a few tracks from a recent film-score..... [Archive]

splatt

11-28-2008, 04:23 PM

i haven't posted here,
in a while.
thought ya might wanna hear a few tracks from
a recent film-score score;
this is very different music/style from
"lars & the real girl", "the wackness", "anvil", "friday night lights", & etc etc etc.

they're the first 6 tracks, posted on my soundclick (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=831564) page.

enjoy, i hope!

best,
dt / spltrcl

EDIT:
when i first posted the thread, i meant to point to
the first 6 pieces, recently done.

but, here's the complete list of this random collection of pieces,
and the projects from which they're derived:

1-6: La Linea (Ray Liotta, Andy Garcia, Valerie Cruz --- rel. 2009)
7-11: Lars and the Real Girl (Ryan Gosling, Emily Mortimer --- 2007)
12-14: Friday Night Lights (Billy Bob Thornton, Lucas Black --- 2004)
15-18: The Order / (The Sin Eater) (Heath Ledger, Shannyn Sossamon --- 2003)
19-22: Believe in Me (Jeff Donovan, Samantha Mathis --- 2006)
23-25: The Wackness (Ben Kingsley, Josh Peck, Famke Janssen --- 2008)

26-29: music from "prezens", my ecm release of 2007
30-31: music from "splattercell ::: OAH", my release of 2000
32: music from "prezens", my ecm release of 2007

33-34: Love Monkey (Tom Cavanaugh, Judy Greer), 2 songs from the CBS tv-show of 2000

35: music from "splattercell ::: OAH", my release of 2000

36: a little random something from my library of early 2008

Sleepy

11-28-2008, 04:30 PM

Most relaxing
I dig it

splatt

11-28-2008, 04:33 PM

Most relaxing
I dig it
ha!
thanks.
i'm interested to know:
did you find track 4 ("running the line")
to be relaxing?
dt / spltrcl

Sleepy

11-28-2008, 04:36 PM

I had only listened to track 1

listening to track 4 now and it is scaring the pants off of me!

splatt

11-28-2008, 04:42 PM

I had only listened to track 1

listening to track 4 now and it is scaring the pants off of me!
i had a funny feeling.....
anyways,
enjoy!
:)
dt / spltrcl

Flyin' Brian

11-28-2008, 04:45 PM

Strange and weird timing. I just bought it from iTunes this very afternoon.
Great mix of sounds and emotions. I really love it. Cinema music can be so incredible bland left standing on its own merit. This certainly does not.
You have a wonderful musical mind.

mike walker

11-28-2008, 04:47 PM

I found track 4 very scary.
Great work throughout. I listened thru the first 7 and it seemed right to stop there.
Can you say what the film is called and what it's about?

Mike

11-28-2008, 04:51 PM

I am, as usual, somewhat largely in awe.

Neill

11-28-2008, 05:41 PM

gnarly. thanks torn. you da man, rude boi.

Guitar Slinger6

11-28-2008, 05:47 PM

You really are fantastic at creating a mood, I really enjoyed hearing these tracks. The truth is this really makes me realize how narrow minded musicians (me) can be when it comes to creating. Thank you for posting, I really did enjoy all 4 tracks, dig "Running the Line".

jzilla

11-28-2008, 06:36 PM

your cues are making me want to see the movie even though i know nothing about it...

excellent stuff. bet it's awesome to picture.

btw, what's that bass synth about a minute in to track 3? warm...

splatt

11-28-2008, 07:23 PM

i was only talking about those first 6 tracks
(from the upcoming film, "LaLinea")
but,
certainly please do feel free to ponder whatever
mess of stuff & nonsense remains mounted
on that site.
dudes.
dt / spltrcl

Sunbreak Music

11-28-2008, 07:37 PM

Thanks for posting, David.

You've been a big influence on my playing and have many times emboldened me to push things in a direction...or beyond that direction. :D

scoob

11-28-2008, 08:03 PM

I love this stuff.

Sounds like being chased by an intergalactic drug cartel or something - and I mean that in the coolest way possible...really cool soundscapes.

splatt

11-28-2008, 08:51 PM

thanks so much, folks:
all the way 'round.
scoring is hard, lonely work, really.....
..... we that do it don't tend to get
too much feedback.
(of course, i'm lucky like that, since i
kinda like to play loud, when i can.....)

Sounds like being chased by an intergalactic drug cartel or something
awesome!
clearly, i must've done part of my job pretty well,
since that is (basically, mostly) the backdrop
for that film,
as represented by those first 6 cues.
!!!
dt / spltrcl

jzilla

11-28-2008, 09:34 PM

decay-o-caster

11-28-2008, 09:52 PM

I spend my life writing scary lyrics and have no idea how to write scary music to go with it, or really, any kind of atmospheric music. I listen to what you do and realize there are talents that are orders of magnitude beyond the common run of us mere humans. Thanks for sharing these pieces.

jb70

11-28-2008, 09:59 PM

yo david,
i just got to check out a few of the pieces and dug them all. i'm at my folks' house for thanksgiving and everyone is going to sleep. i will check out the rest when i get back into town. track 4 is super killing!

jack

p.s. i LOVED lars and the real girl. one of my favorite movies that i've seen in a loooong time. nice work on that one!

splatt

11-28-2008, 10:05 PM

your cues are making me want to see the movie even though i know nothing about it...

excellent stuff. bet it's awesome to picture.

thanks, jz!
dude.

btw, what's that bass synth about a minute in to track 3? warm...
ya know, i gotta check the tracks;
i think it was the low end of an
Ivory piano>sound toys filter freak>
>huge (custom) Reaktor5 reverb>lowender (subharmonic bass plug-in).
???
i'll check the tracks, though!
dt / spltrcl

Layne-o

11-28-2008, 10:15 PM

DT,

Wow! Awesome doesn't even cover it. I'd love to see the imagery that goes along with this beautiful aural representation. It gets even better and better -

Humbly,

Layne

splatt

11-29-2008, 06:56 AM

thanks, layne.
dt / spltrcl

The bear

11-29-2008, 08:15 AM

Great stuff, nice variations of moods!
Some really nice textures. I would be really interested in seeing the movie!

trisonic

11-29-2008, 09:21 AM

Thanks Dave!
I steal a lot of ideas from your music!!!!
Belated Thanksgiving wishes to you and yours.......
Best, Pete.

splatt

11-29-2008, 09:43 AM

Thanks Dave!
I steal a lot of ideas from your music!!!!
Belated Thanksgiving wishes to you and yours.......
Best, Pete.
ditto, pete.
and..... (to quote my friend, robbie dupree: steal away!)
dt / spltrcl

esoteric pete

11-29-2008, 09:44 AM

cool stuff dave. dig it, as usual. very visual.

Mark C

11-29-2008, 09:55 AM

I checked out a couple - I've always dug the ethereal quality of your film scoring. The first one, "The line", was my fave - was that a resonator I heard?

scoob

11-29-2008, 10:02 AM

since that is (basically, mostly) the backdrop
for that film,
as represented by those first 6 cues.
!!!
dt / spltrcl

Really? wow....perfect then. Intergalactic too? or just a drug cartel?
That's what I pictured when I heard the first 2 or 3, then the one with the guy's name was more introspective...like he's trying to come to terms with whatever happened or what he did, didn't do. Anyway, really cool stuff all the way around.

I'll have to look this up on "teh google".

splatt

11-29-2008, 10:07 AM

The first one, "The line", was my fave - was that a resonator I heard?
thanks for asking!
but, no;
thorughout that score,
i played mandolin and/or
a unison-strung short scale 12-string gtr
--- my much-loved Veillette "Gryphon" ---
a bit of oud, and (ambient) electric guitar.

dt / spltrcl

splatt

11-29-2008, 12:40 PM

p.s. i LOVED lars and the real girl. one of my favorite movies that i've seen in a loooong time. nice work on that one!
thanks, jack --- there are a few mp3's
(starting at #7, i think)
on this same soundclick site from "Lars & the Real Girl";
that score is also available as a cd,
as well as from iTunes, fwiw.

the whistler on the score for
"Lars" is
tgp'er Ken Rosser.
ha!

dt / spltrcl

rwe333

11-29-2008, 12:42 PM

Wonderful - evocative, compelling...
Fine work, indeed.

(splatt, check yer email)

Tonefish

11-29-2008, 12:54 PM

I'm awed once again....nice...very nice!!

cdaloia

11-29-2008, 01:03 PM

David,

Great stuff!
I really am digging it, thanks for posting.
Painting pictures........

Chuck

Mark C

11-29-2008, 01:03 PM

thanks for asking!
but, no;
thorughout that score,
i played mandolin and/or
a unison-strung short scale 12-string gtr
--- my much-loved Veillette "Gryphon" ---
a bit of oud, and (ambient) electric guitar.

dt / spltrcl

Cool - thanks for letting me know!

splatt

11-30-2008, 04:43 AM

btw, what's that bass synth about a minute in to track 3? warm...
so, it was, indeed, this:
it was the low end of an
Ivory piano>sound toys filter freak>
>huge (custom) Reaktor5 reverb>lowender (subharmonic bass plug-in),
+plus+
a guitar loop, fed through the same reverb + lowender.
IOW:
not synth.
dude,
dt / spltrcl

jzilla

11-30-2008, 10:21 AM

so, it was, indeed, this:
it was the low end of an
Ivory piano>sound toys filter freak>
>huge (custom) Reaktor5 reverb>lowender (subharmonic bass plug-in),
+plus+
a guitar loop, fed through the same reverb + lowender.
IOW:
not synth.
dude,
dt / spltrcl

wow! that sounds like an incredibly sweet analog synth! cool!!

splatt

11-30-2008, 11:47 AM

wow! that sounds like an incredibly sweet analog synth! cool!!
it's still remarkable, to me,
the breadth of range, timbre & tone,
the electric guitar can offer,
in this respect;
to my ear, when orchestrating using
electric-guitar derived sounds,
there often seems to be an increase in both animation
& a certain humane "organicness" imparted that •can•
go somewhat beyond more purely synthesised tones,
in overall effect.
sometimes, anyways!
dt / spltrcl

jzilla

11-30-2008, 12:08 PM

it's still remarkable, to me,
the breadth of range, timbre & tone,
the electric guitar can offer,
in this respect;
to my ear, when orchestrating using
electric-guitar derived sounds,
there often seems to be an increase in both animation
& a certain humane "organicness" imparted that •can•
go somewhat beyond more purely synthesised tones,
in overall effect.
sometimes, anyways!
dt / spltrcl

it's funny. as much as i love guitar and sonic art, i've done little in my own work to meld the two worlds. i've been pretty traditional with my use of guitar. i actually feel a little guilty about it because i know it's pure laziness that's preventing me from really diving in. not to make excuses but it's also partly the knowledge that i have so much to learn on guitar that keeps me from branching out too much...

with the tools out there now the possibilities are infinite!

splatt

11-30-2008, 12:10 PM

with the tools out there now the possibilities are infinite!
if it's infinite,
it's been so for a bit of while!
:love:
critically:
it's fun.
hands-on fun, especially when the musical moment
is well-chosen (by you, i mean!).
dt / spltrcl

Lucidology

12-01-2008, 03:09 AM

Wonderful David ..
You never cease to amaze me with your musical inventiveness ...

Thank you for this ...

cram

12-01-2008, 05:53 AM

splatt

12-01-2008, 07:07 AM

splatt - I've had this on while I do my morning work here...

Things that tugged my ears - the really nice sounding guitar in "the cursed"
That piano chime I've heard in many film score (I forget the tune in the list), but I picture someone in a film realizing the simplest of things with that tune as the backdrop.. I swear I've heard it in shawshank for example...
I like the female voice in truth, beauty:beauty, truth.
falling apart has a great sounding acoustic guitar backed by that subtle singing electric.

pretty cool stuff all around.
I'd love to see this all mixed in the film.
You must be excited for this.
thanks much, cram.

for clarity's sake:
those cues are not all from the same film;
that's simply a web-collection of randomly selected stuff from different projects.....
..... some of the pieces are not from films, at all.

when i posted the thread, i was pointing to
the first 6 pieces, recently done.

here's the list of pieces, and the projects
from which they're derived:

1-6: La Linea (Ray Liotta, Andy Garcia, Valerie Cruz --- rel. 2009)
7-11: Lars and the Real Girl (Ryan Gosling, Emily Mortimer --- 2007)
12-14: Friday Night Lights (Billy Bob Thornton, Lucas Black --- 2004)
15-18: The Order / (The Sin Eater) (Heath Ledger, Shannyn Sossamon --- 2003)
19-22: Believe in Me (Jeff Donovan, Samantha Mathis --- 2006)
23-25: The Wackness (Ben Kingsley, Josh Peck, Famke Janssen --- 2008)

26-29: music from "prezens", my ecm release of 2007
30-31: music from "splattercell ::: OAH", my release of 2000
32: music from "prezens", my ecm release of 2007

33-34: Love Monkey (Tom Cavanaugh, Judy Greer), 2 songs from the CBS tv-show of 2000

35: music from "splattercell ::: OAH", my release of 2000

36: a little random something from my library of early 2008

hope that clarifies!
dude.

best,
dt / spltrcl

johnspeck

12-01-2008, 07:26 AM

splatt,
really cool stuff. just getting into track 3 right now. is all the stuff mandolin, or do you play bouzouki or ?

track 4 now playing.

do you compose primarily on your guitar for scores?

i had no idea you did the score for lars. good movie. i'll have to see it again.

The Guy

12-01-2008, 07:42 AM

wow. . . pretty incredible, surreal

are you familiar with johnny greenwoods solo endeavors?

splatt

12-01-2008, 07:49 AM

really cool stuff. just getting into track 3 right now. is all the stuff mandolin, or do you play bouzouki or ?
yeah, john:
i'm playing short-scale 12-string (my trusty Veillette Gryphon),
mandolin, oud & guitar (ambient & otherwise).

do you compose primarily on your guitar for scores?
it does really depend completely upon the score..... and the individual cue.
but, no.... not primarily so.
most of the orchestral material is written at piano,
or with orchestral samples.

i had no idea you did the score for lars. good movie. i'll have to see it again.
cool.
i'm very proud of that score, myself, though
it's not really guitar-centric,
and it's a bit more diatonically "harmonious" & subdued.
¿sub-dude?: ha!

dt / spltrcl

splatt

12-01-2008, 07:51 AM

wow. . . pretty incredible, surreal
thanks much!

are you familiar with johnny greenwoods solo endeavors?
yes, i am.....
..... as he is, with mine!

dt / spltrcl

splatt

12-01-2008, 08:21 AM

Brilliant work.

Fellow South African Trevor Rabin would be proud of your work.
thanks, GT!
i do know trev, peripherally;
we have quite a few friends & compatriots in common,
over the past 20+ yrs.
he's always been very kind, very complimentary.
dt / spltrcl

splatt

12-01-2008, 08:32 AM

"Got away" #34 through headphones is mind boggling, all the songs are great through headphones, very cool mixing/production.
even more thanks, dude!
dt / spltrcl

clemduolian

12-01-2008, 08:59 AM

The cues for La Linea are wonderful...even without context they evoke distinct moods and make me want to see the film. Can't ask for more than that (and as a former film editor and semiotics nut, I have thought and worked a lot about the effect of music/sounds on visual images and the meanings created).

Your range and and tonal palette is a source of consistent awe and inspiration. Even with so much diversity, everything sounds authentic. Thanks for sharing.

GuitarsFromMars

12-01-2008, 09:09 AM

david-dude,these are truly smoking examples/tracks.i thank you,for giving us examples,to learn from.

DonW

12-01-2008, 11:35 AM

So much texture, makes me want to reach out from my 2d rock n roll world. Sublime...

simeon

12-01-2008, 01:38 PM

gorgeous stuff, d

i see the wackness score has just been released - any plans to put up some tunes from that on your soundclick page?

s

splatt

12-01-2008, 04:06 PM

gorgeous stuff, d

i see the wackness score has just been released - any plans to put up some tunes from that on your soundclick page?

thankee, sirrah!

tracks 23-25 are from "The Wackness";
i may put a few more up there, since large portions
of thematic material are missing.....

dt / spltrcl

Neill

12-01-2008, 04:37 PM

thankee, sirrah!

tracks 23-25 are from "The Wackness";
i may put a few more up there, since large portions
of thematic material are missing.....

dt / spltrcl

ima go rent this one tonight. i'm sure the score, at the very least, is good.

fatback

12-01-2008, 05:11 PM

Wonderful tracks.

I really enjoyed the funk bass ostinado and Mecha-Morricone vibe of #4. I also really enjoyed the haunting soundscapes on #5 and as earlier hinted at in #3's shorter cue. These tracks should be a real treat to hear surround mixed in a theater next year.

Thanks for sharing those.

splatt

12-02-2008, 09:16 AM

Even with so much diversity, everything sounds authentic.
thanks soooo much for that beautiful compliment;
it struck a beautiful chord, here.....
ignoring a commentarial, "post-modernist" & even remotely cynical position
has been key to the evolution of my desires in music-making;
in fact, it may be even more critically important
to my approach to film-scoring.
again, many thanks for that.
dt / spltrcl

iluvstrats

12-02-2008, 10:39 AM

David, I liked all of them. You have an amazing talent. The ability to be diverse, wacky, and mainstream all within the same composition sometimes.

hansoloist

12-02-2008, 01:04 PM

Beautiful stuff. Mark Sheilds in particular is extremely moving. Love the textures in Running the Line--so much going on, so dynamic and crisp.

Do you use Atmosphere at all?

peace
-jeff

KRosser

12-02-2008, 06:00 PM

but, here's the complete list of this random collection of pieces,

Or what I like to call "36 reasons to believe in the power of music"

I'm gonna go listen some more...

splatt

12-02-2008, 06:46 PM

Or what I like to call "36 reasons to believe in the power of music"

I'm gonna go listen some more...
dude, dude.
dt / spltrcl

splatt

12-02-2008, 06:56 PM

Beautiful stuff. Mark Sheilds in particular is extremely moving. Love the textures in Running the Line--so much going on, so dynamic and crisp.

Do you use Atmosphere at all?

thanks, j!
no, i don't use that program.....
..... all of my "textural" motifs, beds, ambiences
(and such-type devices) are me,
playing electric guitar through my normal, full rig.....
dt / spltrcl

TaronKeim

12-03-2008, 07:48 AM

Will the s/t be available on cd David? Very cool stuff, I always love the drum sounds/beats you use, and your addiction to big low-end.

_TJK*

Neill

12-03-2008, 02:20 PM

and your addiction to big low-end.

i like this too. the sound kinda becomes tactile.

splatt

12-04-2008, 08:17 AM

Will the s/t be available on cd David? Very cool stuff, I always love the drum sounds/beats you use, and your addiction to big low-end.

thanks for asking, tk!
i believe it will be made available.

i'm waiting on release news/schedule for the film, itself,
as it's apparently now
been "picked-up" for distribution.
i'll let ya know, when i know.
dt / spltrcl

Scoredog

12-04-2008, 08:41 AM

Hey D,

Great textures, really enjoyed the ambience of the pieces. It is easy to get caught up in what is easy but while things sound familiar (many composers work with similar tools as you know) the pieces still sound totally original. I have recently been pulling myself away from orchestral stuff and writing more "sound design" stuff. I have found out what you of course already know, the guitar is more organic sounding than synths and has become the focus of much of my current direction. Thanks for showing the way.

Craig

DøøG

12-04-2008, 08:59 AM

Late to the listening party here, fantabulous stuff! And not only the soundtrack music either, I'm diggin on the Splattercell tuneage as well. Well, ALL of it!:banana

I really like the Mini 12 (and the oud too)!!!! Been getting into 12 string again myself, there's a lot of untapped or not very frequently visited tones in there (with a crunchin 18 watter? wow!!! Talk about fat...). Tuning the courses in 5ths is a neat trick, ala Metheny. Now if someone made a 12 with a locking tuning system.......mmmm........

A quick question, is Door X still available anywhere (or maye back in print soon)? Only had a cassette copy which self destructed a few years back, love to hear it again........

aram

12-04-2008, 09:13 AM

Needless to say, this is all awesome!!!!

One thing I was thinking last night was how much of an inspiration it is to hear this.

You're clearly a musician with a very distinct voice- and despite how "out" some of the sounds and textures you create are, it is being heard by a very wide audience- without compromising your own artistic voice.

It's very very cool.

splatt,

I've been on a bit of a recording GAS phase lately.

Would you mind going into some of the recording gear you use (mics, converters, compressors, etc) ?

dzo

12-04-2008, 04:22 PM

I like this a lot.

My brain works better when I listen to your music with no negative side effects.

John Czajkowski

12-04-2008, 05:08 PM

Hey Mr. Splatt,

This was a fantastic journey to do some work to over the weekend! I often have a very difficult time listening to good music and focusing on anything else brain-intensive, but this dropped me into a very productive trance. I really found myself captivated by how the themes expressed on the acoustic instruments fit so tightly into the electronic textures. It sounded like very meaningful connection that, when heard in context of the film narrative, will glue it together. I really found myself trying to synthesize a storyline as so many things are being suggested like seeing the shadows of boxers - or some great moral struggle unfold. Fantasitco!

GJC

12-04-2008, 10:10 PM

Man, this is such a treat, David. I'm gonna be listenin to this for a few weeks during my stretching exercises

Very cool to look at tones IN LIGHT OF overall composition mastery and not the other way around

I am sure you get asked these questions alot (if not already within the 5 pages of this thread)

"Do you watch the video to what the music is going to be composed for?"

Or

"Do the directors say that they want a certain mood, etc . . . "

I have many more questions about some of these pieces, but I don't wanna bum rush ya too much :)

Jonathan

12-04-2008, 10:11 PM

Righteous.

#4 is massive.

Rid

12-05-2008, 12:35 AM

Some of it reminds me of the stuff I hear, when I am watching a special kind of Animé, brilliant scapes of sounds.
Scary and beautyful at the same time!

splatt

12-05-2008, 09:38 AM

I am sure you get asked these questions alot (if not already within the 5 pages of this thread)

"Do you watch the video to what the music is going to be composed for?"
although on each film the approach is different,
the main answer would be:
yes, i do; with the dialog & sound-fx present & audible.

on this film, there were quite a few scenes scored wherein
there was little-to-none dialog (and some scenes that, additionally, with little-to-none sound-fx, so.....)

typically, i'll form all basic & finishing musical ideas
to-picture; there's also a period, for most pieces,
where i'm working on the music separately from picture.....
..... but, of course, always return to it, eventually.

but, some key ideas are initially conceived away from picture:
often, lately,
i've taken to working on pieces out of the studio, completely,
away from instruments.

"Do the directors say that they want a certain mood, etc . . . "

this is usually the case,
which can be invigorating
(when the director has a clear
vision for both the music & its direction
& its critical development-arc),
or..... it can be really, really daunting,
when the director has little vision/clue/background/education/experience-with
how score might best serve his/her film.

since music is already an ineffable medium
--- witness the variations of opinion, meaning & verbal definitions thereof, here on TGP
(where everyone is already in some way musically oriented) ---
in many cases, a film composer will be working towards
what he/she believes the director wants & needs,
often based upon sketchy or incompleted communication,
& not upon much the specifics of either
emotional and/or musical information:
that kinda describes the gig, a little.

on La Linea --- those first 6 tracks, there ---
i had only the already-in-place "temporary score"
(which the film was edited-to)
to guide me;
which isn't much to go on, and can be mightily misleading:
i disagreed with this film's "temp", relatively often
--- its character, its tone, its placements ---
and, i'm presumably committed & bound
to deliver an original work
for the film-in-question, and that film, alone.
ha!
copying is something i simply don't & won't do;
add to which:
copying something that simply doesn't work
falls way outside my working field of effectiveness.

so.
for myself,
i generally seem to strive for the score
to look directly at and/or progressively towards
assisting to uncover (interior) character-development
& its connection to plot-points across the life of the film,
in order to feed what i see as the heart of the story:
the few broadstroke feelings that
a viewer might be meant to carry with them
from the theater, when the show is done.....
without banging them over their heads with
musically & emotionally stereotypical "meaning".....
did that make sense?
i hope so.
ha!

dt / spltrcl

hansoloist

12-05-2008, 09:55 AM

...
did that make sense?
i hope so.
ha!

dt / spltrcl

Actually, that's one of the most lucid explanations of a process/approach to scoring movies that I've encountered. Thanks for the insights, Dave.

peace
-jeff

splatt

12-05-2008, 03:04 PM

Actually, that's one of the most lucid explanations of a process/approach to scoring movies that I've encountered. Thanks for the insights, Dave.

thank you, jeff.
dt / spltrcl

splatt

12-05-2008, 03:39 PM

Would you mind going into some of the recording gear you use (mics, converters, compressors, etc) ?
every project is a bit different,
so i'll list what stuff i was using for La Linea, ok?

acoustic instruments:
ac. veilette gryphon (hi-tuned short-scale 12-string)
ac. yaroub med. fadhel oud (7-course)
ac. harmony mandolin

mics:
Beyer M500 dual ribbon, M-Audio Sputnik (!), CAD/Equitek E300
mic-pres: Quad Eight (vintage), M-Audio Octane, Focusrite (?)

electric instruments:
d'pergo green lantern (AVCL)
teuffel niwa

amp/rack:
gtr>skreddy mayo>tc compressor>guyatone WR2>goodrich LDR2>
>VHT PittBull45, speaker out>HotPlate>
>ADA Ampulator>rack>ADAMicroCab II>
preamp for stereo rack: Quad Eight & M-Audio Octane

rack:
modified rane sm82 mixer
Echoplex Digital Pro
modified Lexicon PCM42
Lexicon PCM80

Lynx Aurora converters
Lynx AES-16 (since i did this project in Logic8, instead of PT)

i tended to use ITB compression, EQ, delays & further reverbs,
which (on this project) def included:
SoundToys (FilterFreaks, FF compressors, EchoBoy, Universal Audio (Pultec EQ, Cambridge EQ, DreamVerb), PSP (MasterEQ, VintageWarmer), Waves (Q10, RenComp, RenEQ), Reaktor (all kindsa custom reverbs), LiveCut, Ambience, PEAK Pro for editing, etc etc etc

dt / spltrcl

Bryan T

12-05-2008, 03:43 PM

amp/rack:
gtr>skreddy mayo>tc compressor>guyatone WR2>goodrich LDR2>
>VHT PittBull45, speaker out>HotPlate>
>ADA Ampulator>rack>ADAMicroCab II>
preamp for stereo rack: Quad Eight & M-Audio Octane

Guitars are all direct?

splatt

12-05-2008, 03:57 PM

Guitars are all direct?
yes, b;
all electric guitars were direct,
through my tried+true rig,
as listed, above.
(it was a grim necessity for me
--- no air on the elctrioc guitars, argh! ---
but, somehow,
no-one ever seems to know, unless i tell 'em.....
in fact, i struggle to remember that myself, sometimes.....
¿could be my ongoing state of denial? ::: ha!)
dt / spltrcl

Bryan T

12-05-2008, 04:03 PM

yes, b;
all electric guitars were direct,
through my tried+true rig,
as listed, above.
(it was a grim necessity for me
--- no air on the elctrioc guitars, argh! ---
but, somehow,
no-one ever seems to know, unless i tell 'em.....
in fact, i struggle to remember that myself, sometimes.....
¿could be my ongoing state of denial? ::: ha!)
dt / spltrcl

Everything sounds fantastic to me. The electric guitars sound great - really rich timbres.

For the acoustic instruments with pickups do you record both a mic and a pickup?

And there is some sub-bass on some of these tracks that makes my Beyer headphones really move - and I'm not listening loudly at all.

Bryan

tlainhart

12-05-2008, 04:05 PM

Tinman

12-05-2008, 04:13 PM

David, so glad your posting again. You are a huge asset to this board and I hope the few bad apples won't chase you away. That new stuff is fantastic. What/who is Jayapala?

splatt

12-05-2008, 05:03 PM

Everything sounds fantastic to me. The electric guitars sound great - really rich timbres.
For the acoustic instruments with pickups do you record both a mic and a pickup?
thanks, b!
no, the acoustic instruments are only recorded
with mics.

And there is some sub-bass on some of these tracks that makes my Beyer headphones really move - and I'm not listening loudly at all.

ah!
something i clearly forgot about in the mix-chain:
a subharmonic synthesizer,
"in the box":
in this case it's a plug-in called,
aptly enough,
"Lowender".
!
dt / spltrcl

splatt

12-05-2008, 10:24 PM

Thanks for posting these - they're my background at work now. Your stuff is gorgeous and real - my favs.

Any chance of a solo release with these sorts of ambient guitarish-textures, sort of Roach-ian style (I hesitate to make any sort of comparison)? I'll pre-order :-)
thanks, tl.
there is a solo guitar cd planned with ECM,
and there will be an onslaught of texturalising, therein, but.....
..... it will also be partially naked,
and largely focussed upon some
expanded processing + realtime control/editing concepts
which i've been sketching out.....

dt / spltrcl

Woodyworld

12-06-2008, 02:46 AM

oo- Very nice work indeed fella.

Beautiful textures conjuring all sorts of images and feelings. Not got through them all yet, just letting them drift over me in the background. love the eastern influences.

markom89

12-06-2008, 02:49 AM

Thanks so much for posting this, DT.

Truly inspirational- all of it... as you may know (from some of my previous posts), I'm looking to get into scoring music for films and all of your stuff is a *huge* inspiration to me! Long have I admired your work, kind and noble sir.

I can't wait to see the film in which this beautiful music can/will be heard.

All of your previous endeavours in 'movie music' were brilliant.

Mind if I shoot you a PM sometime this week re: scoring "and stuff"? :)

tlainhart

12-06-2008, 08:17 AM

thanks, tl.
..... it will also be partially naked,
and largely focussed upon some
expanded processing + realtime control/editing concepts
which i've been sketching out.....

dt / spltrcl

"partially naked". You mean no/minimal-overdubs (for the naked stuff)? The gear you mentioned in a previous post for these tracks sounded much like your "Painting..." setup. Sounds like you're working with some other tools?

Any thoughts on touring behind the release (think Boston)?

scottl

12-06-2008, 10:32 AM

dude! I listened to all 6 and agree with RH. Largely in awe.... dude.

splatt

12-06-2008, 10:41 AM

Thanks so much for posting this, DT.
you're welcome, m, & thanks
for the very kind response!

Mind if I shoot you a PM sometime this week re: scoring "and stuff"? :)
i don't mind.
but:
ya know, that conversation might may be
better posted as a thread in a suitable forum?
there are a few extremely talented filmic folks,
here on TGP.....
maybe in The Lounge?
just a thought, there.....
dt / spltrcl

ps:
scoredog (craig sharmat) is a mod/operator
of a growing film-scoring forum (for composers),
which you may find of some value & resonance,
here:
v.i. control (http://www.vi-control.net/)
where i also occasionally post,
semi-anonymously.....

splatt

12-06-2008, 10:51 AM

"partially naked". You mean no/minimal-overdubs (for the naked stuff)?
this will be a "live in studio" record.
as well, i've been playing more frequently
--- as contrast ---
with no substantial effects, other than a little reverb.

The gear you mentioned in a previous post for these tracks sounded much like your "Painting..." setup.
indeed, that is my basic rig,
minus the appearance of
the electrix repeater + the nord modular.

Sounds like you're working with some other tools?
yup!
working on some real-time laptop-based
f••k-uppery; final determinations aren't made yet,
though.....
i'm still largely conceptualising, & messing with it;
especially the "controller" aspect.....

Any thoughts on touring behind the release (think Boston)?
well..... my studio schedule is increasing,
which is insane, really.
prezens is in ireland, UK, spain, sweden, etc in april '09.
when the solo-disc is done, though,
it's likely that i will do some performances.....
..... but, i suspect the live performances
will include a drummer-friend.....
early 2010, maybe? late 2009?
dunno, yet, buy
thanks for asking,
bruddah!

dt / spltrcl

tlainhart

12-06-2008, 03:37 PM

i don't mind.
but:
ya know, that conversation might may be
better posted as a thread in a suitable forum?

Yeah - it would be great if responses were public and searchable, so that others with interest could benefit.

I was thinking about pinging re how you get such great mixes, and maybe even consider that as part of the "Painting... MkII" thing you're thinking about (e.g. "Painting and Recording..."), but think that might be better for a public "conversation", elsewhere, at another time (maybe the VI forum you referenced).

tlainhart

12-06-2008, 03:47 PM

this will be a "live in studio" record.
as well, i've been playing more frequently
--- as contrast ---
with no substantial effects, other than a little reverb.

Wow - I look forward to this. If you're in the mood to post any snippets of this somewhere, please do! I'd love (as would everyone else here) to hear your awesomeness in that environment. Single coils, vibe-arm, clean/spanking amp (I'm making assumptions) and reverb, w/ solo improv? Send me your PayPal address :)

Jaya

12-06-2008, 09:13 PM

Beautiful,
I just had a great 12 minutes ride in front of my computer.
Thank you David.

Jaya

splatt

12-07-2008, 10:11 AM

Beautiful,
I just had a great 12 minutes ride in front of my computer.
Thank you David.

you're quite welcome, j!
dt / spltrcl

splatt

12-07-2008, 10:17 AM

David, so glad your posting again. You are a huge asset to this board and I hope the few bad apples won't chase you away. That new stuff is fantastic.
thanks much, tm;
yeah, i've been posting, again.....
..... quite a bit, it seem!,
though i'm likely to disappear for a while,
again, imminently.

What/who is Jayapala?
well, it's me..... another name that some
folks use for me, given to me in my teen-years.
it was also my feeble, pointless attempt
to remain "anonymous" on SoundClick,
since that social network can become
somewhat demanding of time & effort.....

at some point,
i'll put a more comprehensive mp3
collection on my own website & server.

dt / spltrcl