Call me nuts, but sometimes I think all I need is a silverface deluxe reverb

[papa taco]

...with some great pedals, of course. Who's with me?
:knitting

[GAD]

You're nuts. It should be a blackface. :)

GAD

[papa taco]

You're nuts. It should be a blackface. :)

GAD

Well, I'd have it blackfaced. Dig? ;)

[JLee]

What's up Nuts. That amp and some pedals aren't going to get you anywhere without a guitar. :NUTS

[HHB]

I use that combo all the time

[soldersucker]

Yes you are Nuts you need 3.(make that 4 since i took the pic)
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t289/stn23/2008_0309camselldelx0242.jpg

[Bottle_Rocket]

There are not many thngs you can't do with a Deluxe Reverb and a few pedals. What it can't do I'm not interested in.

[mg550]

I had one and I regret selling it.

[Tonefish]

Why silver not black was my first question?

Good to see you got that taken care of.....

THen I agree.

[greggorypeccary]

Then I must be nuts too!

http://www.tdpri.com/telephoto/data/500/amps.jpg

[tmuka]

You're not nuts! I agree the DR is a great amp with a fantastic clean sound that takes pedals well too.

[puddinstone]

Why silver not black was my first question?

Good to see you got that taken care of.....

THen I agree.

Cheaper... :jo

[B_of_H]

Why silver not black was my first question?

Good to see you got that taken care of.....

THen I agree.

Cheaper... :jo


actually plenty of people prefer the bright and cleaner sound of silverface amps. I've played both and I don't really have a preference.

[paulydangerous]

I remember when you could buy one of those for 175.00.

[GenoBluzGtr]

Not nuts... hell, you could even get away with a single great pedal and a DRRI if you're on a budget... A good Zendrive, a Tim, or a Barber Direct Drive. A speaker swap (I use a Jensen Neo) and some decent tubes (JJs or NOS) and you have a rig that will do nearly any gig (some may require mic'ing) and do it exceptionally well.

Picture this... pick up a used DRRI for about $650 or so... a used Direct Drive for $100. Change the speaker for an Emi C-Rex or Jensen Neo for about another C-note, grab some JJ tubes for about $50 bucks.... You're in for less than a grand even if you spring for nice cables and a power supply for the Zendrive. Add your favorite guitar and that's a VERY nice rig that will sound as good as nearly anything else you could get.

Granted, the Silverface or real BF DR would be nicer, and have more re-sale value and likely be more enviable... but once the drums, bass, keys, etc start up, it would be very difficult to tell the difference in the mix. And with a DRRI you aren't risking damaging a nice vintage amp in the process (transporting, load-ins, load-outs, power spikes, drunk people, beverage proximity, etc... ).

[papa taco]

Not nuts... hell, you could even get away with a single great pedal and a DRRI if you're on a budget... A good Zendrive, a Tim, or a Barber Direct Drive. A speaker swap (I use a Jensen Neo) and some decent tubes (JJs or NOS) and you have a rig that will do nearly any gig (some may require mic'ing) and do it exceptionally well.

Picture this... pick up a used DRRI for about $650 or so... a used Direct Drive for $100. Change the speaker for an Emi C-Rex or Jensen Neo for about another C-note, grab some JJ tubes for about $50 bucks.... You're in for less than a grand even if you spring for nice cables and a power supply for the Zendrive. Add your favorite guitar and that's a VERY nice rig that will sound as good as nearly anything else you could get.

Granted, the Silverface or real BF DR would be nicer, and have more re-sale value and likely be more enviable... but once the drums, bass, keys, etc start up, it would be very difficult to tell the difference in the mix. And with a DRRI you aren't risking damaging a nice vintage amp in the process (transporting, load-ins, load-outs, power spikes, drunk people, beverage proximity, etc... ).

You make some good arguments, sir!
:BEER

[Shiny McShine]

I love DR's.

[Robal]

It would be fine if you don't play with a loud drummer/bass player. If you do, and you want to play mostly clean, the amp may not have enough power to keep up. Recording or with a quiet group, it's great. I have one myself at home. But when I played out, I brought a Super Reverb more often.

[picnic]

I have had several DRRI's and done the usual upgrades. Webers Cali's and 12F150's, Emi RWB and Tonkers and JJ 6V6's. All sounded great, even held their own next to my old Allen Accomplice. the Accomplice won out more on features than tone.
Now I have a 68 SFDR with a Tonkerlite and NOS tubes. Nice sounding amp with the vintage vibe. not to be a party pooper, but next to my Fargen Blackbird the DR comes up short to my ears.
I wouldn't want to have to decide which one would be sold if needed. Fargen sounds great, SFDR has the coolness factor built in.
I'm thankful to be able to play some killer amps.

[Totally Bored]

My 72 DR ( Blackfaced ) 78 Strat ,06 Tele and Pedal Board is all that and a Bag of chips.

http://www.fenderforum.com/userphotos/photo.php?id=46011

http://www.fenderforum.com/userphotos/photo.php?id=42410

[bug0711]

Call me nuts, but I much prefer a SFDR that has been BF'd to an actual BF. They seem to have more throttle ...

[Rockinrob86]

you're nuts! you dont need pedals...

[Totally Bored]

you're nuts! you dont need pedals...


Pedals help me get "every" sound. My DR can be a loud mutha I almost never get her past 3 and I need some distortion and overdrive to get it all.

[stratzrus]

My 72 DR ( Blackfaced ) 78 Strat ,06 Tele and Pedal Board is all that and a Bag of chips.

http://www.fenderforum.com/userphotos/photo.php?id=42410
you're nuts! you dont need pedals...

Yeah, but he just might need that kazoo...;)

[jimfog]

My 72 DR ( Blackfaced ) 78 Strat ,06 Tele and Pedal Board is all that and a Bag of chips.

http://www.fenderforum.com/userphotos/photo.php?id=46011



Apparently it's all that........and a bag of TRASH!!! lol

I could live with just my DR, definitely. It's the clean against which I judge all others..........

[Totally Bored]

Apparently it's all that........and a bag of TRASH!!! lol.........


lol. that was from a BBQ Biker gig that we had 2 hours to kill so I took a few pics. We got trashed as well !

Note to self : Must get some Gig shots of my RIG someday.

[Totally Bored]

Yeah, but he just might need that kazoo...;)

A Kazoo can double as a weapon of mass destruction btw.

[shark_bite]

You know, I had this exact same thought this weekend. I just retubed with JJs and then this weekend put a mint, original D120F in mine. Of course it's heavy as hell now, but I defy anyone to find me an amp that sounds better. We used it as the house amp for the jammers last night at an open blues jam, and every single guitar player (granted there were only 5 counting me but still...) came off stage shaking his head like he had just seen Jesus. "Holy SHIT, that amp sounds good!" It's funny, because I've been gassing for Goodsells and Zs and Carrs all year, but after the speaker swap I just can't imagine how anything could sound better.

[picnic]

Just the kind of thread I love. I just got a RWB in today. Very low hours, may not even be close to broke in. Should I put it in the 68 SFDR or the Fargen Blackbird 40?

[ozspawn]

You're nuts. But I agree with you.

[Blue Strat]

...with some great pedals, of course. Who's with me?
:knitting

Mine's a drip edge, but a later model will do. I've been doing gigs of all sizes with a DR and pedals for 15 years. For some gigs a mic and a PA do the trick. That's what PA's are for.

[Texsunburst59]

I'd need a wall of Fenders by a pool to be happy. Just a DR and some pedals would not cut it.:D

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/Texsunburst59/100_0332.jpg

[openbar]

That's my one amp I will NEVER sell. Sure it's an uncool '78 or something, doesn't matter, everyone begs me to sell it to them. It's rarely loud enough for gigs, but recording it sounds like it should, and I'm getting older and expect the gigs to get quieter eventually.

Imagine if it had just a little more power?

[Tuberoast]

I have a 71. The internal mid was wired to the bass pot on the normal channel, so now I have mids to dial in. It's all reversible! It's my mainstay and has been for a long time. I put NOS tubes in and stand back.

[DC1]

Nah...

You'll get my HIWATT

http://members.tripod.com/~dcsbulldog/HIWATT_HALFSTACK.jpg


when you pry it from my cold dead fingers...


dc

[Bluesbuff]

It's become my #1 amp since I put the Torres blues forever tube set in it. A lot easier to haul around than the shiva, loud enough for most indoor gigs and I actually like the tone better than the omega modded HR deluxe with cannibis rex. It has an altec 417H speaker, not sure it's the best choice but I haven't started the speaker search yet. BTW paid $675 +shipping for it. Not a collectors piece but still a bargain.

[shark_bite]

It's become my #1 amp since I put the Torres blues forever tube set in it. A lot easier to haul around than the shiva, loud enough for most indoor gigs and I actually like the tone better than the omega modded HR deluxe with cannibis rex. It has an altec 417H speaker, not sure it's the best choice but I haven't started the speaker search yet. BTW paid $675 +shipping for it. Not a collectors piece but still a bargain.

Listen (read?) carefully.

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Search over. Try one out, you will see Jesus too, so to speak.

[papa taco]

OK, I decided I need a Marshall 2061x half-stack too.
:)

wtf?

[Tbone135]

Y'all are killing me. I've been thinking about selling my DRRI for awhile since I've been enjoying an old Bedrock lately. It has a C12 Jensen currently, how much difference could I really expect if I tried something else in it?

[shark_bite]

Y'all are killing me. I've been thinking about selling my DRRI for awhile since I've been enjoying an old Bedrock lately. It has a C12 Jensen currently, how much difference could I really expect if I tried something else in it?

Trust me on this one -- LOTS. Like I've already said a couple times in this thread, I really like the high power approach, which is why I went to the JBL. Weber makes a couple similar speakers (Cali alnico in particular, as well as the Cali ceramic and the Neo 12). These don't really sound anything like a Jensen. The speaker hardly breaks up if at all. So when I'm running the amp wide open, it's just pre/power tubes overdriving, not speakers breaking up. The JBL is tight through the entire frequency range, too. Compared to the speaker I had in there before (a 70s 65W CTS from a Sunn amp), it's night and day. If you're curious, I used the DR for the song "Hope I Heard You Wrong" on my Soundclick, and that was with the old speaker. It sounds pretty good... so imagine a night and day improvement on that tone? It's sick.

[stratman_el84]

You're not nuts (well, no more than the rest of us...worried yet?).

Most every guitar player I come across is using far far too much amp for the venues they play. An amp in the 20-watt range through a fairly-efficient set of speakers is plenty of amp unless you're playing metal in large venues.

I play high-energy blues in a 5-piece band with just a 20-watt amp and a 2-12 open-back cab for 95% of the gigs, and change-up to a Marshall '80s-era 1965A 4-10 for larger venues or outdoor gigs.

It's plenty loud enough for smaller venues un-mic'ed, and mic'ed I used it to play a July 4th outdoor gig for 10-15 thousand this past summer without a problem.

What's the point in having all that great tube tone if you end up either having the amp volume set at '1' or '2' with pedals for OD/distortion, or have to crank it through an attenuator, effectively killing the sonic benefit of a great all-tube 50- or 100-watter to be able to actually play out with it? Might as well use a rack preamp and power amp, or a SS modeling amp.

Cheers!

Strat

[Simpy]

My SFDR is the one amp that I always seem to go back to. I've doubled my collection of amps since I first started coming here, including Matchless, Bad Cat, and Sewell(ok, I really do love that el84 chime) but the SFDR is just a plain, balls to the walls solid amp. I know you guys said you have some loud drummers, but I can't really imagine needing a louder amp, short of playing a large outdoor gig. Anyone else add an el84 amp along side your DR? I've been thinking about doing this with my Bad Cat CubII. It sounds awesome in my studio.

[KCblues]

Regarding the JBL's, do you have any experience in the later E120 and K120 alnicos versus the D120?

[shark_bite]

Regarding the JBL's, do you have any experience in the later E120 and K120 alnicos versus the D120?

No, and sadly nobody else responded to my cry for help the other day asking these very questions. I'd really like to hear a DR speaker shootout using a D120F, an E120, a K120, a Weber Cali alnico, maybe a Cali ceramic, and a Weber Neo Mag.

But alas, no such shootout seems to have been done yet. However, I'm obviously feeling pretty good about the fact that the one I have in my DR is sort of universally considered to be at the top of the the heap. The K120 should be pretty close. A D131 is much rarer but also much less known, and practically the same as the D120F. The E120 is similar to the K120 but has a ceramic magnet. Weber uses smaller voice coils and lighter magnets if I recall correctly. And the Neo is basically designed to have the same energy characteristics as the D120, but obviously is a very different speaker due to the magnet.

[soldersucker]

Call me nut's cause i am because it's midnight and i just drove through a bitch of a Canadian snowstorm for 3 hrs to snag a 66 Blackface Deluxe reverb for 800.00!
Shit i'd get back in the car and do it again.That makes 4 SFDR's and a Blackface.

[shark_bite]

Call me nut's cause i am because it's midnight and i just drove through a bitch of a Canadian snowstorm for 3 hrs to snag a 66 Blackface Deluxe reverb for 800.00!
Shit i'd get back in the car and do it again.That makes 4 SFDR's and a Blackface.

WOW. Congrats!!!!!! You just got the deal of a lifetime.

[sinasl1]

I love me a nice deluxe. You're right, for so many situations, you can't beat them. Now, a nice ac30 and a deluxe... And maybe a 50 watt plexi with a greenback loaded cab.... And a few pedals... I could live with that forever and be ok with it.

[teleman55]

My SFDR is the one amp that I always seem to go back to. I've doubled my collection of amps since I first started coming here, including Matchless, Bad Cat, and Sewell(ok, I really do love that el84 chime) but the SFDR is just a plain, balls to the walls solid amp. I know you guys said you have some loud drummers, but I can't really imagine needing a louder amp, short of playing a large outdoor gig. Anyone else add an el84 amp along side your DR? I've been thinking about doing this with my Bad Cat CubII. It sounds awesome in my studio.

I love my SFDR. It's my main amp. Must be something about how those 6v6s break up. It's usually plenty loud for whatever I do. By itself in a small place, through PA in larger. When not (large stage, outdoors, etc.), I got a Pro Reverb for that.
Sometimes I get complicated and a/b it with an el84 amp (Crate V32 Palomino). That's a real nice pairing, as is the Crate with the Pro Reverb.

Original poster, if you're nuts, it's in a good way.