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charliet
07-26-2009, 02:40 AM
Hey everyone, new to this forum and have a problem with my recently purchased peavey classic 30.
I love it, I got it Thursday and gigged with it for the first time last night, a great vintage sound from it and can still crank it up at smallr venues, but...
I use a pedal board:
Fulltone Fulldrive2
Dunlop Wah
DD6 Delay
Boss Cs3 compressor
Dc Brick
Marshall supervibe chorus
Boss TU tuner
When I run these through the effects loop I get a horrible reverb/echo coming through. After a bit of research it seems that some effects loops dont allow for certain pedals and vice versa? When I used this setup through my old (now sold) Fender 212 deville I didnt have this problem..
What I'm asking is does anyone know of anything I might be able to do to get rid of the sound? I am going to eliminate the pedal today when I have time to make some noise but I guess Iwill have to run the pedals before the amp to ensure I dont get interference.
Has anyone had similar problems/issues??
Any general classic 30 related talk would be great to hear as well!

rockon1
07-26-2009, 07:37 AM
You miht try running the pedals thru the loop one at a time and see which ones work and which one/ones dont. Some like the wah and compressor,tuner,Fulltone might be better off in front of the amp.Bob

Rosewood
07-26-2009, 10:40 AM
Try just the delay/reverb effects in the loop, everything else in front of the amp.

Steve_2020
07-26-2009, 11:28 AM
As mentioned above, it's good to put boosts, wahs (and tuner) etc in front of the amp and time based effects in the loop. Compressor...hmmm. I'd go in front of the amp. Most folks will say 'whatever works for you' and I agree as it helps you find your own sound. But if it's not working, then you need to sort it out.

I used a Peavey Classic 30 for several years as my 'small gig' amp. I eventually wound up putting an OD and wah in front of the C30 then lined out of it's effects loop through everything else (chorus, echoes, rotary speaker sims etc) and brought these back into the effects 'in' of another small tube 1 X12 combo. I think it was an ampeg I'd paid $150 for.

Worked well and gave me stereo spread via the chorus. Nice. Set it to very light everything, unless you actually want a 'chorus' sound.

I 'seem to recall' the Peavey freaking out ("all reverb" etc ) when I tried putting several effects in it's very basic fx loop, Since I had a couple other 30/50 1X12 watt combos laying around, I just did the wet/dry thing.

Cool sound and fairly easy/fun to do if you have the extra amp. Somehwere in the effects chain there probably needs to be a device with a level control so you can balance the amps.

This (about 15 years ago) was my first lesson in effects tone sucking- and how to get rid of it. Prior to going wet/dry I had a bunch of stuff in front of the Peavey and also in front of another, larger amp for bigger gigs ... and several other (mismatched?) pedals/boxes in their effects loops. This setup sorta worked with the bigger amp, and flat out didn't with the Peavey..

After I simplified the front end stuff and used another combo amp for the wet stuff, my tone got huge (again). I didn't know anything back then, less than I know now anyway:) - and hadn't noticed my tone slowly thinning out as I acquired and added in effects over time. Till I got the Peavy and hit the wall and was forced to try another way..

There were some hit and run small gigs (barbecues, boat cruises) where I needed small and fast set up and went with OD->wah-> chorus->delay into the Peavey. Sucked a bit of tone but worked. Eventually I got a modeling amp for these kinds of jobs.
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This all being said, I have a freind who is a fulltime pro player and uses 6 or 7 pedals in front of his mesa rectoverb head and a lexicon for echo in the loop. His pedalboard is professionally done and I believe his rule is to keep total cable length below approx 20-22 feet or so on all the stuff (including his guitar cable) before the amp input- allowing 1" in the equation for each 1/4" plug to 1/4 plug metal to metal adaptor..he uses a lot of these. But there is also true bypass/buffering and a bunch of things to figure in.

Whatever he's doing is right because he has great, thick tone. And access to the effects he needs..

When I jam with him I use just an od and a demeter compulator in front of the amp and a fairly cheap lexicon in the loop for echo and/or reverb (if I use my marshall 30th, it has no reverb).