Celestion Silver AlNiCo Question

[BozoTone]

OK you celestion speaker gurus. I just bought a silver framed 12" Celestion that looks exactly like an original Celestion Silver AlNiCo down to the magnet cover. There is not a speaker sticker in the center. The frame code is 335070-6B.The paper cone code says WF100. I don't have a camera so I can't take any pictures. SO, any thoughts???
BZT

[fast1]

i don't get what you are asking about.http://photosnag.com/img/3322/n09x0302vnsn/clear.gif

[BozoTone]

I don't think it is the highly coveted "Vox Silver" AlNiCo. I think it has to have 102 003 paper and a different frame code. I am just wondering what this is or what it might be worth.....
BZT

[OrangeAD30TC]

I bet it still sounds killer...

[SatelliteAmps]

Is there a date code on the frame? Is the cone original? Which version of the speaker is it (they came in multiple wattages). Worth somewhere between about $100-$400 depending on which one, originality, and condition.

[Scumback Speakers]

The cone code is that of a Waldom recone kit. They were W1009, W1008, sometimes with WF in front of the numbers. Sounds like yours has an incomplete stamping. The Waldom cones are not renowned for their tone in vintage speaker circles.

[BozoTone]

Adam. I think Jim from Southbay answered most of my or your questions. I have done a lot of speaker research in the past on other Celestions but only recently on Silvers. I felt I had enough info to say it wasn't one of the "goodies" and was wondering what version it was also. I had seen some of the Silver AlNiCo's go for good money but was really interested in what I was hearing as being a good representation of a true Celestion AlNiCo. I only paid $84.00 for this in a Marshall Lead 20 amp. I would say condition is a 9. The frame is also "hard stamped", not ink stamped, saying "Made In England"
Jim...what would a good recone cost, and where should I send it to be done correct, paper (Pulsonic type) and all???
BZT

[Scumback Speakers]

You can't get the Pulsonic paper anymore. That was history in 1974 when they changed paper pulp type. To get that type of tone you have to do some chemical aging, specific doping and break in which is how the Scumbacks are done for me.

You might have one of the P44 model Alnico Celestions (discontinued, no Celestion recone kit available, BTW). They look like the T1656 Silver Alnico model, but have a very lightweight magnet. That makes the speaker less efficient (by a good 20-30%) than the regular model.

They also don't have a standard cone kit. I bought one from a member in Canada and had him ship it to Weber VST. They had to modify the Scumback voice coil/cone fit to make it work, so it's definitely a one off adventure. Can you email me some pics of the frame, front back, etc? Then I could compare it to mine and tell you what you've got...or if I've never seen it.

You might also want to check the weight of the speaker. If it's around 9-10 lb, that's good. If it's around 7-8, that's the P44.