbpoll&prov=ap&type=lgns).

I looked real hard but couldn't find Michigan.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

RonH

11-23-2008, 02:34 PM

phoenix 7

11-23-2008, 05:26 PM

"Stomp mudhole"?

Lawn Jockey

11-23-2008, 05:27 PM

Interesting Coaches Poll just released:

1. Alabama
2. OU
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. USC

Lawn Jockey

11-23-2008, 07:32 PM

Just pulled this off of the wires......it's 30 minutes old. This is why the BCS is total BS.

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. OU
4. Florida
5. USC

WTF........how did Texas move up two spots without even playing.......and literally jump Florida?

The article goes on to say that UT rating is .9209 and OU's is .9125 but will no doubt go up since they play a ranked opponent next week in OSU. Texas plays a 4-7 A&M team.

I could give two $hi^$ that Texas is ahead of OU.........but it burns my @$$ up that they jumped Florida...........that is TOTAL BS.

Rant off.

mge80

11-23-2008, 07:38 PM

I could give two $hi^$ that Texas is ahead of OU.........but it burns my @$$ up that they jumped Florida...........that is TOTAL BS.

They didn't "jump" Florida. And they didn't move up 2 spots. Last week's BCS rankings:

Alabama
Texas Tech
Texas
Florida
Oklahoma

This week's BCS rankings:

Alabama
Texas
Oklahoma
Florida
USC

Lawn Jockey

11-23-2008, 07:41 PM

Gordon......what did I miss?

Here (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j_Zqz9QZWNCfScN9O3tpojWg8rCQD94KVP8G0) is where I got it from.

My mistake about Florida. :jo

mge80

11-23-2008, 07:44 PM

Here you go...

You can also check previous weeks there, too.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/BCSStandings

Oklahoma jumped Florida from last week, but Texas just moved from 3rd to 2nd, in place of TT.

But....it's all gonna change again next week....and again after Florida and Alabama play each other in the SEC Championship. Before we all waste too much energy on it, just let it sort itself out and THEN start the bitching when the final rankings are out.:eek::)

Lawn Jockey

11-23-2008, 07:48 PM

There is NO way OU should have jumped Florida.

This whole entire system sucks. :BITCH

mge80

11-23-2008, 07:53 PM

This whole entire system sucks. :BITCH

Always has. Always will. Unless there are two clear-cut (and undefeated) choices, which seems rare.

halcyon85

11-24-2008, 03:36 PM

As for the game........I don't think it was a question of TT playing poorly....OU was just on fire on both sides of the ball. They played a complete game......which is a rarity to see if you're a Sooner fan. They'll do it twice more this year (OSU, B12S Championship..maybe)......then get blown out in a bowl......it always happens.

About OU's endurance, that is exactly what I was thinking during that boring assed game. I just thought, "well, OU is doing some stomping, but let's see if they play in the second half." OU is usually a first half team, but they played well all four quarters.

The Tech team in Norman Saturday was not the Tech team from the past several weeks. What a horrible slaughter. And I hate to say it, even though I believe it was just an off night for them, it does not have any bearing on their current credibility. I understand that they beat Texas and have played quite well all season barring this OU game, but you do not let a team beat the crap out of you like they let OU do. If you're going to get beat, get beat in style. It was in their hands, they had the talent to not get destroyed by such a large margin. Their ranking justifies their performance.

My head spins. OU > Texas Tech > Texas > OU.

As for Florida being jumped in the polls, it's simple. OU smashed a then-sensibly ranked #2 Texas Tech, Florida smashed The Mighty Citadel.

And Bama still doesn't deserve #1, imo. They went into OT against a team who had to rally from a disgusting halftime score against Troy, and then had their light snuffed out by Ole Miss the next week. This will all be settled once Bama plays Florida.

But then again, I expected an interesting and intense game between Texas Tech and OU this weekend. I may soon eat my words.

And the BCS? Has anybody ever seen the guys that run this claptrap? It's like Oz behind the curtain! I thought the CBS commentators' closing statements before the LSU/Ole Miss game Saturday were interesting. The only way the BCS will be destroyed is if we all turn off our televisions during the BCS bowl week. The fact that ESPN just poured a brow raising sum of money into the BCS's mouth for rights shows that the problem isn't just with the BCS, it's also with the networks who continue to support this flawed system.

It does not make sense when they could make just as much money with a playoff, and teams would not have a month to prepare or lose momentum.

halcyon85

11-24-2008, 03:38 PM

Also, from that quote about OU losing in a bowl, I forgot to add this joke I heard about a year ago. I hope it's not inappropriate.

Q: What does marijuana and OU have in common?

A: They both get smoked in bowls.

Lawn Jockey

11-24-2008, 04:19 PM

Tech has always struggled in Norman........even Lubbock against OU to a degree. I honestly believe OU would have won last years game in Lubbock had Bradford not gone done on the first OU possession with a concussion. Two series later, Murray goes out with a dislocated patella..........and even still Halzle almost leads them to a win. With both Bradford and Murray in that game........OU would have romped.

I think it's deeper than that..........OU (Stoops) knows exactly what Leach is all about.......on both sides of the ball. He knows the plays he's likely to call, when he's going to call them, etc.

I've always liked Leach......still do. But he added AT LEAST 21 points to the OU total by going for it on 4th down and not making it.......leaving Bradford with a short field.......it's not in your best interest.

You are more than correct about the BCS. It is totally money driven. The "opponents" of the playoff state that it would interfere with finals. BS.......they take nearly a month off before the BCS games.........play an 8 team playoff......let the other teams fill the bowls.....and everybody wins.........even the "money" guys.

Can you imagine how much revenue would be generated from a playoff in the FBS? Neutral sites, all of them night games, and the finale would be the College Super Bowl. It would generate more coin than the bowls do now........because those bowls will still be played........just not with the top 8 teams.

:roll

Smoked in bowls....excellent!!! (And the truth)

:roll

ljplum12

11-24-2008, 04:45 PM

I've always liked Leach......still do. But he added AT LEAST 21 points to the OU total by going for it on 4th down and not making it.......leaving Bradford with a short field.......it's not in your best interest.

Not to mention the onside kick to start the second half.

The "system" is obviously broken, but only from the fan's perspective. From the people whose perspective counts, sponsors, TV networks, etc, it's not broke because they're making money off it, and have no motivation to "fix" it. The only way to do something about it is, as someone mentioned earlier, boycott watching and going to the bowl games, which simply won't happen.

Kingbeegtrs

11-24-2008, 06:43 PM

They didn't stick to their usual gameplan...that has worked for them for the last ten games. They tried this new crap where they were trying to catch OU off guard...it didn't work and yet they kept trying it again and again. Every time I thought it couldn't get worse they proved me wrong. That was not the Tech that I am used to watching. After that appearance they deserve the Gallery Furniture DotCom bowl.:messedup

buddaman71

11-25-2008, 08:15 AM

bring the pain:Devil

2 words.
BOOMER SOONER

Lawn Jockey

11-25-2008, 08:20 AM

2 words.
BOOMER SOONER

BWHAHAHAHAHA

Three words.........

BOOMER EFFING SOONER

buddaman71

11-25-2008, 08:27 AM

I was at the game, and anyone who thought that TT was just having an off night is dead wrong. OU hit them faster and harder on EVERY snap on both sides of the ball than they were capable of handling. On that particular night OU would have beaten any team in the NCAA, including Florida.

Next week may be different, but that was the most complete 4 quarters of domination played by any team this year. Incredible execution and athleticism on both sides of the ball.

I think it's amazing that EVERY ESPN clip and mocumentary leading up to the game was about how TT was headed for supreme glory and was unstoppable.

I actually really like Leach and TT and don't think he gave the game away by going for it on 4th and onside kicking. OU was scoring at will no matter where they started. They pounded the running game and controlled the clock when they needed to and scored quickly when they needed to. He knows when the other team is in control and was trying to make something happen.

College football is, BCS notwithstanding, the most exciting team sport on the planet and it just keeps getting better.

Now, if we can just get Obama to push harder for a freakin' playoff...

rollyfoster

11-25-2008, 08:36 AM

TT's run defense was HORRIBLE.

buddaman71

11-25-2008, 08:42 AM

It was horrible, because OU's O line smashed them in the face on every snap.

shuie

11-25-2008, 09:07 AM

TT didn't tackle well on offense either :) Their offensive scheme really is a hoot to watch when the other teams defense sits back in a zone all night or can be mismatched, but its pretty hard to find a mismatch when the other teams linebackers are faster than everyone on your offense. It's also probably a bad sign when you'd rather repeatedly turn the ball over on downs in your own territory than put your defense on the field.

buddaman71

11-25-2008, 10:30 AM

100% Agreed. I love the spread and ESPECIALLY the no huddle offense. It IS kinda funny to me that everyone says that OU won because TT has no defense...........

Um....the OU D shut that #1 offense DOWN and harassed Harrell start to finish.
He looked bewildered all night until we put in the 3rd string and gave him a few...

Stoops must have reviewed the thrashing West V gave OU last year and told the defense to play like that. Venables has actually simplified the defense and let the players PLAY. The result is much improved defense. Sometimes coaches out coach themselves...

mge80

11-25-2008, 12:20 PM

Sometimes coaches out coach themselves...

Oh, this happens all the time. On every level.

Lawn Jockey

11-25-2008, 12:22 PM

buddaman........are the rumours still rampant about Venables going to Clemson?

:munch

buddaman71

11-25-2008, 12:41 PM

I have heard, and work with a grad student who goes to OU...he said it's going around, but I don't think anyone knows for sure at this point...

Diablo

11-25-2008, 02:35 PM

Texas is #2 behind Alabama. That is the BCS standing which is the one that determines who goes on. Whoohoo!!!

Hook 'em Horns!!!

Lawn Jockey

11-25-2008, 02:36 PM

Diablo.........I believe it's next weeks poll that matters.

RonH

11-25-2008, 02:38 PM

Diablo.........I believe it's next weeks poll that matters.

Your right and say both Texas and OU win, it should still go to Texas because Texas beat OU. Is that the way it will work? I doubt it but who really knows with the BCS.

Ron

Lawn Jockey

11-25-2008, 02:41 PM

Couldn't agree more with you about the system.

After OU hangs 70 on OSU at Bedlam......all bets will be off.

:stir

buddaman71

11-25-2008, 02:46 PM

Your right and say both Texas and OU win, it should still go to Texas because Texas beat OU. Is that the way it will work? I doubt it but who really knows with the BCS.

Ron

Problem with that logic is that Tech should be ahead of Texas then....

Crazy!!!!

:huh

RonH

11-25-2008, 02:52 PM

Problem with that logic is that Tech should be ahead of Texas then....

Crazy!!!!

:huh

Texas didnt get blown out by any team. Tech got killed. Texas beat OU by 10 and after OU killed Tech and put TT out of it, the tie should go to Texas since they beat OU. I am a Longhorn fan, but if OU had beaten Texas then OU should go on. I think they should all play it off, but that doesnt happen. The BCS is a weird system though.

Ron

mge80

11-25-2008, 03:04 PM

RonH

11-25-2008, 03:06 PM

I'll tell you how the problem gets solved. Baylor beats the downtrodden and morale depleted Red Raiders. That leaves OU and Texas tied...and as long as they each win...and it doesn't matter if Texas beats A&M by one and OU beats Ok St as soundly as they beat TT....Texas wins the tiebreaker. Why? Because they beat OU. Which should be the only thing that should be considered when deciding between two teams. Head to head. Period.

I actually agree with this 100%. But TT is out of it far enough now that it really shouldn't matter if Baylor beats them...should it? So really, it is between Texas and OU. So I still stay Texas should go on since they beat OU.

Ron

halcyon85

11-25-2008, 03:07 PM

halcyon85

11-25-2008, 03:09 PM

And by someone I mean either Texas or OU, as TT had their light snuffed out Saturday.

buddaman71

11-25-2008, 03:32 PM

However the current Big 12 south champion dilemma is decided, it will most definitely not please everyone. It's a bitch. Even with a playoff system I don't feel that something like this could be sorted out. Toss any two of these three teams together any given Saturday and you wouldn't get the same result twice. They are all three great teams. Someone is going to get screwed, and it won't be pretty.

That is 100% accurate.

Disclaimer: I live in OKC and am an OU fan, but above that, I am a college FB fan.

a) Either EVERY conference should have to play a conf championship or none

b) I don't get why it's such a big deal to have a playoff...you can still consider them bowl games...they are just bowl games that are part of a playoff...it's too subjective otherwise.

c) To have the championship decided by a large group of coaches and sportswriters who are CONSISTENTLY WRONG in their game-to-game predictions completely negates the validity of any "champ" who isn't undisputed in a given year.

RonH

11-25-2008, 03:37 PM

That is 100% accurate.

Disclaimer: I live in OKC and am an OU fan, but above that, I am a college FB fan.

a) Either EVERY conference should have to play a conf championship or none

b) I don't get why it's such a big deal to have a playoff...you can still consider them bowl games...they are just bowl games that are part of a playoff...it's too subjective otherwise.

c) To have the championship decided by a large group of coaches and sportswriters who are CONSISTENTLY WRONG in their game-to-game predictions completely negates the validity of any "champ" who isn't undisputed in a given year.

:agree

Ron