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jcmark611
04-17-2009, 04:37 PM
Ge or Si? I've seen reports of both, someone settle this once and for all.

TIA.

Brian Maestro
04-17-2009, 06:03 PM
Diaz Texas Squareface

Originally designed as a more reliable replacement for Stevie Ray Vaughan's fuzz face, the Diaz Texas Square Face Fuzz has plenty of vibe of its own. Cesar Diaz built his circuit into one of SRV's dead fuzz face boxes and Stevie used it for the rest of his life. The production model features sturdy metal construction, on/off button, volume control, and fuzz control.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Diaz-Texas-Squareface-Fuzz?sku=151060

wingwalker
04-17-2009, 06:10 PM
The production Square Faces were Ge stock but the trannys were in a socket and they came with 2 Si trannys as well for an Si fuzz or for a hybrid fuzz...

However I don't think SRV's Fuzz Face used NKT's...I was JUST watching ACL and on Tightrope he is CLEARLY using a Fuzz Face but it's a little grittier than an NKT...

Anybody have any more info????

jcmark611
04-17-2009, 06:17 PM
Diaz Texas Squareface

Originally designed as a more reliable replacement for Stevie Ray Vaughan's fuzz face, the Diaz Texas Square Face Fuzz has plenty of vibe of its own. Cesar Diaz built his circuit into one of SRV's dead fuzz face boxes and Stevie used it for the rest of his life. The production model features sturdy metal construction, on/off button, volume control, and fuzz control.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Diaz-Texas-Squareface-Fuzz?sku=151060


So is that a Ge or Si fuzz?

keefsdad
04-17-2009, 06:30 PM
Didn't he use Tube Screamers most of the time?

todd richman
04-17-2009, 06:31 PM
He also used various Fuzz Faces and the aforementioned Texas Square Face. He supposedly only used TS808, TS-9 and TS-10's for clean boost and did not run a lot of gain.

Brian Maestro
04-17-2009, 06:38 PM
The square face is NPN not PNP..it comes with two germaniums but it has transistor sockets and two silicon's are included for more gain. They can also be combined, for different tones. Changing positions will also help!! You can really hear it on the SRV album "IN STEP"...cesar...

http://www.stringsandbeyond.com/ceditesqfafu.html

Mooncusser
04-17-2009, 06:42 PM
This might be interesting for you:
http://www.uberproaudio.com/content/view/162/38/
Enjoy!

jcmark611
04-17-2009, 07:28 PM
Thanks, it's as clear as mudd now:))

cerebralpaul
04-18-2009, 08:43 AM
someone settle this once and for all.


Yeah ok, cuz we all hung around chatting transistors with SRV ;)

Here's what I know: I have a Texas Square Face that I bought from Cesar in the early 90's- it has Ge trannies and as others have said it included Si trannies that you could install yourself for experimentation(I never did). The main thing you need to know is, this is NOT a straight-up Fuzz Face clone like the Sun Face or the '69 pedal, Cesar added a doodad or two to the circuit so it sounds hotter than a typical Ge FF- to me it sounds somewhere inbetween a Ge and Si version like many of the other hybrid-ized FF clones out there. That said, none of the ones I've tried sound EXACTLY the same as the Square Face. This one sounds a little more... Texas? ;)

Hope that helps.

wingwalker
04-18-2009, 08:55 AM
Im gonna dig my copy of IN STEP today and listen again...I haven't listened to that album in a while...on ACL it's very responseive like a Ge FF and cleans up pretty well but it's also a little spitty sounding at points too...

fuzzface71
04-18-2009, 10:08 AM
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r240/collinsford/srvPedalboard.jpg

dalandan
04-18-2009, 10:18 AM
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r240/collinsford/srvPedalboard.jpg

i have this saved on my computer and i never figured out what the pedal between the tubescreamer and wah was.

fuzzface71
04-18-2009, 10:46 AM
i have this saved on my computer and i never figured out what the pedal between the tubescreamer and wah was.

The selector switch for his amp?

JimiB
04-18-2009, 10:51 AM
its a fender reverb/trem switch

VegaBaby
04-18-2009, 02:18 PM
In the list linked above they clearly forgot to mention TS10s which he used very regularly. If you look at the picture above, you can clearly see one on his board as well...

Mapleneck
04-18-2009, 02:39 PM
The earliest Square Faces did not have sockets. They only came with NTE 103 Ge trannies. They were NPN as pointed out before. The circuit is pretty much a straight on fuzz face clone. It has a bigger output resistor (some used to call this the Hendrix mod) which gave it more output volume. The gain came from the NTE trannies. The old square face I have is very similar in gain to my MJM Londons, but not as dark. Very raspy when cranked. The old standard non-NKT Analogman Sunfaces used NTE 102's (the PNP version) and supposedly sound similar as well.

wingwalker
04-18-2009, 02:55 PM
The earliest Square Faces did not have sockets. They only came with NTE 103 Ge trannies. They were NPN as pointed out before. The circuit is pretty much a straight on fuzz face clone. It has a bigger output resistor (some used to call this the Hendrix mod) which gave it more output volume. The gain came from the NTE trannies. The old square face I have is very similar in gain to my MJM Londons, but not as dark. Very raspy when cranked. The old standard non-NKT Analogman Sunfaces used NTE 102's (the PNP version) and supposedly sound similar as well.

Very nice!

Thank you!

gillibi
04-18-2009, 05:22 PM
its a fender reverb/trem switch

Close, it's the on/off, slow/fast switch for the Fender Vibratone(Leslie).