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tomkatzz
02-28-2009, 09:44 PM
I bought a new Gibson ES 335 from a Tulsa music store. I also own a Gibson Les Paul Standard and a Fender USA Strat, so I know it's not my imagination.

But the 335 won't get entirely "in tune," not like the LP or the Strat. Tonight I changed strings for the second time in two weeks, going up to 11s, and the 'G' string at the first fret is off. My Korg tuner shows it as going way past G#, but not quite to 'A.' But it's very noticeable.

I guess next week I'll take it back to the store and let their luthier look at it. I'm out of ideas.

dhdfoster
02-28-2009, 09:49 PM
The G nut slot might be too shallow. If that's the problem, go up to 11s might make it even worse.

Wally1
02-28-2009, 09:51 PM
I would bet that the nut slot on your G string is too high. Should be an easy fix. Gibson is known for not being very good at cutting the nut slots correctly. Take it to a good tech and have him check and recut all the nut slots and I'd bet this will solve your problem.

tomkatzz
02-28-2009, 09:52 PM
The G nut slot might be too shallow. If that's the problem, go up to 11s might make it even worse.

That makes sense. I guess I could just whip out the old rattail file, but I think I'll just let their guy look at it.

WahmBoomAh
02-28-2009, 09:56 PM
I guess I could just whip out the old rattail file, but I think I'll just let their guy look at it.
works for gibson

fumbler
02-28-2009, 09:57 PM
If it's WAY too sharp at the first fret then the slot could be cut at the wrong *angle*. The string is not coming off the "front" of the nut as it should. Do you hear any sitar-like twang when playing the G open?

Another $2000+ guitar with a badly cut nut. How come they can't get this right?

bugman
02-28-2009, 10:02 PM
i love gibsons have 4,and have had many others and dam the nuts are always bad,have two right now, but dont know a good tec who can cut a new bone nut

Jazzydave
03-01-2009, 12:39 AM
The problem? You bought a new Gibson. I hate to say it bc I'm such a huge Gibson player myself but the QC is so low right now I can't believe it.

I've picked up several high end Gibsons lately with issues right off the wall. IMHO, the only guitars that are getting some attention are the CS RIs (R7, R8, R9s, etc) and the '61 RI SG - even though the SG is a "production line" type guitar for them, its been pretty good over the last few years. I picked them up several times and loved them before finally getting mine and it may prove to be one of the best guitars I've owned.

tomkatzz
03-01-2009, 07:58 AM
I've picked up several high end Gibsons lately with issues right off the wall.

A good guitarist could have picked up this problem in the store. I'm a novice so it's taken me a couple of weeks. Like, "Wait. That sounds kind of strange."

And only after "studying" the guitar/issue for several weeks was I able to ascertain that it indeed had a problem.

shredtrash
03-01-2009, 10:14 AM
I just put Earvana nuts on my SG and LP and it corrected most of the intonation problems; and it's inexpensive. It's really a fantastic mod! If you're going to do this though, make sure a qualified tech does the job because if it's not done right, you're in the same boat as before.

Jazzydave
03-01-2009, 10:21 AM
A good guitarist could have picked up this problem in the store. I'm a novice so it's taken me a couple of weeks. Like, "Wait. That sounds kind of strange."

And only after "studying" the guitar/issue for several weeks was I able to ascertain that it indeed had a problem.

I've done this before too - the guitar is the right color, has the right tone, feel, etc and you get all excited and snatch it up only to get it home and realize it wasn't as hot as it was in the store.

Believe me, I've been though about 15 guitars in the last few months trying to find the "right" one. I ended up with a '61 SG RI that is just great all around...