Please school me on buying a Boomerang plus.

[odd]

Is it the best at the price point? Just need a simple, completely reliable looper.

[popthree]

boomerang + is great...but.. it has 1 downfall for me.. it doesn't allow 'undo' which means if you flub a layer..say 3 layers in.. you have to start over. is it the best at the price point ? i suppose that depends on what you intend to do with it. if you like the ability to create loops live, with only your feet touching the looping device, the boomerang is really nice... it is very intuitive and easy to control. i had one and loved it dearly except that it is hampered by the lack of 'undo'. i sold it in preparation for the Rang III which I hope and pray will be released with pre-production software very soon.

before i had a Rang, i owned an Akai Headrush II. this is a great looper that does have undo. but it is hampered by a very limited loop time. if you want overdubs to your initial loop, you only have about 17.5 seconds of loop time. i loved the Akai but kept running into that 17 second wall...

i've tried the Digitech JamMan and the Boss efforts and they are not for me. some guys love them. i found them clumsy compared to the Rang.

others i will consider if the Rang III doesn't materialize very soon are the Maneco devices and of course, the EH 2880 + foot controller

[odd]

Thanks for your input. The lack of 'undo' is a bummer. Is this so with all the Boomerang versions (except possibly for the upcoming)? What's the diff. of the 'plus' and regular model? I honestly couldn't tell from their website.

I've been looking at alternatives too, esp. the Akai and the Boss RC-20. Might end up with one of those, but as you say the 17s limit for the Akai is on the short side and the RC-20 seems somewhat clumsy; lotsa functionality that I don't need and some give it less than stellar marks for sound.

OTOH, I don't wanna wait much more for the Boomerang III...

Any more advice mucho appreciated.

[BadMelonFarmer]

It is a odd time for loopers at the moment, there seems to be pros and cons on all devices and I have not seen a device that you would not have to compromise a feature or two.

the ones I have tried are:-

Boss RC-20XL - did not like it at all
EH Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai - not for me, just could not get on with it others love it.
Eventide TimeFactor - I still have this and love the delay side of it, but the looper function is not all that great.
Line 6 JM4 - I have the Spider Jam amp, which is the same as the JM4 but in an amp form. It's a keeper, but depends if you want the POD functionality it brings to the table. For my live rig I do not need the pod features as I have a Pod X3.

I am another of the "Waiting for the Rang III" crowd.

as I do not think there is anything to touch it so far.

[odd]

It is a odd time for loopers at the moment, there seems to be pros and cons on all devices and I have not seen a device that you would not have to compromise a feature or two.

the ones I have tried are:-

Boss RC-20XL - did not like it at all
EH Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai - not for me, just could not get on with it others love it.
Eventide TimeFactor - I still have this and love the delay side of it, but the looper function is not all that great.
Line 6 JM4 - I have the Spider Jam amp, which is the same as the JM4 but in an amp form. It's a keeper, but depends if you want the POD functionality it brings to the table. For my live rig I do not need the pod features as I have a Pod X3.

I am another of the "Waiting for the Rang III" crowd.

as I do not think there is anything to touch it so far.

What didn't you like about the RC-20?

[BadMelonFarmer]

What didn't you like about the RC-20?

for me, it was the way the switches worked, as there was only 2 switches you had to press one quickly for this function and hold it for a few seconds for another function. and if you wanted to do something else you had to press both pedals at the same time. :huh

that is just an example of clearing the loop and then starting and over dubing - IIRC

sound wise it was fine.

[odd]

for me, it was the way the switches worked, as there was only 2 switches you had to press one quickly for this function and hold it for a few seconds for another function. and if you wanted to do something else you had to press both pedals at the same time. :huh

that is just an example of clearing the loop and then starting and over dubing - IIRC

sound wise it was fine.

Sounds like a hassle. And no undo either? That would leave the Akai as sole runner at this point.

[BadMelonFarmer]

to be honest i can not remember if it did or didn't have an umdoo function. the jm4 does, so that would be worth checking out too

[odd]

to be honest i can not remember if it did or didn't have an umdoo function. the jm4 does, so that would be worth checking out too

My religion forbids the use of Line6 products. It's a very strict dogma.

[popthree]

i messed with a JM4. it has some nasty menus that take it out of the 'simple to use' category for me

[BadMelonFarmer]

My religion forbids the use of Line6 products. It's a very strict dogma.

Ahhh, yes! I am of a similar faith the one about Berhinger being of cloven-hoof.

[BadMelonFarmer]

i messed with a JM4. it has some nasty menus that take it out of the 'simple to use' category for me

I thought that at first, but as long as you are doing some simple stuff and not doing some odd routing. then it is not as bad as it first seems.

that is coming from someone who hates those sorts of menus.

But I do know what ya mean.