What do you think of Tattoos??

[dongrammar]

My little (19) bro is dead set on getting some kind of japanese half sleave.

I'm trying to persuade him otherwise but it's pretty hard seeing as i've got most of my arm done!

What's the general perception these days? bare in mind he's not a musician.

[ThugLife]

i've got 5. if he's getting the upper half I'd say no biggie. My rule of thumb for non musicians is make sure you can cover it up with clothing if needed. Other than that, make sure it's something that you're gonna want when you're 70

[nitehawk55]

Tasteful ones are OK but definately should be able to cover them up with a T-shirt

[DaveF]

I've been wanting to get a giant sailboat on my chest.

[Luke]

It really depends on the line of work he will pursue. There are corporate outings where you will have to take your shirt off.

With all the TV shows about tattoos these days combine with all the athletes being covered, you have to ask yourself when will this trend end and become the anti-trend like Winger suffered from Beavis and Butthead?

Keep in mind anything that is SO IN STYLE TODAY will be equally so out of style eventually.

[DaveF]

There are corporate outings where you will have to take your shirt off.

really?

[big mike]

i've got 5. if he's getting the upper half I'd say no biggie. My rule of thumb for non musicians is make sure you can cover it up with clothing if needed. Other than that, make sure it's something that you're gonna want when you're 70

Sound advice.

[big mike]

It really depends on the line of work he will pursue. There are corporate outings where you will have to take your shirt off.

With all the TV shows about tattoos these days combine with all the athletes being covered, you have to ask yourself when will this trend end and become the anti-trend like Winger suffered from Beavis and Butthead?

Keep in mind anything that is SO IN STYLE TODAY will be equally so out of style eventually.


I liked them better before they were flavor of the week.

[Curt]

I'm not sure I'd to see a tattoo that said "Property of the Hells Angels" on my wife's butt, but other than that, most tattoo's are ok.

[big mike]

My friend got drunk during a weekend at specialty school in the Army.
Apparently there's 'USDA PRIME' tattoo'd just above...um... something.

I'm going to take his word for it.

[S-L-A-C-K-E-R]

I got one. I was kind of talked into it by my wife and her brothers. I've never really had a deep desire to get one. I probably shouldn't have gotten it. I don't particularly like it. It's really no big deal though. It's a guitar on my shoulder blade. No one ever sees it anyway. That'll be my last one.

[Suproman77]

I never saw a reason to ever get a tattoo and I often question the motives of those who do. To me, it ranks right up there with every other fad that kids sucker each other into getting involved in...only this one is not so easy to walk away from. That's not to say it's the ONLY reason why people get one, because it isn't, but I think people should consider their image and their futures a little more before getting one.

[Dr. Tweedbucket]

Never really wanted one :dunno

[StompBoxBlues]

Some people love having them. It's personal. I don't see the attraction. Specially later in life when you realize how your taste changes...things you thought were really amazingly cool when you were 22, at 35 (or 50) often seem trite, stupid, tasteless, or just unappealing.

On top of that, they are so common nowdays, it isn't all that distinctive unless you are going all "Illustrated Man" or need a map of a prison on your back so you can break out (but...if they do remodelling, additions, you will have to go back for updates to the tattoo parlor)...

[lcjc800]

I have 3, I got my first on my 50th birthday, after I retired.

[pickaguitar]

There are corporate outings where you will have to take your shirt off.


:huh

:dunno

[mark norwine]

I like the idea of getting a tattoo, but 4 things stop me:

- It would really, really upset my mom. She's 80. I see no need to upset her.
- I have no idea what I'd get. If it doesn't mean something really special to me, why bother?
- I have no idea where I'd put one.
- My compulsive personality....within a year of the first needle prick, I'd probably look like Dickey Betts....

I think it best if I admire tattoos from afar.

[Atmospheric]

YMMV...

In most cases, it tells me some things about the person, and not the things you might suspect.

It's right up there with cigarette smoking in that I usually know that the person is very susceptible to peer pressure to the point that they will do something like this just to "belong."

It's an epidemic in this country. People want to belong to something at any price.

Personally, I'm all about being "edgy" with what's between my ears, not by my haircut, clothes, ink or hardware dangling off my body.

I've always loved this quote:

"Getting a tattoo is like sewing platform shoes on your feet." -anonymous

[pickaguitar]

I want tattoos...but

a. I can't afford one
b. Don't know what I want to live with
c. I'm not living the dream with a frickin kick arse rock band

If I get that band...I promise to get covered in tats :)

[Darth Tater]

It really depends on the line of work he will pursue. There are corporate outings where you will have to take your shirt off.



Yes. We call those outings PRISON.

[Frankee]

I got mine as a souvenier of my 19 month stay in Japan (3/4 sleeves). A few years after coming home I noticed the increase in popularuty among the "straight crowd". (Big eyebuster tattoos were commonplace where I grew up....but most definitely not in the Irezumi style.) I found myself wishing for the trend to wane among the mainstreem folks. But it doesn't really bother me. It's a cultural thing with me....and I'm not one to give a shit what other people do or think anyways.

[A.Pulverizer]

When I see ink, I think trailer trash.

[Flyin' Brian]

I thought he was an ok guy....what......oh....never mind.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h159/brian329/tatoo.jpg

[Tibbonds]

When I see ink, I think trailer trash.
How very open minded of you.

The problem with tattoos is not the wearer, but the onlooker. If someone sees a tattooed person and instantly thinks 'trailer trash', 'criminal', 'slut', or thinks that the only possible reason the wearer got tattooed is because of peer pressure, that's a pretty sad state of affairs, and it shows the onlooker to be judgemental and intolerant.

Do these same people see a black man and think 'criminal', or a person of Arab descent and think 'terrorist'? In some case yes, but often not. Because generalisations based on skin colour are really not cool. At all.

So why is it ok to judge people for having multi-coloured skin?

[MudPies]

Nice to know we're being judged by the Plain Folk.

[fazendeiro]

How very open minded of you.

The problem with tattoos is not the wearer, but the onlooker. If someone sees a tattooed person and instantly thinks 'trailer trash', 'criminal', 'slut', or thinks that the only possible reason the wearer got tattooed is because of peer pressure, that's a pretty sad state of affairs, and it shows the onlooker to be judgemental and intolerant.

Do these same people see a black man and think 'criminal', or a person of Arab descent and think 'terrorist'? In some case yes, but often not. Because generalisations based on skin colour are really not cool. At all.

So why is it ok to judge people for having multi-coloured skin?
Maybe the same reason you judged A. Pulverizer by jumping to so many conclusions from his one statement. Sheesh.

[Luke]

You do not choose your ethnicity.

Often you hear people say things like, "I have 6 tats now and plan for more when I get save some money".

I just question if these savings a pre or post maxing out their 401k and paying off their mortgage and having enough in their kids 529 to cover college costs.

Or they will say "if I only had $300" I'd get such and such a tattoo. I think to myself, "if I only had $300 I'd commit suicide".

How very open minded of you.

The problem with tattoos is not the wearer, but the onlooker. If someone sees a tattooed person and instantly thinks 'trailer trash', 'criminal', 'slut', or thinks that the only possible reason the wearer got tattooed is because of peer pressure, that's a pretty sad state of affairs, and it shows the onlooker to be judgemental and intolerant.

Do these same people see a black man and think 'criminal', or a person of Arab descent and think 'terrorist'? In some case yes, but often not. Because generalisations based on skin colour are really not cool. At all.

So why is it ok to judge people for having multi-coloured skin?

[prsflame]

I enjoy looking at tatoos on other people, and appreciate the artistry that goes into creating them. I'm always interested in hearing the meaning behind a certain piece, and what life event prompted someone to get a certain design, etc. If I worked in a less conservative profession, I would probably have a few myself.

[Tibbonds]

Not really. The guy made a moronic comment that, unless was meant in jest, literally proves his closed mindedness.

To judge someone based on appearance, skin colour, height, weight, or whatever, is nothing but pure speculation. A complete stab in the dark that you have any idea whatsoever what that person is about.

[Tibbonds]

You do not choose your ethnicity.

That's true, but my point still remains - that it's a little foolish to assume anything about anyone because of their appearance.

[MudPies]

Luke, are you really using the spending argument on a guitar forum?

:)

[Suproman77]

That's true, but my point still remains - that it's a little foolish to assume anything about anyone because of their appearance.

And yet, everyone does it all day every day. I guess all humans are just stupid....or maybe, if one knows that others will look at them a certain way for how they dress, wear their hair, etc and don't like that, they should think twice about doing it?

Just saying...

[fazendeiro]

Not really. The guy made a moronic comment that, unless was meant in jest, literally proves his closed mindedness.

To judge someone based on appearance, skin colour, height, weight, or whatever, is nothing but pure speculation. A complete stab in the dark that you have any idea whatsoever what that person is about.
The exact thing you did to A. Pulverizer, judging him on his one comment. You don't have a clue how he feels about all that other stuff you mentioned, a "complete stab in the dark" by you. How very open minded you are.

[Chuck Snider]

I find it quite refreshing when a gal doesn't have tattoos......

[Flavum]

I've always loved this quote:

"Getting a tattoo is like sewing platform shoes on your feet." -anonymous

I'm reminded of a dermatologist who specializes in tattoo removal with the motto:

"Tattoos - that permanent reminder of a temporary feeling".

[pickaguitar]

I dig chicks with tats!

[Bones]

I have a few and they represent something that is very important to me, they are not meant for others to have an opinion on.

However, if my bloated,nude body was washed up on some deserted beach, if nothing else, those tattoos would let those who found me know one thing about me as a person.

And that thing is, I really like "Hello Kitty'.

[Hamertoe]

I agree with those that view it as a significant symbol representing an emotional or monumental landmark in their life. As a fashion trend which it has largely become I don't see any sense in it.

To each his own, I don't want one but I admire those that have tasteful art on their bodies. Gawdy and large doesn't do it for me but if you like it go for it.

So many middle aged women tell me about the tattoo they're going to get it's creepy. OK, I can see you have enough sense not to get a belly button ring but a tattoo won't make you 20 again either.

[Fred Farkus]

There are corporate outings where you will have to take your shirt off.


Not where I work...

[cry of love]

I agree with those that view it as a significant symbol representing an emotional or monumental landmark in their life. As a fashion trend which it has largely become I don't see any sense in it.

To each his own, I don't want one but I admire those that have tasteful art on their bodies. Gawdy and large doesn't do it for me but if you like it go for it.

So many middle aged women tell me about the tattoo they're going to get it's creepy. OK, I can see you have enough sense not to get a belly button ring but a tattoo won't make you 20 again either.

+1000 on your avatar, Hamertoe!:cool:

[Bones]

Not where I work...


I work in construction and I can't remember the last time I saw my co-workers without their shirts on.

[stratzrus]

I'm not sure I'd to see a tattoo that said "Property of the Hells Angels" on my wife's butt...You must be as old as I am to rember that...:roll

I think tatoos are a personal decision. FWIW I'm, on the whole, fine with the way I look without ink.

My money would be better spent hiring a personal trainer if I was that concerned about my appearance.

[Polynitro]

There are corporate outings where you will have to take your shirt off.


Hooters, Inc.

[MudPies]

I've got some attractive coworkers. I wouldn't mind seeing some of them with their shirt off.

:p

Really though, what kind of corporate outing would require anyone remove clothing? I'd love to see how that one is enforced.

[hogy]

With all the TV shows about tattoos these days combine with all the athletes being covered, you have to ask yourself when will this trend end and become the anti-trend like Winger suffered from Beavis and Butthead?



I think that has already happened. Tattoos are like stone washed jeans you can never take off again. Totally played out and a bit embarrassing at this point.

That said, I don't care if people have them or get them. Whatever floats their sailboat.

[Luke]

I've got some attractive coworkers. I wouldn't mind seeing some of them with their shirt off.

:p

Really though, what kind of corporate outing would require anyone remove clothing? I'd love to see how that one is enforced.

Perhaps HAVE To is being too strictly thought of here.

White water rafting trip, get soaked and have the option of remaining drenched or changing to a dry shirt.

Basketball shirts versus skins game

Nothing screams individuality and sincerity like a a tribal arm band or tramp stamp, barbed wired biceps or Taz.

[Polynitro]

White water rafting trip, get soaked and have the option of remaining drenched or changing to a dry shirt.


Ah, like Deliverance...(cue Banjos)

[Uma Floresta]

Sleeve tattoos never look good, IMO. In fact, I've only seen maybe one or two individual tats in my life that looked good enough to actually justify their existence. Most of them are tacky.

On a related note, I overheard an argument between a guy and his girlfriend yesterday, both heavily tattooed - the guy had tattoos all over his neck and hands - probably all over the arms too, but he had long sleeves.

Anyway, she was wanting him to stay home to do something or other, but he was saying he had to spend time looking for a job, that it was really hard to find a job. I felt very old, because I thought, "I wonder why you can't seem to find a job. It's a mystery!"

[Bob Longo]

I wouldn't put a bumpersticker on a Rolls

[dongrammar]

Here are some of the guys designs i've found online. I think the bro wants a dragon involved but i'm going to do everything i can to stop him! Some of these are nice though.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/81/l_5c2fe3e0fd38af897b8567a24ffb23ab.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/102/l_e4d63bc52b3cd3299497abe3dc83c01b.jpg

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/33/l_f1647dc27d7947e6bd14ee9e0fab8f96.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/63/l_4e31ec2ece0e441591f1666c34c6baa3.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/107/l_a814e808a3bdcdc359e18b08fc90ae3b.jpg

[Tibbonds]

That's some nice work. Looks like Stu Francis' work from Angelic Hell in the UK.

Who are they by?

The trick to getting a tattoo that's worth wearing is to research your artist, and be prepared to travel and wait. If an 'artist' has time to tattoo you there on the spot, there's probably a very good reason why. The good guys (and gals!) are often booked up anything between 3 months and 2 years in advance.

[pickaguitar]

The trick to getting a tattoo that's worth wearing is to research your artist, and be prepared to travel and wait. If an 'artist' has time to tattoo you there on the spot, there's probably a very good reason why. The good guys (and gals!) are often booked up anything between 3 months and 2 years in advance.

Just curious...how does one research a tattoo artist?
My guess is a magazine?

[Darkburst]

I like well done tattoos, though I don't have any myself. It still blows my mind that some people are so judgmental about other people having them though. There are a lot of people my age (35) and younger that have them. It's not like it's only bikers, ex-cons and sailors are the only people with them these days.

[Darkburst]

Just curious...how does one research a tattoo artist?
My guess is a magazine?

It's called 'the internet'. LOL!

[Strat]

Tell ANYone to at least consider the new ink that is easily removed with lasers called Freedom -2. WHile the color selection is small at the moment more a coming.

The ink is water soluble and encapuslated in a sphere that will be vaporized by laser energy leaving a completely invisible site. IT works great as my wife the dermatologist has already worked with a local tattoo artist in demonstrating the results for customers.





My little (19) bro is dead set on getting some kind of japanese half sleave.

I'm trying to persuade him otherwise but it's pretty hard seeing as i've got most of my arm done!

What's the general perception these days? bare in mind he's not a musician.

[Tibbonds]

Magazines are a good place to start, but I think in this day and age, Myspace is the ultimate resource.

You'll generally find that, for instance, an artist in Dallas Texas will likely have other artists from the same area on their top friends list, so jumping from profile to profile by looking at people's top friends lists is a great way of finding good (or bad) artists within a particular area.

It's worth noting that not all artists are good at every style. In fact even the cream of the crop are often only truly outstanding at one or two different styles. It'd be unusual to get a an amazing portrait artist who is also amazing at oldschool or Japanese, for instance. I think it's best to pick the right guy for the job each and every time, rather than going back to the same artist for every piece you get - unless of course you get pieces all within one style.

[pickaguitar]

It's called 'the internet'. LOL!
I guess to explain...I would not have any idea who is good versus who is just a regular artist to go to. I've heard of Ed Hardy...that's it :)


Magazines are a good place to start, but I think in this day and age, Myspace is the ultimate resource.

You'll generally find that, for instance, an artist in Dallas Texas will likely have other artists from the same area on their top friends list, so jumping from profile to profile by looking at people's top friends lists is a great way of finding good (or bad) artists within a particular area.

It's worth noting that not all artists are good at every style. In fact even the cream of the crop are often only truly outstanding at one or two different styles. It'd be unusual to get a an amazing portrait artist who is also amazing at oldschool or Japanese, for instance. I think it's best to pick the right guy for the job each and every time, rather than going back to the same artist for every piece you get - unless of course you get pieces all within one style.
Makes sense...thanks!

[Tibbonds]

Tell ANYone to at least consider the new ink that is easily removed with lasers called Freedom -2. WHile the color selection is small at the moment more a coming.

The ink is water soluble and encapuslated in a sphere that will be vaporized by laser energy leaving a completely invisible site. IT works great as my wife the dermatologist has already worked with a local tattoo artist in demonstrating the results for customers.

Colours can be mixed to create new shades, so a small colour selection is not a real issue.

The problem with this is that nobody worth going to would actually use this ink. The fact it's so easy to remove by laser likely also means the tattoo won't hold up as well over time.

The other side of it is that nobody should be getting tattooed if you think that one day you might like to have it removed. If you're not sure, wait it out.

[MudPies]

I'm proud of mine. One has deep meaning and one is just because I've always wanted a F hole on my leg (think fiddle/upright soundhole).

They will remind me of who I was at the time I received them.

[dongrammar]

That's some nice work. Looks like Stu Francis' work from Angelic Hell in the UK.

Who are they by?

The trick to getting a tattoo that's worth wearing is to research your artist, and be prepared to travel and wait. If an 'artist' has time to tattoo you there on the spot, there's probably a very good reason why. The good guys (and gals!) are often booked up anything between 3 months and 2 years in advance.

Yeah its Stu. Is he a respected artist? What do you think of that style?

[nnick]

Often you hear people say things like, "I have 6 tats now and plan for more when I get save some money".

I just question if these savings a pre or post maxing out their 401k and paying off their mortgage and having enough in their kids 529 to cover college costs.

Or they will say "if I only had $300" I'd get such and such a tattoo. I think to myself, "if I only had $300 I'd commit suicide".


You could easily substitute guitars or amps for tattoos in your statement and I bet many people on this forum wouldn't be so quick to negatively judge.

[Tibbonds]

Yeah its Stu. Is he a respected artist? What do you think of that style?

Good guess, huh?! hahaha

I 'know' Stu in so much as he frequents another forum I use, and I've met him a couple of times at conventions and stuff. He's a real nice guy, and a very talented artist. His Japanese work is definitely an acquired taste in so much as it's not very traditional, he's got his own modern slant on the style for sure. I personally really like it.

Can't go wrong with Stu.

Shall I presume you're looking for an artist in Brighton then? Or was Stu just a guy you randomly found on the net?

Brighton has a high oncentration of real talent, as far as tattooing goes. For Japanese style, als check out Lynn Akura at Magnum Opus, Ade at Nine, and Jason Mosseri at In2U. All great artists, and all have their own very recognisable style.

[Suproman77]

You could easily substitute guitars or amps for tattoos in your statement and I bet many people on this forum wouldn't be so quick to negatively judge.

They would...they just wouldn't say it to their face, in most instances, unless someone started a thread about it asking others if they thought it was a problem.

[Luke]

You could easily substitute guitars or amps for tattoos in your statement and I bet many people on this forum wouldn't be so quick to negatively judge.

True

HOWEVER, if one purchased a used guitar product they can most likely get out with 70% of their investment later.

[dongrammar]

Good guess, huh?! hahaha

I 'know' Stu in so much as he frequents another forum I use, and I've met him a couple of times at conventions and stuff. He's a real nice guy, and a very talented artist. His Japanese work is definitely an acquired taste in so much as it's not very traditional, he's got his own modern slant on the style for sure. I personally really like it.

Can't go wrong with Stu.

Shall I presume you're looking for an artist in Brighton then? Or was Stu just a guy you randomly found on the net?

Brighton has a high oncentration of real talent, as far as tattooing goes. For Japanese style, als check out Lynn Akura at Magnum Opus, Ade at Nine, and Jason Mosseri at In2U. All great artists, and all have their own very recognisable style.

:)

I'm not in Brighton but Stu is the guy my bro has gone in for a consultation with. He's probably in there right now actually.

I like Stu and Ades stuff the best right now, I might get the kid to visit Ade this week too.

Didn't realise Brighton had so much talent. Might have to pop down and get some work done also!

[Frankee]

When I see ink, I think trailer trash.

Many of Europe's crowned heads, past and present, sport(ed) some heavy ink.

[Washburnmemphis]

Many of Europe's crowned heads, past and present, sport(ed) some heavy ink.

They also tended to marry cousins and depend on others to support them.
But I don't think any owned a Double-wide

[fazendeiro]

They also tended to marry cousins and depend on others to support them.
But I don't think any owned a Double-wide
:roll:roll

[MudPies]

Those of us with tatts should keep them nice and visible from now on. Hopefully we can make the old farts (and the young keep-off-my-lawners) so uncomfortable that they won't leave their nice safe house.

[fazendeiro]

Those of us with tatts should keep them nice and visible from now on. Hopefully we can make the old farts (and the young keep-off-my-lawners) so uncomfortable that they won't leave their nice safe house.
Wow, what an outlaw rebel.

[OutterLimits]

I have had a G-Clef on my right hand ring finger since I was 19 ... never stopped me from getting a job ... but I agree, a large evil looking tatoo is best on the upper arm so it can be put out of sight if needed.

[Tonekat]

I would say make sure you are comfortable and secure with the concept.

As example, I'll cite two friends:

Friend one: around my age, a lot like me in certain ways, she has full color sleeves, both arms, and, I believe there are even more underneath her clothes. They're well done, brightly colored, and fun to look at, people come up to her thinking she's wearing a blouse.."oh, that's you!" I have never once heard her going into long diatribes to explain her motives for having them.

Then there's Friend Two: A younger (30s) married neighbor. Good guy, but sometimes tries a bit too hard to let everyone know he's "cool" and "anti-establishment". His ink does not approach that of friend One in terms of visibility or flamboyance, just a couple tribal things (I don't know the lingo) in dark ink on his thigh and upper arm partially concealed by short sleeve shirts and shorts. They look decently rendered.

Here's the difference: friend two is always going into some long detailed speech to justify his reasoning for having them, whether anyone asked or not.

Make of that what you will, do what you want, it's your body.

[Dr. Tweedbucket]

Here are some of the guys designs i've found online. I think the bro wants a dragon involved but i'm going to do everything i can to stop him! Some of these are nice though.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/81/l_5c2fe3e0fd38af897b8567a24ffb23ab.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/102/l_e4d63bc52b3cd3299497abe3dc83c01b.jpg

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/33/l_f1647dc27d7947e6bd14ee9e0fab8f96.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/63/l_4e31ec2ece0e441591f1666c34c6baa3.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/107/l_a814e808a3bdcdc359e18b08fc90ae3b.jpg


Nice detail ! :hiP

[fetishfrog]

There are corporate outings where you will have to take your shirt off.

Larry Flynt Enterprises

[Atmospheric]

Hey, I would never be so rude as to say anything about your tats to you directly or behind your back. And, if I met you, I'd do my best to let the relationship find its own level.

But, IMHO certain behavior is indicative of a "follower" personality, given to caving in to peer pressure.

Again, cigarette smoking is another such activity that just screams, "I don't respect myself, but I want to belong - DESPERATELY."

My .02.

You'd be surprised how often these "tells" about a person's personality actually work.

How very open minded of you.

The problem with tattoos is not the wearer, but the onlooker. If someone sees a tattooed person and instantly thinks 'trailer trash', 'criminal', 'slut', or thinks that the only possible reason the wearer got tattooed is because of peer pressure, that's a pretty sad state of affairs, and it shows the onlooker to be judgemental and intolerant.

Do these same people see a black man and think 'criminal', or a person of Arab descent and think 'terrorist'? In some case yes, but often not. Because generalisations based on skin colour are really not cool. At all.

So why is it ok to judge people for having multi-coloured skin?

[big mike]

But you're prejudging by saying that.

You don't know if someone's a follower or not by just looking at them.

[redpill]

I'm not a fan. Less so now that they've become so ubiquitous and schticky in so many cases. My brother, a 21 year Marine veteran, has several.

That said, to each one's own, and no, the presence of ink on someone doesn't in and of itself tell me anything about them as a person. It does matter to some though, and that might be worth considering. Or might not.

[davess23]

I have nothing against tattoos, although I wouldn't particularly want to get one. The way it's worked throughout my lifetime is:

--- when I was a kid, if you had tattoos you were probably telling the world you were a sailor
--- when I was a teenager, if you had tattoos you were probably telling the world you were a biker
--- when I was raising my kids, if you had tattoos you were telling the world you were cool, probably a goth or a punk
-- now, so many different kinds of people have tattoos that it really doesn't say much except that you dig body art.

What bugs me is how people often look a decade or three down the pike when their skin tone changes or the inks fade or whatever. That can be really, really bad.

[Ransome]

I hate `em... ;-)




Not really, just a piece of advice...
I wouldn't get anything visible (that can't be covered by a long sleeve shirt) if he wants any hope of getting a high paying job in his future.

Just my opinion (and yes I have ink to my wrists)

[wichita]

I have one. Didn't get it until I was 45. It means something to me. I am not a business man, or a country club guy so no one is going to judge me for having one.
I don't think it makes me any more or less cool than the next person but I enjoy the one I have.

[homerayvaughan]

I dunno. I guess I just don't understand the point/need/desire to have a tattoo. There is an obvious stigma that goes with being tattoo'd, especially when they involve the neck and face. People need to express themselves, sure, but I don't see where it's worth it. This thread is case and point. I know people with tattoos, I'm sure we all do. People will pre judge you by your appearance.

[MudPies]

People will pre judge you by your appearance.

That sounds like their own problem and insecurities.

[Jim Soloway]

Those of us with tatts should keep them nice and visible from now on. Hopefully we can make the old farts (and the young keep-off-my-lawners) so uncomfortable that they won't leave their nice safe house.

I am an "old fart". I keep my tattoo visible most of the time anyway.

[CocoTone]

I thought he was an ok guy....what......oh....never mind.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h159/brian329/tatoo.jpg

:facepalm what took you so long??!?

CT.

[ronmail65]

That sounds like their own problem and insecurities.

I agree, but why dis-advantage yourself for the sake of a tatoo?

Tatoos aren't against the law -- neither is long hair, piercings, riding a scooter, driving a foreign car, having blonde hair, walking around with your finger up your nose, and a bunch of other stuff that the general population will pre-judge you for. There's no getting around being judged by your appearance, and there never will be. That's reality - like it or not.

I think you just need to exercise some common sense as to whether society's judgement of these things will limit your opportunities, or the opportunities of your family. That applies to employers, friends, family, etc... In that context, if you don't think a tatoo could get in the way of your future in some way or another -- then I'd say you're probably wrong. But you decide -- it's still a free country, right?!?

I've seen plenty of cool tatoos, and plenty of stupid ones.

Personally, I wouldn't get one because 1) it sends a message to my family (my kids) that tatoos are okay, 2) it sends a message to potential employers (I'm not sure what the message is, but it's probably less than favorable in corporate America), and 3) it's probably gonna look pretty stupid one day when I'm in my 50's / 60's / 70's and I'd rather not have to worry about it.

[Flyin' Brian]

:facepalm what took you so long??!?

CT.

LOL same as you I guess.

[dzo]

There are corporate outings where you will have to take your shirt off.

That's how I got my job.

I can't think of anything I permanently want on my body. Make that any art I want on my body. For now, memories of important points or things in my life are good enough. When my memory starts to fail...

[fazendeiro]

That sounds like their own problem and insecurities.
Until people start whining about how they're treated because of their tattoos. It's a little like the woman who wears clothes that show a lot of cleavage, belly, and butt, then complains that men are looking at her.

[russ]

I like lookin' at em, and have no need to judge who's got 'em.
But for me, I can't deceide what to have on a pizza, no less permanent body art!

[Atmospheric]

We all make judgements about everything all the time.

"Tolerance" involves respecting others regardless of what our personal values might be.

BTW, I don't give a rip about being "nice." Look the word up sometime. It's derivation is "ignorant from a deliberate desire not to know."

For the record, my niece is heavling inked. It's none of my business. To my knowledge the subject has never come up in conversation.

If someone asks for my "opinion" (as the OP did), I should be free to offer it. It's the truth as I know it.

But you're prejudging by saying that.

You don't know if someone's a follower or not by just looking at them.

[2 Loud 4 You]

I have 2 full sleeves and 2 chest pieces. Everything can be covered by a long sleeve shirt and I'll look like all the rest of the people who would hate and misjudge me otherwise. You know the great part though, those who would judge me as trash, a criminal or a follower are people I don't feel are worthy to know me. It actually keeps the trash out of MY life.

The absolute WORST argument I keep hearing over and over and over and over and over by those that don't have a clue is that tattoos are a "fad". I'M the trailer trash, I'M dumb for getting tattooed? I suggest before ANYONE else uses that idiotic excuse to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE use that fancy computer they are on and do some research. Tattoos are THOUSANDS of years old! Not years, not decades, not centuries...there are THREE zeros in that number. I'm sorry but THAT'S not a fad.

[big mike]

We all make judgements about everything all the time.

"Tolerance" involves respecting others regardless of what our personal values might be.

BTW, I don't give a rip about being "nice." Look the word up sometime. It's derivation is "ignorant from a deliberate desire not to know."

For the record, my niece is heavling inked. It's none of my business. To my knowledge the subject has never come up in conversation.

If someone asks for my "opinion" (as the OP did), I should be free to offer it. It's the truth as I know it.
Why on the defensive? I was just responding to your statement. You're prejudging. I didn't say it was good or bad or that anyone else doesn't do it. It's a fairly innocuous response based on your previous post.

I was stating my opinion of weather or not you can assess someone as a follower without speaking to them.

[MudPies]

Rock and Roll. Now that's a fad.

[Subhuman]

My son, daughter and wife all have 'em.
I don't care for them myself.
Hell, I won't even put a bumper sticker on my car!

[Dotneck]

I love tattoo threads...


For the record, my niece is heavling inked. I

What does that mean? Is it a style?

[MudPies]

It just means she has quite a bit of tattoo work on her body.

[Frankee]

The absolute WORST argument I keep hearing over and over and over and over and over by those that don't have a clue is that tattoos are a "fad". I'M the trailer trash, I'M dumb for getting tattooed? I suggest before ANYONE else uses that idiotic excuse to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE use that fancy computer they are on and do some research. Tattoos are THOUSANDS of years old! Not years, not decades, not centuries...there are THREE zeros in that number. I'm sorry but THAT'S not a fad.
__________________

Amen.

[JiveJust]

My little (19) bro is dead set on getting some kind of japanese half sleave.

I'm trying to persuade him otherwise but it's pretty hard seeing as i've got most of my arm done!

What's the general perception these days? bare in mind he's not a musician.

How about this?

Have him print out a photo of the tattoo and stare as much as possible for 6 months. If after 6 months he still thinks it's a good idea then let him go for it.

That trick worked on my wife. She got sick of looking at the design and eventually decided not to get any ink. Why mess with perfection? ;)

[CocoTone]

Its human nature to pre-judge. We do it on here, when someone posts, we judge by what the write. Are we accurate??? I doubt it very much, but we still let them know what we think. Tatts make a very loud statement though. Especially if its distasteful, out of context, or just plain ugly.

CT.

[The Golden Boy]

I have 2 full sleeves and 2 chest pieces. Everything can be covered by a long sleeve shirt and I'll look like all the rest of the people who would hate and misjudge me otherwise. You know the great part though, those who would judge me as trash, a criminal or a follower are people I don't feel are worthy to know me. It actually keeps the trash out of MY life.

The absolute WORST argument I keep hearing over and over and over and over and over by those that don't have a clue is that tattoos are a "fad". I'M the trailer trash, I'M dumb for getting tattooed? I suggest before ANYONE else uses that idiotic excuse to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE use that fancy computer they are on and do some research. Tattoos are THOUSANDS of years old! Not years, not decades, not centuries...there are THREE zeros in that number. I'm sorry but THAT'S not a fad.

Actually, prior to around 1990, tattoos did not have the same social acceptance they have enjoyed afterwards. I was reading this awesome piece about the acceptance of tattoos and Dennis Rodman. Prior to Dennis Rodman, less than 5% of NBA players had tattoos. After Rodman retired, around 70% had tattoos.

I'll just say that I'm really happy I didn't get the tats I wanted to get when I was 18.

[MudPies]

What exactly is distasteful, or ugly? Where's the official handbook?

[Luke]

Actually, prior to around 1990, tattoos did not have the same social acceptance they have enjoyed afterwards. I was reading this awesome piece about the acceptance of tattoos and Dennis Rodman. Prior to Dennis Rodman, less than 5% of NBA players had tattoos. After Rodman retired, around 70% had tattoos.


Follow a guy that had to file for bankruptcy while making $9,000,000 a year, genius.

[JiveJust]

I have 2 full sleeves and 2 chest pieces. Everything can be covered by a long sleeve shirt and I'll look like all the rest of the people who would hate and misjudge me otherwise. You know the great part though, those who would judge me as trash, a criminal or a follower are people I don't feel are worthy to know me. It actually keeps the trash out of MY life.

The absolute WORST argument I keep hearing over and over and over and over and over by those that don't have a clue is that tattoos are a "fad". I'M the trailer trash, I'M dumb for getting tattooed? I suggest before ANYONE else uses that idiotic excuse to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE use that fancy computer they are on and do some research. Tattoos are THOUSANDS of years old! Not years, not decades, not centuries...there are THREE zeros in that number. I'm sorry but THAT'S not a fad.

I think the fads are the Tattoos of Tasmanian Devils, Butteryfly, Asshats, Mom, Tribals, Day of the Dead.......

[pickaguitar]

Why do tribal tats get such a hard time?

I don't have any tats...I do think some tribal tats are cool.

If I were a rock start I think I'd get tats similar to Flea

http://www.geocities.com/magikflea/tattoos.html

[kwaves99]

I don't like em. Perhaps its my upbringing (religion) which frowns on them...(and I'll leave it at that so I don't get banned). But for those who have them and like them...that's their business.

[Suproman77]

The absolute WORST argument I keep hearing over and over and over and over and over by those that don't have a clue is that tattoos are a "fad". I'M the trailer trash, I'M dumb for getting tattooed? I suggest before ANYONE else uses that idiotic excuse to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE use that fancy computer they are on and do some research. Tattoos are THOUSANDS of years old! Not years, not decades, not centuries...there are THREE zeros in that number. I'm sorry but THAT'S not a fad.

Not to :horse here, but I think you miss the point that the argument makes. See, people have been wearing pants for thousands of years, too. When was the last time you saw someone wear parachute pants?

It's not just the tattoos in general, but rather what they're of, where they're placed, and the reason for people getting them. For instance, look at the amount of girls getting the lower back tattoos (aka 'tramp stamps') now. Every one of them probably believes they're special for doing it, but they're not...they're just like every other girl who bought into a fad that's probably going to pass on by. When these girls get older, married, and have kids, will they be proud of that tattoo? Probably not. Why? Because it doesn't stand for anything lasting most of the time. It's just a passing whim from the days of their youth.

[Luke]

Why do tribal tats get such a hard time?

I don't have any tats...I do think some tribal tats are cool.

If I were a rock start I think I'd get tats similar to Flea

http://www.geocities.com/magikflea/tattoos.html

Because the poseurs wearing them are not members of the tribe?

There was a lawsuit a few years ago where a guy thought he was getting a Chinese symbol for warrior and they gave him something like douchbag instead.

[stevieboy]

Tattoos are THOUSANDS of years old! Not years, not decades, not centuries...there are THREE zeros in that number. I'm sorry but THAT'S not a fad.

Yeah but do those people still think their thousands of years old tattoos are cool today? Bet they didn't think about that when their friends talked them into it!

[pickaguitar]

Because the poseurs wearing them are not members of the tribe?

There was a lawsuit a few years ago where a guy thought he was getting a Chinese symbol for warrior and they gave him something like douchbag instead.
note to self...start tribe...then get tribe tattoo :)

[JiveJust]

There was a lawsuit a few years ago where a guy thought he was getting a Chinese symbol for warrior and they gave him something like douchbag instead.


That is kickass! :D

[MudPies]

I'm just waiting for someone to come judge the judging judges here.

[The Golden Boy]

I'm just waiting for someone to come judge the judging judges here.

Here comes da judge!

http://www.whidbeycruzers.com/gm/1969%20Pontiac%20GTO%20The%20Judge-Jack%20Christian.jpg

[Boomer]

I am not a tattoo fan. I would never consider one for myself and, frankly, I have never asked out a woman with visible tats and I don't think I've gone back for seconds after finding covered/hidden tats. Now, in most cases there was a personality clash along with the tats but it's not what I'm looking for.

I appreciate the skill and art involved in many of them but they just aren't for me.

[Tibbonds]

I have 2 full sleeves and 2 chest pieces. Everything can be covered by a long sleeve shirt and I'll look like all the rest of the people who would hate and misjudge me otherwise. You know the great part though, those who would judge me as trash, a criminal or a follower are people I don't feel are worthy to know me. It actually keeps the trash out of MY life.

The absolute WORST argument I keep hearing over and over and over and over and over by those that don't have a clue is that tattoos are a "fad". I'M the trailer trash, I'M dumb for getting tattooed? I suggest before ANYONE else uses that idiotic excuse to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE use that fancy computer they are on and do some research. Tattoos are THOUSANDS of years old! Not years, not decades, not centuries...there are THREE zeros in that number. I'm sorry but THAT'S not a fad.

+1 to everything here. I'm in a similar position, except I also have some visible ink too (hands, neck) and I must say it doesn't affect me 1 little bit.

I have a good job, earn good money, and command respect the same as any none tattooed person. I'm not a builder, or a bodyguard, or a rockstar, or a personal trainer or anything else where tattoos are accepted. I workl in the corporate world, and I am 'the face' of our company on many occasions, as a sales person. It's relatively high level stuff, my clients are Managing Directors and Chief Execs of national companies.

I find that people take me as they find me, which is perhaps not the most conventional corporate guy in the world, but an honest and pleasant one - and that's what matterts, right?

One thing I am living proof of, is that tattoos only hold you back in life if you were already a knuckle dragging moron before you got them. If you're willing to work hard at your career, then you'll succeed. There are a couple of exceptions, like I could never join the police if I wanted to, but then why would I want to put my life on the line daily for a relative pittance anyway?

[MudPies]

Remember the excuse someone here had in another tgp thread for not liking people with tatoos? He actually posted something like 'and they probably have Hep-C"

lulz

[Scott Peterson]

I don't have any tattoos, never thought about one and don't pass judgment on those that do have them. It's their body, not mine. It has no relevance to me when looking at someone in any perspective. I have never understood the whole uproar over them.

I do know if you want them removed, it's not fun from a few friends that have undergone that process.

[Strat]

THE ACTUAL STATS ARE THAT SOME 90 % REGRET IT WITHIN 2 YEARS AND WISH it off. Present company excepted of course.





Colours can be mixed to create new shades, so a small colour selection is not a real issue.

The problem with this is that nobody worth going to would actually use this ink. The fact it's so easy to remove by laser likely also means the tattoo won't hold up as well over time.

The other side of it is that nobody should be getting tattooed if you think that one day you might like to have it removed. If you're not sure, wait it out.

[edgewound]

Yes. We call those outings PRISON.

I'm laughing really hard now...and cant' stop. Brilliant!! Thank you!!!

I hate tattoos. I don't hate many things....I hate liver.

I don't hate the people that have tattoos...but I hate what they've done to their body.

I hate tattoos...IMO, there is no such thing as a tasteful tattoo.

It's an advertisement screaming, "look how cool I am!"

[fusionbear]

I'm laughing really hard now...and cant' stop. Brilliant!! Thank you!!!

I hate tattoos. I don't hate many things....I hate liver.

I don't hate the people that have tattoos...but I hate what they've done to their body.

I hate tattoos...IMO, there is no such thing as a tasteful tattoo.

It's an advertisement screaming, "look how cool I am!"


:agree

[PinoyBoy]

I'd get one if I had the body for it. But alas, tattoos on flab were never meant to be.

I think some tattoos are okay. Just like artwork, there are designs I prefer over others. In a thread not too long ago, someone showed a tattoo of his and it was a picture of the grill of a car. Personally I don't find that artistic at all but to each his own. I like dragons, snakes, tribal patterns, etc., and I'm sure there will be those who don't like those designs.

[Scott Miller]

It's an advertisement screaming, "look how cool I am!"

As if nobody else does anything to look cool. Or look nice. Or look anything. Some people wear jewelry, some people have their hair a certain way, some people drive a red car, some people replace their plain white pickguard with a MOTS pickguard.

[Dr. Tweedbucket]

note to self...start tribe...then get tribe tattoo :)



Can I join? :confused:

[bscur]

It has all the class of a bumper sticker in my opinion, but some people like them. Some people like sticking piercings in their eyebrows and so on, but most other fad fashions are not permanent. That is the tattoo problem- it is never going away, even when you sag and the tattoo fades and is a blob. I remember seeing a lot of older guys with Korean War era tattoos on their arms when I was a waiter in college. The blobs of greenish black ink stood out a a message to not get a tattoo. In the end, only the individual can decide, but sometimes he or she lacks the foresight to make a sound decision.

[svenhoek]

They need to design an ink that lasts only a year. Then you could have some fun, and a year later, try a different look.

So if you had Brittney tattooed on you a few years back, this year you could update with The Jonas Brothers.

How cool would that be?

[edgewound]

As if nobody else does anything to look cool. Or look nice. Or look anything. Some people wear jewelry, some people have their hair a certain way, some people drive a red car, some people replace their plain white pickguard with a MOTS pickguard.

...and all those things are so less permanent....so less painful....so less risky for lethal infection and scarring.

What happens when the "sleeve" needs to be gotten rid of?

Tattoo removal is really more like "tattoo fading".

[Scott Miller]

...and all those things are so less permanent....so less painful....so less risky for lethal infection and scarring.

So what? That's beside the point. It's the desire to look cool that seems to be so... um.. uncool.

[CocoTone]

....ok, so piercings and tattoos are expressions of one's indivduality, right? Tell me what goes through your mind when you see a young girl with a stud in her tounge?? What is it for exactly anywways??! Doesn't that make a statement?? If my daughter came home with one of those, we'd be in the garage sterilzing the side cutters I tellya!

CT.

[The_Whale]

....ok, so piercings and tattoos are expressions of one's indivduality, right?

yep.

That's why everybody does it.

[edgewound]

yep.

That's why everybody does it.

Conundrum oxymoron.

[mouldynudger]

My little (19) bro is dead set on getting some kind of japanese half sleave.



Is your brother Japanese?

Damian.

[Scott Miller]

so piercings and tattoos are expressions of one's indivduality, right?

Not necessarily. Some people just like them because they like them. Like wearing a ring. In fact, if we're going to randomly assign motives for behavior, a lot of personal-appearance decisions are made to be part of a group. Probably most of them.

[davess23]

I posted earlier, and just came home and read the rest of this thread.

What strikes me the most about it is that the OP is clearly asking that the rest of us express our opinions. When those opinions are expressed, they're often attacked by others as "judgments" being made.

My opinion is exactly that-- my judgment of a situation. What the hell else, pray tell, is an opinion supposed to be?

[90wreck]

As if nobody else does anything to look cool. Or look nice. Or look anything. Some people wear jewelry, some people have their hair a certain way, some people drive a red car, some people replace their plain white pickguard with a MOTS pickguard.
All of which are reversible......Including your post.
How you feel at the moment(like...now), may be different in 1-50 years........That is what I "think" about tattoo's.

[2 Loud 4 You]

....ok, so piercings and tattoos are expressions of one's indivduality, right? Tell me what goes through your mind when you see a young girl with a stud in her tounge?? What is it for exactly anywways??! Doesn't that make a statement?? If my daughter came home with one of those, we'd be in the garage sterilzing the side cutters I tellya!

CT.

FYI, my ex-wife had her tongue pierced and the implication you're making, the one most people make, wasn't true. It added nothing.

[2 Loud 4 You]

I'd get one if I had the body for it. But alas, tattoos on flab were never meant to be.

I think some tattoos are okay. Just like artwork, there are designs I prefer over others. In a thread not too long ago, someone showed a tattoo of his and it was a picture of the grill of a car. Personally I don't find that artistic at all but to each his own. I like dragons, snakes, tribal patterns, etc., and I'm sure there will be those who don't like those designs.

It's cool you didn't like it, I only did it for me. BTW, you never saw the inside which finished the idea but I don't think that matters in your case because you wouldn't see the art or idea I accomplished with it. FWIW, I don't want dragons or snakes on me.

[phishmarisol]

I've got a couple. Plan to get a lot more. I've seen lots of great tattoos, lots of horrible ones too. There are lots of variables as to what makes a good tattoo including the person, location, design, and artist.

As for the comments about how tattoos will look on aged skin, who cares. Always reminds me of the Mitch Hedberg bit about refusing to eat an apple because later it will just be a core.

[2 Loud 4 You]

One more thing, old Navy tattoos were brought up. Tattooing, inks and knowledge of proper care has come a LONG way since those days. While skin obviously ages, with proper skin care (which you should do anyway unless you like skin cancer) the ink and image holds up quite well.

[The_Whale]

Is your brother Japanese?

Damian.

Maybe he's in The Vapors?

:munch

[mouldynudger]

Maybe he's in The Vapors?

:munch

Ha!

They used to rehearse above the Launderette at the end of the road where my girlfriend grew up.

Amazing that a song with such subject matter could get so much airplay.

Damian.

[Tibbonds]

....ok, so piercings and tattoos are expressions of one's indivduality, right?
I don't think any of us tattooed folk/trailer trash has actually said that in this thread. Pretty silly to presume everyone gets them for the same reason; as a form of self expression.

I get them for all kinds of reasons. Because the design makes me laugh, to mark my wedding, in remembrance of a loved one, just because I love the style of the artist and wanted something by them on me... my reasons are really none of anyone's business, but they're varied, they're valid (to me, which is what matters), and they're absolutely nothing to do with self expression.

Most of all, I get tattooed because of all the visual arts, tattooing is my favourite medium.

I love the fact that you put your trust in a guy who's going to make a permanent mark on you, having to tattoo neat lines and shade smooth gradients with what amounts to a 9oz vibrating brick. That's real talent. The vast majority of the top artists paint and draw professionally too, and they'll tell you tattooing is by far the hardest artform to master. No room for error whatsoever, and you're painting on a canvas that sweats, faints, bleeds, stretches, jitters, cries, even occasionally vomits.

If you don't love it as an artform, then you'll just never 'get it', same as some guitarists 'get' Hendrix and others think he was overrated and sloppy. FWIW, so as not to start any further debate, I worship Hendrix. But that has nothing to do with this, it was merely a comparison.

It's fine to not be 'into' it, it really is - it's certainly not for everyone - but people should really have a better understanding of what they're talking about and dealing with before they start bitching about it on the internet, judging others for their choices as though their own shit doesn't stink.

Nobody has to get tattooed, that's your choice not to and nobody's bashing you for it, so for someone who doesn't have the first clue what I'm about to insinuate, directly or otherwise, that I'm *insert derogitary quality here* is presumptuous, offensive, and downright ill-informed.

And to end my rant, some examples of absolutely exquisite tattooing - quality most of you didn't even know existed. You don't have to go away thinking 'wow, I want one now', but hopefully it might open your eyes as to what tattooing has become in recent times, and to be a little more open minded about appreciating it as a valid artform that some people just adore.

You can guarantee the wearers of the following tattoos didn't go in just any old studio to be cool like their friends. These people will have often travelled far and wide, waited on the waiting list for a couple of years, and spent what may seem like extortionate amounts of money on getting the right piece by the right artists.

The Splawn, Analogman and Skreddy collectors of the tattoo world? Does that put it in terms you're more familiar with now?

http://www.anilgupta.com/largepics/biomechanical/NickCooperBioMechArm.jpg

http://www.zhippo.com/StudioOneTattooHOSTED/images/gallery/medium%2FSteve_Erwin_Tattoo.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/73/l_82718937ddb2448ab86cbd40aa6b8b48.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/94/l_b21c06b973ce4cc2af6c583e666c019f.jpg

http://www.brandonbond.com/gallery/albums/20050830bbond/chrisju-on.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/70/l_9504b0ba156aa0c876e55cb780805bc0.jpg

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/15/l_48d3b5d481e5ba49132a97438d2f6b8a.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/46/l_bcdc1563bd704523a006e98146314193.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/121/l_aacaa4beeaab449f3a9a4c6d486d47ac.jpg

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/119/l_01790da39cae8ffef4a2bf988288e8f6.jpg

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/59/l_5312130c8ebc02e21f2be6cc5accfdb9.jpg

http://www.zhippo.com/MikeDevriesTattoosHOSTED/images/gallery/dali_good_raw.jpg

[klatuu]

Saw a guy delivering beer today with the Anheuser Busch logo inked on the back of his calf. Now that's a company man!

[mouldynudger]

I don't think any of us tattooed folk/trailer trash has actually said that in this thread. Pretty silly to presume everyone gets them for the same reason; as a form of self expression.

I get them for all kinds of reasons. Because the design makes me laugh, to mark my wedding, in remembrance of a loved one, just because I love the style of the artist and wanted something by them on me... my reasons are really none of anyone's business, but they're varied, they're valid (to me, which is what matters), and they're absolutely nothing to do with self expression.

Most of all, I get tattooed because of all the visual arts, tattooing is my favourite medium.

I love the fact that you put your trust in a guy who's going to make a permanent mark on you, having to tattoo neat lines and shade smooth gradients with what amounts to a 9oz vibrating brick. That's real talent. The vast majority of the top artists paint and draw professionally too, and they'll tell you tattooing is by far the hardest artform to master. No room for error whatsoever, and you're painting on a canvas that sweats, faints, bleeds, stretches, jitters, cries, even occasionally vomits.

If you don't love it as an artform, then you'll just never 'get it', same as some guitarists 'get' Hendrix and others think he was overrated and sloppy. FWIW, so as not to start any further debate, I worship Hendrix. But that has nothing to do with this, it was merely a comparison.

It's fine to not be 'into' it, it really is - it's certainly not for everyone - but people should really have a better understanding of what they're talking about and dealing with before they start bitching about it on the internet, judging others for their choices as though their own shit doesn't stink.

Nobody has to get tattooed, that's your choice not to and nobody's bashing you for it, so for someone who doesn't have the first clue what I'm about to insinuate, directly or otherwise, that I'm *insert derogitary quality here* is presumptuous, offensive, and downright ill-informed.

And to end my rant, some examples of absolutely exquisite tattooing - quality most of you didn't even know existed. You don't have to go away thinking 'wow, I want one now', but hopefully it might open your eyes as to what tattooing has become in recent times, and to be a little more open minded about appreciating it as a valid artform that some people just adore.

You can guarantee the wearers of the following tattoos didn't go in just any old studio to be cool like their friends. These people will have often travelled far and wide, waited on the waiting list for a couple of years, and spent what may seem like extortionate amounts of money on getting the right piece by the right artists.

The Splawn, Analogman and Skreddy collectors of the tattoo world? Does that put it in terms you're more familiar with now?




Purely from an artistic perspective. I wouldn`t hang any of those images on my wall.

Damian.

[Tibbonds]

Nobody's asking you to.

[mouldynudger]

Nobody's asking you to.

My question is. If you were presented with any of those images as a painting. Would you pay money for it and use it to decorate your home?

Damian.

[Tibbonds]

Hang them on the wall? No. That isn't the point of tattoos - I think you're confusing tattoos with paintings ;)

Would I save one of them as my wallpaper on the computer? yes. Would I stop the wearer in the street to strike up a conversation about it? Certainly. I also collect my own tattoos on my own skin, as that really is the point of them.

[Tibbonds]

You edited your question after I posted my response to it.

Funnily enough, in our house we do have paintings that were done by tattooers in the same style they tattoo in. Some are commissioned originals, some are prints we bought at conventions.

So in a round about way, the answer to the question you so cleverly edited to make me look a bit daft, is yes.

[gwarner]

You edited your question after I posted my response to it.

Funnily enough, in our house we do have paintings that were done by tattooers in the same style they tattoo in. Some are commissioned originals, some are prints we bought at conventions.

So in a round about way, the answer to the question you so cleverly edited to make me look a bit daft, is yes.

If you dont want to tell me thats fine, but im just curious as to what his original question was.

And I actually have a tattoo, by an artist who I have work of art from framed in my house, so yeah there are "tattoos" I would pay for to hang in my house.

[mouldynudger]

Hang them on the wall? No. That isn't the point of tattoos - I think you're confusing tattoos with paintings ;)

Would I save one of them as my wallpaper on the computer? yes. Would I stop the wearer in the street to strike up a conversation about it? Certainly. I also collect my own tattoos on my own skin, as that really is the point of them.

Not confusing I hope, just examining the merit of the images as art.

I have nothing against people who have tatoos. It`s just that the aesthetic is somewhat "limited" for my taste.

If poor quality art can still be a great tattoo then that`s great but I`d rather have high quality art.
The portability aspect just doesn`t swing it for me.

YMWill most certainlyV. :)

Damian.

[mouldynudger]

You edited your question after I posted my response to it.

Funnily enough, in our house we do have paintings that were done by tattooers in the same style they tattoo in. Some are commissioned originals, some are prints we bought at conventions.

So in a round about way, the answer to the question you so cleverly edited to make me look a bit daft, is yes.

For accuaracy. I should say that I edited my question immediately after it appeared and before I had seen your reply.

Damian.

[esmiralha]

It's ink under your skin. That's what I think of them.

[Frater B]

I like them and have no problem with those with tattoos.

A very good friend of mine is a tattoo/artist.
He is in the magz and such. I have witnessed him turn down work
because he felt they would either regret it later or it was just silly subject
matter. Most will just do the tattoo for you no matter what it is, you
know money talks. I have much respect for his work ethic! Plus it is his
work to turn down or be judged by.

I have always wanted one.
And probably always will.

A guy I worked with just got his forearm done two months ago.
He wants it covered with something else allready.

:huh

If someone wants a tattoo, my advice would be that they give it serious thought!
Know that it is not easy to remove and costly to do so, more than the tattoo itself.

__

[edgewound]

I posted earlier, and just came home and read the rest of this thread.

What strikes me the most about it is that the OP is clearly that the rest of us express our opinions. When those opinions are expressed, they're often attacked by others as "judgments" being made.

My opinion is exactly that-- my judgment of a situation. What the hell else, pray tell, is an opinion supposed to be?

Thank you. Well said....you beat me to it.

[hogy]

My question is. If you were presented with any of those images as a painting. Would you pay money for it and use it to decorate your home?

Damian.

If they were done in velvet and glowed under blacklight, maybe.

[2 Loud 4 You]

If they were done in velvet and glowed under blacklight, maybe.

There are blacklight tattoos as well.

[hogy]

There are blacklight tattoos as well.

I'll take this one, thankyouverymuch:

http://www.nerditry.com/images/jesus-elvis.jpg

[lcjc800]

:munch

[HEY!YOU!]

The girls on Brent Michaels Love Bus show........

[scott757]

My wife turned 25 today and she wanted her first tattoo. So we went to my artist and we both got "...with love" tattooed on our feet. Hers is very stylized and mine is just typewrite font. All that said...tattoos are a person decision. Both my arms are pretty much covered from the elbow up. I have some on my back and now one of my foot.

In response to the corporate post...I've worked in a corporate setting for the past 6 years. It's not for me. I'm thinking about going below my elbows specifically to keep me from ever going back.

[Frankee]

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/121/l_aacaa4beeaab449f3a9a4c6d486d47ac.jpg

Henning is still at it, I see.

[RAILhead]

I only have 2, but I'm planning on getting more. My take is that if the art means something legit and timeless -- or it serves as some kind of life-landmark, then go for it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3640/3455450623_a77b59ddaf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maurymccown/3455450623/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3635/3320935554_fe1853e345.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maurymccown/3320935554/)

[take1carry1]

They are not "timeless" as most people who get them think. My father had multiple Navy-related, multi-colored, elaborate tats from WWII. In the late '50's they were still vivid, recognizable and readable. By the late '70's they were blurred and more or less colorless. I've seen the same degradation on other's tats in my 55 yrs.

[CocoTone]

FYI, my ex-wife had her tongue pierced and the implication you're making, the one most people make, wasn't true. It added nothing.


Then why do it??? They look stupid, and make you talk funny,,,like your mouth is full of,,,,something.:jo ...and if it added nothing, she's not doing it right.

CT.

[Dr. Tweedbucket]

Drunkin Tattoos are the best! :bong .... both when the tattoo artist is drunk and the guy getting the tattoo. It's kind of neat to see what you got in teh morning. :knitting

[Tibbonds]

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/121/l_aacaa4beeaab449f3a9a4c6d486d47ac.jpg

Henning is still at it, I see.

That one's actually Mike Rubendall from King's Avenue in New York mate, one of my favourites. But Henning Jorgensen is most definitely still at it, and he's definitely still awesome! I think he and Mike are good friends, so it's more than possible they've influenced each others' style.

[2 Loud 4 You]

Then why do it??? They look stupid, and make you talk funny,,,like your mouth is full of,,,,something.:jo ...and if it added nothing, she's not doing it right.

CT.

She had it before we met and she got it because she wanted it. Also, I almost forgot, my last gf had hers pierced as well, again, nothing. Sorry but I just view it as a felatio fallacy. Now piercings lower on a woman, yeah, THAT worked...for her.

If you heard either of the girls talk you'd never know they had their tongues pierced. You only talk funny in the beginning, in my experience with those with tongue studs.

[larry1096]

On a girl, a tatoo always says the same thing to me: "Some other guy was here before, and LOOK, he left pictures!!"

:D

Larry

[2 Loud 4 You]

On a girl, a tatoo always says the same thing to me: "Some other guy was here before, and LOOK, he left pictures!!"

:D

Larry

Unless you're into teenagers, every girl has had some guy there before you. Coincidentally, my 1st tattoo was done by a woman.

[Don P.]

A woman I work with asked me if I was interested in getting one because she is putting together a tattoo party. I told her no because I thought that they have become cliche and now have gone the way of Avon, Tupperware, and vibrators.

[Tibbonds]

Even if interested in getting tattooed, STEER WELL CLEAR of any 'tattoo parties' or similar. Absolutely 100% of the time the tattoo will be done by an amateur, with zero tattooing skills, and somebody's home is not in any way, shape or for, a hygeinic environment to be tattooed in. Aside from the fact tattooing from unlicenced premises is completely illegal.

It's a bad idea. You'll end up with sub par work, and run the risk of catching one of a number of blood bourne pathogens, or at the very least a nice case of infection, leading to a badly healed tattoo.

Bad idea. Good tattoos aren't cheap, and cheap tattoos aren't good. No ifs and buts, this is the truth.

[Luke]

A woman I work with asked me if I was interested in getting one because she is putting together a tattoo party. I told her no because I thought that they have become cliche and now have gone the way of Avon, Tupperware, and vibrators.

Is that what they call it to be on the DL in the yard these days?

http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/images/2007/07/03/picskinhead.jpg

Seriously WTF? I wonder if this guys tats have negatively influenced his ability to find work?

[2 Loud 4 You]

Is that what they call it to be on the DL in the yard these days?

http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/images/2007/07/03/picskinhead.jpg

Seriously WTF? I wonder if this guys tats have negatively influenced his ability to find work?

I love tattoos but I'm DEFINITELY smart enough to know where to stop. I don't go past the wrist or above the neck line. Once you tattoo your face you have crossed a line and MUST expect consequences. Of course racist imagery pretty much means you're a criminal anyway and part of the Aryan Brotherhood. Knuckle/hand tattoos are called job stoppers for a reason and pro artists won't do them on someone unless they're sporting A LOT of ink and still warn the person. That being said, Katzen (look her up) wears heavy make up on her face and works in a business environment so I guess it can be done.

[2 Loud 4 You]

even if interested in getting tattooed, steer well clear of any 'tattoo parties' or similar. Absolutely 100% of the time the tattoo will be done by an amateur, with zero tattooing skills, and somebody's home is not in any way, shape or for, a hygeinic environment to be tattooed in. Aside from the fact tattooing from unlicenced premises is completely illegal.

It's a bad idea. You'll end up with sub par work, and run the risk of catching one of a number of blood bourne pathogens, or at the very least a nice case of infection, leading to a badly healed tattoo.

Bad idea. Good tattoos aren't cheap, and cheap tattoos aren't good. No ifs and buts, this is the truth.

+1000!!!!!!

[Luke]

I love tattoos but I'm DEFINITELY smart enough to know where to stop. I don't go past the wrist or above the neck line. Once you tattoo your face you have crossed a line and MUST expect consequences. Of course racist imagery pretty much means you're a criminal anyway and part of the Aryan Brotherhood. Knuckle/hand tattoos are called job stoppers for a reason and pro artists won't do them on someone unless they're sporting A LOT of ink and still warn the person. That being said, Katzen (look her up) wears heavy make up on her face and works in a business environment so I guess it can be done.

You mean her?

http://images.absoluteastronomy.com/images/topicimages/k/ka/katzen.gif

[Tibbonds]

Is that what they call it to be on the DL in the yard these days?

http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/images/2007/07/03/picskinhead.jpg

Seriously WTF? I wonder if this guys tats have negatively influenced his ability to find work?

Frustrating thing is, people will see this photo and think 'urgh, a tattooed thug', and the word 'tattooed' will spring to mind before the word 'racist' does.

The guy looks like a nasty piece of work, no doubt, but there are plenty of none tattooed racist thugs in prison too.

[2 Loud 4 You]

You mean her?

http://images.absoluteastronomy.com/images/topicimages/k/ka/katzen.gif

Yeah, she was on a show about tattoos recently and wore heavy make up to cover her ink. I forget exactly what the business was but I know she was dressed nice in biz attire and noted that none of her clients knew of her other side. I do know it had nothing to do with the tattoo industry or her husband, Enigma's, side show freak stuff.

[Born2Blues67]

On a girl, a tatoo always says the same thing to me: "Some other guy was here before, and LOOK, he left pictures!!"

:D

Larry

Amen! No truer words were ever spoken. Tatoos,to me,say only one thing;
white trash.

:stir

[S-L-A-C-K-E-R]

Yeah, she was on a show about tattoos recently and wore heavy make up to cover her ink. I forget exactly what the business was but I know she was dressed nice in biz attire and noted that none of her clients knew of her other side. I do know it had nothing to do with the tattoo industry or her husband, Enigma's, side show freak stuff.

Wouldn't it just be easier to skip the whole tattoo thing and put face paint on for the cat persona part of her life rather than cake on heavy make up to look normal enough to work a regular job? People are so dumb. :facepalm

[MudPies]

Wouldn't it just be easier to skip the whole tattoo thing and put face paint on for the cat persona part of her life rather than cake on heavy make up to look normal enough to work a regular job? People are so dumb. :facepalm

That sounds just as annoying as covering her tatts up.

Imagine if everyones views on dumb were the same. What a boring world this would be.

[2 Loud 4 You]

Amen! No truer words were ever spoken. Tatoos,to me,say only one thing;
white trash.

:stir

Hey, pot stirrer, what are other races with tattoos? Just curious as to HOW DEEP you'd like to dig your hole.

[S-L-A-C-K-E-R]

That sounds just as annoying as covering her tatts up.

Maybe, but at least make up washes off. Why make something like that permanent. It's just mind boggling to me. The members of KISS didn't tattoo their make up on and they probably spent more time with make up on than with make up off. Sorry, but convenience isn't a good enough reason for me. You have to be :NUTS to do that stuff.

[kramerlover]

Never had a tattoo... actually thought about it a few times (like when my best friend got his tatt of his Telecaster on his arm), but never went through with it.

One reason I hesitate is that I look back on my life and realize how many different "phases" I've gone through;

In the 70's (in High School) I was so in love with this one girl that I was SURE that we'd be together forever (I haven't heard from her in the last 25 years or so)

In the 80's I was on the road with a band - livin' the "Rock and Roll" lifestyle with lots of whiskey and women. (I was very content with that groove for about 7 years and thought it would never end)

In the 90's I got married and have two children, finished my college degree and have a Professional position that allows me plenty of freedom to play guitar on weekends and all summer. I have become much more conservative because of parenthood and work...

I am glad that I didn't follow my instincts of youth regarding permenant body art...

[The Golden Boy]

I have 2 full sleeves and 2 chest pieces. Everything can be covered by a long sleeve shirt and I'll look like all the rest of the people who would hate and misjudge me otherwise. You know the great part though, those who would judge me as trash, a criminal or a follower are people I don't feel are worthy to know me. It actually keeps the trash out of MY life.

The absolute WORST argument I keep hearing over and over and over and over and over by those that don't have a clue is that tattoos are a "fad". I'M the trailer trash, I'M dumb for getting tattooed? I suggest before ANYONE else uses that idiotic excuse to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE use that fancy computer they are on and do some research. Tattoos are THOUSANDS of years old! Not years, not decades, not centuries...there are THREE zeros in that number. I'm sorry but THAT'S not a fad.

I love tattoos but I'm DEFINITELY smart enough to know where to stop. I don't go past the wrist or above the neck line. Once you tattoo your face you have crossed a line and MUST expect consequences. Of course racist imagery pretty much means you're a criminal anyway and part of the Aryan Brotherhood. Knuckle/hand tattoos are called job stoppers for a reason and pro artists won't do them on someone unless they're sporting A LOT of ink and still warn the person. That being said, Katzen (look her up) wears heavy make up on her face and works in a business environment so I guess it can be done.

Hmmm...

[MudPies]

Maybe, but at least make up washes off. Why make something like that permanent. It's just mind boggling to me. The members of KISS didn't tattoo their make up on and they probably spent more time with make up on than with make up off. Sorry, but convenience isn't a good enough reason for me. You have to be :NUTS to do that stuff.

Just because you don't see the value in something doesn't mean those who do are any less than you are. Boarderline insulting.

[2 Loud 4 You]

Hmmm...

Don't state a "hmmm" if you've got nothing to add. I'm not even sure which part you're trying to "hmmm". I assume you're trying to say I'm contradicting myself in some way which I don't feel I am. Facial tattoos or any tattoo that can't be covered up comes with it's risk. I'm not stupid, I know that. I know that the closed minded see tattoos as "bad" so if I feel like blending in with everyone else, I put on a long sleeve and no one is the wiser.

Racist tattoos pretty much up the ante into asking for trouble and they're probably already in it.

So if you're going to make a point, then make it otherwise you sound like Billy Bob in Slingblade. Would you like some french fried potatoes, Billy?

[Scott Miller]

Come to think of it, I don't understand why the permanant aspect is so repellent. So, for those of you who don't like tattoos, would they be perfectly fine if they disappeared after, say, five years?

[kramerlover]

Come to think of it, I don't understand why the permanant aspect is so repellent. So, for those of you who don't like tattoos, would they be perfectly fine if they disappeared after, say, five years?


I would have one if I knew it would completely disappear in 5 years! :)

[Mark Robinson]

I've just yet to see one that constitutes an improvement on the original equipment. Especially on the ladies, much prefer the empty canvas.

[MudPies]

I think many people are subconsciously bummed that they aren't able to get inked. That jealousy could be breeding the judging of those who can and do have ink.

[nibus]

I've never understood the desire to put a permanent picture on your body. I think the majority are ugly and distasteful. If they only lasted a specific amount of time that would be different, but permanent is an awfully long time, not to mention the color is lost and they look worse and worse the older they get.

[The_Whale]

Ha!

Amazing that a song with such subject matter could get so much airplay.

Damian.

not too amazing, there's been at least one other...

[fazendeiro]

I think many people are subconsciously bummed that they aren't able to get inked. That jealousy could be breeding the judging of those who can and do have ink.
Interesting but transparent tactic.

Lookit, the dude asked for opinions on tattoos and people gave them. Why are you so surprised and incensed that they don't all coincide with yours?

[MudPies]

I'm just saying subconscious jealousy can be a powerful thing. We all suffer from it in one form or another.

[derekd]

Never interested, mainly because of my dad's tats from when he was in the Navy during Korean war. Have a number of friends who have them. Meh.

I watched Miami Ink for a season just to figure out what the big deal is. I admit there are some very interesting memorial sorts of things that get done, and some very cool artistic expressions. What people do with their own bodies is pretty much their biz. However, I employ a bunch of people and we work with kids for a living. Visable tats are mostly a no no here.

[edgewound]

I've just yet to see one that constitutes an improvement on the original equipment. Especially on the ladies, much prefer the empty canvas.

Ahhh yes....but the empty canvas is already a masterpiece, each one being unique.

[edgewound]

I think many people are subconsciously bummed that they aren't able to get inked. That jealousy could be breeding the judging of those who can and do have ink.


Why the defensive posture, Mud? Are opinions that differ from yours so wrong that you feel the need to sell it?

Let it go. No sale.

[Scott Miller]

On the other hand, if we're going to make up weird dumbass ideas about why people like tattoos, we might as well make up weird dumbass ideas about why they don't like them. Tit for tat! (Rimshot.)

[Suproman77]

What exactly prevents one from getting a tattoo? I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be jealous over something like that.

Speaking for myself only here, I've thought about getting one on my shoulder plenty of times years ago. I also had a girlfriend who had a few and she really used to try hard to get me to get one myself. Ultimately, I decided against it and that was after having a conversation with my Dad about it. He has a couple that he really regrets now and wants them removed. I could totally see that happening to me one day, so forget it. Jealousy has nothing to do with the opinion I have of them now....just don't think the majority of people who get them really think it through and the human body is beautiful enough and complete as it is...no need to augment or alter it. I also don't believe in unnecessary cosmetic surgery either.

[Mark Robinson]

[quote=Suproman77;6011376]What exactly prevents one from getting a tattoo? I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be jealous over something like that.

For sure, the "barriers to entry" aren't too difficult to surmount.:huh Just about anybody can scrape together $50-$100 and a bottle of booze!

[MudPies]

Why the defensive posture, Mud? Are opinions that differ from yours so wrong that you feel the need to sell it?

Let it go. No sale.

Ok then. Have a nice day.

[MudPies]

What prevents one from getting a tatt?

Stuffy corporate environement job.
Personal hangups.
Having no skin.

[edgewound]

Ok then. Have a nice day.

Thanks very much...You, too.

[Luke]

What prevents one from getting a tatt?

Stuffy corporate environement job.
Personal hangups.
Having no skin.

You forgot self respect

[Suproman77]

What prevents one from getting a tatt?

Stuffy corporate environement job.
Personal hangups.
Having no skin.

Well, thankfully, most of us have skin. Some of us a little thicker than others. ;) :)

Corporate environment prevents one from getting a tattoo on a part of the body that is visible...like your hands, neck, or face. Everywhere else, how would someone even know you have it?

Exactly what personal hangups do you mean? I don't get what you're saying.

[ford]

I'm not big on them.... but have seen some very well done ones. I don't have any.

Many people don't judge because of them, but there will be people out there who will.. so you have to accept that or be prepared for it.

[MudPies]

Exactly what personal hangups do you mean? I don't get what you're saying.

Here's a potential example.

You forgot self respect

[Yankee Univox]

You forgot self respectGive it a rest already...K? :jo

[mikem]

What exactly prevents one from getting a tattoo? I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be jealous over something like that.

Speaking for myself only here, I've thought about getting one on my shoulder plenty of times years ago. I also had a girlfriend who had a few and she really used to try hard to get me to get one myself. Ultimately, I decided against it and that was after having a conversation with my Dad about it. He has a couple that he really regrets now and wants them removed. I could totally see that happening to me one day, so forget it. Jealousy has nothing to do with the opinion I have of them now....just don't think the majority of people who get them really think it through and the human body is beautiful enough and complete as it is...no need to augment or alter it. I also don't believe in unnecessary cosmetic surgery either.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. I had a friend who had a lot of ink- I've lost touch, but I wonder how he feels about the satanic stuff he had on him then? I didn't feel I could trust myself to have one done that would represent the way I felt in the future, so I never had any.

Mike

[8Painting]

I like them when they mean something personal.

As far as in memorium, or tribute, etc.

Flash trash really, really turns me off.

Tattoos will either make me respect someone more, or respect them less.

[The Golden Boy]

Don't state a "hmmm" if you've got nothing to add. I'm not even sure which part you're trying to "hmmm". I assume you're trying to say I'm contradicting myself in some way which I don't feel I am. Facial tattoos or any tattoo that can't be covered up comes with it's risk. I'm not stupid, I know that. I know that the closed minded see tattoos as "bad" so if I feel like blending in with everyone else, I put on a long sleeve and no one is the wiser.

Racist tattoos pretty much up the ante into asking for trouble and they're probably already in it.

So if you're going to make a point, then make it otherwise you sound like Billy Bob in Slingblade. Would you like some french fried potatoes, Billy?

Hmmmm...

[esmiralha]

White collar conservative flashing down the street,
pointing their plastic finger at me.
They're hoping soon my kind will drop and die, but
I'm gonna wave my freak flag high.

Man, do I love that song...?

[mikem]

I like them when they mean something personal.

As far as in memorium, or tribute, etc.

Flash trash really, really turns me off.

Tattoos will either make me respect someone more, or respect them less.

It's really just a personal choice. I make no judgements either way- at least I hope I don't.

Mike

[Yankee Univox]

Does anyone else find it interesting that it is exactly the 'holier than thou,judgemental,finger pointing,ultra conservative,you should be like me' types who are always judging things like piercings,tattoos, males with long hair etc. etc. who are ultimately responsible for decimating this country?:huh


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...:bong

[2 Loud 4 You]

Hmmmm...

Fabulous argument there Billy Bob, I hear McDonalds has some great fries, you should look into it.

So no one who calls tattoos "white trash" offered up a name for other races with tattoos. Fine to call me white trash but you're not quite ready to cross that line into what could be construed a racial remark. To borrow Billy Bob Golden Boy's line, "hmmm".

[Scott Miller]

You forgot self respect

Har! That's just a mere "observation" right? Nothing judgemental about that at all!

[The Golden Boy]

Fabulous argument there Billy Bob, I hear McDonalds has some great fries, you should look into it.



Hmmm...

[edgewound]

Does anyone else find it interesting that it is exactly the 'holier than thou,judgemental,finger pointing,ultra conservative,you should be like me' types who are always judging things like piercings,tattoos, males with long hair etc. etc. who are ultimately responsible for decimating this country?:huh


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...:bong

Wow....talk about judgemental....and broadbrushing.

There are extremes to each end, and each extreme is just as guilty as the other for "decimation"

About 80% of us are somewhere around the middle...and get along just fine.

[fazendeiro]

Does anyone else find it interesting that it is exactly the 'holier than thou,judgemental,finger pointing,ultra conservative,you should be like me' types who are always judging things like piercings,tattoos, males with long hair etc. etc. who are ultimately responsible for decimating this country?:huh


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...:bong
What color is the sky in your world?

[Yankee Univox]

What color is the sky in your world?TRUTH,thank you very much! :)

[fretnot]

I don't personally care for tatoos, but I don't judge others for what they wish to do to their body. You get one life...live it as you see fit.

[Polynitro]

What prevents one from getting a tatt?

Stuffy corporate environement job.
Personal hangups.
Having no skin.


The Man :bong

[svenhoek]

Man, this tattoo issue is just about as divisive as the breaking the law by speeding issue...

[edgewound]

Man, this tattoo issue is just about as divisive as the breaking the law by speeding issue...


True enough.

There are some here that think that as long as you don't agree with them, you're somehow uptight, ultra-conservative, jealous, self-conscious, self-righteous, closed-minded, judgemental....whatever.

It's an opinion....get over it.

[Yankee Univox]

True enough.

There are some here that think that as long as you don't agree with them, you're somehow uptight, ultra-conservative, jealous, self-conscious, self-righteous, closed-minded, judgemental....whatever.

It's an opinion....get over it.As opposed to those on the other side of the issue who believe that those of us with ink are anarchists,criminal scum,or other assorted 'trash'? :NUTS

[MudPies]

When people feel they are being judged unfairly (not all the judgements are unfair) they're going to stick up for themselves.

Nobody here is calling someone an idiot/moron/crazy because they chose not to get ink'd.

[mike80]

Does anyone else find it interesting that it is exactly the 'holier than thou,judgemental,finger pointing,ultra conservative,you should be like me' types who are always judging things like piercings,tattoos, males with long hair etc. etc. who are ultimately responsible for decimating this country?:huh


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...:bong


Ding ding...we have a winner!

[Seditious]

I don't personally care for tatoos, but I don't judge others for what they wish to do to their body. You get one life...live it as you see fit.

:agree What was it they used to say about that Rock N Roll music?

[edgewound]

As opposed to those on the other side of the issue who believe that those of us with ink are anarchists,criminal scum,or other assorted 'trash'? :NUTS


No...I haven't seen those remarks aimed at any one person(s) here. Some stereotypical jokes, maybe

It's just that for so long, tattoos were looked upon as a sign of some sort of moral deficit.....for lack of a better phrase...or a sailor's weekend binge while on shore leave.

What you advertise on your body is your business...and you ought to be prepared to handle the consequences of it, either good or bad.

Those of us without ink don't have to worry about that, and I, personally, like it that way.

I mean you no harm.

[JiveJust]

I say go for it. Tattoo removal is pretty good nowadays if you change your mind later. I hear it's far more painful than getting the tattoo in the very place so you might want to factor that into the decision.

[2 Loud 4 You]

No...I haven't seen those remarks aimed at any one person(s) here. Some stereotypical jokes, maybe

That's the problem, they are stereotypes but not jokes. Being called white trash is not a joke. You wouldn't walk up to a tattooed person on the street and say "hey white trash...hahaha" anymore than you'd walk up to a black man and call him the N word. I guess I missed the joke in degrading someone simply because they have a tattoo. There are DEFINITELY poor choices made, such as "Skin Head" tattooed where your eyebrows should be but by and large the "only sailors and bikers have tattoos" reality is long since passed. All different types of people have them and believe it or not, many of us are just hard working people, not revolving door prisoners. I know that's a hard concept for some people to grasp but tattoo doesn't = convict anymore than it equals white trash.

[The_Whale]

I don't personally care for tatoos, but I don't judge others for what they wish to do to their body. You get one life...live it as you see fit.

If they didn't want to be judged, they wouldn't have tattoos....

[2 Loud 4 You]

If they didn't want to be judged, they wouldn't have tattoos....


Hahahahaha, wait, let me catch my breath, hahahahahahaha, no, really, wait, hahahahahahahaha! Holy crap, I COMPLETELY forgot I got tattoos for everyone else. :NUTS

[edgewound]

Probably best to just not participate in "opinion" threads.

Escalation seems to be inevitable.

[NuSkoolTone]

I find it quite refreshing when a gal doesn't have tattoos......

I agree. Seldomly have I seen models (A list) with tattoos. Strippers and porn stars? Rare they do NOT have a tattoo. Generally I just don't find them attractive.

I try not to judge but there is still a stigma to tattoos. Personally the majority I see are trashy and seldomly well thought out. Generic tattoos that someone picked out of a book are kinda cheesy IMO.

Something unique and classy on the otherhand can be cool. Some people are just over the top. I saw a guy in traffic court last month with tribal tattoos ON HIS FACE like he was apocalypto. I'm sure that impressed the judge! lol.

Just an example of not thinking things out. Does anyone ever ask themselves these questions? What if I put on wieght? How will it look if it fades? Will it still be "cool" or relevant in 20 years? I know there are better removal techniques now, but still.

Lastly, While the color is better and sharper than in the past, I haven't seen anything where I felt it was an enhancement of the body. If they get it where it's stays as vivid as when it's first done (Like still healing bright) then I'd be more interested.

I tinker with the idea every couple of years the subject comes up, but generally it hasn't been for me. Plus there's always that lay's potato chip syndrome I hear about: "You can't get just one" and that scares me. I don't want to wake up one day COVERED with thoughtless permanent body art.

[JiveJust]

Some people are just over the top. I saw a guy in traffic court last month with tribal tattoos ON HIS FACE like he was apocalypto. I'm sure that impressed the judge! lol.



Was he Maori?

[dongrammar]

Well this thread got big fast!

Incase anyone still remembers the first post my little bro seems to have gone off the idea for the time being...

[2 Loud 4 You]

Well this thread got big fast!

Incase anyone still remembers the first post my little bro seems to have gone off the idea for the time being...

Well if he's not sure then it's best he wait.

[Zilmo]

TRUTH,thank you very much! :)



Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!

Good one! Thanks for that!

[Yankee Univox]

Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!

Good one! Thanks for that! I'm going to publicly ask you to back off.You want to talk about 'having a hard on for somebody'...well,apparently for some reason you've developed one for me.If you don't agree with my views,fine,but stop trolling my posts.

Go get a hobby,or you know like,PLAY SOME GEEEE TRRRRRR OR SOMTHIN'!!!! :warning

[Frankee]

Wow. Is it really a big deal?

[MudPies]

Teh Gere Paige is ser biznez

[8Painting]

Does anyone else find it interesting that it is exactly the 'holier than thou,judgemental,finger pointing,ultra conservative,you should be like me' types who are always judging things like piercings,tattoos, males with long hair etc. etc. who are ultimately responsible for decimating this country?:huh


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...:bong

Being prejudice is part of human nature.

I'm not saying all people covered in flash are idiots.

But I can best most are.

[SybianRiot]

"Does anyone else find it interesting that it is exactly the 'holier than thou,judgemental,finger pointing,ultra conservative,you should be like me' types who are always judging things like piercings,tattoos, males with long hair etc. etc. who are ultimately responsible for decimating this country?:huh"

Not real sure about that. They may not be fun to party with or be around but, for the most part, they are productive members of society who aren't gonna rob or rape you or knock somebody up without any sense of responsibility for what they've created. On the flip side, most pierced, tattooed males with long hair that I've met are hard working folks as well with a sense of personal responsibility and a strong work ethic. The ultimate decimators are actually....well, that would be a political post so I'll stop right there.

[Traps]

Watch "The Illustrated Man" first, then decide :banana

[tbar]

i dated a girl who had one on her belly, looked cool when she was in her twenties not so cool as she got older

[Bluedawg]

When I grew up in the late 60s and 70s many WW2 vets were still young and just beginning to age.

Tattoos were the indecipherable blobs on those vet's forearms. That was enough to put me off.

Guess that makes me one of those conservative types that are destroying the country.

There's people with tats from all walks and points of view these days so I try to avoid judging a person based on them.

Mostly none of my business what people do to themselves ... whether I like or not.

:banana

[JiveJust]

Well this thread got big fast!

Incase anyone still remembers the first post my little bro seems to have gone off the idea for the time being...


Good to hear. It's a huge decision.

[mrmjp]

wait until you are over 30, sanity will kinda have returned by then, and you will be less likely to have something you will regret. I may even wait until 40.

[Gas-man]

White collar conservative flashing down the street,
pointing their plastic finger at me.
They're hoping soon my kind will drop and die, but
I'm gonna wave my freak flag high.

Man, do I love that song...?


Hey man, is it like 1968 still?

[ImmortalSix]

I think they are cool, a good way to honor a certain part of your life.

My rule of thumb is never say "I'm getting a tattoo, what should it be of?"

but rather do the opposite,

"_______ means so much to me / represents such an important time in my life / reminds me of my grandfather, etc, I think I will immortalize that in ink."

I have a couple of tattoos, all covered with clothing (they're for me, not you), and none of them came from wanting a tattoo.

-Hunter

[scott]

Ive got a full sleeve of well done portraits on my right arm.
Its a reminder to me of a certain time in my life I dont want to forget.
Thats it, thats all. They look cool yes, but thats not why I got them. One of them I dont really like but in a few years it can be covered, otherwise Im happy with how the rest turned out.
There are so many people getting tattoos that shouldnt get them. It is a fad lately because of the tattoo shows and whatnot. Removal is a big business and will be even bigger in 10 years. It will probably be less painfull and less expensive so if there ever is a time when I want them gone it can be done. Im not to worried about it anyway, I doubt Ill ever remove them.
Its a totally different artform than the stuff you hang on your wall. You cant really compare it to that. to be honest I dont even notice them anymore, it just like my ears and nose they are just there. Part of my body Im so use to it