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saltydogg
06-22-2009, 02:57 PM
Gents,

I've used the search function and I only found threads from when Marshall initially put the 425 cabinets on the market. The 4x12 came with these speakers- and the 'C' supposedly stand for 'collectable'......or does the 'C' stand for 'crap'?

Have any of you guys used these for longer periods of time? What's your take on them? I'd like some opinions if you have some to share.

A guy wants to trade me his 'Jimi' 425A Cabinet (purple) with the G12C stock speakers, but I don't have any experience with the speakers.....

Thanks.

stratton
06-22-2009, 03:37 PM
I have a 425. I really like the G12Cs for clean to mid-gain stuff. All my amps sound great through it, and it has become my favorite recording cab.

I do prefer V30s for high gain sounds, though.

saltydogg
06-22-2009, 05:32 PM
Can you give me some examples of what you consider 'high gain'?

Judas Priest? Slayer? Pantera? or more like Van Halen, Aerosmith?

saltydogg
06-23-2009, 05:47 PM
Nobody has any experience with these speakers or the Marshall 425 'purple' 4x12 cabinet?

SatelliteAmps
06-24-2009, 05:24 AM
The C is supposed to stand for collectable. Haven't spent too much time with them. Played them loud in a store, and they sounded similar to a regular Greenback. I didn't have a chance to A/B them with Greenbacks with an amp I knew, and my own guitar, etc.

BCRich86
06-24-2009, 05:58 AM
just this past weekend, I traded in my stock 1960B for a Vintage Modern B because it had the G12Cs in it, I loved it and couldn't leave the store with out it. I think it is smoother sounding and now I can turn up the treble a little on my JMP and not worry about my ears being peirced with high end like it was with the 75s. I keept thinking is was the amps I was going through that just wasn't warm enough until I played the two cabs side by side with the same head.
If I can get my hands on another one, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

MGSchindel
06-24-2009, 11:31 PM
The 425A and B Vintage Modern cabs and the jimi cabs are loaded with the G12C "classic ceramic", sounds a bit more like the original Greenback G12M 75hz than the brighter Chinese G12M reissues found in the reissue 1960BX cab and reissue 1960TV cab do. To my ear, the G12C is punchier and does the "brown sound" better than the EVH speaker which is just a relabeled G12M Heritage.

Random video of a 425C with G12C speakers, in action with a Bogner 101B:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MtmpMEMg-g

zombiwoof
06-26-2009, 01:22 PM
I've read that the "Van Halen" Celestion is actually that same speaker with a fancy paint job.

Al

MGSchindel
06-26-2009, 07:44 PM
I've read that the "Van Halen" Celestion is actually that same speaker with a fancy paint job.

Al

I've read that, but in fact, the EVH speaker is the G12M Heritage, relabeled, not the G12C.

Enajera
03-28-2010, 01:57 AM
The G12C is a great speaker. The "C" actually stands for ceramic. They are in the vintage modern cabs and the Jimi cab. I have the cab and the 1960hw and the 1960bx. The G12c is what I consider the in-betweener. I really like the cleans of the g12c, its not as bright as the G12H (55hz) and it still rocks out like the G12M. Appearance wise, the G12C has similar doping to the G12 H (55hz), which is very little. The G12M in the bx cab has the most doping when compared to the other two. All in all I like all three cabs. I can get a really great SRV sound with my C's and stil a great rock n roll sound (van halen). The H's sound more like hendrix. I play the C's and H's through a Marshall 1987x head (50w). And the M's through a 5150 head --- it rocks! Bottom line is that you can't go wrong with any of the three cabs. I like them all!!!!

Good luck!

MRscratch
03-28-2010, 03:14 AM
c is for ceramic. its what the originals were branded. the jimi cab has these.
it a g12m 25 aged to sound like a speaker the celestion/marshall people thought sounded most like the 60.s era greenback 25

RCCola
03-28-2010, 12:31 PM
I've owned a quad of them for about a year. They're very woody. Not as bright as G12M UKs I have.

The different resonant freq would explain the differences.

zombiwoof
03-29-2010, 02:29 PM
Aren't the C's 20 watt greenbacks? That's what the EVH speakers are, according to what I've read, and the labels (Eddie reportedly prefers the old 20 watt greenbacks).

Al

M@tt C
03-29-2010, 07:13 PM
Aren't the C's 20 watt greenbacks? That's what the EVH speakers are, according to what I've read, and the labels (Eddie reportedly prefers the old 20 watt greenbacks).

Al

They're 25 watters....I have the 425A cab, and it's rated at 100 watts.

LOVE those speakers!

MGSchindel
03-31-2010, 03:29 PM
Here's some visual food:

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/mgschindel/Greenbackreissuefamily001.jpg?t=1270070319

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/mgschindel/Greenbackreissuefamily008.jpg?t=1270070633

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/mgschindel/Greenbackreissuefamily015.jpg?t=1270070865