New Catalinbread-Dirty Little Secret

[todd richman]

Anybody know anything about this yet? What does the "Rawk" and "Rock" toggle do?

http://www.catalinbread.com/DLS.html

[ibobunot]

Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=1lal8YoIq3g


... :huh

[erksin]

Rock = '60s/'70s
Rawk = '80s

[Last Nerve]

Get any time with this one yet, erk?

[erksin]

Get any time with this one yet, erk?

Nope! :o

[Charles#5]

I get a feeling... :dude When will these be available?

[CWFurst]

I don't even know what it sounds like but I want one!

[iggs]

i don't even know what it sounds like but i want one!

Fo' REALZ!!! GAS!!!

[stratman34]

For those about to RAWK, I salute you!

[catalinbread]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5DGtfs7b1g

[todd richman]

Nice demo. Pure Jimmy Page classic rock tones with the Les Paul. How about with a Tele or Esquire?

[catalinbread]

More to come!

Nice demo. Pure Jimmy Page classic rock tones with the Les Paul. How about with a Tele or Esquire?

[nibus]

Very cool - so it's a fuzzy/dirty boost?

[Occam]

Great dynamics. Hopefully I'll get enough of a tax return to get a toy or two this year.

[utterhack]

Um... Nic... I think you're on to something here :love:

[surfwb86]

Very nice I like it, but I have no money. Ahhhh

[Mesanixta]

Ok .... so there goes the 1 pedal a month purchase plan.

WHERE DO I GET ONE ?

[Purple]

lol herman

[Mesanixta]

Just a quick question, Is this a treble booster ? If not what "type" of circuit is it or is it a copy of something ...

John:BluesBros

[djinn1973]

Wow; gotta have it...
I must have watched that video nine times, I NEED it is there a mailing list?

[utterhack]

Just a quick question, Is this a treble booster ? If not what "type" of circuit is it or is it a copy of something ...

John:BluesBros

Treble booster into a clean blackface fender would probably sound a bit different.

[zerorez]

The DLS has got my attention! :dude

That is one hell of a great sounding pedal! :BEER

Kudos to the Catalinbread crew!

JK

[Mesanixta]

Treble booster into a clean blackface fender would probably sound a bit different.

Early marshalls were modded blackfaces weren't they? I might be wrong but it definitely sounds like a treble booster - or made to emulate a treble booster (reange Master) into a Marshall. Its just a question. Im still 100% buying this tone machine!!!

PAGE era anyone ?

[utterhack]

Early marshalls were modded blackfaces weren't they? I might be wrong but it definitely sounds like a treble booster - or made to emulate a treble booster (reange Master) into a Marshall. Its just a question. Im still 100% buying this tone machine!!!

PAGE era anyone ?

Modded Bassman. Different beast. But into a clean Marshall a Rangemaster still wouldn't crunch like that.

That said, for all I know there IS a Rangemaster going INTO a couple more gain stages in there, which would take care of that clean amp issue. Looking forward to more vids :AOK

And I do love a rangemaster... ;)

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6802/trebleboardkz8.jpg

[amphead777]

Man, their product line is fantastic.

[erksin]

Wow; gotta have it...
I must have watched that video nine times, I NEED it is there a mailing list?

We don't believe in lists - but we should have some in our online store in another 6 weeks or so.

Thanks for all the kind words guys! :love:

[catalinbread]

We don't believe in lists - but we should have some in our online store in another 6 weeks or so.

Thanks for all the kind words guys! :love:


We have a mailing list, Erksie... Not a presale list though, these give me more grey hairs. Not sure which we're talkin about.

Thanks for the kind words fellas. We're still pickin over the DLS with a fine toothed comb. More to come.

[Andre357]

We have a mailing list, Erksie... Not a presale list though, these give me more grey hairs. Not sure which we're talkin about.

Thanks for the kind words fellas. We're still pickin over the DLS with a fine toothed comb. More to come.

Hey man, it looks from the picture that it may run on 9 - 18 volts, is that so ??

[erksin]

Hey man, it looks from the picture that it may run on 9 - 18 volts, is that so ??

Yeah - at 9v you get a little bit of that Variac sag thing happening, at 18v its tighter and more dynamic.

[Andre357]

Yeah - at 9v you get a little bit of that Variac sag thing happening, at 18v its tighter and more dynamic.


NICE. Definitely interested. I have one of those newer semaphores that sounds GLORIOUS run out of an 18 volt jack on my dunlop brick.

[catalinbread]

Hey man, it looks from the picture that it may run on 9 - 18 volts, is that so ??

Yup. We're finding the 9V application to be best at low volume bedroom rockin as well as giving you a bit of that variac'd "brown" character to the feel. That additional saturation that makes playing fun and easy. @18V you get a ton of dynamic content. My #1 personal goal was to get that big percussive sound and feeling of a 4x12 moving air, 18V gives ya that.

Today we will be hitting the DLS with a Strat further honing in on it's character. Right now our main focus is tuning the gain stages for clean up.

[Andre357]

Yup. We're finding the 9V application to be best at low volume bedroom rockin as well as giving you a bit of that variac'd "brown" character to the feel. That additional saturation that makes playing fun and easy. @18V you get a ton of dynamic content. My #1 personal goal was to get that big percussive sound and feeling of a 4x12 moving air, 18V gives ya that.

Today we will be hitting the DLS with a Strat further honing in on it's character. Right now our main focus is tuning the gain stages for clean up.

:AOK Lookin forward to this one ( love it's name btw ). And yes get it rocking ( or rawking ) with strats, PLEASE ;).

[zsno]

Video has been removed by owner.

Repost perhaps?

[Bobby D]

this pedal needs a Bobby D video....;)

[Ben C.]

this pedal needs a Bobby D video....;)
I think you mean Johnny DeMarco... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=124brfVrXts

-Ben

[Lolaviola]

Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=1lal8YoIq3g


... :huh
Spend a lotta time on that video? Huh?
Put a lotta work int it? Didja?
Huh? Lotta work? Into it? Huh?
http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/fGuy2006_Stewie1_f.jpg

[ford]

Wants!

[Purple]

Stratocaster!

[Bobby D]

I think you mean Johnny DeMarco... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=124brfVrXts

-Ben


i LOVE Johnny D......:JAM

[Ben C.]

i LOVE Johnny D......:JAM
His persona cracks me up, but to all the haters... the man can PLAY.

[catalinbread]

Video has been removed by owner.

Repost perhaps?


Will be putting up a "video manual" soon!

[TB72]

I think you mean Johnny DeMarco... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=124brfVrXts

-Ben

Is that the ShamWow guy wearing a Brady Bunch wig?:stir

Good player though.

Later...

[zerorez]

Erksin or Nicholas any news on the new DLS pedal! :)

[Realfi]

Damn, I missed the vid!

[zerorez]

Damn, I missed the vid!

Yeah! it was killer, I wish it was not pulled from You Tube! :BEER

[erksin]

Erksin or Nicholas any news on the new DLS pedal! :)

I think its pretty close to being ready. The boys have been working on getting the clean up characteristics just right. Should be within the next month ir two I'd guess...

[Purple]

sory i haz been hogging teh prototypez at mah homez. i giving it big workouts.

[Panacea]

I'll keep you, my Dirty Little Secret...Dirty Little Secret.

[erksin]

sory i haz been hogging teh prototypez at mah homez. i giving it big workouts.

Well at least we have the right man on the job.

:bong

[Purple]

Well at least we have the right man on the job.

:bong


damn straight the crooked line leading to teh diodes has me on it! :BEER

[catalinbread]

Here are a couple new videos.

Demonstration of playing dynamics and volume & tone interplay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZYiO6dMaok

4 DLS guitar parts in a mix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltbQlzz5yEo

[bluescube]

What's the price on this? I think this will be my mine!

[nsriley]

I want one!

[Bloomfield fan]

Great clip. Always great to hear gear with Zeppelin songs. Was that with the speaker in the Princeton?

[Purple]

Great clip. Always great to hear gear with Zeppelin songs. Was that with the speaker in the Princeton?

Yes it was - stock 10" Jensen ceramic. (I'm the gitfiddle player.) :AOK

[ford]

Cool.... gonna check out the vids when I get home!

rock

bford

[goldie-gold]

Great sounding pedal. The video was most impressive.

Now, stop messing around with new pedals and send some Heliotropes to Vintage and Rare Guitars in London. I want one so bad.

[Lt_Core]

This pedal sounds amazing! I love the G N' R video! Can't wait for more info on pricing and availability.

[madscientist]

I may have to pick this one up...sounds fantastic!

[chemical69]

are those clips with the toggle on Rock or RAWK? I couldn't tell...

[erksin]

are those clips with the toggle on Rock or RAWK? I couldn't tell...

I'm pretty sure it was Rawk mode for the GnR track, and Rock for the Pagey vid. Both clips are into the same amp, a PRRI with the volume on 2.

We'd had a few beers during the taping. :BEER

[catalinbread]

are those clips with the toggle on Rock or RAWK? I couldn't tell...

The GNR is on RAWK. The R8 is on ROCK.

RAWK setting is a bit more compressed and gainy, the lowend resonance is near your throat and the tonality focused and cutting. Like an 80's Marshall.

ROCK setting has the whole "single notes sound clean, chords sound crunchy Marshall-character", the lowend resonance is at your chest, the tonality is loose but NOT flabby. Like a 4 input Marshall.

The DLS is all about dynamics and player/gear interaction. In the clips we didn't demonstrate the differences between 9V and 18V because that is such a visceral experience. Unless you are playing it, it is tough to communicate in a video the "HUGE potential" feeling of the DLS @18V or the low volume rock god playing ease @9V.

Youtube compression doesn't help much to illustrate any of this, either.

[catalinbread]

I'm pretty sure it was Rawk mode for the GnR track, and Rock for the Pagey vid. Both clips are into the same amp, a PRRI with the volume on 2.

We'd had a few beers during the taping. :BEER

Hey now, you had a few beers, I had a Sharps.

[Lt_Core]

Youtube compression doesn't help much to illustrate any of this, either.

I smell a new Catalinbread U-Tooooob Compressor coming soon....LOL! ;)

[Strat58]

Hi I want one can I buy one in The Netherlands :)
Cool Zep sound.
Peace Strat58

[catalinbread]

I smell a new Catalinbread U-Tooooob Compressor coming soon....LOL! ;)

Why didn't I think of that?

[catalinbread]

Hi I want one can I buy one in The Netherlands :)
Cool Zep sound.
Peace Strat58


We'll be sending some to Sander at De Gier Gitaarbouw I suspect!

[Purple]

Hey now, you had a few beers, I had a Sharps.

Hahah, he doesn't realize it's a different take. :bong

[Lt_Core]

Why didn't I think of that?

I'll do some graphics for ya....hahaha!

[catalinbread]

More video treats courtesy of Howard!

Howard w/ his Strat, DLS, Keeley Java Boost, and "no you cannot has" mid '80s Roger Mayer Fuzz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RiO-JNtHZs

Howard with a AVRI Jazzmaster and Mastery Bridge (nice piece of hardware) DLS, Echodrive, Haunting Mids Fuzz, RMC Picture Wah, Catalinbread Heliotrope:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO1Xa2LMfSg

[doralin]

I'm having a strong feeling that this will knock my Cot 50 off the board right away as soon as I buy it :D

Anyone feel the same?

[crosse79]

Hmmm.. looks interesting. Gonna look at the vids later.

[steinwand]

I'm having a strong feeling that this will knock my Cot 50 off the board right away as soon as I buy it :D

Anyone feel the same?

hmm the DLS has the potential to kick a lot of pedals of boards :AOK

[traynor_garnet]

Do you have any audio tracks on your homepage? It would be great to hear some higher quality samples.

Youtube is useless for anything but a very rough suggestion of what a pedal actually sounds like. I've never understood why people whip out their credit cards after hearing highly compressed, lo-fi audio recordings (often done with a camcorder's mic to boot!). You guys realize Jimmy Page licks don't just suddenly fly out of your fingers after buying the pedal, right?! :p

TG

[uberschall]

Omigod, this thing sounds great!

[madscientist]

It's decided, I will be picking one of these up when they're released. Any word on price yet?

[erksin]

It's decided, I will be picking one of these up when they're released. Any word on price yet?

They're out now and are $159.95

[madscientist]

awesome

[traynor_garnet]

They're out now and are $159.95

Back to my previous post, do you have any clips using noncompressed audio?

Also, how transparent is the the pedal? Does it work well into a clean amp? Does it retain the low and high end?

I've been thinking of getting an OCD for my medium gain tones (Timmy has the low od covered) but the DLS sounds intriguing.

TG

[erksin]

Back to my previous post, do you have any clips using noncompressed audio?

Also, how transparent is the the pedal? Does it work well into a clean amp? Does it retain the low and high end?

I've been thinking of getting an OCD for my medium gain tones (Timmy has the low od covered) but the DLS sounds intriguing.

TG

I know we have some, but I don't have any on my computer. Maybe Nic can post a few at some point.

Its voiced like a JMP and JCM800 - so its not transparent like a Timmy is for instance. It was designed to go into a clean amp to give you a Marshall OD sound. If you like the highs and lows of those particular Marshalls, then you should be VERY pleased with the EQing.

[Blues Jr]

Wow, this pedal sounds great.

[ford]

Wants!

[In Tune]

definatley sounds good stacked...On its own Lets hear it Full On guitar Full On. Stop playing with the Guitar volume knob.

[jb1911]

My paypal balance is getting really low.

[utterhack]

Does it work well into a clean amp?

Weren't all of those vids into a PRRI on 2?

[catalinbread]

Weren't all of those vids into a PRRI on 2?

Yep.

[Andre357]

Those do sound good man.... Love it with the strat.

[Purple]

It sounds pretty "transparent" to me actually. In those clips, the dude plays a chord with all pedals off, then hits the DLS. Sounds like a more cranked version of the amp to me.


Timmy is anything but transparent if we're throwing that word around.

[Purple]

definatley sounds good stacked...On its own Lets hear it Full On guitar Full On. Stop playing with the Guitar volume knob.

wat

[Purple]

definatley sounds good stacked...on its own lets hear it full on guitar full on. Stop playing with the guitar volume knob.


wat

[Purple]

definatley sounds good stacked...on its own lets hear it full on guitar full on. Stop playing with the guitar volume knob.




wat.

[Blues Jr]

So what's the guts inside this little box? Inquiring minds want to know.
Oh, and trigger pulled. Damn gas!

[catalinbread]

So what's the guts inside this little box? Inquiring minds want to know.
Oh, and trigger pulled. Damn gas!

Inquiring minds want to know huh? JFETs.

[Purple]

Inquiring minds want to know huh? JFETs.


O rly? I thought you put tubes in there! :bong

[catalinbread]

O rly? I thought you put tubes in there! :bong


I tried. You know cause toobs let the bigger electrons through.

[bluescube]

I tried. You know cause toobs let the bigger electrons through.


I'll keep that a Dirty Little Secret......

[turtleheadblues]

Dont you know electrons can live freely in a crystal lattice??? Thats as simple as I can put it.

[catalinbread]

Dont you know electrons can live freely in a crystal lattice??? Thats as simple as I can put it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVTj08qTwGw


:BEER

[turtleheadblues]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVTj08qTwGw


:BEER

Lets take a look at my amplifier. I use a Dumble Overdrive Special. I make it sound like a broken Casio.

[catalinbread]

Lets take a look at my amplifier. I use a Dumble Overdrive Special. I make it sound like a broken Casio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1qCczGgSxw

:drool

[turtleheadblues]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1qCczGgSxw

:drool

I just farted thru a Dumble, I am so avant garde. Gee I wish Dr D would quit staring at me like I am the hamburgler.

[catalinbread]

I just farted thru a Dumble, I am so avant garde. Gee I wish Dr D would quit staring at me like I am the hamburgler.


Man now thats art!

[traynor_garnet]

It sounds pretty "transparent" to me actually.

Timmy is anything but transparent if we're throwing that word around.
:confused::eek:

[ford]

are they dirty JFETS?:BEER

[catalinbread]

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=328929

Maybe the tread was overlooked cause I mixed up my A and D in ASDR?

:confused::eek:

[chuenx]

I am really interested on this new pedal~
if you can show me it is able to do the tight crunchy JCM sound like crunch box with some videos~
definitely I (and many TGP dudes) will buy one immediately

[Purple]

I put together this outtake vid from the DLS demo sessions.... Waiting for pizza blues!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4O7OtwdJU8

[jb1911]

Hey Mike, your bass is upside down! This video made me buy one, I'll have it Monday.

[aziltz]

Inquiring minds want to know huh? JFETs.

loves me some jfets!

[In Tune]

I put together this outtake vid from the DLS demo sessions.... Waiting for pizza blues!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4O7OtwdJU8

Thanks to All Those involved with bringing this video to the table for our viewing and listening pleasure.. and what a pleasure it was!!!! Now I will buy Dis Wan for sure........ AND, Ive been on the fence on these PRRI's, but NOW,That too may have to change..... Do you take PayPal?

By the way,,,,How was the PIZZA?????????? Rawk On Man!! :drool :drool :drool

[todd richman]

WOW!!, that outtakes video is outstanding. The pedal just screams classic rock so much-can I get one and where? It may be the best sounding rock pedal I have ever heard and I have owned and still own quite a few dirt boxes. Really amazing what you have captured and created here. Holy smokes-I can't stop thinking about that tone. Makes me want a Les Paul again. How will this pedal sound with a good Tele or Esquire and an EL-84 amp-will it retain some of what I just heard on the video?

The irony is I started this thread when I found this thing mentioned somewhere-maybe on the Cat website and I don't own one yet! 111 replies too-I WANT ONE NOW!!

[Blues Jr]

Whoa, that outtake vid takes me back to '69 at the Fillmore. Rock on brother!

[jb1911]

Whoa, that outtake vid takes me back to '69 at the Fillmore. Rock on brother!

That's what I've been saying. Late '60s blues/rock/marshall goodness.:dude

[In Tune]

That's what I've been saying. Late '60s blues/rock/marshall goodness.:dude
And out of a Princeton Reverb on 2!!!!! I wonder what this sounds like on an amp on the verge of breakup... Delicious.:drink

[underdog]

Does "Princeton Reverb on 2" means I can get all those dynamics in a bedroom/dorm level on a solid state amp? Please say yes. :D

[catalinbread]

And out of a Princeton Reverb on 2!!!!! I wonder what this sounds like on an amp on the verge of breakup... Delicious.:drink

There is not a bad setting on the PRRI. Fender really nailed it. I've wanted one from the first time I heard a low E into the PRRI at GC. That single note completely owned all the weedle wankers playing their bees in tin cans.

Then Campilongo drove it home:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHVG4kDurtY

[jb1911]

What will it sound like through this?

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t211/jb1911/66PR.jpg

[utterhack]

What will it sound like through this?

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t211/jb1911/66PR.jpg


Awful. Please send amp to me for disposal.

[Purple]

Thanks to All Those involved with bringing this video to the table for our viewing and listening pleasure.. and what a pleasure it was!!!! Now I will buy Dis Wan for sure........ AND, Ive been on the fence on these PRRI's, but NOW,That too may have to change..... Do you take PayPal?

By the way,,,,How was the PIZZA?????????? Rawk On Man!! :drool :drool :drool

The pizza? I guess it was really really expensive. So later on in the evening we had to play "I Paid For The Pizza Blues". :cry:


:):):)

[Purple]

Here's another DLS "Princeton on 2" track.

Strat -> Keeley Java Boost -> DLS -> Princeton.

Black Sabbath, anyone? :Devil

http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=7411183&q=hi

[underdog]

dude, seriously please stop posting sound samples you're gonna make me sell something to afford one.

[Purple]

dude, seriously please stop posting sound samples you're gonna make me sell something to afford one.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/kittycaster/Emoticons/free2talk_dabd26019f36-laugh.gifhttp://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/kittycaster/Emoticons/thhug.gif

[zerorez]

Here's another DLS "Princeton on 2" track.

Strat -> Keeley Java Boost -> DLS -> Princeton.

Black Sabbath, anyone? :Devil

http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=7411183&q=hi


Way to go Horward, you are awesome Dude! :AOK:dude

[In Tune]

Does "Princeton Reverb on 2" means I can get all those dynamics in a bedroom/dorm level on a solid state amp? Please say yes. :D
O.K. YES. Now get back to your Homework. :Spank

[underdog]

O.K. YES. Now get back to your Homework. :Spank

Is that true or one of those lies to make me study? :D

[jb1911]

Here's another DLS "Princeton on 2" track.

Strat -> Keeley Java Boost -> DLS -> Princeton.

Black Sabbath, anyone? :Devil

http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=7411183&q=hi

:drool

[catalinbread]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh75WiPByuI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMjevmIWQfQ)

Last video of the series. This one is for the heavier sounds. The pickups in this guitar are very hot, so the clipping you hear with the DLS off is not the mic or the down stream stuff it was coming from the PRRI on two.

[chuenx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh75WiPByuI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMjevmIWQfQ)

Last video of the series. This one is for the heavier sounds. The pickups in this guitar are very hot, so the clipping you hear with the DLS off is not the mic or the down stream stuff it was coming from the PRRI on two.
wrong link....
u mean this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh75WiPByuI

[catalinbread]

wrong link....
u mean this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh75WiPByuI


You beat me to the edit. :AOK I posted the one of my dog barking at this dog:
http://appraisercentral.com/cleanscreen.swf

[doralin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh75WiPByuI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMjevmIWQfQ)

Last video of the series. This one is for the heavier sounds. The pickups in this guitar are very hot, so the clipping you hear with the DLS off is not the mic or the down stream stuff it was coming from the PRRI on two.


Lol..

All I saw was a dog barking into a computer screen.

Found it anyhow

That was some really awesome demo-ing. I really like the chug I heard coming from the guitar+pedal.

Definitely on my to-buy list

[erksin]

That was some really awesome demo-ing. I really like the chug I heard coming from the guitar+pedal.

I think more than any other clip this one demonstrates just how much the DLS's input range acts like a real amp in how it responds to your pickups. If you go back and review the previous clip of the 'Appetite' tones I think the pedal was set up at roughly the same settings - the guitar sounds are completely different not only in the amount of gain achieved but dynamic response as well.

[In Tune]

Sorry , it was the Pizza Party Video that sold me. Time to order . OOPs, already did Dat. :munch :munch :munch

[Purple]

Sorry , it was the Pizza Party Video that sold me. Time to order . OOPs, already did Dat. :munch :munch :munch

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/kittycaster/Emoticons/thenewym_-hyper.gifhttp://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/kittycaster/Emoticons/thhug.gif

[uberschall]

Got mine today! I'm getting good results so far with my EDT set clean. My settings have evolved to:

12 volts, all knobs :52; great starting point for:
-both modes
-13/29 watt settings, mid-boost on and off on amp
-hums/singles
-stacking with Lift boost at :45 and A+B channel on Switchazel, which is in front of DLS
(haven't tried stage/band volume yet, but I'm getting inspiring tones with my amp knocked down with a Hotplate, and that's a must.)

[teleking36]

Just ordered one directly from Catalinbread. This will be the first pedal for my new mini board for my '68 Princeton Reverb.

I can't wait!!!

[jb1911]

Just ordered one directly from Catalinbread. This will be the first pedal for my new mini board for my '68 Princeton Reverb.

I can't wait!!!

It may be the only dirt pedal you need. I got mine yesterday
and so far I'm very impressed. I want to reserve my gushing
until I've tried it out more, stacking and all that, but so far :drool

Great job Cbread dudes. :RoCkIn

[madscientist]

Posted this in another thread, but I thought it could help some people decide to take the leap.




Got mine yesterday and checked it out for about two hours.

My very first impression is WOW. Using my strat (single coils only), it is a very, VERY nice low-medium gain OD that is extremely responsive to how hard you hit the strings and where your volume is set. I was looking for something with a bit less drive than my OCD, and this fits the bill exactly.

Gain wise, I would put it in between the KOT (OD mode) and the OCD, having the responsiveness of the OCD and the beautiful top end clarity of the KOT. The top end of the DLS has a VERY nice chime and openness to it, while the bottom end is nice and thick. Cleans up nicely when you turn down, backs off when you hit the strings softer...really really nice job on this.

Tone knob is effective but not super sensitive...which I like. The two modes sound similar, but not identical and I'm having a hard time chosing between them. The top setting (rawk) seems to be better for lead work as the upper notes have a bit more thickness to them while the lower setting (rock) just oozes rhythm tones in spades (think the stones, crowes type of stuff) due to, what I perceive, is a top end that's a bit lighter. Don't take that as something bad, because, you can just boost it by goosing with another pedal to get it close to the "rawk" modes tones (I used my KOT for this).

This pedal also plays very nicely with other pedals, which is always a pleasant surprise.

I'm going to using it more over the next few days and I'll be sure to post more about it. I'll do some clips this weekend.

I've gotta say, as my first catalinbread product, this is a home run. Now it's got me looking at other pedals in the line.

Great job!

[88mm]

Has anyone used a Fuzz Face type in front of this?
if so how do yu like it.
-
I can't seem to find an overdrive or distortion of this type that works well with a fuzz face in front of it.

[Angle Loss]

Has anyone used a Fuzz Face type in front of this?
if so how do yu like it.
-
I can't seem to find an overdrive or distortion of this type that works well with a fuzz face in front of it.

I use a Silicon FF in front of mine and it works great in the Rock mode, about mid gain. It gives me the sound of a Marshall and Fuzz Face through my Fenders. The Timmy also works really well for this application.

[uberschall]

I tried mine at 9V today, and damn, I like it even better! Felt even more like part of the amp. I put it back in front of my Switchazel too so I don't lose my solo boost.

EDIT: I like 12V even better than 9V!!

Also, my RSA23 already has the plexi/jcm thing going, but the DSL sounds great on top of it too as a low/med gain boost.

[Pappy]

My very first impression is WOW. Using my strat (single coils only), it is a very, VERY nice low-medium gain OD that is extremely responsive to how hard you hit the strings and where your volume is set. I was looking for something with a bit less drive than my OCD, and this fits the bill exactly.

Gain wise, I would put it in between the KOT (OD mode) and the OCD, having the responsiveness of the OCD and the beautiful top end clarity of the KOT. The top end of the DLS has a VERY nice chime and openness to it, while the bottom end is nice and thick. Cleans up nicely when you turn down, backs off when you hit the strings softer...really really nice job on this.

Tone knob is effective but not super sensitive...which I like. The two modes sound similar, but not identical and I'm having a hard time chosing between them. The top setting (rawk) seems to be better for lead work as the upper notes have a bit more thickness to them while the lower setting (rock) just oozes rhythm tones in spades (think the stones, crowes type of stuff) due to, what I perceive, is a top end that's a bit lighter. Don't take that as something bad, because, you can just boost it by goosing with another pedal to get it close to the "rawk" modes tones (I used my KOT for this).

This pedal also plays very nicely with other pedals, which is always a pleasant surprise.


These are my findings as well. I really love the "Rock" setting. The "Rawk" mode is very cool too but I prefer it for lead work over chords as it's a bit thicker sounding with more upper mids. I set the tone at 11:00 and the Gain at 1:00 for great AC/DC style distortion. Sounds fabulous.

[gitfiddler]

How is the DLS working out at loud volumes for everyone? I got a Plexi style head that was built for really clean, loud tones That I run through a 4 x 12 and was wondering if anyone else was running this pedal through a similar set up? If this pedal makes a small combo amp sound like a 4 x 12 , That will put me somewhere around 3 full stacks of sound, right?!

[Purple]

Has anyone used a Fuzz Face type in front of this?
if so how do yu like it.
-
I can't seem to find an overdrive or distortion of this type that works well with a fuzz face in front of it.

It was designed with fuzz faces in mind! :AOK

[jb1911]

It was designed with fuzz faces in mind! :AOK


:eek: '69>DLS :bow

[Purple]

:eek: '69>DLS :bow

We used a variety of fuzz faces when developing the DLS..... the '69 was one of them. http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/kittycaster/Emoticons/thhug.gif

[erksin]

Yeah - '69 or a treble booster were my two faves when stacking.

[jb1911]

Hitting it with a ScrewDriver with the pre-gain set to zero sounds amazing, try it.

[imguitardan]

Hitting it with a ScrewDriver with the pre-gain set to zero sounds amazing, try it.

I was thinking of putting it in front of my ScrewDriver...sans stacking...what d'ya think?

[teleking36]

I'll pluck my Sunlion off my main board and give it a shot with the DLS when it arrives.

I haven't been this excited about a dirt pedal since getting my Timmy in 2006!

[jb1911]

I was thinking of putting it in front of my ScrewDriver...sans stacking...what d'ya think?

I haven't tried that, it seems like the DLS should go last because they designed it that way. Let me know how it sounds.

[bbrunskill]

By the sound of it, this pedal may enter the Realm Of Legend.

[thesjkexperienc]

And, the obvious question is how does it compare to the OCD and the Timmy???

Also, how does it sound into a dirty one channel amp?

[In Tune]

And, the obvious question is how does it compare to the OCD and the Timmy???

Also, how does it sound into a dirty one channel amp?
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[thesjkexperienc]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Did I miss something? I read most of the thread and no one mentioned a dirty amp?

[madscientist]

And, the obvious question is how does it compare to the OCD and the Timmy???

Also, how does it sound into a dirty one channel amp?


Haven't tried it with a dirty amp but, I can compare it to an OCD v.4.



With single coils, it has less gain than the OCD. At max gain in Rawk mode, I would say that it has the same amount of gain if the OCD was set to a gain of 1:00-2:00 on the LP side of things (about 12:00-1:00 on HP). The DLS has less bass than the OCD, but it cleans up just as nicely....I mean it, JUST as nicely. I haven't found many pedals that can do that, but the DLS can in spades. The DLS has more mids than the OCD, so I noticed, imediately, that it comes right out in the mix.

The only drawback I've found to the DLS is, that on the neck pickup, it can get a bit flubby on the bass if you're not eq'ed right, but that's no big deal. The pedal is fantastic!!!!!!!

[fr8_trane]

Haven't tried it with a dirty amp but, I can compare it to an OCD v.4.



With single coils, it has less gain than the OCD. At max gain in Rawk mode, I would say that it has the same amount of gain if the OCD was set to a gain of 1:00-2:00 on the LP side of things (about 12:00-1:00 on HP). The DLS has less bass than the OCD, but it cleans up just as nicely....I mean it, JUST as nicely. I haven't found many pedals that can do that, but the DLS can in spades. The DLS has more mids than the OCD, so I noticed, imediately, that it comes right out in the mix.

The only drawback I've found to the DLS is, that on the neck pickup, it can get a bit flubby on the bass if you're not eq'ed right, but that's no big deal. The pedal is fantastic!!!!!!!

Hmmmm....

Things I liked about the OCD
1. dynamic response

Things I didn't like about the OCD
1. flubby bass
2. not enough mids
3. Didn't sound good with the gain past noon
4. The treble seemed a bit harsh at times with single coils
5. unity gain was below 9:00 on the volume knob
6. Lacked sustain (maybe a byproduct of the dynamic response?)

Sounds like CB may have an OCD killer here. How's the treble response and sustain and where is unity gain?

[Foster]

Just ordered one.

You guys should be getting a commission.

[madscientist]

Hmmmm....

Things I liked about the OCD
1. dynamic response

Things I didn't like about the OCD
1. flubby bass
2. not enough mids
3. Didn't sound good with the gain past noon
4. The treble seemed a bit harsh at times with single coils
5. unity gain was below 9:00 on the volume knob
6. Lacked sustain (maybe a byproduct of the dynamic response?)

Sounds like CB may have an OCD killer here. How's the treble response and sustain and where is unity gain?

Sustain is MUCH better than the OCD. That's one of my main issues with it. You can have the gain cranked and the sustain just isn't where it should be (if it was an amp cranked like that). The OCD isn't leaving my board though, I'll use it goosed with a KOT for higher gain applications. The treble on the DLS is wonderful. Gives a very pleasing top end chime that just doesn't exist with the OCD..without getting harsh.

I know it sounds like I'm trashing the OCD, I'm not, it's still one of my favorite pedals, but the DLS is just different in a very good way.

I don't remember where unity gain was..I'll have to get back to you on that.

[CJReaper]

Does the DLS have enough gain for 80s era Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Dio, etc.? It seems like every pedal that sounds good to me tone-wise is always just a hair shy in the gain department, so I hope this one has the tone AND gain that I'm looking for.

Cheers,

CJ

[thesjkexperienc]

Thanks, I typically use smaller amps and have natural OD from the amp. Think 5 watt Swart STR-tweed and Victoria 20112 with Blue. My board doesn't have much room so it would be in rotation with an v.4 OCD. There are no Catalinbread dealers nearby, so I have to rely on you guys for info.

Someone run the DLS into a dirty amp please! Thanks!

[BAN]

For those of you using this pedal in lower gain applications, does anyone have a comment about bass loss with this pedal when compared to the bypassed tone? Definitely sounds like it retains the bass in the videos, but I can't be sure.

My favorite low gainer for a while now is the Screw Driver and I can set that up with no bass loss at all. In comparison, I just received a KOT, and the bass loss was too much for me.

So, how's the bass? Too little (KOT), too much (BoR) or perfect?

Thanks!

[Purple]

Does the DLS have enough gain for 80s era Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Dio, etc.? It seems like every pedal that sounds good to me tone-wise is always just a hair shy in the gain department, so I hope this one has the tone AND gain that I'm looking for.

Cheers,

CJ

Remember, a lot of those tones were boosted Marshalls, not Marshalls by themselves. For example, Priest used treble boosters in front of their Marshalls. DLS was designed respond the same way.

[Thames]

How is the DLS working out at loud volumes for everyone? I got a Plexi style head that was built for really clean, loud tones That I run through a 4 x 12 and was wondering if anyone else was running this pedal through a similar set up? If this pedal makes a small combo amp sound like a 4 x 12 , That will put me somewhere around 3 full stacks of sound, right?!

Same question here.

[catalinbread]

Exactly. I've been told Maiden used Neve preamps in front of Marshalls for their sound.

Remember, a lot of those tones were boosted Marshalls, not Marshalls by themselves. For example, Priest used treble boosters in front of their Marshalls. DLS was designed respond the same way.

[CJReaper]

Remember, a lot of those tones were boosted Marshalls, not Marshalls by themselves. For example, Priest used treble boosters in front of their Marshalls. DLS was designed respond the same way.

Yeah, I understand that, that's why I wanted to know if the pedal on it's own had that much gain or if it needed a boost. :AOK

Cheers,

CJ

[catalinbread]

Yeah, I understand that, that's why I wanted to know if the pedal on it's own had that much gain or if it needed a boost. :AOK

Cheers,

CJ

We tried to keep it true to what we were hearing with actual amps. Some of our favorite album tones had to be "sorted out" for things like Distortion +, treble boosts, Toobscreamers etc. Though in most of those cases it was pretty easy to hear. The ones shrouded in folklore like Van Halen or Page or Clapton were a bit more difficult.

[Pappy]

For those of you using this pedal in lower gain applications, does anyone have a comment about bass loss with this pedal when compared to the bypassed tone? Definitely sounds like it retains the bass in the videos, but I can't be sure.

My favorite low gainer for a while now is the Screw Driver and I can set that up with no bass loss at all. In comparison, I just received a KOT, and the bass loss was too much for me.

So, how's the bass? Too little (KOT), too much (BoR) or perfect?

Thanks!

I feel that the bass level is just about perfect. It doesn't boost it unnaturally (if at all) and it definitely doesn't cut the bass. I'd call it just above unity bass. This is a big issue for me as well so I understand why you asked. I'm definitely still in the honeymoon stage but I love my DLS.

[Purple]

Yeah, I understand that, that's why I wanted to know if the pedal on it's own had that much gain or if it needed a boost. :AOK

Cheers,

CJ


http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/kittycaster/Emoticons/thhug.gif

[Pappy]

Howard -

Aren't you friends with Greg Merriman? If so, we hung out at his wedding many years ago in the SF bay area. Regardless, I love your playing on the DLS clips.

Michael Papenburg

[Purple]

Howard -

Aren't you friends with Greg Merriman? If so, we hung out at his wedding many years ago in the SF bay area. Regardless, I love your playing on the DLS clips.

Michael Papenburg

Oh really?!!!!! Yeah, I know Greg!! Haven't talked to him in a while.... do talk to him often? Wow, cool!!!


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http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/kittycaster/Emoticons/thhug.gif

[Pappy]

Greg & I were in the band Lilyvolt together many years ago. We are both currently playing with a singer/songwriter named Cameron Ember. We actually have a rehearsal tonight so I'll probably see him (he may be traveling for work this week). I'll tell him you said "hello".

[Purple]

Greg & I were in the band Lilyvolt together many years ago. We are both currently playing with a singer/songwriter named Cameron Ember. We actually have a rehearsal tonight so I'll probably see him (he may be traveling for work this week). I'll tell him you said "hello".

Oh! I saw Lilyvolt a lot back in the day! Please do say hi for me! http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/kittycaster/Emoticons/hkitty.gif

[russv]

I was the dude mentioned who said it sounded good into a mixer. It sounds better through my gibson falcon, but still does nicely direct. The closed back feel it gives to an open backed cab is hard for me to understand. Great stuff

[CJReaper]

We tried to keep it true to what we were hearing with actual amps. Some of our favorite album tones had to be "sorted out" for things like Distortion +, treble boosts, Toobscreamers etc. Though in most of those cases it was pretty easy to hear. The ones shrouded in folklore like Van Halen or Page or Clapton were a bit more difficult.

Well, I'm a Marshall freak and I love your pedals so I'll definitely get one (as soon as Tommy gets some in his shop), I'm just on a never ending quest to find a "boosted Marshall-in-a-box" but all of the pedals described as that are too scooped or fuzzy sounding to me. Right now I'm using a Silver Kiss (MKII) for late 70s/early 80s Judas Priest tones and it really excels at that but the DLS may be even better.

Cheers,

CJ

[Purple]

I was the dude mentioned who said it sounded good into a mixer. It sounds better through my gibson falcon, but still does nicely direct. The closed back feel it gives to an open backed cab is hard for me to understand. Great stuff

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/kittycaster/Emoticons/th13cc6dc7.gif

[catalinbread]

Well, I'm a Marshall freak and I love your pedals so I'll definitely get one (as soon as Tommy gets some in his shop), I'm just on a never ending quest to find a "boosted Marshall-in-a-box" but all of the pedals described as that are too scooped or fuzzy sounding to me. Right now I'm using a Silver Kiss (MKII) for late 70s/early 80s Judas Priest tones and it really excels at that but the DLS may be even better.

Cheers,

CJ


I sent one to Tommy. See if he has it for you to try. :stir

[thesjkexperienc]

And still no one has tried it through a dirty amp?

[Panacea]

And still no one has tried it through a dirty amp?That's double dirty...:eek:

[Blues Jr]

How would the Hyperpak stack with the DLS? Think it would make a good boost for the DLS as well?

[BAN]

I feel that the bass level is just about perfect. It doesn't boost it unnaturally (if at all) and it definitely doesn't cut the bass. I'd call it just above unity bass. This is a big issue for me as well so I understand why you asked. I'm definitely still in the honeymoon stage but I love my DLS.

Thanks, Pappy! That's what I was hoping to hear.

[CJReaper]

I sent one to Tommy. See if he has it for you to try. :stir

Very cool, I'll start bugging him about it right away!!! :dude

Cheers,

CJ

[cheetah77]

Bought mine off Ebay on Sunday, was hoping it would be here today, maybe tomorrow. Waiting for gear time moves slower than watched pot time.

Hey, nice job with the USO donation from the Ebay sale Catalinfolks!

[teleking36]

Got my delivery confirmation from Nick this afternoon. Portland to Boston by Saturday?!?!?! We'll see!!!

[prometheus]

Got my delivery confirmation from Nick this afternoon. Portland to Boston by Saturday?!?!?! We'll see!!!

Go Sox! Let us know how the DLS works for you!

[Lucidology]

-----------


YouTube - Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret Plays Dynamics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZYiO6dMaok)

OMG...
IMHO, the tone in this youtube tone sounds very hard & unforgiving
(said with all due respect to those who like it..)

However, would really like to hear a different kind of player
with a different kind of setup demo this pedal ...
(Maybe starting with a cleaner amp ...)

[catalinbread]

-----------


YouTube - Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret Plays Dynamics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZYiO6dMaok)

OMG...
IMHO, the tone in this youtube tone sounds very hard & unforgiving
(said with all due respect to those who like it..)

However, would really like to hear a different kind of player
with a different kind of setup demo this pedal ...
(Maybe starting with a cleaner amp ...)


It doesn't get much cleaner than a Princeton on 2. Maybe a JC120.

[catalinbread]

Bought mine off Ebay on Sunday, was hoping it would be here today, maybe tomorrow. Waiting for gear time moves slower than watched pot time.

Hey, nice job with the USO donation from the Ebay sale Catalinfolks!


Word. I dunno how many times I slept on a couch at the USO with no other place to go waiting for a hop overseas.

[Lucidology]

It doesn't get much cleaner than a Princeton on 2. Maybe a JC120.

Please ...No disrespect intended .
as I love every product I've ever used by catalinbread,
just curious about how it would sound with a different approach ...

[catalinbread]

Please ...No disrespect intended .
as I love every product I've ever used by catalinbread,
just curious about how it would sound with a different approach ...


I took no disrespect out of it at all. PRRI is really shockingly clean amp. A different player is definitely a valid point. I am looking forward to more players. Did you see the other videos?

Heres a loose jam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4O7OtwdJU8

[Lucidology]

Thanks ... I will check that youtube out ..
Plus, I'm not familiar with the PRRI
and apologize for my assumption that the amp was already breaking up before the pedal was turned on ...

[In Tune]

I took no disrespect out of it at all. PRRI is really shockingly clean amp. A different player is definitely a valid point. I am looking forward to more players. Did you see the other videos?

Heres a loose jam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4O7OtwdJU8
Frozen Pizza in Oven....... Now to listen to Dis Wan Again!!!!! Rawk ON. :RoCkIn

[teleking36]

If I get the DLS by Saturday, I will gladly post a quick vid of it and my '68 Princeton Reverb cranked up to see how it responds to an already cooking amp. I can do it through my Supreme 16 (2xEL84) too if anyone's interested...

[catalinbread]

thanks ... I will check that youtube out ..
Plus, i'm not familiar with the prri
and apologize for my assumption that the amp was already breaking up before the pedal was turned on ...

:BEER
I really like these amps!

[Thazy]

This is next up on my list. Sounds great in every video I've seen. I would love to put in in front of my AC-30!!

[SmelltheGlove]

I can do it through my Supreme 16 (2xEL84) too if anyone's interested...

Yes please! Very interested in how it works through a cranked up lower watt EL84 amp.:AOK

[ibzmav]

has anyone of you guys a/b'ed it side by side with an OCD?

[Blunder]

Yes please! Very interested in how it works through a cranked up lower watt EL84 amp.:AOK

Sounds great thru a low watt EL84 amp. I've heard it thru a Goodsell Super17 and it smokes?:RoCkIn

[Blues Jr]

Damn you guys! I haven't got mine yet! It should sound sweet through my '73 Traynor YGM im sure.

[catalinbread]

has anyone of you guys a/b'ed it side by side with an OCD?


We did, but I won't say more than this because I already have a TGP infraction.

[catalinbread]

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YouTube - Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret Plays Dynamics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZYiO6dMaok)

OMG...
IMHO, the tone in this youtube tone sounds very hard & unforgiving
(said with all due respect to those who like it..)

However, would really like to hear a different kind of player
with a different kind of setup demo this pedal ...
(Maybe starting with a cleaner amp ...)

Howard and I got to talking about this clip tonight actually. He agrees with you methinks. There were all sorts of conditions to consider. I remembered the Strat was the first thing we shot that day. This video was basically his warm up that day. First thing I did was stick him infront of two cameras, hot bright lights, with protools running, cold hands, within very close proximity to the amp, and said "ROLLING".
:thud
I am not trying to make excuses cause his playing doesn't need me to do that... But the more I think about your observation the more I realize you're intuitive enough recognize the fight, which is great. I am sorta delivering the Paul Harvey.

[Purple]

Howard and I got to talking about this clip tonight actually. He agrees with you methinks. There were all sorts of conditions to consider. I remembered the Strat was the first thing we shot that day. This video was basically his warm up that day. First thing I did was stick him infront of two cameras, hot bright lights, with protools running, cold hands, within very close proximity to the amp, and said "ROLLING".
:thud
I am not trying to make excuses cause his playing doesn't need me to do that... But the more I think about your observation the more I realize you're intuitive enough recognize the fight, which is great. I am sorta delivering the Paul Harvey.



Yeah, that Strat clip is pretty mehtastic. I definitely wasn't on yet.


Here's a track with the same Princeton on 2, same Strat, same DLS - sounds like liquid! http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=7411183&q=hi

[Lucidology]

Howard and I got to talking about this clip tonight actually. He agrees with you methinks. There were all sorts of conditions to consider. I remembered the Strat was the first thing we shot that day. This video was basically his warm up that day. First thing I did was stick him infront of two cameras, hot bright lights, with protools running, cold hands, within very close proximity to the amp, and said "ROLLING".
:thud
I am not trying to make excuses cause his playing doesn't need me to do that... But the more I think about your observation the more I realize you're intuitive enough recognize the fight, which is great. I am sorta delivering the Paul Harvey.

Yeah, that Strat clip is pretty mehtastic. I definitely wasn't on yet.


Here's a track with the same Princeton on 2, same Strat, same DLS - sounds like liquid! http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=7411183&q=hi

Your soundclick right at 3 minutes really shows off how great that pedal can truly sound ...
Great playing ... good job...great sound

Thanks for being truly cool and understanding where I was coming from ...
Thumbs way up ...:AOK

[Purple]

Your soundclick right at 3 minutes really shows off how great that pedal can truly sound ...
Great playing ... good job...great sound

Thanks for being truly cool and understanding where I was coming from ...
Thumbs way up ...:AOK

Hey! I checked out some of your soundclick.... that's some nice music going on there! http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/kittycaster/Emoticons/thhug.gif

[madscientist]

has anyone of you guys a/b'ed it side by side with an OCD?


Yes, look back a few pages (post #156).

[teleking36]

USPS says it has arrived!!! I love Pedal Fridays!!! Video clips plans are:

DLS + '68 Princeton Reverb + Teye/Tele
DLS + '68 Super Reverb + Teye/Tele/Jazzmaster
DLS + Tophat Supreme 16 + Teye/Tele

I'll try and get them all done this weekend.

[madscientist]

USPS says it has arrived!!! I love Pedal Fridays!!! Video clips plans are:

DLS + '68 Princeton Reverb + Teye/Tele
DLS + '68 Super Reverb + Teye/Tele/Jazzmaster
DLS + Tophat Supreme 16 + Teye/Tele

I'll try and get them all done this weekend.


Tele's? You should try it with a real guitar.

;)

[teleking36]

Tele's? You should try it with a real guitar.

;)

hehe. please inform me on what a "real" guitar is.

[madscientist]

hehe. please inform me on what a "real" guitar is.


It's a strat, of course. ;)



I'm looking forward to hearing your samples...the chime of the pedal with a good tele should be magical. :AOK

[Thazy]

Yeah, that Strat clip is pretty mehtastic. I definitely wasn't on yet.


Here's a track with the same Princeton on 2, same Strat, same DLS - sounds like liquid! http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=7411183&q=hi

Killer clip. Would love to hear more. I hear Sabbath and Deep Purple tones for sure in there. Thanks for posting.

[drod2045]

sounds good! reminds of the direct drive

[underdog]

Killer clip. Would love to hear more. I hear Sabbath and Deep Purple tones for sure in there. Thanks for posting.

+1 on that!

especially the blackmore era.

[BAN]

Here's a track with the same Princeton on 2, same Strat, same DLS - sounds like liquid! http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=7411183&q=hi

Whoa! Damn! That's what I like to hear.

[catalinbread]

Whoa! Damn! That's what I like to hear.


Howard and Logan (drums and bass) kick a lot of ass together.

[Foster]

Got mine today...talk about fast shipping!! Portland to NY in two days.

Love it so far, but the one quirk I have noticed (at least with my rig) is that I have to turn the Loudness significantly past unity gain for the pedal to really start cooking and sounding great to me.

Must experiment more!

[erksin]

Got mine today...talk about fast shipping!! Portland to NY in two days.

Love it so far, but the one quirk I have noticed (at least with my rig) is that I have to turn the Loudness significantly past unity gain for the pedal to really start cooking and sounding great to me.

Must experiment more!

Are you using lower output pickups by any chance?

[Foster]

Nope.....I've only played it with my Yamaha SBG so far....fairly hot 'buckers in it.

I think my amp needs new tubes though...don't know if that's a factor.

[underdog]

Can you compare the Mxr Dist III and the DLS?

[Lucidology]

Hey! I checked out some of your soundclick.... that's some nice music going on there! http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/kittycaster/Emoticons/thhug.gif

Thanks a lot ... check out the youtube clip in my sig ...
A little over the top but it might be good for a laugh or two ...:phones

[Foster]

Can you compare the Mxr Dist III and the DLS?


Right now all I have noticed that that the Rawk setting on the DLS will give you more gain than the Distortion III and that the tone knob on the DLS is much more useful...I don't know for sure but I think it might be active.

I can do a more complete comparison for you when I have more time.

[underdog]

Thanks. Looking forward for that.

[CJReaper]

Yeah, that Strat clip is pretty mehtastic. I definitely wasn't on yet.


Here's a track with the same Princeton on 2, same Strat, same DLS - sounds like liquid! http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=7411183&q=hi

WOAH!!! Hang on kids, that's what I'm talking about!!!!!!! Is that just the DLS or is it being boosted????? If that's the DLS by itself then it may very well have enough gain for the project I'd be using it with. Nice clip!!

Cheers,

CJ

[Purple]

WOAH!!! Hang on kids, that's what I'm talking about!!!!!!! Is that just the DLS or is it being boosted????? If that's the DLS by itself then it may very well have enough gain for the project I'd be using it with. Nice clip!!

Cheers,

CJ

hey thanks, man!

the guitar chain in that track is a CS '60 strat (with stock pups) -> rangemaster type booster (Javaboost set to mid boost) -> DLS -> Princeton (set to 2 which is barely cracked open on the volume, no amp breakup). :AOK

the idea was to be able to get old school metal tones the old school way... plus you can disengage the booster and go back to the DLS' plexi-ish crunch for a wide palette of tones.

[utterhack]

Can you compare the Mxr Dist III and the DLS?

I have both. I'm a big fan of the DIII - best under-$100 low-gainer I know. Has a few meh sounds in it and a couple of really good ones... nice for BFG-type fat rhythms.

The DLS is in a completely different league. Really.

It just doesn't feel like a pedal.

[Purple]

Thanks a lot ... check out the youtube clip in my sig ...
A little over the top but it might be good for a laugh or two ...:phones

awesome!

looks like a great gig! all those people dancing!

great soloing there! :BEER

[Foster]

Ok, I've got a little more time now.

+1 to it not feeling like a pedal....the DLS is much more sensitive to pick attack than the MXR. More bottom end too....like I said...I think the tone control is active. Rolling it back seems to boost the lows insteand of just cutting the highs.

It's also got that "I'm holding this thing back" instead of "I need to make sound come out" feeling you get from really driven power tubes...if that makes any sense.

The MXR isn't coming off my pedal board any time soon since it has this strange ability to thicken up my strats like no other pedal can, but the DLS will be taking over all humbucker/rhythm/hard rock/ blues solo duties from now on.

[underdog]

Ok, I've got a little more time now.

+1 to it not feeling like a pedal....the DLS is much more sensitive to pick attack than the MXR. More bottom end too....like I said...I think the tone control is active. Rolling it back seems to boost the lows insteand of just cutting the highs.

It's also got that "I'm holding this thing back" instead of "I need to make sound come out" feeling you get from really driven power tubes...if that makes any sense.

The MXR isn't coming off my pedal board any time soon since it has this strange ability to thicken up my strats like no other pedal can, but the DLS will be taking over all humbucker/rhythm/hard rock/ blues solo duties from now on.

I have both. I'm a big fan of the DIII - best under-$100 low-gainer I know. Has a few meh sounds in it and a couple of really good ones... nice for BFG-type fat rhythms.

The DLS is in a completely different league. Really.

It just doesn't feel like a pedal.

Thank you both for the info.

[erksin]

It's also got that "I'm holding this thing back" instead of "I need to make sound come out" feeling you get from really driven power tubes...if that makes any sense.

Thats actually a really great way of describing it. :AOK

[utterhack]

omg i just said "it doesn't feel like a pedal" on TGP

:facepalm


Catalinbread will pay for this indignity!

[catalinbread]

It's also got that "I'm holding this thing back" instead of "I need to make sound come out" feeling you get from really driven power tubes...if that makes any sense.



Yes! When pick softly on the DLS you can FEEL the potential it has if and when you decide to really dig in.

[foll]

just one weird question here...

has anyone tried starving DLS?

[catalinbread]

just one weird question here...

has anyone tried starving DLS?


We did. I didn't care for it too much. It seemed the optimum range was 8 to 18V.

[Purple]

Ok, I've got a little more time now.

+1 to it not feeling like a pedal....the DLS is much more sensitive to pick attack than the MXR. More bottom end too....like I said...I think the tone control is active. Rolling it back seems to boost the lows insteand of just cutting the highs.

It's also got that "I'm holding this thing back" instead of "I need to make sound come out" feeling you get from really driven power tubes...if that makes any sense.

The MXR isn't coming off my pedal board any time soon since it has this strange ability to thicken up my strats like no other pedal can, but the DLS will be taking over all humbucker/rhythm/hard rock/ blues solo duties from now on.


During my testing, I really liked the Distortion III pushing the DLS... made a great rockin' sound.

[Soundhound]

Anyone tried the dls for slide yet?

[Coach]

I've been playing a lot of slide lately...trying to cop a George Harrison vibe...and I use a DLS... so, what do you mean?

[Ouchz]

I'm digging the soundclips... does it have enough gain to be the main distortion/overdrive pedal?

How does it compares with the BB preamp pedal?

[Burgs]

Here's a new clip, with a little help from Sadie.

Thanks Nicholas and all at CB. The pedal's killer. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr8dzLrc4xs

[Blues Jr]

Awesome vid as usual Burger!

[erksin]

Here's a new clip, with a little help from Sadie.

Thanks Nicholas and all at CB. The pedal's killer. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr8dzLrc4xs

Awesome as usual, Brett - tell Sadie Josh says 'hi'! :dude

[traynor_garnet]

Here's a new clip, with a little help from Sadie.

Thanks Nicholas and all at CB. The pedal's killer.

Ok, I give. I just bought one on ebay. Is it here yet . . . ?

TG

[Bloomfield fan]

Burger, thank you for another great video. You really did a nice job showing off different aspects of the pedal.
Has anyone compared the DLS with a COT50?

[traynor_garnet]

Anyone tried the dls for slide yet?

I think it would be bulky and hard to control. I'll probably just stick with a traditional glass slide.

TG

[michael dukes]

Here's a new clip, with a little help from Sadie.

Thanks Nicholas and all at CB. The pedal's killer. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr8dzLrc4xs

Great video. Great pedal. And that daughter of yours...oy. Any chance you'd like to discuss an arranged marriage? I have two sons, 9 and 11, who appear to pretty much be Sadie's male American counterparts. Though in the interest of full disclosure I should probably warn you the 9 year old is a drummer...

[roquero]

should have mine in a few days- anyone try it with active pickups? I'm planning to run it into a 65 BF Bandmaster that has recently been tuned up and restored to BF specs

[erksin]

Great video. Great pedal. And that daughter of yours...oy. Any chance you'd like to discuss an arranged marriage? I have two sons, 9 and 11, who appear to pretty much be Sadie's male American counterparts. Though in the interest of full disclosure I should probably warn you the 9 year old is a drummer...

Back off, dude - my 6 y/o son already has dibs!!!

:boxer

[jb1911]

Here's a new clip, with a little help from Sadie.

Thanks Nicholas and all at CB. The pedal's killer. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr8dzLrc4xs

Your videos always make my day whether I like the pedal or not. Say hi to Sadie for me.


Concerning the DLS, the more I play with it, the better I like it. I've even stacked it with a '69, Lunar Module, ScrewDriver, Timmy and BBB07 and it sounds killer with them all. My favorite part is how crunchy chords sound with it. Very evenly balanced as far as tone, no muddy bass, just perfect. It also sounds great with all my amps and all my guitars.

[TheLemon]

Gut shots? :)

[erksin]

Dude, with all due respect, I think any 6 year old would be in way over his head with Sadie. On the other hand, my four year old daughter is very cool (and exotic -- adopted out of Kathmandu Nepal).

Just sayin...

I think most 26 year olds would be over their heads with Sadie. :roll

I don't envy you in ten years, Brett! :worried

[michael dukes]

I think most 26 year olds would be over their heads with Sadie. :roll

I don't envy you in ten years, Brett! :worried

Well put...

[Pappy]

I'm digging the soundclips... does it have enough gain to be the main distortion/overdrive pedal?

How does it compares with the BB preamp pedal?


The BB preamp has a lot more gain IMO and and a lot more mids and compression. The DLS is way more open and amp like. I should mention that I'm not a fan of the BB preamp so my opinions are definitely biased.

Regarding whether it could be your main pedal, it depends on what style music you play. It's a very dynamic pedal that is lot like playing through a British style amp that is distorting a bit. It can get enough gain for solos but I feel it's better if you set it up for a rhythm tone and then boost it for leads with a thicker sounding pedal with more mids. It still sounds good hitting it with a clean boost but the top end on the DLS is so open that it benefits from a middy boost for added solo girth. I just remembered, though, that the RAWK setting does have more mids, gain, and body to it so you could use that setting for a thicker sound (I live in the ROCK setting).

I had a gig at the Fillmore poster room last night and used it off & on throughout the night. This was a quieter semi-acoustic gig where I played electric guitar and lap steel. I easily got great lightly crunchy tones at volumes that were appropriate for the room. It was also perfect for lower gain solos that still needed a bit of sustain (I use the distortion side of a Teaser Stallion for thicker sounding distorted tones - great pedal as well). I tried it for slide and found that it sounded really good but may not have enough compression for some slide players. It felt more like playing slide through an AC30 that's cranked up a bit than something like a Super Reverb. I should mention that I was playing a Tele, though, so this would have sounded completely different with humbuckers.

It's a very cool pedal that I'm finding more & more uses for.

[Soundhound]

Glass? Anybody can play glass slide. It takes a real man to use a pound of squared-off aluminum!I think it would be bulky and hard to control. I'll probably just stick with a traditional glass slide.

TG