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Sir Ricardo
08-24-2009, 06:10 PM
Hello!

I've got a 1964 Princeton, and it's got a CTS speaker in it.

Code 137006. Another set of numbers is 064121

So, I see the "064" in the 064121 and wonder if it is a 1964 speaker. On the other hand, when I did a web search, I found a source that said that after the "137" (CTS code) you'll find the date. 006 = 6th week of "0" which could be 1960 (but that wouldn't work for this speaker) or 1970 (which is possible.)

So what do you fine folks think; 1964, 1970, or some other year?

I've got photos below to assist.....thanks in advance for your thoughts.

best - Richard
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http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae214/ricardomagnificent/Fender%20CTS%20speaker/IMG_0988.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae214/ricardomagnificent/Fender%20CTS%20speaker/IMG_0990.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae214/ricardomagnificent/Fender%20CTS%20speaker/IMG_0991.jpg

JJman
08-24-2009, 06:16 PM
Not 1964.

Could be 1970.

Guitar Dave T
08-24-2009, 07:05 PM
It's a replacement CTS speaker, made the 64th week of 1970.

A 10" CTS speakers from 1964 would have been coded 1374xx, and would have had a "swiss cheese" style speaker basket. Also, the early 60's CTS ceramic 10's were regarded as some of the worse sounding speakers Fender ever used.

The late 60's - 70's CTS ceramic 10's were pretty decent, OTOH. One of the best sounding Super Reverbs I ever owned was loaded up with 'em. There's some buzz that CTS may be coming out with a reissue of this speaker.

Sir Ricardo
08-24-2009, 07:23 PM
It's a replacement CTS speaker, made the 64th week of 1970.



As Yogi Berra said, "I didn't really say everything I said"

http://www.retrogalaxy.com/sports/yogi-berra.asp

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slider313
08-25-2009, 05:57 AM
Either the 6th week of 1970 or 1980, and I'm thinking it 1980 by the size of the magnet.

solitaire
08-25-2009, 09:12 AM
It's a replacement CTS speaker, made the 64th week of 1970.That would make the 6th week of 71, then, eh? ;) *lol*

Guitar Dave T
08-25-2009, 09:50 AM
As Yogi Berra said, "I didn't really say everything I said"

http://www.retrogalaxy.com/sports/yogi-berra.asp

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Excuse moi. I still had 1964 floating around in my head from the previous post. Make that the 6th week of 1970, or possibly 1980 as someone pointed out.

The codes for speakers, chokes, transformers and pots all work like this:

6 digits, the first 3 are the manufacturer's code (137=CTS), the 4th is the year (0=1970, 1980, etc.), and the 5th and 6th are the week (06=6th week).

famouspogs
09-07-2009, 05:51 PM
Could anyone tell me the date of my Fender speaker? It has 005379 and C1098038 written on it on it. Heres a picture http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1725/dsci0323.jpg

slider313
09-07-2009, 07:18 PM
Could anyone tell me the date of my Fender speaker? It has 005379 and C1098038 written on it on it. Heres a picture

Those numbers don't look familiar but the frame looks like it's a Utah or Oxford. What does it say on the small sticker with Fender on it?

famouspogs
09-07-2009, 07:34 PM
Those numbers don't look familiar but the frame looks like it's a Utah or Oxford. What does it say on the small sticker with Fender on it?

it had a nearly faded serial number. the speaker was in a bag end cabinet and it was not pulled out of any other amplifier when it was put in because the paper where the screws go for the speaker to be screwed in hasn't been broken(the bag end cabinet has clasps that hold onto the speaker)

Tidewater Custom Shop
09-07-2009, 08:14 PM
Here's a great source (http://www.provide.net/~cfh/pots.html)for all kinds of codes. although I didn't specifically see a code beginning with a "C" or "005", the 1098 showed up as a Pyle.

famouspogs
09-08-2009, 01:49 AM
Here's a great source (http://www.provide.net/%7Ecfh/pots.html)for all kinds of codes. although I didn't specifically see a code beginning with a "C" or "005", the 1098 showed up as a Pyle.

That appears to be the speaker. Can anyone give more information on pyle speakers?

nrand
02-13-2010, 04:40 AM
Its in my recently purchased Fender Super twin c 1975. the 180W leather lunged beast used by people such as SRV and Frank Zappa
the codes on the speaker frame read:
8OHM
328615
012742
V12VSG9
I think this is correct - a couple of the numbers are a bit smudged

flatliner
10-16-2010, 04:33 AM
What about these?

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af354/arkeetek/65%20Super%20Reverb/P9300001.jpg