Heritage Victory Combo Output Jack Variations

[rogerramjett]

Hey Guys - I'm looking at buying a Heritage Victory combo but I'm a bit confused about the output jack variations on these combo amps.

Some of them have a single 16 ohm jack while others have dual 16, 8, and 4 ohm speaker jacks.

Why the variations? Is it related to the age of the amps?

Thanks!

[PaulC]

I made that amp for Heritage, so I can answer this.

The combo came first, and since it was a single 12 it just had the 8 ohm tap. It didn't use a standard deluxe type ot though. It was a custom job Heyboer made for me. A year or so later I made the head version, and added the extra taps so it could be used with different cabs. I thought it sounded just as good as the old one, so i used it in the combo, and put the extra jacks for the different imps on the chassis so you could use ext cabs with it.

Some have asked me why all the jacks instead of an imp switch, and that's just because I've worked on lots of amps in the past where the switch died, and I think hard wired to jacks is a more solid connection.

Later, PaulC
myspace.com/paulcaudio

[JeffD]

Paul,
Thanks for taking the time to provide the information (I'm not the OP, but nevertheless). If you've got the time, I'd be interested in learning a little more about the Victory model in general. In what ways did you want to vary from the BF Deluxe format?
Thanks.

I made that amp for Heritage, so I can answer this.

The combo came first, and since it was a single 12 it just had the 8 ohm tap. It didn't use a standard deluxe type ot though. It was a custom job Heyboer made for me. A year or so later I made the head version, and added the extra taps so it could be used with different cabs. I thought it sounded just as good as the old one, so i used it in the combo, and put the extra jacks for the different imps on the chassis so you could use ext cabs with it.

Some have asked me why all the jacks instead of an imp switch, and that's just because I've worked on lots of amps in the past where the switch died, and I think hard wired to jacks is a more solid connection.

Later, PaulC
myspace.com/paulcaudio

[PaulC]

Hey Jeff,

The Victory is sort of like a cross between a AC50/JTM45 with 6v6's. I wanted something that had a tone that was a cross between a deluxe/jtm/vox thing. It doesn't use a 12AU7 for the first stage like the AC50, but it's padded down to about those levels. It's got the JTM tone stack, but with the AC50's inverter/lack of feedback, and combination bias. The combo had verb, but the head had a second channel that doubled as a parallel FX loop for the 1st. It was a single triode stage DC coupled into a cathode follower driving a tone control that's a panning style control like what you'd see in a Big Muff. That all came from wanting to add a tone control to the FX to warm up some dig effects, but it sounded really good on it's own so it was made into a channel. The two channels were brought into different sides of the inverter, so you could blend them together if you didn't want to use the 2nd channel as a loop, or you could put a patch cable in the loop which would stack the first channel into the second for some higher gain sounds.

It was a cool amp, but for now Heritage isn't making amps anymore, and I don't know if they'll every get back to it.

Later, PaulC
myspace.com/paulcaudio

[JeffD]

Thanks for such a detailed response! Very tempting to pick up one of these. After your Tim pedal, I trust your ears, and your ability to tweak electronics. I assume these are PCB constructed? Did Heritage do a good job with that?
Thanks again.

Hey Jeff,

The Victory is sort of like a cross between a AC50/JTM45 with 6v6's. I wanted something that had a tone that was a cross between a deluxe/jtm/vox thing. It doesn't use a 12AU7 for the first stage like the AC50, but it's padded down to about those levels. It's got the JTM tone stack, but with the AC50's inverter/lack of feedback, and combination bias. The combo had verb, but the head had a second channel that doubled as a parallel FX loop for the 1st. It was a single triode stage DC coupled into a cathode follower driving a tone control that's a panning style control like what you'd see in a Big Muff. That all came from wanting to add a tone control to the FX to warm up some dig effects, but it sounded really good on it's own so it was made into a channel. The two channels were brought into different sides of the inverter, so you could blend them together if you didn't want to use the 2nd channel as a loop, or you could put a patch cable in the loop which would stack the first channel into the second for some higher gain sounds.

It was a cool amp, but for now Heritage isn't making amps anymore, and I don't know if they'll every get back to it.

Later, PaulC
myspace.com/paulcaudio

[PaulC]

Thanks for such a detailed response! Very tempting to pick up one of these. After your Tim pedal, I trust your ears, and your ability to tweak electronics. I assume these are PCB constructed? Did Heritage do a good job with that?
Thanks again.

Thanks for the kind words! The amps were hand wired on Turret boards. They were all built in TN - chassis, cabs and all. No pc boards, but to be honest i don't have a problem with that if it's done right.

Things were going really well with the amps up until the summer of '07. That's when there was a factory shut down at the guitar company that lasted for several months. It came out of the blue, and we didn't have any control over it - it killed us. I left in Dec '07 to build pedals full time, and the amp company closed up about 3 months later.

Later, PaulC
myspace.com/paulcaudio

[rogerramjett]

Thanks for the great info, Paul!

[hawkeyeinexile]

as the proud & happy owner of Vic head #1 let me add "merry Christmas" to thee & thine, Paul

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