I need a paint code for Sonic Blue!

[eurotrashed]

I could go the more popular way of refinishing the body in nitro, but with a very thick poly paintjob that I don't want to deal with stripping, I figure I can just put a coat of modern automotive paint over it since there should be a color code for the paint as it was an automotive color. I should have a durable finish as long as I prep the body well enough, then a smooth coat of sealer, two coats of base and three coats of clear. Plus it will probably only cost me $50-75 for a pint of Sonic Blue and I have the rest of the supplies already

What car did Sonic Blue come on, wasn't it a Caddy? Anyone know what the paint code would be? My PPG supplier needs a paint code and year to mix the paint for me.

[stormin1155]

Go to NAPA auto parts (one of the larger ones with a complete paint department).. They can match and mix up any color you want. They can even put in aerosol cans for you, and it doesn't cost very much. I had them mix up just a bit of touch-up paint for my 1970 Harley that is a rare color, and I think he only charged me $10.

[Kingbeegtrs]

Sonic Blue Duco 2295 '56 Cadillac



Sonic Blue was used by Fender from 1960 - 1972

If you go to an automotive paint supplier just tell them '56 Caddy and they'll be able to find it. If they look up a chevy code they'll be lost big time. A lot of the newer catalogs don't have the right Duco numbers, so you've got to look it up by the year and manufacturer.

Have a NICE day.:)

[eurotrashed]

Go to NAPA auto parts (one of the larger ones with a complete paint department).. They can match and mix up any color you want. They can even put in aerosol cans for you, and it doesn't cost very much. I had them mix up just a bit of touch-up paint for my 1970 Harley that is a rare color, and I think he only charged me $10.

I have a complete setup with a paint gun and compressor so spray cans isn't necessary. Plus NAPA doesn't carry PPG, and I have only PPG reducer, activators, clear and sealer. Mixing brands can be a big no-no

I'll see if the PPG supplier can do anything with that duco number.

Thanks

[Kingbeegtrs]

I have a complete setup with a paint gun and compressor so spray cans isn't necessary. Plus NAPA doesn't carry PPG, and I have only PPG reducer, activators, clear and sealer. Mixing brands can be a big no-no

I'll see if the PPG supplier can do anything with that duco number.

Thanks


like I said...go to PPG and tell them to get the catalog out for a 56 Caddy. That's how I found it. I went in with the paint code and they couldn't find it. I came back with the year/mfg and Bingo...Sonic blue.

also...you can topcoat PPG basecoat with lacquer as long as you do it within 24 hours. You don't need primer either. You can paint a lacquer burst, top coat it with PPG Sonic Blue basecoat, and then top that with nitro. I do it all the time.

[eurotrashed]

I'm definitively going to want a nice sealer coat to make sure none of this dark purpley blue peaks through. At least make it more durable too. I'm just going to treat the guitar like a car and paint it with the same process I am used to doing.

Whenever I get paint, they can never find it in the computers without a year and color code, at least with my experiences with my suppliers. I'll just take all information I know along and see what they can come up with.

[Kingbeegtrs]

I'm definitively going to want a nice sealer coat to make sure none of this dark purpley blue peaks through. At least make it more durable too. I'm just going to treat the guitar like a car and paint it with the same process I am used to doing.

Whenever I get paint, they can never find it in the computers without a year and color code, at least with my experiences with my suppliers. I'll just take all information I know along and see what they can come up with.


you made me go out back to my shop and get the can - they didn't put the code on it...just wrote "sonic blue"....:jo

[paintguy]

You guys are going to the wrong automotive paint suppliers.;):D

J/k.

Carry on...

[Kingbeegtrs]

You guys are going to the wrong automotive paint suppliers.;):D

J/k.

Carry on...

we only have one here in Lufkin. English Color PPG. I bought both of my Iwatas there and paid less than anyplace I found online. They're pretty great, but I think they're screwing me on the free coloring books that they give to my son :eek:

[K-Line]

Du Pont 2256, tell them that and the computers will cross it for you. I use a DuPont mixing station and alter a bit. The true Sonic Blue from the original formula is not what you think, it is has a nice gray hue to it. Add some white to even out so the peanut gallery accepts it.

[eurotrashed]

how much white?

[Kingbeegtrs]

Du Pont 2256, tell them that and the computers will cross it for you. I use a DuPont mixing station and alter a bit. The true Sonic Blue from the original formula is not what you think, it is has a nice gray hue to it. Add some white to even out so the peanut gallery accepts it.

http://www.provide.net/~cfh/fenderc.html

as I recall, I told eurotrashed to find Duco 2295 - not DuPont 2256 as it is going to give you the wrong color.

IF you scroll down a little you'll see color charts. If you tell the guy at the paint shop that you have a 56 Cadillac he will pull a chart like this out instead of looking up the code. I've seen Fender reissues with colors that are NOTHING like the colors that I get by using this method.

now read this part:

Duco is DuPont's brand name for nitrocellulose lacquer. There’s no such animal as an "enamel lacquer".

Sonic Blue is a DUCO code on the 56 Cadillac paint chart. DuPont paint codes are Acrylic Enamels - not nitrocellulose lacquers.

SO - DUCO was the brand in which Sonic Blue was manufactured...not DuPont. A DuPont code isn't going to give you the correct color...hence your little adding greys and whites problem. As I said originally, just tell them '56 Caddy and you will get the right color. I know this because I went through the same problem. Luckily the guy who runs the PPG where I buy paint is an older guy who's actually used the older paints insead of just talking about them making speculations and heresay facts.


So - all of these guys insisting on "nitrocellulose lacquer" for colors that didn't even come in nitrocellulose lacquer should read this and take note. If you have the following colors on your REAL vintage Fender you don't have Nitro:

Shoreline Gold, Burgundy Mist, Olympic White, Firemist Gold, Firemist Silver, Charcoal Frost, Ocean Turquoise, and Teal Green. These colors came in Acrylic Enamel - NOT NITRO - of course they were topcoated with a nitrocellulose lacquer clear-coat...however Olympic White was sometimes not clear-coated.

[DanR]

Y'know, speaking of Sonic Blue being used on '56 Cadillacs, I could swear they are using the same shade on newer VW Beetles. I've seen a few that seem to be the exact same color as my Sonic Blue Strat. And my Strat definitely has the gray hue that K-Line speaks of.

[Jeff Leites]

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I have a related question, and the experts seem to be already assembled here.

I have a 64 Fender Mustang that I've refinished in various colors over the decades. I want to return it to it's original blue color. Looking at the samples on the Reranch site, I can't tell if it was Sonic Blue or Dalpne Blue. Does anyone know which one Fender would have used on the first Mustangs?

Also, would it have had a clear coat on it? I've been able to get a mirror finish without the clear coat in the past, I'd rather just use the color coats.