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ArcNSpark
04-27-2009, 10:59 AM
38 yrs old and listen to a large cross section of music.
Rock, hard rock and metal. Old and new school jazz and blues.
bluegrass and folkie stuff.

And I will always love Vai, Satch, Gilbert ,Lynch, Sheehan etc.

The technical abilities these guys have will always blow me away.
Plus if you look beyond that ability there is a passion, originality,
and williness to take risks that is what great music should be all about.

just thought i'd share that...........

eBay
04-27-2009, 11:06 AM
Man, I'm so not into it but my long time friend is and he's been studying the Michael Angel Batio DVD and turning me onto all the techniques and my speed has literally doubled in about two months. I can now do ripping runs where I pick every note. I'm sounding like one of those classical guys who can push into the strings and accelerate up or down a scale. I work my feel too so that it isn't just gymnastics but ties to musical expressiveness. It's been awesome.

Thank you shredmeisters for refining advanced techniques for speed and fluidity.

GAD
04-27-2009, 12:24 PM
I'm with you. I love slow tasty blues and jazz, and I also love shred.

GAD

hcole
04-27-2009, 12:26 PM
I'm not into it but good for you. This would be a crazy boring world if everyone was interested in the same stuff.

Noah
04-27-2009, 12:44 PM
38 yrs old and listen to a large cross section of music.
Rock, hard rock and metal. Old and new school jazz and blues.
bluegrass and folkie stuff.

And I will always love Vai, Satch, Gilbert ,Lynch, Sheehan etc.

The technical abilities these guys have will always blow me away.
Plus if you look beyond that ability there is a passion, originality,
and williness to take risks that is what great music should be all about.

just thought i'd share that...........

The only one on your list that actually makes "shred" music is Paul Gilbert. Guys like Rusty Cooley, Andy James, Michael Angelo, Marshall Harrison, Jeff Loomis, Brett Garsed, Michael Romeo, Joe Stump, Conrad Simon, Mario Parga, and Shane Gibson play really shreddy music. Those guys all have advanced technique. Personally I can't take very much of that type of music anymore and I'm an old school shred guy that learned to play from guys like Macalpine, Jason Becker, and Vinnie Moore.

Luke
04-27-2009, 12:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cocwoUq4pcs&feature=channel_page

jazzandmetal?
04-27-2009, 12:52 PM
The only one on your list that actually makes "shred" music is Paul Gilbert. Guys like Rusty Cooley, Andy James, Michael Angelo, Marshall Harrison, Jeff Loomis, Brett Garsed, Michael Romeo, Joe Stump, Conrad Simon, Mario Parga, and Shane Gibson play really shreddy music. Those guys all have advanced technique. Personally I can't take very much of that type of music anymore and I'm an old school shred guy that learned to play from guys like Macalpine, Jason Becker, and Vinnie Moore.

Becker is/was insane on guitar. The Raspberry Jams cd has a great rendintion of "When You Wish Upon on a Star" that is tasteful and full of "shred" at the same time. My favorite playing by Becker.

Kotzen is another "shredder" who has transcended "shred" music but still plays with a good feel and some flash.

I am not that into guitar player music like I was when I was younger. Some of the guys actually had songs to go along with their flashy solos....Vai, Satch, James Murphy....but I can't get into Rusty Cooleys cd for the life of me...although his technique floors me.

Guthrie Govans "Erotic Cakes" cd is on the border for me. Some of the songs are great....some not so much. I think that is why I like guys like Chris Poland. Good songs surrounding the killer guitar playing that is going on.

Shine
04-27-2009, 12:53 PM
Gilbert and Govan for me, the other ones are meh.

GAD
04-27-2009, 01:29 PM
I don't know how many of you were around when shred was big, but these guys were gods among men in the 80s. You have to remember that the world had never seen anything like these guys. It was pretty much Clapton, Paige, Gilmour and a few others, then the 80s happened. Van Halen ushered in a new wave of players and we all practiced furiously to try and keep up.

Today it's easy to say "Shred sucks" and to dismiss an entire genre, but man back then it was IT. Everyone was out trying to learn classical and buying dayglo guitars.

GAD

Jazzydave
04-27-2009, 01:30 PM
Me too.

Jason Becker is amazing. I say "is" instead of "was" bc he still writes some amazing music for Broadway and other places. I have a documentary on him that I downloaded a few years ago - what an incredible talent.

hot lava mike
04-27-2009, 01:41 PM
Shred isn't in me, but there is certainly a lot to learn and appreciate about it.

americananalog
04-27-2009, 01:41 PM
For me, true shred is Neil Schon, Phil Collen, John Sykes and Gary Moore. These guys still sound relevent (to me anyway) because for them shred serves the song.
Not to dis Vai, Macalpine, Yngwie, etc., but I can't listen to long guitar instrumentals anymore. Yet I can still listen to the solo from "Sister Christian" and never tire of it.
BTW - what happened to Rowan Robertson?

jazzandmetal?
04-27-2009, 01:55 PM
For anyone who doesn't read Premier Guitar Magazine, here is a great article on "Shred" by Greg Howe.
http://digital.premierguitar.com/premierguitar/200904_1/?fm=2


You have to go to search and search Greg Howe.


Not sure how to copy the direct link.

blood5150
04-27-2009, 02:09 PM
To me some guys treat playing guitar as a sporting event... Cooley, Batio,Petrucci, Loomis..

Some guys make music with shred guitar... Becker, Vai, Gilbert, Shawn Lane, Holdsworth

JMO....

Glide
04-27-2009, 02:45 PM
I love shred.......... there I said it!

Who gives a F*&K what you love, and whether you went ahead and said it or not?


...Tee Hee!

J/K

:)

Lance
04-27-2009, 03:03 PM
Yep, if it were not for Mike Varney, I probably would never have even heard of half of the guys I was really into. I don't listen to this stuff very often, but when I do, it really takes me back. Oh, I did put HS-3's in my strat. Yes, sometimes I go totally apeshit, and just blast Yngwie sounding stuff all over my bedroom walls. Ewww, that sounds much nastier than it is, in reality. LOL!! I do not jerkoff to Yngwie posters!!!!!

I REPEAT. I DO NOT JERKOFF TO YNGIWE POSTERS!!!!

:roll:rotflmao:roll:rotflmao:roll:rotflmao:roll:ro tflmao

ahardmark
04-27-2009, 11:07 PM
I'm a big fan of Paul Gilbert. Sure, he doesn't have the greatest tone (IMO), but his sense of humor and pure love of the guitar are really inspiring, even though the music I play isn't anything like his stuff. It's great to see someone who is still so excited and enthusiastic about playing the guitar after all these years, past successes, etc. Makes me want to go practice.

johnston
04-27-2009, 11:16 PM
shred intrigued me for a little while in the 80's but i got real tired of it FAST. kept on checking out the latest/greatest/fastest every now and then over the years, but none of 'em grabbed me. then, i discovered guthrie govan a few years ago and he's about the only "shred" guy i could listen to and actually enjoy.

Andromeda
04-30-2009, 08:50 AM
Here are some of my favorite "shredders," of the era: though many have moved on to more calmer genres: Larry Mitchell, Greg Howe, Blues Saraceno, Tony Macalpine, Joey Tafolla and Michael Lee Firkins.

Larry is phenominal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4jJ_ELMdeY&feature=PlayList&p=86955A43C829E664&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=52

Polynitro
04-30-2009, 09:08 AM
I can listen to Yngwie and Paul Gilbert all day...OK maybe not all day, not even more than 1 hour but for that 1 hour I still love it.

PosterBoy
04-30-2009, 09:08 AM
This impressed me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PIiuQp_Fgc

korby
04-30-2009, 09:43 AM
If you love shred you might like this . http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=543164
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa133/richardkorby/004-15.jpg

eliot1025
04-30-2009, 11:40 AM
I was bored by shred before there was a name for it. It still bores me.

Lucidology
04-30-2009, 05:14 PM
Shred can sound as good as anything else ...
It's just sort of sad that the word "Shred" is even used to describe someone's playing ...

Always dislike reading: the guy really can play but he would sound a lot better playing less notes ..
If someone sounds recognizably good (musical) playing a lot of notes, ,
why offer an alternative even though you obviously prefer a different approach ..?

Joe Gamble
04-30-2009, 06:28 PM
If you love shred you might like this . http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=543164
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa133/richardkorby/004-15.jpg
Dooood!!! The Dana Scoop!!! My crass friends always remarked that they made it that way so you could play your guitar with your.... well... um... you know...


BTW, I love shred. Always have, always will. Just like I love Bulgarian Folk Music, Scriabin, Louis Armstrong, KRS-One and Kraftwerk. Here's some insane wankage I've been digging- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NV7HAnyo0I

Broken Cord
04-30-2009, 07:01 PM
You need to check out Ed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkt75mImIKg

iamdavea
05-01-2009, 12:14 AM
I've spent more time listening to shred than I have Hendrix, with no regrets. Back in the mid 80s/early 90s, Shrapnel was releasing one KILLER CD after another. I'd say the glory period was between Racer X's "Second Heat" all the way through to the release of Michael Lee Firkins' debut, and then including every album that Greg Howe has put out. Howe, for me, is Mike Varney's greatest discovery. I've tried to listen to some of the newer guys, like Rusty Cooley, but find them completely tasteless. And I second the opinion of the earlier poster who likes Joey Tafolla; his "Out of The Sun" album contains some remarkably fluid and beguiling playing.

Mudder
05-03-2009, 08:35 AM
I really enjoy Paul Gilbert, especially how his music has progressed to now. I only recently got into Tony MacAlpine, and I really like his work, and that he can shred on guitar and piano. I've got Maximum Security on constant rotation right now.

waylay00
05-03-2009, 10:04 AM
I'm a really big fan of players who can "shred" and do it in a tasteful context. For instance, as much as I love Schenker, Vinnie Moore is also great in UFO. He holds back most of the time, but then unleashes a fury of notes right when the song most needs it. It makes the song that much more interesting. Other good examples of players like this would be DeMartini, Shawn Lane, Steve Morse, Paul Gilbert in a Mr. Big/solo situation, Ritchie Kotzen, etc...

But as far as those guys who use whole songs as vehicles to play as many notes as possible, I can only listen to them in breaks. I am a huge Malmsteen fan, but after three or four songs, I have to take a break. But I still love his playing. :D

It just sickens me to see someone say, "shredders bore me." That's just a vague, blanket statement that really can't be assessed.

Yngtchie
05-03-2009, 10:08 AM
I enjoy listening to it, as well as playing it. Some of my favourite albums:

Yngwie Malmsteen - Rising Force, Marching Out & Trilogy
Vinnie Moore - Mind's Eye, Time Odyssey & The Maze
Tony MacAlpine - Maximum Security, Freedom to Fly & Premonition
Racer X - Second Heat(Racer X), Live Extreme 1 & 2

There are dozens of others, but those are my faves.