New Catalinbread-Dirty Little Secret

[TheJudge]

Still waiting to hear from someone regarding the incorrect pedal being shipped.

[Bobby D]

Please let me/us know your post-honeymoon impressions.


will do....got a WHOLE bunch of live dates starting at the end of this week, will be offline (gasp!) for a while, as i am on the road.

i will be trying it with a few different amps, and in a few different situations.

we will see if the "honeymoon" ends.......but sometimes you know you like something right from the first nite together. if i had not liked it much, i would have only used it on one or two songs....

[Bobby D]

Bobby D,

I still disagree that it's dynamics match the OCD, however I do think the DLS could be my best purchase of 2009. Not necessarily the best piece of gear I've bought (the Toneczar Dove was pretty amazing), but my best purchase.

I'm not in a honey moon period. I've done this too many times, in fact, I think I'm predisposed to root against any new pedals I get.

I also would like to reiterate, the DLS stacked into a Timmy is AMAZING. One of the best stacks EVER. I'm talking as good the DRD and HBOD stacked (which I also highly recommend if you haven't experienced this...

i had a feeling that the Timmy/DLS combo would be really powerful. And at the pricing, may possibly be the best "working mans" pedal stack combo around!

and don't get me wrong, i DO like the OCD a lot......it's a great pedal. i think i had a v1, v2, and v4....

[alnico2]

Was looking for mine in the post today, perhaps tomorrow.

[H_V_C]

i had a feeling that the Timmy/DLS combo would be really powerful. And at the pricing, may possibly be the best "working mans" pedal stack combo around!

and don't get me wrong, i DO like the OCD a lot......it's a great pedal. i think i had a v1, v2, and v4....

It's funny that with our pedal preferences, two $150 pedals stacked seems like a "working mans" pedal stack.


Don't get me wrong, I do NOT like the OCD at all......it's voiced terribly IMO.
But I think it's dynamics are amazing.

[Purple]

Don't get me wrong, I do NOT like the OCD at all......it's voiced terribly IMO.
But I think it's dynamics are amazing.

I had a v1 and your description here fits my experience with it quite well.

But the damned thing would not stack with any pedal well.

[jb1911]

The Timmy > DLS is so beautiful that I think the BBB07 may be replaced on my board. It's
been on there a long time. With the Lunar Module for fuzz tones, those 3 dirt pedals look
like my dirt line up for the future. This would also allow me to put the wah on the floor in
front of my board, something I couldn't do with the BBB07 on board.

[drod2045]

using 2 pedals to replace 1? You could put the wah in chain after the BBB?

sounds strange but only you know what you like and whats right for you!

[Bobby D]

It's funny that with our pedal preferences, two $150 pedals stacked seems like a "working mans" pedal stack.


Don't get me wrong, I do NOT like the OCD at all......it's voiced terribly IMO.
But I think it's dynamics are amazing.

yes......while i would certainly qualify as a bit of a corksniffer, i USE all my pedals, and they get velcroed, gigged, and have to deal with the salt air and humidity of florida and key west environment.

i think $150 is sort of a magic "pricepoint" for a pedal.....more than that and it becomes too expensive for many players.

but truth be told from my perspective -- the $129 Timmy and $159 DLS can keep up with many $400 or more pedals I have owned. it's refreshing to find something that excites me as much as the DLS does, and it is not $400 and has some long wait list....

and i think BOTH of those pedals are priced affordably for the "gigging dogs" out there :)

[H_V_C]

yes......while i would certainly qualify as a bit of a corksniffer, i USE all my pedals, and they get velcroed, gigged, and have to deal with the salt air and humidity of florida and key west environment.

i think $150 is sort of a magic "pricepoint" for a pedal.....more than that and it becomes too expensive for many players.

but truth be told from my perspective -- the $129 Timmy and $159 DLS can keep up with many $400 or more pedals I have owned. it's refreshing to find something that excites me as much as the DLS does, and it is not $400 and has some long wait list....

and i think BOTH of those pedals are priced affordably for the "gigging dogs" out there :)

I'm with you %100. For a while, just about everything on my board was worth over $400 (except my tuner and wah), and but now I'm quite happy with the $150-200 area.(mostly, I still have my trusty BJF PGC and FOX Rox Captain Coconut 2)
As a professional musician myself, I think having great tools is important, but I have learned that just because something is more expensive doesn't mean it's better (no offense to BJFe, his stuff is killer). I am looking forward to the MP Sweet honey Overdrive though....


Btw, The timmy and DLS stack I'm using is DLS first, then into the Timmy. I use the timmy as a thickening agent for the DLS. It's just silly good.
The most convincing Marshall tones I've ever got through a pedal into my fenders.

[coldfingaz]

Btw, The timmy and DLS stack I'm using is DLS first, then into the Timmy. I use the timmy as a thickening agent for the DLS. It's just silly good. The most convincing Marshall tones I've ever got through a pedal into my fenders.


This sounds interesting. I haven't fiddled much yet with stacking my DLS (partly because it sounds so great alone), but I have a Timmy and will have a Screw Driver soon so I've been wondering if I should use 3 OD's or not. I usually run the Timmy in front of other OD's unless I'm running a Screamer type (which I put up front), but I'll definitely have to try the DLS before the Timmy now.

[-DC/AC-]

Anyone ever try running one of these into a Marshall, either a clone or the real thing?

[erksin]

Anyone ever try running one of these into a Marshall, either a clone or the real thing?

Forumite Purple did much of the exhaustive testing through and against his collection of Marshalls. He's run the DLS through his amps and it works as advertised.

[erksin]

This sounds interesting. I haven't fiddled much yet with stacking my DLS (partly because it sounds so great alone), but I have a Timmy and will have a Screw Driver soon so I've been wondering if I should use 3 OD's or not. I usually run the Timmy in front of other OD's unless I'm running a Screamer type (which I put up front), but I'll definitely have to try the DLS before the Timmy now.

We are HUGE Screw Driver fans at C-Bread - the SD -> DLS stack is really, REALLY awesome IMO.

The Timmy sounds really good at either end too.

[roquero]

Anyone ever try running one of these into a Marshall, either a clone or the real thing?

I did- following is a clip running it through a Flying Tomato 2.0 Fuzz into a 1983 Marshall JCM 800 -4104 combo with 2/ 12s:

http://lastgang.com/dls_tomato2.mp3

I liked the DLS better through my Fender BF Bandmaster and Champ than I did through the Marshall

[Bobby D]

here's a clip I did today running the DLS into about the WORST little solid state 15 watt practice amp one could possibly use......and yet the DLS came through sounding good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vN0_KvhqYI

[playthecray]

Great video. You should try stacking with some other pedals. It sounded like your clean sound had a hint of delay. I need to get a DLS

[In Tune]

[quote=Bobby D;5996168]here's a clip I did today running the DLS into about the WORST little solid state 15 watt practice amp one could possibly use......and yet the DLS came through sounding good!
Cool Man, what was the crappy amp?? didnt sound crappy at all. Can we get a full blown review on the FRF???No delay>??Juicy when you kicked it in with the DLS..............for sure....rock on with the ORANGE.

[jhp612]

you dls guys should check out the new Menatone Shut Up and Drive. The DLS sounded a bit flubby to me, but the SUAD made my clean amps get that great tight marshall, almost diezel ish drive :) also go all the way down for tubescreamer levels... very versitile

[Purple]

here's a clip I did today running the DLS into about the WORST little solid state 15 watt practice amp one could possibly use......and yet the DLS came through sounding good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vN0_KvhqYI

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[drunkenguitar]

Is that a Tool song on the second riff in this vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh75WiPByuI

[Purple]

Is that a Tool song on the second riff in this vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh75WiPByuI

not a specific Tool song, no. i don't think so anyway. i dunno. the camera started rolling and i was told to play something. i had nothing in mind so that's what came out. yes, i'm a tool.

[drunkenguitar]

not a specific Tool song, no. i don't think so anyway. i dunno. the camera started rolling and i was told to play something. i had nothing in mind so that's what came out. yes, i'm a tool.

So you're Howard. :AOK
It sounds like a part of a song on the Aenima album. I just can't remember which track it is. :confused:

[Purple]

So you're Howard. :AOK
It sounds like a part of a song on the Aenima album. I just can't remember which track it is. :confused:

oooh, i think i know what you're talking about, can't think of the title though.

at any rate, aenima is a great album!

[Jim S]

Does anybody know where Catlinbread is located or their phone number? I can't find it on their website.

[Bobby D]

[quote=Bobby D;5996168]here's a clip I did today running the DLS into about the WORST little solid state 15 watt practice amp one could possibly use......and yet the DLS came through sounding good!
Cool Man, what was the crappy amp?? didnt sound crappy at all. Can we get a full blown review on the FRF???No delay>??Juicy when you kicked it in with the DLS..............for sure....rock on with the ORANGE.


yes, i usually have just a touch of the mad professor deep blue delay on....at all times :-)

other than that, just the clean zoom practice amp, one of those digital modeling jobs, zoom fire-15 for the trainspotters. it's a REALLY crappy amp, i only use it when my gear is loaded up and i can't get to anything else.

FRF is a very nice fuzz that crosses over to the distortion side of things, to my ears. there's a full demo of THAT pedal at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nkj8Q1u064

i am re-arranging my board today, and gonna try some more combinations with the DLS -- if i hit on something GOOD, i may film another one! :YinYang

[Bobby D]

Does anybody know where Catlinbread is located or their phone number? I can't find it on their website.


hey Jim! they are in Oregon, and you can email them thru the website, that's usually the best method to get in touch with them.....:BEER

[Jim S]

hey Jim! they are in Oregon, and you can email them thru the website, that's usually the best method to get in touch with them.....
I tried that and TGP Private Messages. I had some previous responses but nothing recently; maybe their internet is down. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubtt.

I called Portland, Oregon information but they don't have a Catalinbread listing.

[dudinka]

me too. no reply in 3 days regarding the DLS I bought 13 days ago.

[erksin]

me too. no reply in 3 days regarding the DLS I bought 13 days ago.

Actually, Yossi - you've sent me two emails today. I've not received any others from you.

To be clear so there is no more confusion - if you re-read the description in the shopping cart on our site, it says 'Please allow up to two weeks for delivery'.

http://www.catalinbread.com/proddetail.php? (http://www.catalinbread.com/proddetail.php?)
prod=DLSWHI&PHPSESSID=c777d9f0861b0abc75729dfa14e02fb3

So far, we've been able to beat that two week wait on a consistant basis.
We have a lot of orders pending, and we sell them as fast as we make them. We pride ourselves on having good communication, but we can't always respond as quickly as we'd like or a fast as others would like us to.

Mike

[erksin]

I tried that and TGP Private Messages. I had some previous responses but nothing recently; maybe their internet is down. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubtt.

Just imagine for a second trying to juggle correspondence from PMs on a variety of gear forums (there are other worlds outside of TGP), personal emails to my account, and regular inquiries to our site.

C-Bread is not a full time job for me, I do this from home when I'm not working my other job or taking care of my 1st grader. I answer emails at 5:30 am, 11:30 at night, weekends, holidays - basically whenever I can. I'm sorry you feel I'm not responsive enough, Jim - not really sure what else to tell you.

[Panacea]

Actually, Yossi - you've sent me two emails today. I've not received any others from you.

To be clear so there is no more confusion - if you re-read the description in the shopping cart on our site, it says 'Please allow up to two weeks for delivery'.

http://www.catalinbread.com/proddetail.php? (http://www.catalinbread.com/proddetail.php?)
prod=DLSWHI&PHPSESSID=c777d9f0861b0abc75729dfa14e02fb3

So far, we've been able to beat that two week wait on a consistant basis.
We have a lot of orders pending, and we sell them as fast as we make them. We pride ourselves on having good communication, but we can't always respond as quickly as we'd like or a fast as others would like us to.

MikeHey Mike, I bought a DLS off the 'Bay (having read the part about taking up to two weeks) and got it in 8 days, and my friend ordered the day after me and got his in 10. It sounds like the post office can be fast or slow depending on the load they have as well. :BEER Jeff

[Panacea]

(there are other worlds outside of TGP)Where? :huh :rotflmao

[Jim S]

Just imagine for a second trying to juggle correspondence from PMs on a variety of gear forums (there are other worlds outside of TGP), personal emails to my account, and regular inquiries to our site.

C-Bread is not a full time job for me, I do this from home when I'm not working my other job or taking care of my 1st grader. I answer emails at 5:30 am, 11:30 at night, weekends, holidays - basically whenever I can. I'm sorry you feel I'm not responsive enough, Jim - not really sure what else to tell you.


First point well taken except TGP is the only guitar forum that matters.
Other worlds? There is only one other world and it's the world of the white room: skiing*
I really had no idea C-Bread was not a full time job for you. And I'm not being sarcastic.
I got your emails this afternoon; I think we are good as you'll see. Note I only said I had not heard from you. I didn't call you out on the carpet and bash you. I think you reponse to my query makes things good.
What else can you tell me? That my creative genius rivals Hendrix, Michael Hedges, and Bill Frisell. That would be really awesome albeit destroy any credibility would have.
*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/IntenseJim/Ski/JimRedDogRidge201509.jpg
Squaw Red Dog Ridge

[GoofyDawg]

Damn! I'm really jones-ing for a DLS, but after buying two guitars and an amp recently (and dealing with the "why the hell do you need more gear?!!!" question from the boss lady :) ), I have to lay low for awhile, and quietly put aside funds. Hey Mike, my bro says, "Hi!"

[forestryguy]

I received my DLS yesterday. Bought on eBay BIN. Arrived in 8 days and its purple as posted. Just for those who may be wondering. Good service erskin, IMO.

[erksin]

First point well taken except TGP is the only guitar forum that matters.
Other worlds? There is only one other world and it's the world of the white room: skiing*
I really had no idea C-Bread was not a full time job for you. And I'm not being sarcastic.
I got your emails this afternoon; I think we are good as you'll see. Note I only said I had not heard from you. I didn't call you out on the carpet and bash you. I think you reponse to my query makes things good.
What else can you tell me? That my creative genius rivals Hendrix, Michael Hedges, and Bill Frisell. That would be really awesome albeit destroy any credibility would have.
*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/IntenseJim/Ski/JimRedDogRidge201509.jpg
Squaw Red Dog Ridge

I lived near Alpine Meadows for a year, and Telluride CO for eight years - so I'm familiar with the white room.

:BEER

[erksin]

Damn! I'm really jones-ing for a DLS, but after buying two guitars and an amp recently (and dealing with the "why the hell do you need more gear?!!!" question from the boss lady :) ), I have to lay low for awhile, and quietly put aside funds. Hey Mike, my bro says, "Hi!"

Brendan - I have a Pedaltrain Mini and a new Fuel Tank Jr. on the way and I have to race home every night this week to make sure the I get to the UPS dude before my wife does.

:BEER

[erksin]

me too. no reply in 3 days regarding the DLS I bought 13 days ago.

Yossi - I just checked on your order and it has shipped. Since you're in Israel, I have no idea how long your Customs/Post agencies take to deliver a package.

[Bobby D]

Jim S -- I want to come skiing with you, so I can play your bowling ball swirl Sadowsky :drool

:BEER

bobby d

[Jim S]

The door's open my man. Squaw closes in two weeks and after that we hike for turns.

(I lived in Boca Raton from 1994 to 2003 and worked at Holy Cross Hospital in Ft Lauderale for most of those years.)

[jezzbo]

Brendan - I have a Pedaltrain Mini and a new Fuel Tank Jr. on the way and I have to race home every night this week to make sure the I get to the UPS dude before my wife does.

:BEER
That sounds just like me! :D
Yesterday I intercepted a message from the postoffice saying that they have a package for me. I'm gonna get it this evening after work.

[dudinka]

Yossi - I just checked on your order and it has shipped. Since you're in Israel, I have no idea how long your Customs/Post agencies take to deliver a package.

thanks!

just to be clear - I didn't want to hurry up the shipping, I just wanted to get some info about its status, and by not getting any reply in 3 days (sending emails to 3 different addresses of CB btw) - I contacted you.

again - thanks a lot for the kind help!

[scmavl]

I got my DLS off the board here last week. Why anyone would sell it is beyond me. It's THE DISTORTION pedal I've been searching for. Nice job, erksin.

[coldfingaz]

Brendan - I have a Pedaltrain Mini and a new Fuel Tank Jr. on the way and I have to race home every night this week to make sure the I get to the UPS dude before my wife does.

:BEER



That is EXACTLY the same contents as my last MF order. And, yes, I also raced home to be there so my wife didn't answer the door.

[Soundhound]

I just bought a second one, for my smaller, grab n go board. I didn't mean to. It just happened.

[GoofyDawg]

Brendan - I have a Pedaltrain Mini and a new Fuel Tank Jr. on the way and I have to race home every night this week to make sure the I get to the UPS dude before my wife does.

:BEER

Totally funny, Mike! I know how that is! Luckily for me, I usually get home before my wife. But I also have it set up with my kids that when Daddy gets a package to please put it in my studio, under my desk where Mommy can't see it when she walks in.

When I got my latest guitar though, I waited for the UPS guy in the morning because it was a half day for my wife (she's a teacher), and there was no way I was going to take a chance. HA! It was easier with my amp because I test and evaluate amps from different amp builders all the time, so I usually have four or five amps in my home studio at once. It's easier to place a new one in the group. :)

Ah, the deviousness we have to engage in to slake our gear lust!

[Bobby D]

ha! i told my wife-to-be last nite that i was running out of space on my current pedalboard.

her response:

"well, you're just gonna have to get that bigger trailer trash board you were looking at"

SHE is a KEEPER ;)

[todd richman]

Bobby D, I wanna marry your wife! Do ya' think she would let you get the '59 Burst too!

[Bobby D]

Bobby D, I wanna marry your wife! Do ya' think she would let you get the '59 Burst too!

funny thing about her -- she's been in the live music biz for 20 years.....so she's pretty well versed with gear.

she has been wanting to buy me a tyler for a couple of years now. she loves the burning water, as do i ;)

but the '59 burst.....she'd probably rather have a HOUSE :)

[Agreed]

I talk about this any time wife threads come up on HC, but I haven't yet mentioned it here - my wife paid off my THD Univalve on our wedding day! An hour before we said our vows, she was on the phone with her card. What a woman, she supports me in everything I do :) I wouldn't trade her for anything.

[Jim S]

she has been wanting to buy me a tyler for a couple of years now. she loves the burning water, as do i ;)
That is a great gal!

[Bobby D]

I talk about this any time wife threads come up on HC, but I haven't yet mentioned it here - my wife paid off my THD Univalve on our wedding day! An hour before we said our vows, she was on the phone with her card. What a woman, she supports me in everything I do :) I wouldn't trade her for anything.

i love hearing that!


i had some that were REALLY a pain in the ass when it came to new gear:huh

luckily, mine realizes that spending money on gear is far better than spending money on drugs, booze, strip clubs, gambling, or any other of the numerous ways boys waste money......

[Agreed]

i love hearing that!


i had some that were REALLY a pain in the ass when it came to new gear:huh

luckily, mine realizes that spending money on gear is far better than spending money on drugs, booze, strip clubs, gambling, or any other of the numerous ways boys waste money......

It doesn't hurt that she gets included in my gear purchases a lot, too ;) But she definitely has never pitched even the beginnings of a fit, even when it went from one guitar, to two guitars, to four guitars, now eight guitars. Haha. I keep bringing them home, she doesn't bat an eye, just tells me what she likes and doesn't like about them. She digs my gibby marauder :cool:

[ianb]

I just bought a second one, for my smaller, grab n go board. I didn't mean to. It just happened.

Sure.......;)

[Bobby D]

back on topic ;)

i have been spending a LOt of time with the DLS trying it with all my pedals and different settings and such.

i'm really more impressed with it the more i play it. the low gain rhythm sounds are outstanding. you can really tell that nic, erksin, and howard spent some time to get it "voiced" correctly. it does have that upper mid presence that marshalls have, and the tone knob sounds like a "presence" control to me, more than a standard "tone" knob.

i keep going back and forth betwen the rock/rawk modes. i think i like RAWK better, but then again i AM an 80s guy, thru and thru.

there are quite a few pedals that attempt to get this sound, and i haven't tried them all -- but i have tried a lot of them. and the DLS has totally impressed me. it's not a one trick pony either -- but i tend to like it set fairly low gain, with the gain knob at noon.

i will be gigging it HARD for a few weeks, will be offline while i am on the road. got some more v-picks in the mail today (thanks vinni!) and will be REALLY testing the DLS hard.......full gig reports when i get back!

[theinteriorleag]

I'm sad that I'm not having luck with octave fuzzes agreeing with the DLS. It hated the Ottava Magus and was a bit dull with the Octron. Still, I do love this pedal! it is absolutely brilliant behind the Picoso.

[Purple]

I'm sad that I'm not having luck with octave fuzzes agreeing with the DLS. It hated the Ottava Magus and was a bit dull with the Octron. Still, I do love this pedal! it is absolutely brilliant behind the Picoso.

Hmmm!

You are running the Magus before the DLS? Are there any buffered pedals in the chain between the Magus and the DLS (not that it should really matter). This seems odd as we did test the DLS with a Magus in front of it.

[Soundhound]

No, honest. I was just walking past my computer, and tripped over the edge of the carpet, i grabbed the keyboard to keep myself upright and not spill my coffee, and my hands and elbows by total accident hit the keys that found the Catalinbread site, chose the DLS that I was amazed to see was available, entered address and credit card information, chose shipping, and hit 'purchase'. I mean, what are the odds of that happening? A million to one, right? :D

<<Sure.......>>


<<
I just bought a second one, for my smaller, grab n go board. I didn't mean to. It just happened.>>

[catalinbread]

I'm sad that I'm not having luck with octave fuzzes agreeing with the DLS. It hated the Ottava Magus and was a bit dull with the Octron. Still, I do love this pedal! it is absolutely brilliant behind the Picoso.


Hated? :huh

[ianb]

<<
I just bought a second one, for my smaller, grab n go board. I didn't mean to. It just happened.>>[/QUOTE]

<<Sure.......>>


[QUOTE=Soundhound;6006313]No, honest. I was just walking past my computer, and tripped over the edge of the carpet, i grabbed the keyboard to keep myself upright and not spill my coffee, and my hands and elbows by total accident hit the keys that found the Catalinbread site, chose the DLS that I was amazed to see was available, entered address and credit card information, chose shipping, and hit 'purchase'. I mean, what are the odds of that happening? A million to one, right? :D


And by pure coincidence hit the right custom color too, huh?

A billion to one.........

It just might happen to me too pretty soon....

[mikey_s]

Hey folks, any idea when will I be able to purchase a pedal from your website ? They're all out of stock :(

Thanks,
Mike

[Jimitime]

Hey folks, any idea when will I be able to purchase a pedal from your website ? They're all out of stock :(

Thanks,
Mike


Fulltone Catalyst is a much better OD, Distortion, and Fuzz, you're in luck.

[Agreed]

Please tell me you have actually used the DLS?

[Jimitime]

Please tell me you have actually used the DLS?


Yes I have, it's very good.

[Agreed]

In that case you're entirely justified in whatever opinion you've got about it, I'm sorry to hear it didn't do the trick for you but experimentation is part of the fun, too.

[catalinbread]

Fulltone Catalyst is a much better OD, Distortion, and Fuzz, you're in luck.


LMAO. I have an OCD here too.

[utterhack]

Fulltone Catalyst is a much better OD, Distortion, and Fuzz, you're in luck.

Also Maxon PH-350 is a much better phaser.

:mob

[Brad J]

Fulltone Catalyst is a much better OD, Distortion, and Fuzz, you're in luck.

:rolleyes:

[Ginglymus]

Fulltone Catalyst is a much better OD, Distortion, and Fuzz, you're in luck.


Please tell me you have actually used the DLS?Yes I have, it's very good.

LMAO. I have an OCD here too.


Well, at least you guys are checking out each other's products!

:munch

[Brad J]

Well, at least you guys are checking out each other's products!

:munch

:rotflmao

[catalinbread]

Well, at least you guys are checking out each other's products!

:munch


I have a Fulltone TTE and a 69 as well. I enjoy the TTE quite a bit. :cool:

[catalinbread]

I have one too, and like it a lot. It sits in a beautiful walnut burl box made by Bob Burt.

It doesn't need to be hyped. Maybe his new pedal does...


That sounds sharp! Pics?

[Sikor]

I have got my DLS more than a week ago, but it was just before my holidays, so I didn't get to play it until yesterday :(
But finally I did and wow, this pedal is great :AOK
It's everything You guys say, quite rare experience ;)

I put it on my board and I am sure it will stay there for a looong time, if not forever :)

I hope I'll find time today to play it again. I am eager to hit it with Screwdriver and Silver Kiss mkII. Any suggestions regarding settings? I am a poor stacker :(

[Ginglymus]

I have one too, and put it in a walnut burl box Bob Burt built for it.

Maybe his new pedal needs all the hype we're seeing.

That sounds sharp! Pics?

The box, without the TTE.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh9/xxooliver/EchoUnit004.jpg

[catalinbread]

i have one too, and put it in a walnut burl box bob burt built for it.

Maybe his new pedal needs all the hype we're seeing.



The box, without the tte.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh9/xxooliver/echounit004.jpg

:aok ACK! won't do the thumbs up! Nice cabinet!

[Stressfest]

Fulltone Catalyst is a much better OD, Distortion, and Fuzz, you're in luck.

Ah, i love it when the Circus somes to town. :huh

[mikey_s]

I'm serious folks, is there any other dealer which holds the DLS?
BTW, Fulltone does have quite a few quality products IMHO :)
:cool:

[catalinbread]

I'm serious folks, is there any other dealer which holds the DLS?
BTW, Fulltone does have quite a few quality products IMHO :)
:cool:

You have a PM!

[Last Nerve]

www.tonefactor.com
At least they had some yesterday.

[theinteriorleag]

Hmmm!

You are running the Magus before the DLS? Are there any buffered pedals in the chain between the Magus and the DLS (not that it should really matter). This seems odd as we did test the DLS with a Magus in front of it.

I don't keep my pedals hooked together...haven't figured out what all I want and what order yet. Anyway, my chain was just the ottava and the dls, just the octron and the dls, and just the picoso and the dls. I did try them all chained together as well. For some reason the ottava just didn't have the exciting punchiness it has alone; the dls sorta muted it. I've got to play around with that combo more to see if I can make it work, since I'm trying to decide which octave fuzz to put on the board, and so far the ottava i like better than the octron.

I do love the ottava and dls, just didn't do it for me together so far.

[tonewave]

ok just got mine a few days ago
instant classic I say
definitely liking the rawk side a bit more, more mids to set the feedback off

this is the first pedal of this kind that really nails the low end, not to little, not too flubby
also loving the dynamics of it
can't wait to try stacking it HBOD, or goosing it with lil' china cot

I think that maybe that the 'secret' the DLS is that not only do they offer different clipping modes (which every one and their dog is doing), its that they also fine tune them to reveal each modes best side. Both Rawk and Rock are considered tones that have a balanced feel about them, the Rawk has just the right amount of mids and the Rock has just the right amount of lowend.

Classic!

[Bobby D]

I hope I'll find time today to play it again. I am eager to hit it with Screwdriver and Silver Kiss mkII. Any suggestions regarding settings? I am a poor stacker :(

for stacking, i prefer to set the dirt pedals upstream to lower VOLUME and GAIN settings that i normally would.....and try to achieve some sort of "unity gain" among the pedals. experiment with them and see:stir

[alnico2]

Shipping notice was in my email box this morning. Maybe it will arrive tomorrow since I'm in Oregon.

[TREV FLINT]

The Gas finally got to me. After weeks of telling myself " No, you don't need another pedal!" I caved.

Turned my computer on this morning and went straight to Ebay. Typed in Dirty Little Secret, and that sweet orange pedal just stared at me.:eek: We stared at each other for about 5 minutes before I pulled the trigger.

Yaaa--hoooo!


I am stoked!

[Jonster]

OK, (I think for the 3rd or 4th time) has ANYBODY compared this to the BOR???

I have a BOR I run into a Marshall BB clean, and probably like many BOR owners who have waded through this thread, I am wondering if it is just another variation of that theme,...... if the bass response is flatter....etc.?

I find it almost shocking that nobody has a-b'd these two, as they seem like they would be THE head-head with one another.:munch

[Bobby D]

OK, (I think for the 3rd or 4th time) has ANYBODY compared this to the BOR???

I have a BOR I run into a Marshall BB clean, and probably like many BOR owners who have waded through this thread, I am wondering if it is just another variation of that theme,...... if the bass response is flatter....etc.?

I find it almost shocking that nobody has a-b'd these two, as they seem like they would be THE head-head with one another.:munch

crxshdummy on HCFX did a comparison demo between the distortron and the DLS, and it seemed to my ears that DLS was better sounding with single coils, and the Distortron sounded nicer with humbuckers.

i had a BOR, and i like the DLS a lot better......

[Garygtr]

Shipping notice was in my email box this morning. Maybe it will arrive tomorrow since I'm in Oregon.

Shipping notice? Damn! This dashes my dreams of coming home to find my DLS in my mailbox. It was the only thing keeping me going at work today.

Guess I have to go home now...I have nothing else to offer my employer today :facepalm

[jezzbo]

My orange DLS arrived! :banana
Could only test it through my Super Champ XD with a tele.
It sounds nice but I still need to compare it more with my other dirt pedals to see what I like best. (comparing following drive pedals: Barber LTD, Barber direct Drive, Dano transparant OD, dano Cool cat drive)
One big plus over the Barber pedals, the DSL is smaller.
I'll keep you posted.

[Bobby D]

yes! another mopar orange DLS has hit the streets :cool:

[catalinbread]

crxshdummy on HCFX did a comparison demo between the distortron and the DLS, and it seemed to my ears that DLS was better sounding with single coils, and the Distortron sounded nicer with humbuckers.

i had a BOR, and i like the DLS a lot better......

I dunno, we have a lot of different types of humbuckers in The Bunker here I think the results of Crxsh's demos were an illustration of the limitations of the buckers in his LP Studio. I appreciate Nick's work on that though for sure.

[Bobby D]

I dunno, we have a lot of different types of humbuckers in The Bunker here I think the results of Crxsh's demos were an illustration of the limitations of the buckers in his LP Studio. I appreciate Nick's work on that though for sure.

yeah -- your comments made him pull all the electronics out of his les paul and put some new pickups in it :stir

all i know is that my DLS sounds really really good with my strat, and it sure sounded good with howard's strat too!

and i will be signing off for a couple weeks.....if you wanna hear the DLS live, just go to sloppyjoes.com, from 10 pm - 2 am EST, monday through sunday this upcoming week.

they stream the bands live from the club...it's the big songwriters festival in key west this week, so there's gonna be a BUNCH of musicians in town.:)

so tune in one night......and give it a listen. hopefully i will be in the mix enough so that you can hear it. i will be using the DLS as my primary sound, and stacking my other dirt into it.

it seems to like my fromel GO! pedal quite a lot, as well as the mad professor fire red fuzz.

[catalinbread]

yeah -- your comments made him pull all the electronics out of his les paul and put some new pickups in it :stir

all i know is that my DLS sounds really really good with my strat, and it sure sounded good with howard's strat too!

and i will be signing off for a couple weeks.....if you wanna hear the DLS live, just go to sloppyjoes.com, from 10 pm - 2 am EST, monday through sunday this upcoming week.

they stream the bands live from the club...it's the big songwriters festival in key west this week, so there's gonna be a BUNCH of musicians in town.:)

so tune in one night......and give it a listen. hopefully i will be in the mix enough so that you can hear it. i will be using the DLS as my primary sound, and stacking my other dirt into it.

it seems to like my fromel GO! pedal quite a lot, as well as the mad professor fire red fuzz.

Break a leg Bobby!

[David-R]

Shipping notice was in my email box this morning. Maybe it will arrive tomorrow since I'm in Oregon.

Me too. I'm in Florida so I don't think it will arrive until Monday or Tuesday.

[Jim S]

Break a leg Bobby!

Jeez, I already did that 4-5 weeks ago. :jo

But I'm still making 11s. :)

[catalinbread]

Jeez, I already did that 4-5 weeks ago. :jo

But I'm still making 11s. :)


Hey our intense buddy! You should have something in yr mailbox any time now. :BluesBros

[rcl]

Ordered a tighty-whitey DLS yesterday. I dig white pedals (lutherdrive, OCD, etc). That said, that orange has me thinking. I really like the color of the fulltone catalyst. I had a bike that color when I was a kid, some...eons ago.

[Jim S]

Hey our intense buddy! You should have something in yr mailbox any time now. :BluesBros

Yep, I got that email a day or two ago.
However, we got this coming tonight, the other 'white':


:banana :banana :banana



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[erksin]

I have to say I do not miss those April/May Sierra Nevada storms.

[Jim S]

I have to say I do not miss those April/May Sierra Nevada storms.

I have to say that with a post like that, I'm returning my DLS without even opening it.

:boxer





;)

[erksin]

What can I say? I likes my seasons to have seasons - not just winter and mud.

[kenoflife]

got one coming tomorrow, white...

just when I thought I'd write a post about the end of GAS!

[jhfire]

It never ends...I also ordered one. The demos are great. I want some of that early Marshall tone without the Marshall weight.

[kenoflife]

anyone replace a zendrive with one?



(I know they're different tones)

[utterhack]

anyone replace a zendrive with one?



(I know they're different tones)

I'm not sure what we would learn if anyone had. It would have to be for such specific reasons as to be effectively random. I know you acknowledged this, but hey're really different tools.

Kinda like replacing a hot-rodded blackface fender (with added high and low filtering) with a JMP Marshall...

[alnico2]

Was hoping to find the DLS at the PO Box today. Mail always takes an extra day in the rural areas. No initial report here till Monday. I can compare with my Zen once the DLS arrives.

[kenoflife]

I'll be doing the same if it arrives tomorrow - and gig with them both tomorrow night.

btw is Roseburg considered more 'rural' than Ashland?

[alnico2]

Pick up my mail in Dillard - mail a letter across town in Roseburg and it has to go to Eugene then back to Roseburg. Hopefully, Ashland is better!

[kenoflife]

I think its not quite like that! :crazy

[coldfingaz]

Played my DLS out last night driven by an Esquire into a Winfield Cyclone and Celestion Blue 112. Sounded fabulous. Got many nice comments on my tone afterwords too. I was playing in Rock mode. I'm going to try stacking it probably down the road, but with such a good pedal, amp, speaker & guitar, there's maybe not much point in going for more than what this can do on it's own. Very impressive.

[utterhack]

I understand -
but the reason I use the ZD2 is its a great player in the chain w/ my other pedals (see sig) - not because I'm after the 'Dumble' tone - I use it as a great overdrive LEAD pedal thats touch responsive and certainly has its characteristic smoothness - but I often use a fuzz
or comp on top of it and then it just is my tone, really.

I get that the DLS is more of a 'Marshal' tone - but it sounds like its also a great touch responsive chain pedal -
I'm going to try it out to see if it might replace the ZD2 - especially with the tele-
and so curious if anyone else has done that experiment....

I tried the Screwdriver up against the ZD2 - and certainly they sound different and the ZD 'smoother' on its own-
but what really kept me with the ZD was the higher order harmonics that the SD just didn't have as a lead pedal.
That's what I'll be listening for in the DLS...

Gotcha. I've had both the ZD and the ZD2, and if you dig what the ZD/ZD2 gives you as a lead pedal you won't find that in the DLS.

In my still relatively limited experience, the DLS is almost embarrassingly eager to play with other pedals but definitely not a neutral palette. The distinctive Marshall "bark" is always there.

With a strat and a fuzzface in front, it's pretty spectacular. With a les paul and a rangemaster... rock'n'roll heaven. But it's more cake than icing, if you get my drift. If you're looking for a modern lead tone without stacking, I can't see the DLS displacing the ZD2. Now running the ZD2 in front of the DLS...

[Webfoot]

Would a timmy stack with a DLS... and between to the two... get a good singing lead sound?

[coldfingaz]

Would a timmy stack with a DLS... and between to the two... get a good singing lead sound?


Yeah, the Timmy works well even though I haven't experimented enough with them. I'm thinking Screw Driver in between... should have mine soon.

[Thazy]

My favorite stack is the Barber LTD SR into the DLS.

[jb1911]

Would a timmy stack with a DLS... and between to the two... get a good singing lead sound?

Timmy > DLS is the greatest stack I've ever tried, and I've tried a ton. Singing leads, screaming leads, they're all there in spades with loads of sustain.

[foll]

Barge Concepts BB-1 -> DLS.

I never tried BB-1 with dirty amps and was always complaining about the volume jump between two fuzzes. Now I get it and with DLS's dirt on top of the fuzz it's perfect.

[TheJudge]

WHAT A FIASCO!!!

I still don't have the purple DLS I won on Ebay on April 17! Per my previous post, they sent me the wrong one (Silver) and promised to get their error taken care of quickly.

UPSP says it was delivered, but I have no idea if they sent it out with the correct address or if damn USPS lost it!!!

Catalinbread...please respond ASAP and let's get this resolved once and for all. Thanks.

[Agreed]

If USPS messed up, it's not really Catalinbread's fault, is it? I mean, all you can reasonably expect them to do is file and follow through with a claim. And it seems a little odd to me to pursue this so publicly, wouldn't an email or some other private contact be better? Unless they really did send it out to the wrong address, as I said it's not their fault, and by posting this - as you say, without having any idea of the truth of the matter - you seem to be trying to make them look worse or shame them into compliance. If in fact they did send it to the wrong address, that's one thing, but you don't know that and frankly it seems very unlikely that they would do so; and if they sent it to the right address and USPS is responsible, then you're posting publicly and angrily about something that isn't really their fault (apart from sending you the wrong one on accident, which they did address by sending you the right one).

I understand why you're upset, but it's important not to post angry stuff when you know you might not be fairly considering everything because you're p.o.'d.

[Last Nerve]

I agree with Agreed.
You got the silver one, so you know they have the correct address.
Did you send the silver one back to them?
Did you verify they got it?
CBread (or any builder for that matter) doesn't control shipping times, and they're all the way in OR.

[jb1911]

I agree with the guy who agreed with agreed. Cbread is not out to screw anyone.

[erksin]

WHAT A FIASCO!!!

I still don't have the purple DLS I won on Ebay on April 17! Per my previous post, they sent me the wrong one (Silver) and promised to get their error taken care of quickly.

UPSP says it was delivered, but I have no idea if they sent it out with the correct address or if damn USPS lost it!!!

Catalinbread...please respond ASAP and let's get this resolved once and for all. Thanks.

Arthur -

I get that you're frustrated. Its frustrating and costly for us when we screw up. Not to mention we get called out publicly when we do, so you can see the motivation we have to do things right the first time.

Its a Saturday, not sure I'll be able to contact Nic to find out all the details of the transaction but I'll do my best.

I'm fairly certain that your purple DLS has already been mailed (again, I don't have intimate details of your particular situation). I'm also fairly certain that we shipped it to you without having the errant silver one back in the shop for exchange. Would you not agree that that was pretty trusting on our part? Give us some credit for trying to make you happy as we possibly could given the circumstances. Hopefully you'll consider this an adequate reply to your tersely worded PM - your email at C-Bread will be replied to by either Nic or myself when we have the info you've requested.

Mike

[jb1911]

WHAT A FIASCO!!!

I was supposed to mow the lawn today and I ended up playing with my DLS all day
instead! Damn you guys and your instant classic pedalz and all.


PS It's silver and I love it.

[ptdesign]

Mine got here today. 5 days after ebay purchase. I was suprised the box came in an envelope instead of a box in a box but it's a pedal and ther was no damage and it fit in the mail box so that's pretty cool.

The pedal itself came sealed in a air tight static free bag inside the box. Once again pretty cool. The pedal appeared to be silver pedal (I ordered white) but it was just the bag tint. No big deal I thought. If I get served the wrong food at a restaraunt
I just eat it and go on my way. My wife hates that.

Nice lexan overlay, board mount mini-toggle (don't want to step on that accidentally)

First impressions into HRDX head clean channel w/ various speakers;
In rock mode with low gain, it sounds alot like the KOT ( I smell a BB-1 influence here)
The EQ is full, lots of harmonic content. Good low end. Blooms nicely even at half gain.

In indeed takes other peds in the backside very well. My mini-boner sounds great into it without flattening the EQ too much. It takes the OCD well and delivers all the low end at the output while imparting a nice mid bump. Sweet.

Rawk review and more details later.

[TheJudge]

First of all, Mike, thanks for doing what you can to get this resolved. I appreciate you taking time to get this corrected.

In response to some of the other posts...

Free speech is one of the most protected Constitutional rights we as Americans have. It is public discourse, debate, and discussion that is valued and protected by our Constitution and our Supreme Court. If the community here would prefer its members to self-censor and only generate postings positive in nature or complimentary, than I will discontinue my association here. It is my understanding that this is a public forum where I am free to have an open discourse on things related to the TGP forums.

I think it is valuable to have a community that applauds companies and individuals when applauding is appropriate. I also think it is valuable to have an informed discussion when things don't go so well. Personally, I would like to know which businesses have a good reputation for service and those that do not. I like to know which businesses have good products and those that do not. I like to be an informed consumer.

If the majority here would prefer to have only positive postings, then the TGP rules should reflect that no negative postings are allowed, and I will remove myself and not participate in the censorship.

I have not defamed anyone. I have not said anything untrue or false. I have made no accusations. Without going into all the details behind my transaction with Catalinbread, I am simply a customer and member of TGP whose expectations were not met, and I hopeful that it will get resolved.

What's the issue here? Is it that the TGP community does not want to hear when deals go bad or when expectations are not met regarding vendors or other TGP members? If not, what is the issue?

[jb1911]

Your post was a bit over the top, that's what bothers people. They will make it right if you give them a chance. And by the way, concerning your love of free speech and all, you haven't been here long, have you?

[erksin]

I think the issue here is simple matter of professional respect.

Let's be honest here, Arthur - I think we've made good faith attempts at resolving our mistake in a very timely fashion. I guess you don't agree, and you're certainly within your rights not to.

In the interest of free speech and full discourse, let's let the membership decide the facts of this situation by giving them all the pertinent info. We'll use your version of events as PM'd to me this AM as a timeline - I'm totally fine with it.

I AM FRUSTRATED WITH YOUR COMPANY! PLEASE RESPOND
I understand you are small company, and I also understand that you have many websites where you participate in forums, and I also understand that you have a day job, separate and apart from your Catalinbread endeavor.

However, I am sending you this PM after sending you an email, as well as sending emails to your company via my Ebay account. I am extremely frustrated with the lack of performance on our contract for a Catalinbread DLS. I sent you my $ and I still don't have what I ordered from you.

Here are the details:

April 17 - I won an Ebay auction for a purple DLS and I paid promptly the same day.

April 25 - USPS delivered your shipment. However, you shipped out the wrong DLS; a silver one instead of a purple one.

April 25 - I posted on the TGP DLS thread and you responded requesting that I send you an email, which I did the same day. I never heard from you.

April 27 - I received a communication via my Ebay account stating that your company made an error and would correct it immediately.

April 28 - I received another communication from your company that the correct purple DLS was shipped.

May 1 - I sent your company a communication via my Ebay account that I had not received the purple DLS yet

May 1 - Your company sent me a communication via Ebay that USPS shows it as delivered. However, the tracking number you provided in the email was the WRONG TRACKING NUMBER. You sent my the USPS tracking number from the original, incorrect shipment of the silver DLS.

May 2 - I sent you an email and I also sent your company two emails from my Ebay account.

I have fulfilled my obligation under our contract for the purchase of a purple DLS. So far, you have not fulfilled your contractual obligation.

I am requesting your immediate attention to get this resolved.

Thanks.

Now - since I haven't been able to reach Nic today to substantiate any of your claims, I can only answer to some of them.

4/25 (a Saturday) you decided instead of contacting us directly to resolve the mix-up that posting in a TGP thread was the better option. Now the odds of us seeing that and contacting you about fixing the problem in a timely manner were pretty slim but we caught it and did so. We acted the next available business day. Your replacement pedal was shipped within 24 hours of us contacting you through our company - WITHOUT HAVING THE ORIGINAL PEDAL RETURNED TO US.

I want everybody who reads this to know that I personally appreciate it when people have enough balls to offer up negative or constructive criticism - it helps me do my job better, even though it may not taste very good going down. Nobody is perfect, especially us - and we try our best to do right by our customers when mistakes are made. If anybody here thinks we didn't in this case - PLEASE tell me how we could have done better, I'm all ears. Seriously - I truly do care and would value the input.

[catalinbread]

Seriously man. Please calm down. Nobody is talking about freedom of speech or the Constitution. We've shipped 400 DLS in the past 6 weeks. Yours was the only one we've switched up. I know for a fact it was absolutely MY fault for not specifying the color on the invoice before I handed it off to Stef for shipment. For this I'll apologize once again for messing up. Now I certainly understand you are frustrated because it happened to you. AND I've gone way out of the way to make it right. I sent you replacement purple DLS with it I included a SASE so that you can just drop the Silver one with your mailcarrier, according to USPS the replacement has been delivered to you. I've called the PO about the matter and I am waiting for info on the track.

In terms of customer service we're doing everything we can here, considering we can't go back in time and catch my mistake before it happened. Neither erksin nor I are asking you to keep anything quiet. Say what you want to, we've done everything we possibly can and I think it is apparent to anybody who'd read this.

I really hope you enjoy the pedal once you have a chance to play through it. For the third time I am sorry I made a mistake resulting in your frustration.

First of all, Mike, thanks for doing what you can to get this resolved. I appreciate you taking time to get this corrected.

In response to some of the other posts...

Free speech is one of the most protected Constitutional rights we as Americans have. It is public discourse, debate, and discussion that is valued and protected by our Constitution and our Supreme Court. If the community here would prefer its members to self-censor and only generate postings positive in nature or complimentary, than I will discontinue my association here. It is my understanding that this is a public forum where I am free to have an open discourse on things related to the TGP forums.

I think it is valuable to have a community that applauds companies and individuals when applauding is appropriate. I also think it is valuable to have an informed discussion when things don't go so well. Personally, I would like to know which businesses have a good reputation for service and those that do not. I like to know which businesses have good products and those that do not. I like to be an informed consumer.

If the majority here would prefer to have only positive postings, then the TGP rules should reflect that no negative postings are allowed, and I will remove myself and not participate in the censorship.

I have not defamed anyone. I have not said anything untrue or false. I have made no accusations. Without going into all the details behind my transaction with Catalinbread, I am simply a customer and member of TGP whose expectations were not met, and I hopeful that it will get resolved.

What's the issue here? Is it that the TGP community does not want to hear when deals go bad or when expectations are not met regarding vendors or other TGP members? If not, what is the issue?

[catalinbread]

Mine got here today. 5 days after ebay purchase. I was suprised the box came in an envelope instead of a box in a box but it's a pedal and ther was no damage and it fit in the mail box so that's pretty cool.

The pedal itself came sealed in a air tight static free bag inside the box. Once again pretty cool. The pedal appeared to be silver pedal (I ordered white) but it was just the bag tint. No big deal I thought. If I get served the wrong food at a restaraunt
I just eat it and go on my way. My wife hates that.

Nice lexan overlay, board mount mini-toggle (don't want to step on that accidentally)

First impressions into HRDX head clean channel w/ various speakers;
In rock mode with low gain, it sounds alot like the KOT ( I smell a BB-1 influence here)
The EQ is full, lots of harmonic content. Good low end. Blooms nicely even at half gain.

In indeed takes other peds in the backside very well. My mini-boner sounds great into it without flattening the EQ too much. It takes the OCD well and delivers all the low end at the output while imparting a nice mid bump. Sweet.

Rawk review and more details later.

The Tyvek envelope is cradle to cradle. We try not to cut down trees just to send things from here to there. :AOK

[coldfingaz]

I have not defamed anyone. I have not said anything untrue or false. I have made no accusations. Without going into all the details behind my transaction with Catalinbread, I am simply a customer and member of TGP whose expectations were not met, and I hopeful that it will get resolved.What's the issue here? Is it that the TGP community does not want to hear when deals go bad or when expectations are not met regarding vendors or other TGP members? If not, what is the issue?


Dude, you are being petty.

A vendor made a mistake, which they've admitted multiple times publicly after you unnecessarily dragged them out onto the carpet over it. And, they also tried to rectify that error immediately.

What do you want now, to hold them accountable for what appears to be an unfortunate shipping mishap that they're now also trying to straighten out? Unfortunately, crap happens and sometimes a little patience could go a long ways.

Citing your right to free speech and accusing the TGP community of being intolerant of people posting about deals gone bad shows me just how over the top your response to this unfortunate situation has been.

Just chill out, and maybe try working this out offline unless you're looking to draw even more criticisms of your kneejerk reaction.

[TheJudge]

Again, thank you for taking time to look into the matter. I don't think that what you are doing to resolve the matter is unreasonable. I appreciate your efforts to correct the situation, and I do agree with you that they are in good faith.

I think part of the problem is that the shipping number/tracking number I was given for the the second shipment of the correct pedal is the same tracking number as the original shipment of the incorrect pedal. So, naturally, it shows as delivered because I got the first one. There must be a different tracking number related to the second shipment. Maybe that's part of the problem.

Regarding the post about not being here long...what does length of time on TGP have to do with free speech. Is there a history here re free speech and TGP? I have been a member since about 2006 I believe. Help me understand.

Thanks.

[Charles#5]

I cannot understand how one can get so worked up about the effin' color of a pedal :facepalm. That 'll be just me I suppose...

[catalinbread]

Again, thank you for taking time to look into the matter. I don't think that what you are doing to resolve the matter is unreasonable. I appreciate your efforts to correct the situation, and I do agree with you that they are in good faith.

I think part of the problem is that the shipping number/tracking number I was given for the the second shipment of the correct pedal is the same tracking number as the original shipment of the incorrect pedal. So, naturally, it shows as delivered because I got the first one. There must be a different tracking number related to the second shipment. Maybe that's part of the problem.

Regarding the post about not being here long...what does length of time on TGP have to do with free speech. Is there a history here re free speech and TGP? I have been a member since about 2006 I believe. Help me understand.

Thanks.

Who gave you a second tracking #? Perhaps I did and forgot, I don't recall doing so.

http://trkcnfrm1.smi.usps.com/PTSInternetWeb/InterLabelInquiry.do?origTrackNum=0103855574967184 1749

Odd part about all of this is this tracking # says the shipment has been delivered. Now I am trying to figure out what all the fuss about freedom of speech is about?

If you'd please excuse me I am going to have an early dinner with my woman and my younger brother and try to enjoy the rest of my weekend.

[jb1911]

Again, thank you for taking time to look into the matter. I don't think that what you are doing to resolve the matter is unreasonable. I appreciate your efforts to correct the situation, and I do agree with you that they are in good faith.

I think part of the problem is that the shipping number/tracking number I was given for the the second shipment of the correct pedal is the same tracking number as the original shipment of the incorrect pedal. So, naturally, it shows as delivered because I got the first one. There must be a different tracking number related to the second shipment. Maybe that's part of the problem.

Regarding the post about not being here long...what does length of time on TGP have to do with free speech. Is there a history here re free speech and TGP? I have been a member since about 2006 I believe. Help me understand.

Thanks.

The people that run this forum have strict rules about what is posted and there is no such thing as free speech here. I'm not knocking it, it's their forum, but if you've been here 3 years you should have noticed by now. There is actually a policy against discussing deals gone bad FWIW.

[TheJudge]

Thanks for educating me. I will refrain from any further negative posts.

[Purple]

hey peeps i was running mah DLS at 18volts last night and just wanted to say, if you haven't tried pumping 18volts into it yet.......... do it! :banana

[Panacea]

hey peeps i was running mah DLS at 18volts last night and just wanted to say, if you haven't tried pumping 18volts into it yet.......... do it! :bananaAll this trouble started over Purple! :BEER I don't have an 18 volt supply, anyway you can run 2-9volts together?

[Purple]

All this trouble started over Purple! :BEER I don't have an 18 volt supply, anyway you can run 2-9volts together?

hahah... yeah, my fault! ;)

i'm not sure. i've read you can rig up two 9volt batteries in series but as far as a 9volt power supply, I dunno.

I just got a Dunlop 18volt wallwart to run mine. It gave it way more output and a more percussive attack. If I'm just jamming by myself though, I like running it with a battery... it's really smooth and creamy that way - good for late night "don't wake the neighbors" volumes.

[Panacea]

hahah... yeah, my fault! ;)

i'm not sure. i've read you can rig up two 9volt batteries in series but as far as a 9volt power supply, I dunno.

I just got a Dunlop 18volt wallwart to run mine. It gave it way more output and a more percussive attack. If I'm just jamming by myself though, I like running it with a battery... it's really smooth and creamy that way - good for late night "don't wake the neighbors" volumes.Cool. I'll look for an 18v adapter. :band

[Last Nerve]

CBread Boys-
This is a great pedal!
Really dynamic. Responds to pick-attack and volume knob.
Loves being goosed.
Takes a clean Fender tone and makes it a raging Marshall.
I like the tone all over the GAIN knob, too. Not a one-trick pony.
There is a real difference between the RAWK/ROCK toggle, too. And I'm digging both voices!

THANKS FOR THE HARD WORK! :)

[David-R]

Mine arrived today - orange. Bought it on eBay on a Sunday, it arrived at my home near West Palm Beach Saturday. Since the eBay auction specified to allow 2 weeks for delivery, my expectations were exceeded. Thanks for shipping it so quickly.

I've only had about an hour with it using a Strat and a Les Paul into a Rebel 20 with the gain set at about 10:00 and the master way down - what I call moderate bedroom volume - so I'll be brief. I've never owned a 70s or an 80s Marshall amp but this pedal sounds and feels like what I would expect if I plugged into a Marshall except I'm getting it at low volume. So far so good - I have a smile on my face and I've velcroed it to the board!

[jb1911]

hey peeps i was running mah DLS at 18volts last night and just wanted to say, if you haven't tried pumping 18volts into it yet.......... do it! :banana

I'm running mine at 12v with my PPII and it sounds pretty great that way too.

[Csapo]

Mine arrived today - orange. Bought it on eBay on a Sunday, it arrived at my home near West Palm Beach Saturday. Since the eBay auction specified to allow 2 weeks for delivery, my expectations were exceeded. Thanks for shipping it so quickly.

I've only had about an hour with it using a Strat and a Les Paul into a Rebel 20 with the gain set at about 10:00 and the master way down - what I call moderate bedroom volume - so I'll be brief. I've never owned a 70s or an 80s Marshall amp but this pedal sounds and feels like what I would expect if I plugged into a Marshall except I'm getting it at low volume. So far so good - I have a smile on my face and I've velcroed it to the board!

Pretty much the same ebay/shipping scenario here for my purple DLS. And pretty much the same "smile" scenario too. :phones

CBread Boys-
This is a great pedal!
Really dynamic. Responds to pick-attack and volume knob.
Loves being goosed.
Takes a clean Fender tone and makes it a raging Marshall.
I like the tone all over the GAIN knob, too. Not a one-trick pony.
There is a real difference between the RAWK/ROCK toggle, too. And I'm digging both voices!

THANKS FOR THE HARD WORK! :)

This sums it up. I just had a great hour with the DLS knobs and getting all kinds of great tones. WOW!!! :bow

Best gear investment of 2009 (so far...;) )

[justgus45]

I'm new to this forum, but not new to gear and musicians though, I did my time in the trenches from the late 70's, early 80's at a local music store. Compared to then we really do have it easy now.
From the reveiws and clips I have seen here, had to have a DLS, got a purple one off Ebay and it got here really quick, a lot less than the 2 weeks advertised, a great pedal, lots of potential. I am rebuilding as I have gone from a POD, to tube amps and pedals. a new begining.
Nic and Mike, from what I've read here, I would try one of your pedals just because of your customer service. You truely go out of your way to provide a high leval of customer satisfaction from your service as well as great products.
I'm looking forward to trying out some more great pedalsfrom Catalinbread

[loiking]

The Question is, what is free speach? What is freedom? How many times can a man turn his head and pretend that he just doesn't see?

[catalinbread]

The Question is, what is free speach? What is freedom? How many times can a man turn his head and pretend that he just doesn't see?


Wat? Melbourne pronounced Melburn not Melborn :argue

[Burgs]

If you missed my thread, here's a clip with of the DLS with a Varioboost in front of it. Or, a Varioboost with a DLS after it. Either way, I'm convinced. My apologies to those of you with severe GAS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZJtR2EhcXc

[foll]

With single coil guitars, I prefer running it at 12V too :dude

I'm running mine at 12v with my PPII and it sounds pretty great that way too.

[Primakurtz]

Outstanding video demo - thanks for the GAS fuel!

[kenoflife]

OK - my white DLS didn't show up yet - patience.....can still fantasize though -

Anyone stack one with a Honeybee before it, or a Zendrive2?

Love to let go of either the ZD2 and/or the Honeybee if this works out...
My pedals are an embarrasment of richness - love to pare down -
(don't think I'll 'ever' drop the BJF comp, Fuzz, or Klon)

[Last Nerve]

Zendrive INTO DLS (white version)!

KILLER, Ken...I'm sure you're like it, too.

[Jim S]

Bobby D,

I still disagree that it's dynamics match the OCD, however I do think the DLS could be my best purchase of 2009. Not necessarily the best piece of gear I've bought (the Toneczar Dove was pretty amazing), but my best purchase.
Which has more gain on tap, the Dirty Little Secret or the OCD v4 (current version)?

:knitting

[David-R]

I've only had about an hour with it using a Strat and a Les Paul into a Rebel 20 with the gain set at about 10:00 and the master way down - what I call moderate bedroom volume - so I'll be brief. I've never owned a 70s or an 80s Marshall amp but this pedal sounds and feels like what I would expect if I plugged into a Marshall except I'm getting it at low volume. So far so good - I have a smile on my face and I've velcroed it to the board!

I spent a little time Sunday afternoon in the "rock" mode - with the LP it did a nice AC/DC grind!

[alnico2]

Picked up the silver DLS today. Sounds great on its own - slammed the DLS with a BB pre for a few mintues with good results. Will try the Timmy and Zen later today.

[H_V_C]

Which has more gain on tap, the Dirty Little Secret or the OCD v4 (current version)?

:knitting

The OCD has way more gain.

BTW, I've already sold my "best purchase" of 09' . I am SOOO Sick!!

It's still a great pedal though.

[Jim S]

It's taken me a while but it always does with music gear. I'm slow that way.

I'm digging the DLS. Darn good 70s 80s Marshall tone, plays well with other pedals, tone control is pretty effective at extremes too, reacts very differently with guitars and pups and does not homogenize everything.

Overall :AOK

[dtfan4ever]

The wait is killing me! I ordered mine 2 weeks ago (a white one) and I'm hoping it will arrive any day now. I really wish I had the customs form number so I could track it.

[dtfan4ever]

Zendrive INTO DLS (white version)!

KILLER, Ken...I'm sure you're like it, too.

I plan on doing this as soon as mine arrives! Looks like we have the same combination happening. I also ordered a white DLS.

[catalinbread]

The wait is killing me! I ordered mine 2 weeks ago (a white one) and I'm hoping it will arrive any day now. I really wish I had the customs form number so I could track it.


Stefanie and I are working on keeping the customs forms organized. Domestic stuff is really easy cause it is all online. For international we have a box of 2 foot long receipts and have to triangulate one by one. Poor excuse for a poor system we have set up for international tracking. We're getting them out the door on time but we simply weren't prepared for the international demand in terms of tracking.

[In Tune]

One PURPLE DLS should make its debute appearance today. Scott over at Harbormusic.net hooked me up...not sure if he has more, but if your jonesin for one, its worth a try, hes a good man.:drink

[dtfan4ever]

Stefanie and I are working on keeping the customs forms organized. Domestic stuff is really easy cause it is all online. For international we have a box of 2 foot long receipts and have to triangulate one by one. Poor excuse for a poor system we have set up for international tracking. We're getting them out the door on time but we simply weren't prepared for the international demand in terms of tracking.

Thank you. I know y'all are busy and stuff, and I have no doubt that it will arrive at my doorstep any day now. The excitement is killing me though. It's like waiting for the release date of one's favorite artist's new record back before the days of sharing music over the internet.

[catalinbread]

Thank you. I know y'all are busy and stuff, and I have no doubt that it will arrive at my doorstep any day now. The excitement is killing me though. It's like waiting for the release date of one's favorite artist's new record back before the days of sharing music over the internet.

Wow, this is flattering. I hope you love it!

[fajy6]

After 2 unanswered e-mails and a PM, this thread seems like the only place to get in touch with anyone from catalinbread.com so I'd like bring attention to an order put in last week that has not been received nor has any shipping info been provided. Please see your e-mails from a similar name as my user name and you can respond to them. One was sent on 5/1, the other sent on 5/5.

thanks

[erksin]

After 2 unanswered e-mails and a PM, this thread seems like the only place to get in touch with anyone from catalinbread.com so I'd like bring attention to an order put in last week that has not been received nor has any shipping info been provided. Please see your e-mails from a similar name as my user name and you can respond to them. One was sent on 5/1, the other sent on 5/5.

thanks

Actually, if you'd have bothered to send an email to the address in my sig you'd have had your reply by now. You PM'd me this AM - I was working at my other job and obviously couldn't reply to you as quickly as you may have liked. Sorry about that.

In the eBay listings and on our website it clearly states to allow up to two weeks for your pedal to ship. I don't know your name, but if you'd like to contact me through our site I'll be glad to find out for you.

[fajy6]

Actually, if you'd have bothered to send an email to the address in my sig you'd have had your reply by now. You PM'd me this AM - I was working at my other job and obviously couldn't reply to you as quickly as you may have liked. Sorry about that.

In the eBay listings and on our website it clearly states to allow up to two weeks for your pedal to ship. I don't know your name, but if you'd like to contact me through our site I'll be glad to find out for you.


Thanks, I was not aware these were being sold on e-bay, as i orderd mine directly from your site. I did not notice anything on the website saying to allow 2 weeks for delivery. I e-mailed the address associated with paypal last week, then noticed the e-mail in your signature and e-mailed that address on 5/5. I then PM'd you today, and used the thread as a last resort, which worked.

I will send another e-mail via the website.

thanks again.

[orogeny]

it will likely get to you quicker than two weeks, just for the record. . . mine was around 8-10 days, i think. . . including weekends. i think they are pretty much beating that two week mark on the regular. i've convinced a couple of friends on this one, and no one has had to wait the full 14 days.

[catalinbread]

Thanks, I was not aware these were being sold on e-bay, as i orderd mine directly from your site. I did not notice anything on the website saying to allow 2 weeks for delivery. I e-mailed the address associated with paypal last week, then noticed the e-mail in your signature and e-mailed that address on 5/5. I then PM'd you today, and used the thread as a last resort, which worked.

I will send another e-mail via the website.

thanks again.


Good thing it worked, cause I don't want you to have to wait any longer. I will gladly refund you since you didn't notice the two week part. There are plenty of places you can get a DLS next day.
:AOK

[utterhack]

I did not notice anything on the website saying to allow 2 weeks for delivery.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7338/picture2oaf.png

Not trying to be sassy and I can see how you might miss it - just want to point out that it's there for posterity.

[nnick]

Everyone is put off by wait times but I ordered mine from Big City Music's Ebay store on Tuesday and received the pedal today. If you don't mind silver, my personal favorite, they have them in stock.

[Canon]

we are an impatient group here.
I did BIN on Ebay on 4-19, recieved it in a week. The pedal did not work properly, and I informed Nic, who replaced that one, in about a week.
No questions were asked, he just wanted to make it right, and he did it within a quick timeline. Top notch product and service there, I sure didn't experience any long wait/turnaround time.
Great little pedal,thru my combo, very smooth and amplike. Sets up as a great base pedal for the Marshall sound. Like it better than the OCD I had for this type of application. OCD is a great pedal though too, esp thru a Marshall

[astigtigas]

check tonefactor.com they have some in stock..

[catalinbread]

check tonefactor.com they have some in stock..
:AOK

Everyone is put off by wait times but I ordered mine from Big City Music's Ebay store on Tuesday and received the pedal today. If you don't mind silver, my personal favorite, they have them in stock.
:AOK

I just posted a little bit about this on my blog:
http://www.catalinbread.com/odds/bunker.html

[In Tune]

Infinityguitars.com has a PURPLE DLS !!!!!......Randy sent me an email today(Thurs)...Good Luck!

[dtfan4ever]

I just posted a little bit about this on my blog:
http://www.catalinbread.com/odds/bunker.html


I just read that. Thanks for the explanation, I now understand the situation you guys have. Still, the wait is tough!

[Brad J]

Could be worse guys, you could be on a 2 year wait list!

[dtfan4ever]

Could be worse guys, you could be on a 2 year wait list!

I'm not at all complaining about the wait, I'm just voicing my excitement for the DLS. Sorry if anyone has taken my posts as complaints - that was not at all intended.

Right now, I'm like a kid sitting in front of a Christmas tree staring down the presents and waiting impatiently for Christmas morning. What makes this situation all the more intense for me is that I don't have a tracking number to stare at. All I know is that at some point in the not so distant future, I will be receiving a pacakge from the good people over at C-bread that contains things that will give me sonic bliss. :crazy

With that said, I'm on the KOT waiting list and I'm trying not to think about that. And to top it off, my wife told me this morning that I'm on a 9 month wait list as well :D so with that news, I'm going to have to get my GAS under control!:thud

[rcl]

Congrats on the last waiting list!

[GSVBagpuss]

Just a little note to support the Catalinbread boys - I recently contacted them about an order I'd made and they were nothing but helpful, fast to reply and generally very good sports. I'm sure they've just been swamped with attention for their pedals recently and it's to be expected that they can't wind up production like Boss could, and who would want them to?

Purple DLS is now winging its way across the pond, its the pedal that completes my board! (As long as it defeats the OCD ;) )

[Bluesrocker99]

Just a little note to support the Catalinbread boys - I recently contacted them about an order I'd made and they were nothing but helpful, fast to reply and generally very good sports. I'm sure they've just been swamped with attention for their pedals recently and it's to be expected that they can't wind up production like Boss could, and who would want them to?



Purple DLS is now winging its way across the pond, its the pedal that completes my board! (As long as it defeats the OCD ;) )

Agreed, I too have contacted Catalinbread a couple of times and they've always replied promptly and answered my queries.
I ordered a purple DLS on 19 April, I got it today, 19 days to UK including getting through Customs. I'm happy with that.

I've just spent an hour with it, up against an OCD v3, a Purple Plexi and a Kanji.
Initial impressions are that its more open and a bit less compressed on the Rock setting than the OCD, the Rawk setting brings it closer to the PP, and it sounds way more natural than the kanji. But that's just a few first impressions, I really need to gig it. Most pedals change character a bit when they are in front of a cranked amp.

[catalinbread]

Agreed, I too have contacted Catalinbread a couple of times and they've always replied promptly and answered my queries.
I ordered a purple DLS on 19 April, I got it today, 19 days to UK including getting through Customs. I'm happy with that.

I've just spent an hour with it, up against an OCD v3, a Purple Plexi and a Kanji.
Initial impressions are that its more open and a bit less compressed on the Rock setting than the OCD, the Rawk setting brings it closer to the PP, and it sounds way more natural than the kanji. But that's just a few first impressions, I really need to gig it. Most pedals change character a bit when they are in front of a cranked amp.


Cool! I am glad it arrived.

[Tonestack]

...that are a little annoying. But first let me say that this pedal sounds amazing!

The tone knob is extremely sensitive. To have similar tone balance with the DLS on or off, I need to have the tone set at about the 8:30 position. Nudged either way just a hair and it's way too toppy, or not nearly enough detail. Very touchy!

The other thing is that with the gain knob at 12:00 (that's where I like it :), the output control has to be at full to be even close to the same volume into my amp, as with the pedal off, and even then it's not quite there.

Don't get me wrong, this is a great sounding pedal, with a wide range of sounds. But I like to set it and forget it. I'm tempted to take a hot glue gun and put a dab on the corner of the tone knob so it doesn't get brushed and totally change my tone when least expected.

For a little background, I use a Michael Kelly Patriot Custom -> TS-9 -> DLS -> Vox Night Train.

Can a guy like me with some soldering skills change a couple of parts to fix these two problems?

Great thread!
Scott.

[catalinbread]

...that are a little annoying. But first let me say that this pedal sounds amazing!

The tone knob is extremely sensitive. To have similar tone balance with the DLS on or off, I need to have the tone set at about the 8:30 position. Nudged either way just a hair and it's way too toppy, or not nearly enough detail. Very touchy!

The other thing is that with the gain knob at 12:00 (that's where I like it :), the output control has to be at full to be even close to the same volume into my amp, as with the pedal off, and even then it's not quite there.

Don't get me wrong, this is a great sounding pedal, with a wide range of sounds. But I like to set it and forget it. I'm tempted to take a hot glue gun and put a dab on the corner of the tone knob so it doesn't get brushed and totally change my tone when least expected.

For a little background, I use a Michael Kelly Patriot Custom -> TS-9 -> DLS -> Vox Night Train.

Can a guy like me with some soldering skills change a couple of parts to fix these two problems?

Great thread!
Scott.

It should be much louder than unity with the gain at noon. What voltage are you running it at? Also I find the tone to not be touchy. Perhaps there is an issue with your unit? I will happily take a look at it for you.

[jb1911]

If I have my gain at noon my volume is around 9:00 for unity.

[Last Nerve]

+1 ^^

[Panacea]

If I have my gain at noon my volume is around 9:00 for unity.Just got through jammin' mine with the gain @ 2'oclock/Loudness(vol) @ 10'oclock. I run it a little hot....! :crazy

[Tonestack]

Oh that is strange then. I'm feeding it 9v with a Signal Flex power supply unit. Actually when I noticed this, my setup was like this:

Gtr -> Boss GT8 input (wah/fuzz) -> fx loop -> TS-9 -> DLS -> Night train input. I've never had a problem with output gain with any pedals in this setup, other than this DLS.

I will try guitar to DLS to Vox to see if it makes a difference.

I'm in Canada, so I don't know how much shipping will cost there and back.

Thanks everyone
Scott.

[Zero G]

How is it for pushing an amp's OD channel?

[jaxonmills]

How is it for pushing an amp's OD channel?

+1. I've also been wondering about this.

[johnny5]

I am waiting too...

[catalinbread]

How is it for pushing an amp's OD channel?


It will depend on the amp.

[Zero G]

It will depend on the amp.

How about a Peavey Classic 30 combo...

[jaxonmills]

I have a Mesa Lone Star Classic, using medium gain

[Bluesrocker99]

Somebody mentioned the tone control being touchy - I have to say I was mega impressed with the range on this, I like controls on pedals (or amps for that matter) that actually do something! usually they they go from clean to mush! This one is very responsive IMO

[David-R]

How about a Peavey Classic 30 combo...

I ran it in rawk mode with the gain cranked into the clean channel of my C30 at band practice last night. Juicy crunch with a lot cut. Plenty of low end. Really sounded good and felt good.

[swollen303]

I like controls on pedals (or amps for that matter) that actually do something! usually they they go from clean to mush! This one is very responsive IMO

Agree. The tone controls on mine are responsive, but I would hardly call it touchy.

[ptdesign]

No touchy. Anywhere near 1:00 sounds good to me. I seem to favor 1:00 for a lot of parameters. WTF?:bong

[dtfan4ever]

Congrats on the last waiting list!

Thank you. :BEER

[stonewolf]

Just received my purple DLS in the mail yesterday; that's just under the Cat's 2wk delivery goal. After 2 hrs of playing I gotta say this one's a keeper. Unlike a Silverkiss I tried then returned, the DLS will stay on my board for a long time. The SC left my ears ringing from too many high freq even at low volume. The DLS is well balanced and did not strain my hearing until played very loud (should wear earplugs anyway). I do not buy a lot of pedals but wanted something that would act as a treble boost or standalone when needed. Playing through a Maverick on the lead channel, I use the
DLS on a very low gain setting then boost the trebs. On the clean channel, it's great to have the option of a pushed sound, or going full bore in Rawk mode.
Tried stacking with a Throbak and NKT pedal and everything turned to mush to my ears.. don't like it. A few minor complaints are a gain pot that is stiff on the 1st 1/4 turn; and a knob with a dent on its rim, and the logo/decal is cloudy looking instead of a glossy appearance in photos we've seen. Otherwise a great, great pedal from Catalinbread.

:banana Cardboard box, static-free wrapper, fun for hours!:banana

[Tonestack]

Thanks for all the input about levels and tone. I did try just the pedal in front of my amp, and it still is behaving the same way.

CB, I'd like to send it to you to have a look at it, but I've got a couple of gigs coming up. This dirty little secret has quickly become the foundation tone of my rig and I don't think I can let it go for weeks.

It's still entirely usable, so maybe I'm just being picky. Maybe I can send you some pics or something with the serial number. I'm pretty handy with a multimeter and soldering iron!

Thanks!
Scott.

[erksin]

Thanks for all the input about levels and tone. I did try just the pedal in front of my amp, and it still is behaving the same way.

CB, I'd like to send it to you to have a look at it, but I've got a couple of gigs coming up. This dirty little secret has quickly become the foundation tone of my rig and I don't think I can let it go for weeks.

It's still entirely usable, so maybe I'm just being picky. Maybe I can send you some pics or something with the serial number. I'm pretty handy with a multimeter and soldering iron!

Thanks!
Scott.

Email me at the address in my sig and we'll get you sorted.

[Ken]

My new DLS just arrived and is waiting for me to get home from work...

[sodapopinski]

im expecting one, should be getting here by Friday :)

[rcl]

*TWIDDLE* Two weeks is tomorrow...

[Bobby D]

i just had a wonderful two weeks of gigs in 12 days with the DLS, and the main thing that really blew me away is that it made this one "problem" soundman i have to deal with actually TURN ME UP in the mix...AND he complimented my tone for the FIRST TIME in the years i have played that venue.

the pedal was worth the $159 just for THAT :rotflmao

got a lot of compliments on my sound the last couple weeks, words like "creamy" and "awesome" were thrown around.

i used backline amps ranging from BF Twin RI, Hot Rod Deluxe, and JC-120.

DLS made them all sound good, and stacked EXTREMELY well with my MP Little Green Wonder -- in fact, i think the DLS will like most flavors of tube screamers in front!

And, with the gain knob up to about 3 oclock, i could just use the DLS and go from rhythm to lead with a twist of the guitar volume knob.

still honeymooning, but i really feel the DLS has a permanent spot on my board :BluesBros

[catalinbread]

i just had a wonderful two weeks of gigs in 12 days with the DLS, and the main thing that really blew me away is that it made this one "problem" soundman i have to deal with actually TURN ME UP in the mix...AND he complimented my tone for the FIRST TIME in the years i have played that venue.

the pedal was worth the $159 just for THAT :rotflmao

got a lot of compliments on my sound the last couple weeks, words like "creamy" and "awesome" were thrown around.

i used backline amps ranging from BF Twin RI, Hot Rod Deluxe, and JC-120.

DLS made them all sound good, and stacked EXTREMELY well with my MP Little Green Wonder -- in fact, i think the DLS will like most flavors of tube screamers in front!

And, with the gain knob up to about 3 oclock, i could just use the DLS and go from rhythm to lead with a twist of the guitar volume knob.

still honeymooning, but i really feel the DLS has a permanent spot on my board :BluesBros

Yeah but forget all that live stuff. How does it sound in your den?

[soli528]

If something is listed as in stock on the CB site, is it in stock, as in ready to ship, or does the 2 week thing still apply? Thanks!

[Bobby D]

Yeah but forget all that live stuff. How does it sound in your den?

;););););)


it really opened up LIVE......and it's not the BE ALL AND END ALL DIRTBOX FROM HEAVEN.......it's just a damn good one, and only $159.


and it does have a marshall flavor, which is what i WISH i was playing thru every nite, instead of those damn hot rods, twin reissues, and JC-120s :p

[Ken]

;););););)
and it does have a marshall flavor, which is what i WISH i was playing thru every nite, instead of those damn hot rods, twin reissues, and JC-120s :p

They still use JC-120's? Wow...guess its hard to kill off transistors :p Talk about the 80's :BluesBros

[traynor_garnet]

Was just hitting mine with my newly arrived Analogman Beano boost! Wow! Only problem is that I cannot stop playing Sabbath riffs! :)

TG

[catalinbread]

If something is listed as in stock on the CB site, is it in stock, as in ready to ship, or does the 2 week thing still apply? Thanks!


2 Weeks still applies. EDIT: Though for the most part we've been routinely ahead of that schedule. This is because we are not a shipping facility as our dealers are, it takes us time to process individual orders. Our dealers will have you the pedal a couple minutes after you order it. It is freaky.

[Lt_Core]

I'm dying to try this pedal. I'm trying to sell a wah and a few others to get the cash. I already have the Silver Kiss Trinity version and I want to get a Barber Dirty Bomb. I think with the DLS and those other 2 pedals I'll be in overdrive pedal heaven :)

[Bobby D]

They still use JC-120's? Wow...guess its hard to kill off transistors :p Talk about the 80's :BluesBros


for backline rentals, there are ALWAYS gonna be JC-120s. plus, down here in south florida, we have a lot of island/reggae/kompa/soca music players, and they want a JC-120 and nothing else!

although the hotrod series amps and Twin reissues are pretty prevalent as well, along with a few peavey classic 30s here and there.

but the JC-120 is one of those bulletproof rental amps that most guitarists who are worth their salt are gonna be able to get a decent sound out of. i actually kinda LIKE them sometimes, depending on the gig :huh

[Garygtr]

but the JC-120 is one of those bulletproof rental amps that most guitarists who are worth their salt are gonna be able to get a decent sound out of. i actually kinda LIKE them sometimes, depending on the gig :huh

I think those amps are wonderful sounding, avoid the built-in distortion and use a good pedal (like the DLS) and you should be well equipped for a variety of gigs.

[Garygtr]

I have had my DLS for about a week now. I haven't been able to gig with it yet so I'll withhold final judgement until then, but initial impressions are excellent! I'm using an Esquire with a Don Mare Graf Airship I pickup into a Top Hat Club Deluxe 1x12 combo (2 6V6's, about 18 watts), usually set to "just breaking up" at gigs. The Mare pickup is very low output (5.7k), and has a sweet, airy tone without a lot of mids. The combination of all these factors reminds me of the tone I used to get from a '67 Tele plugged into a Marshall JMP combo-it has that complex, clangy thing, that "not what Leo had in mind, but sure sounds great" tone you get from a Tele into a Marshall. I'm gravitating toward the "Rock" mode, keeping the gain between 1 and 3 o'clock-there seems to be a lot of variation in this range, the gain seems to ramp up rather quickly after 1 o'clock. With the low output pickup on the Esquire, this is not a high gain tone, it is a nice sweet crunch that cleans up nicely when backing off the guitar volume. I'm boosting the DLS with a Barber LTD SR set more as a dirty boost (volume around 2 o'clock, gain around 11 o'clock), along with a Lovepedal 200lbs of Tone fuzz. Both sound terrific through the DLS, with the Barber adding a bit more gain and "oomph", and the 200lbs providing a smooth, sweet fuzz.
I'll offer up more after I gig with it, but I think Nick and crew have a winner here :AOK

[Ken]

Well...Here are my first thoughts after my first session with the DLS.

9 VDC is ok, but a bit mushy with my Amp (Heritage Colonial/ EL34's)

13 VDC is Very Good, at this voltage it get louder and Punchier and this voltage firms it up and gives it a bigger sound, and more of that Marshall tone comes out, but its still a bit mushy on the lower two strings.

I have a Cable on order that should be here Friday 9 (Tomorrow) that will allow me to run 18 VDC directly from my PPS 2 Plus into the DLS.

So far with my Gear, 9 VDC is not that impressive, at 13 VDC it really starts to open up and have some Fire.

Now lets see if 18 VDC can make me cry like a Baby! ;)

[rcl]

Got here yesterday-just beat the 2 week mark. I'll see how it likes the elmwood and orange Saturday night. So far, it's a nice fit into the matchless.

[TREV FLINT]

Are you all running your Tim/Timmy before or after your DLS?

just curious, cause they both seem like foundation pedals.

[Dumo]

Got my Orange DLS yesterday and got to briefly demo it this morning. Sounds pretty much exactly like the clips. Great pedal. I have a SK Trinity that I love as well. Nick, you should do an AE (big box) version with a footswitchable Rock/Rawk with Comp, Mid-Shift toggles and a full EQ. That would be the sickest pedal out there for sure. Thanks for the great work. :bowJoe

[Lt_Core]

Got my Orange DLS yesterday and got to briefly demo it this morning. Sounds pretty much exactly like the clips. Great pedal. I have a SK Trinity that I love as well. Nick, you should do an AE (big box) version with a footswitchable Rock/Rawk with Comp, Mid-Shift toggles and a full EQ. That would be the sickest pedal out there for sure. Thanks for the great work. :bowJoe

I also have a Silver Kiss Trinity. How well does that stack into the DLS? I have my SK Trinity to set for low-gain breakup with a bit of spank/sparkle in the EQ section. I'd love to hear how these two pedals work together. My guess would they work great together.

[Dumo]

I also have a Silver Kiss Trinity. How well does that stack into the DLS? I have my SK Trinity to set for low-gain breakup with a bit of spank/sparkle in the EQ section. I'd love to hear how these two pedals work together. My guess would they work great together.

You know, I only had about 15 minutes to play it this morning. I'll try it and get back to you. I would image they would work great together. I love the string definition and sparkle of the Trinity. When I crank the gain I always get a Who-Townshend vibe from it.

[Lt_Core]

You know, I only had about 15 minutes to play it this morning. I'll try it and get back to you. I would image they would work great together. I love the string definition and sparkle of the Trinity. When I crank the gain I always get a Who-Townshend vibe from it.

Cool! Looking forward to hearing back from you. The SK Trinity is slowly becoming a "leave on at all times" pedal for me. The EQ is very nice and the string definition like you mentioned. I usually leave the compression set to open, sometimes low. Very nice pedal and would hope that the DLS compliments it.

[playthecray]

I finally got my DLS today. A nice purple one from Harbor Music in CA. My first impressions of the pedal playing at moderate bedroom levels through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe are as follows: I started with a Strat and was not overly impressed with how the DLS sounded with single coil pups. It was difficult to dial in and several settings sounded muddy. I struggled to get the nice Marshall crunch that everyone is raving about. It sounded best with the 5th position pup selector engaged. My last tone knob has a blender pot and I am able to combine pups.

It was a different story with my Les Paul and humbuckers. I immediately got a very nice crunch from several different settings. The pedal stacked nicely with several different overdrives including a TIM, Zendrive, and Sunface NKT275. I find the pedal is more touch sensitive and cleans up better in rock mode. I will continue to experiment and give the Strat another try.

[Ken]

I finally got my DLS today. A nice purple one from Harbor Music in CA. My first impressions of the pedal playing at moderate bedroom levels through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe are as follows: I started with a Strat and was not overly impressed with how the DLS sounded with single coil pups. It was difficult to dial in and several settings sounded muddy. I struggled to get the nice Marshall crunch that everyone is raving about. It sounded best with the 5th postion pup selector engaged. My last tone knob has a blender pot and I am able to combine pups.

It was a different story with my Les Paul and humbuckers. I immediately got a very nice crunch from several different settings. The pedal stacked nicely with several different overdrives including a TIM, Zendrive, and Sunface NKT275. I find the pedal is more touch sensitive and cleans up better in rock mode. I will continue to experiment and give the Strat another try.

Try the DLS at 18 VDC with the Strat.

[Yek]

Yeah, try 18v, my strat sounds great with it.

[playthecray]

Thanks for the suggestion Ken. I will need to get a cable in order to try it at 18 VDC.

[Bobby D]

i have to get a fancier power supply so i can try 18v too....:drink

[sabby]

Try it at 18v and at volume/in a mix. To me, The DLS is just okay at bedroom levels -- nasally and thin-ish and all those things I don't like about Marshalls. Turn it up and it's creamy yet edgy, smooth yet crunchy, buttery yet cutting. Basically, at volume and with others playing, it's everything I like about Marshalls.


:RoCkIn

[In Tune]

I have a 18 volt power supply that came with my EH Holier Grail... thatd be fine right? Just checkin before I blow something up real good. What say you catlin men???????:dunno

[onestop]

I finally got my DLS today. A nice purple one from Harbor Music in CA. My first impressions of the pedal playing at moderate bedroom levels through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe are as follows: I started with a Strat and was not overly impressed with how the DLS sounded with single coil pups. It was difficult to dial in and several settings sounded muddy. I struggled to get the nice Marshall crunch that everyone is raving about. It sounded best with the 5th position pup selector engaged. My last tone knob has a blender pot and I am able to combine pups.

It was a different story with my Les Paul and humbuckers. I immediately got a very nice crunch from several different settings. The pedal stacked nicely with several different overdrives including a TIM, Zendrive, and Sunface NKT275. I find the pedal is more touch sensitive and cleans up better in rock mode. I will continue to experiment and give the Strat another try.

I felt the same exact way and I'm interested in experimenting with 18v and the Strat. I'll soon find out but anyone care to tell how 18v sounds with an LP?

[erksin]

I have a 18 volt power supply that came with my EH Holier Grail... thatd be fine right? Just checkin before I blow something up real good. What say you catlin men???????:dunno

As long as its regulated and has a center neg tip you should be fine.

[erksin]

How are you guys setting these things and getting mud with a single coil? I know one amp was a HRD, but I'm not familiar with that one's tone circuit. We voiced the DLS to have a really tight bass and its not boosted, so I'm at a bit of a loss to explain your experiences.

[playthecray]

I tried it again today with the Strat and it sounded much better. Still running at 9 volts. I switched between both modes and experimented with the tone and loudness between 11:00 - 1:00 and the gain from 10:00 - 2:00. All the amp settings remained the same so I can't explain why the pedal sounds so much better today. I didn't bother with my Les Paul because I was digging the Strat. I would still like to try it at 18 volts.

[utterhack]

I finally got my DLS today. A nice purple one from Harbor Music in CA. My first impressions of the pedal playing at moderate bedroom levels through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe are as follows: I started with a Strat and was not overly impressed with how the DLS sounded with single coil pups. It was difficult to dial in and several settings sounded muddy. I struggled to get the nice Marshall crunch that everyone is raving about. It sounded best with the 5th position pup selector engaged. My last tone knob has a blender pot and I am able to combine pups.

It was a different story with my Les Paul and humbuckers. I immediately got a very nice crunch from several different settings. The pedal stacked nicely with several different overdrives including a TIM, Zendrive, and Sunface NKT275. I find the pedal is more touch sensitive and cleans up better in rock mode. I will continue to experiment and give the Strat another try.

tbf hendrix doesn't really "crunch" either... but I've got some amazing and inspiring lead tones going strat>fuzz face>DLS

for crunch, I use humbuckers

[Bobby D]

i LOVE it with my strat, but i am using dimarzio HS-3, HS-2, and VV solo pro pickups, so they have a bit more balls than most standard single coils.

no mud here.....at ALL :D

[playthecray]

I use Dimarzio Area 58, 61, and Virtual heavy blues in my Strat. I am happy the pups. They are certainly hotter than the piece of junk stock pups.

[Purple]

I use stock pups in my CS '60 and it rules.

[playthecray]

I never liked the stock pups. There was very little output. As a reference, I have an American standard Strat that I purchased new in the mid 1990's.

[kenoflife]

easy enough to try it at 12v with a PP2+ - is 18v a big difference?

used it yesterday at a small gig . I really liked getting the DLC cooking on its own a little (10 loudness, noon gain/tone). Without having it
cooking it seemed a little thin at low volumes with the tele. No problem with 535/335.

Great for handling the fuzz at any volume. Interesting with the HBOD and
good pushed a little with the comp.

[catalinbread]

As long as its regulated and has a center neg tip you should be fine.


AND DC!!! :Devil

[Bluesrocker99]

Have just tried it at 12v and you can tell the difference from 9v; there's more clarity & headroom, at 18v should be even better? Anyone know where to get an adaptor to convert 9v to18v? I'm sure they are made. I'm not about to buy a whole new power supply just to get 18v.

[jb1911]

I never liked the stock pups. There was very little output. As a reference, I have an American standard Strat that I purchased new in the mid 1990's.

I have a '62 AVRI Strat with the stock pickups and I love it. I tried the CS50s and a set of Lollars and the stock pickups are back in.

[erksin]

Have just tried it at 12v and you can tell the difference from 9v; there's more clarity & headroom, at 18v should be even better? Anyone know where to get an adaptor to convert 9v to18v? I'm sure they are made. I'm not about to buy a whole new power supply just to get 18v.

You need an 18v supply - either a standalone wall wart or DC Brick or via a Y-cable combining two outputs from a PP2+.

[jb1911]

I use a DC Brick. It's pretty easy to compare 9v with 18v that way, you just pull one cable out and stick the other one in. There's a big difference. At 18v it's louder, you have to turn the volume down to get the same level. It's also less compressed and maybe there's a few more harmonic overtones. All I know is there's a big enough difference to make it worth trying. I'm staying at 18v.

[David-R]

Have just tried it at 12v and you can tell the difference from 9v; there's more clarity & headroom, at 18v should be even better? Anyone know where to get an adaptor to convert 9v to18v? I'm sure they are made. I'm not about to buy a whole new power supply just to get 18v.

Godlyke makes a Power Pump that converts 9 volts to 12, 18 or 24.

[Ken]

I'm staying at 18v.

Yep...Me too!

After Band Rehearsal today, 18 Vdc is the way.

I believe if enough players tried it at 18 Vdc, the vast majority would keep it there instead of at 9Vdc.

Maybe a redesign down the line, with a step up voltage inverter to 18 Vdc?

I can see the redesign clearly in my mind like it's already there now...Call it the DLS Power Plus ;) With an added Boost channel which will add more gain for solos, and Presto, a one stop Pedal and nothing else needed.

[BAN]

Godlyke makes a Power Pump that converts 9 volts to 12, 18 or 24.

I have one of those and find they work well enough for modulation effects but raise the noise floor dramatically with dirt pedals.

[BAN]

I believe if enough players tried it at 18 Vdc, the vast majority would keep it there instead of at 9Vdc.


I really think it depends on your application. I can totally see higher voltage being better when playing the DLS into an already hard-working amp at band/gig levels where you don't want a pedal to add any more sag and compression.

However, as a home player, I find the sag and compression at 9v to be the best fit. I've only tried it with 12v, but even that was a bit too strident at the volumes I play --- and it made stacked pedals sound harsher.

Nice to have the option to go higher, though ... and I agree with you about that added boost being a good idea!

[catalinbread]

Yep...Me too!

After Band Rehearsal today, 18 Vdc is the way.

I believe if enough players tried it at 18 Vdc, the vast majority would keep it there instead of at 9Vdc.

Maybe a redesign down the line, with a step up voltage inverter to 18 Vdc?

I can see the redesign clearly in my mind like it's already there now...Call it the DLS Power Plus ;) With an added Boost channel which will add more gain for solos, and Presto, a one stop Pedal and nothing else needed.

No redesign because this is true:

I really think it depends on your application. I can totally see higher voltage being better when playing the DLS into an already hard-working amp at band/gig levels where you don't want a pedal to add any more sag and compression.

However, as a home player, I find the sag and compression at 9v to be the best fit. I've only tried it with 12v, but even that was a bit too strident at the volumes I play --- and it made stacked pedals sound harsher.

Nice to have the option to go higher, though ... and I agree with you about that added boost being a good idea!

[Ken]

Why not a DLS with a Boost channel?

[David-R]

Why not a DLS with a Boost channel?

IMHO it's easier for those who want to use a boost to select whatever boost they want and put it before (or after) the DLS. If Catalinbread builds a boost in, some will say they don't like the boost, some will say they don't want the boost, etc.

[erksin]

Why not a DLS with a Boost channel?

We're coming out with a 'custom shop' model DLS with a 3-way Ge boost - should have pics and info in a few weeks or so.