Help me find an LP copy - Greco, LTD, Edwards?

[plexistack]

I'm in the market for an LP copy, good quality, but under $1000

Should I get an ESP EC-1000 for $550 or $600? Or go for the Edwards LP which I can get for $800?

Is it worth spending the extra $200? Or are these guitars so close I'll never know the difference?

What about Greco? Is this up to par with the rest? better? worse? there are some old 70's for sale.

[kherman]

YES!
It's worth spending the little extra for an Edwards.

The Edwards are closer in build quality to a ESP Standard (if not on par to) than to a LTD Deluxe.

[Austinrocks]

how about a gibson LP special, really love mine, the fakes are just fakes, mine wtih humbuckers was $535 new a few years ago at GC, so you can certainly get them used for what your willing to pay for a crap copy.

[JPF]

Mid-'80s Grecos can be very, very good.

[Stringz]

Tokai Love Rock, the ONLY Les Paul copy you'll ever need. Be sure you get a Japan made one,though,as they have been outsourcing in recent years.

[Acrobat]

Yeah, Tokai are really great guitars, but IMO the pickups are not very good, and you are better off changing them. Edwards, on the other side have very passable stock pickups.

[chucke99]

70s era Grecos. Hands down. Just do a search on "Greco" on eBay. Plenty to choose from, and even with shipping from Japan, well within your price range. Here's mine:

http://www.chucke.com/pics/eg500small.jpg

[sinner]

Agile is even cheaper but still very nicely done. Good construction and looks, and money left over for different electronics/pickups if you like. Check out the Rondo site if only to compare.

[shane88]

Esp

[telelion]

I have an early or mid eighties Burny Super Grade which is superior to any off the rack Gibson LP's I have come across in recent years up to several grand. Note that I owned two 68 SG's, a 61 SG(ouch), a mid 60's ES-335, and an 69 LP not to mention played some other real good ones. If you find a good old Japanese LP get it. They are still steals. I mean this Burny is really really good and I hear the earlier Tokai's an Grecos were better!

[_sjm_]

...a crap copy.
aaaahahaha

:horse

[mtlin]

Yeah, Tokai are really great guitars, but IMO the pickups are not very good, and you are better off changing them. Edwards, on the other side have very passable stock pickups.

My Tokai LS-360 came with Seymour Duncan Seth Lovers, which are great!

[kherman]

how about a gibson lp special, really love mine, the fakes are just fakes, mine wtih humbuckers was $535 new a few years ago at gc, so you can certainly get them used for what your willing to pay for a crap copy.




Ok. :NUTS

[8mileshigh]

My Korean Love Rock(2004) is a fantastic guitar and every bit as good as my friend's late 70's Les Paul custom. Cost me $625.00 CAD about 3 years ago but they appear to be no longer available in Canada.

Chris

[Telecster]

I have a Arbor that is outstanding.

[Joe324]

70s era Grecos. Hands down. Just do a search on "Greco" on eBay. Plenty to choose from, and even with shipping from Japan, well within your price range. Here's mine:

http://www.chucke.com/pics/eg500small.jpg

Zappa?

[soulohio]

ditto...and it didn't make one bit o difference changing the pickups to higherorders...

My Korean Love Rock(2004) is a fantastic guitar and every bit as good as my friend's late 70's Les Paul custom. Cost me $625.00 CAD about 3 years ago but they appear to be no longer available in Canada.

Chris

[musicofanatic5]

I had an Edwards, and it was simply okay. The p.u.s (Duncan) were horribly hot, and before I could change the p.u.s, I decided I couldn't look at that headstock anymore and dumped it.

I do like 70's-early eighties Greco, Burny and Tokai. Next best is Orville by Gibson or just plain Orville.

Agile, Arbor? Nah...

[plexistack]

I settled on an Edwards. I found a nice Nitro, long tennon, with JB/59 pups, '59 profile neck & body, flame tobacco burst in Japan. It took 4 days to arrive. I'm in awe. It's hard to make any comments because I'm wiping the tears from my eyes and the drool from my chin. I snapped a few pics.

http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv347/pokergambit/Picture001.jpg?t=1239313652http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv347/pokergambit/Picture002.jpg?t=1239313683http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv347/pokergambit/Picture003.jpg?t=1239313700

[SgtThump]

how about a gibson LP special, really love mine, the fakes are just fakes, mine wtih humbuckers was $535 new a few years ago at GC, so you can certainly get them used for what your willing to pay for a crap copy.

Let's not get carried away... Alot of the LP copies are FINE instruments in their own right. I owned an Edwards Jimmy Page model that was shockingly close to a friends Gibson R9.

I own and prefer my Gibson R8, though. But referring to the copies as "crap copy" is just snobbish.

[Telecster]

Have you played a Arbor? Bet not and that is fine cause keeps the price down. I'd put my Arbor up against any Burny, Greco or Tokai..As far as that goes it would stand it's own against a Gibson

[musicofanatic5]

I have a Arbor that is outstanding.

Pics, or I'll do something to raise the prices or something like that

Here's the 'Dward I had for a minute:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t195/musicofanatic/PB030007.jpg

[gill]

I know the Arbors were made in Japan and I think some later came from Korea. There's an MIJ one on ebay now. I also see some MIJ Memphis guitars on ebay now;
I remember them as pretty crappy Korean guitars in the 80's.

How many Guitar factories are in Japan anyway? I know there was Fugi Gen, Matsumko (probably spelling these wrong) and Terrada...

[Telecster]

I beleive my Arbor is from Korea. It is a fantastic guitar. Not to mention the cost.
Just a minor set up and new strings and it is unreal.

[gill]

Korean (and Chinese for that matter) guitar production has come a looong way in the last few years. Hell I can remember when Japanese copies were junk in the 70's. I don't remember seeing decent ones till the late 70's /early 80's.

[Telecster]

Correction the Arbor is Chinese

[bbarnard]

I do like 70's-early eighties Greco, Burny and Tokai. Next best is Orville by Gibson or just plain Orville.

My Orville LP Special with P90s is for sale in the emporium. Excellent guitar.

[plexistack]

I played my new Edwards last night at rehearsal. I have good and bad feelings about it.

The good part is that it's awesome looking, lightweight, the neck feels superb, the guitar seems to resonate perfectly, feedback is easily controlled even while using the neck pickup, the tuners are a pleasure to use. I'm still pretty blown away by the guitar as a whole.

The bad part is that the JB in the bridge is freakishly hot, lacks definition, bite, and note clarity. So it's really the bridge pickup I'm not happy with (duncan '59 in the neck) rather than anything about the guitar. The tuners are awesome, everything about this guitar is just great except for that JB.

I have a few other pups I can stick in there, but I might just get a nice 9k Fralin PAF and be done with it.

[BeowulfKingsley]

Another vote for Agiles...I have several and they're very very nice guitars! Hardware is great, woodworking fantastic...I've been pondering on switching out the pickups, although the stocks are pretty good. Perhaps a bit overwound for my tastes. At $219 new (for the AL 2000s on ebay) that's pretty hard to beat.

[indravayu]

I don't like the stock pickups and electronics in Edwards - they are not bad, but not to my taste - mine sounds much, much better with handwired PAF clones and Sprague tone caps.