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fuzzfoot
06-16-2009, 03:00 PM
Normally I wouldn't think to compare a Kingsley Jester to a BJFE Model H. They are both completely different beasts and are both fantastic pedals in their own right. But today I chained them both up to see how they interact and stack. I didn't expect that, by the end, I would consider permanently removing the Model H from the board. Let me explain:

I've had the Model H for a few weeks now and really couldn't have been happier with it. It does exactly what it was designed to do: Live at Leeds. Cleans up to almost pure clean, stacks like crazy with other drives and fuzzes. No hype, just great Hiwattesque tones.

I received a second-hand Kingsley Jester (thanks Christian!) last week and finally had some time to experiment this weekend. Enough has been written regarding its fantastic sounds and the multi-faceted features are a huge plus.

What I discovered is that the Jester is completely capable of emulating the tone of the Model H. I had it set so that I could barely distinguish between the two. The Jester sounded a touch more clear and perhaps a bit better to my ears. Of course, I did not buy a Jester to emulate a Model H, but rather stumbled on to it while experimenting.

Settings on Jester were: (no boost) Bass @ noon, Middle @ 100%, Treble @ 2 O'clock, Volume @ 9 O'clock, Gain @ 3 O'clock, and the OD set to level 3. From here I could cover all of the Model H's best tones and still have a vast array of different drive and boost settings to boot.

Equipment used: Fender Strat w/ Texas Specials/1982 Stock Gibson Les Paul Custom, Amp: Allen Sweet Spot.

This comparison is also a testament of how well the Model H can simulate an overdriven Hiwatt amp. But in the end, it is a one trick pony and, coupled with the high second-hand price or long wait period, there is no reason not consider a Jester for the same application. The Jester is a horse capable of many tricks and availability is not out of the realm of possibility.

Cheers,

Mike :drink

bjjp2
06-16-2009, 03:08 PM
I have a Jester and am on the waiting list for a Model H. Maybe I don't need one? But settings above are meaningless without knowing what kind of guitar and amp you're using.

fuzzfoot
06-16-2009, 03:27 PM
I have a Jester and am on the waiting list for a Model H. Maybe I don't need one? But settings above are meaningless without knowing what kind of guitar and amp you're using.

I knew I forgot something! Equipment added to original post.

I don't want to keep anyone from buying a Model H. I was just pleasantly surprised with what the Jester is capable of and happened to have an H to compare.

I should also note that they both clean up differently. I would give the clean-up edge to the Model H as its volume-loss to clean-up ratio is better than the Jester. Does that even make sense? :dunno

NewarkWilder
06-16-2009, 03:51 PM
Interesting! The Jester surely is a wonderful piece of gear.

I love my Model H but its so strange to see so much talk about it of late. I mean, theres like less than 15 of them in existence!

You really have to want that BJFE magic to justify a) seeking out and finding and b) shelling out the dough for an H, but if thats your thing, more power to ya! Personally I like the tiny footprint and have other ODs for Kingslyesque stuff... mainly my amp ;)

But it is certainly quite the compliment! Reminds me of when I "found" some damn near indistinguishable tones in the Ethos that made me decide to sell my Fetto of all things.

IG88
06-16-2009, 05:07 PM
interesting indeed

justonwo
06-16-2009, 05:35 PM
Hmmm . . . what volumes were you testing? Bedroom? Full performance volume?

fuzzfoot
06-16-2009, 06:06 PM
Hmmm . . . what volumes were you testing? Bedroom? Full performance volume?

I had the Sweet Spot volume at 2 o'clock, which is what I play live with. This is LOUD for this amp. Also had equal amounts of volume/input coming from each pedal. Even the feedback was similar. Didn't compare them at bedroom volume, but can try it out tomorrow.

justonwo
06-16-2009, 07:10 PM
No, loud is great. I think that's where you really hear the subtleties of pedals. Sometimes I wonder how many of the pedal reviews we see are prejudiced by very low volumes. Anyway, very cool to hear there's a competitor for the Model H. One of these days I might check it out! Thanks for the review.

bjjp2
06-16-2009, 07:45 PM
I just tried those settings with a strat and it nearly took my head off. I was afraid to even try an LP. That's some loud s**t. Didn't sound very good to me, but I think this is all very axe, room, and amp dependent.

fuzzfoot
06-16-2009, 07:57 PM
I just tried those settings with a strat and it nearly took my head off. I was afraid to even try an LP. That's some loud s**t. Didn't sound very good to me, but I think this is all very axe, room, and amp dependent.

Yeah, you'll definitely have to adjust things depending on setup. Especially the Midrange. For my setup, this was the perfect recipe.

I'm not sure if the original owner of my Jester changed the glass, but I will double check on that too.

voojo
06-16-2009, 08:01 PM
:clips

bluesjuke
06-16-2009, 08:20 PM
Yeah, you'll definitely have to adjust things depending on setup. Especially the Midrange. For my setup, this was the perfect recipe.

I'm not sure if the original owner of my Jester changed the glass, but I will double check on that too.



I was wondering about that too as I am experimenting with my Jester now that I received just today.
The settings you state would blow my head off through my Vicky Deluxe at vol. 3..
The Jester is loud!

I've found most of the secrets to the settings but still it is a powerful beast.

I think a V1 change to a 12AT7 is in order.


Most of my favorite settings so far over a few hours are with the gain 9- 11 o'clock tops.
Anything above that even with the volume down is too much.

bjjp2
06-16-2009, 08:26 PM
I don't think I've ever had the volume on the Jester above 9:00. It's loud.

bluesjuke
06-16-2009, 08:38 PM
10 o'clock is the highest for me on the volume but that is with the gain very low.
So far I've had the nicest break up with P-90's.

79stratman
06-16-2009, 10:01 PM
I don't really NEED or want another loud pedal.

It sounds like the AT7 swap is going to be mandatory, whenever the pedal finally arrives.

Hope you are digging your new Jester!

bluesjuke
06-16-2009, 10:20 PM
I think the swap will make the Jester smoother at higher gain settings too.

The way it is stock I get some nice OD but don't push the breakup too far.
Keep in mind though you're starting with a 12ax7 and that's 100% gain.

I have found in my amps that a lower gain V1 is always a help and driving it is better afterwards.


Update; Just put a 5751 in V1 in the Jester and Man what a nice difference.

79stratman
07-15-2009, 10:51 PM
Just got mine today! :D

bluesjuke
07-15-2009, 10:55 PM
Still playing it?