Timmy Owners can you confirm

[eriwebnerr]

I know this pedal gets a lot of love here, so I'm now a little embarrassed to say that I dismissed it as a TS variant. I'm also a little embarrassed to say that I own Dano CTO and thought I had that base completely covered.

Well, the CTO has been getting a lot of board time lately which made me curious about the real thing. After hearing a you tube vid comparing the 2, to me the difference was pretty drastic. The CTO has some of that nasally, congested mids that I hate in TS pedals and their spawn. But the Timmy sounded much more transparent and none of the congestion.

I was hoping Tim / Timmy owners can chime in on the midrange and if there is any TS congestion. I'm looking to play this through a clean amp at near unity gain.

Thanks!

[gruenburger]

i hate my modified ts9 to death, but i love my timmy.

[plectric]

LOVE my timmy. With the Bass and Treble, you can get a Screamer sound if you want it, but it can be very open as well. The trick for me is to roll the eq's up (which cuts) as you add more gain. Just like a Deluxe Reverb, you need to get the tubbiness out as you gain it up. Treble to taste, I like it rolled off a bit.

FWIW, I have a TubeScreamer clone on my board as well as the Timmy. Use them for different things. The screamer does it's thing and cuts through like it should. But the Timmy just makes my amp sound more pushed, breaking up. I would never sell it.

[SixStringMojo]

I'm almost ashamed to admit that I was really disappointed when I got the Timmy. I didn't appreciate the tonal qualities it added.

It's not my fault. I learned to play guitar by watching Def Leppard and Ratt videos.

[erksin]

It may use a similar opamp, but it doesn't sound anything like a TS.

Clear and open, lots of chord definition, amp-like decay, wide freq spread - definitely NOT a TS variant.

[FenderBigot]

It's not my fault. I learned to play guitar by watching Def Leppard and Ratt videos.
Now THAT was funny!

[Boogsy]

sounds nothing like a TS to me. Much more open

[zerorez]

I'm almost ashamed to admit that I was really disappointed when I got the Timmy. I didn't appreciate the tonal qualities it added.

It's not my fault. I learned to play guitar by watching Def Leppard and Ratt videos.

Tim or Timmy beside doing clean boost or unity gain will do the nice JTM or Plexi crunch like early AC/DC malcom sounds

Leppard or Ratt you will want a higher gain OD/Dist pedal. there are alot of pedals out there for the higher gain JCM800 type distortion.

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[jero]

I was hoping Tim / Timmy owners can chime in on the midrange and if there is any TS congestion. I'm looking to play this through a clean amp at near unity gain.

Thanks!

there's no TS congestion / compression in a Timmy.

[plectric]

I'm almost ashamed to admit that I was really disappointed when I got the Timmy. I didn't appreciate the tonal qualities it added.

It's not my fault. I learned to play guitar by watching Def Leppard and Ratt videos.

LOL! I grew up in that era too, nothing you can do about it. FWIW, I'm pretty sure Phill Collen used a lot of Scholz gear (Rockman), so miles away from the Timmy. As people mentioned, that's a more high gain endeavor, not the Timmy's strongest suit.

[eriwebnerr]

Thanks guys this has been very helpful! I usually label a pedal a TS variant by ear not schematic. To me the CTO sounds like a variant whereas the Timmy did not in the clips I heard. Thanks for confirming!
I guess in this case the Dano was a stepping stone to the real thing, it sure doesn't seem like a substitute.

[eriwebnerr]

OH and if possible can some one PLEASE post a clip of a Screwdriver into a Tim / Timmy?
I hear many folks recommend this combination. This is what I will be doing but I would like to hear the mojo!
Thanks!

[roknfnrol]

Get the Timmy. I was in the same boat as you with my Dano CTO. The Timmy rules.

[Dog Boy]

Everything in its place. But yeah, if you are trying to make a TS do the Timmy's job you are going to be dissapointed.

[Sniper-V]

Timmy is great!

You have a lot of eq room to voice it how you like.
Also works well as a straight across boost which is sort of how I prefer to use it.
I like setting it on the verge of breaking up my amps.
Works wonders with my Xits Piper XTB and Sadie XS.

Not a TS at all.

[droptrd]

I have a CTO and I like it. But, I figured if this knock off rocks, the real thing must RULE. So I recently got put on the list for a Timmy. Should have one by Oct. FWIW, I didnt think the CTO is TSish at all. I bought it blind online and was actualy quite pleased when I 1st plugged into it. That being said, its not perfect. Its not as responsive and dimensional as the Timmy clips Ive heard.

[coot tone]

I LOVE Timmy...so much I bought a Tim to use for its OD qualities and I used the Timmy as a boost/mild rhythm overdrive/stacker.

Incredible pedals made by a very nice man, at an incredible price, IMHO.

[Big B]

I should have one around October as well. I'm looking forward to it!

[lespauldoc]

I have the Tim and will vouch for it NOT being a TS sounding pedal.

Paul Cochrane designed the Tim to be more of a dirty boost with an EQ to cut the freq he didn't want. By its very nature, it only spits out what you put in, unless you "cut" out what you don't want to hear. It has no mid hump and you cannot add it.
Very transparent pedal.
I love it.

[TenneyThe2nd]

TIM is not at all a TS.

It makes your amp sound like you went from 5 to 8 with no added volume, then the boost is about the perfect amount of extra volume for leads. Perfectly transparent, retains your own dynamics, and makes any pedals you stack into it sound better.

It's the one pedal I will never be without.

[Iggster]

The Timmy, like most great pedals, is really a quite unique beast. It sort of sounds like a Marshall amp, but it has a myriad of other applications, if you choose to use it that way. It is one of the best pedals I've ever bought.

[gtTelejoe]

I've got a Dano CTO-1 and it is way more open, transparent and responsive than my TS derivatives. Apples and oranges between it and a TS. Its a great pedal. I hear great things about the Timmy and I've heard clips of it. Nice open pedal too.

I use my Dano over my Love Pedal Eternity, Route 808, Boosta Grande, HomeBrew Germania and HT Dual retubed. The Dano covers more ground because of its transparency and open, not congested character. I won't get rid of the others though due to the flavors they offer.

For $40 how can you fault it for coming a bit short of a Timmy and why the heck would you be embarrassed?

[sodapopinski]

Timmy rocks!!!!

[Passenger84]

Not that you need someone else saying this, lol, but just in case...the Tim and Timmy are extremely transparent and natural sounding overdrives that work with your amp's overdrive. No mid humps (unless your amp has an unreasonable mid hump), and definitely not a tubescreamer sound. :)

[coot tone]

What Iggster, sodapopinski, and Passenger84 said. Timmy is one of those pedals like the Sunlion (not that it's germanium fuzz) in that it takes a while to get to know it and explore it's vast possibilities.

[MERCYFULFATE]

i have been waiting for my Timmy for 3 months.

[jbussiere]

The timmy is the opposite of congested IMO. It is so open and transparent, especially at a slightly cleaner setting (so you can stack it). But, the the thing I was MOST impressed (and I'm sure the Dano doesn't come close on this) was the bass response. O man, the bass response is ridiculous, turned my strat into a whole new beast. The treble/bass knob are very responsive, which is why they are backwards from what I hear...

All in all, if you are using your CTO alot, you should get the real thing, it's just....better

[eriwebnerr]

For $40 how can you fault it for coming a bit short of a Timmy and why the heck would you be embarrassed?

Good point. I'm not faulting the CTO, it's great for what it is. I'm faulting my perception that because I owned a CTO, I owned a Timmy.

As this was a topic where people have very strong view points, I was both treading lightly and adjusting my own view. Sort of publicly acquiescing to what had been the "otherside" of the argument.

[scuzzles]

I didnt wait at all. I picked up one on Ebay for $200. Had it in a few days. It certainly didnt blow me away..but it does seem to really add a nice flavor onto the built in distortion with the Marshall DSL100. I use it to juice up leads or keep it on during sweaty rock songs, where I want some swagger. Using the Timmy w/o distortion doesnt sound great to me. Thats what my Fulltone Fat Boost is for.

[DPiddy]

Used to have the CTO, bought the Tim and it's WAY better. The CTO sounded compressed a bit to me and it also was super hard to adjust with those damn knobs doubled up on the back. The Tim is amazing. NEVER going to sell it.