Does Grover make all-metal tuners that'll fit directly in Gibson Kluson-spaced holes?

[odd]

I've given up on the Gibsons. Anyone can recommend a set of Grovers with metal handles (dunno the English term), that'll fit the small holes for the old Gibson Deluxe tuners?

[Old Tele man]

"...metal handles..." = "buttons" (sometimes)

[odd]

Ah, yes - buttons they are!

[walterw]

are we talking about the kind with the screw-down hex-collar bushings? if so, the current ones gibson uses are grovers.

or, are we talking about the kind with the smaller press-fit bushings, as used on gibson historics? those would be made by gotoh, and are better than anything grover currently makes.

oh, and if your problem is tuning stability, that's got nothing to do with the keys anyway.

[odd]

are we talking about the kind with the screw-down hex-collar bushings? if so, the current ones gibson uses are grovers.

or, are we talking about the kind with the smaller press-fit bushings, as used on gibson historics? those would be made by gotoh, and are better than anything grover currently makes.

oh, and if your problem is tuning stability, that's got nothing to do with the keys anyway.

The problem is that one of them broke its cover, and they just don't seem to be good quality.

I haven't see Gotoh tuners in the places I've checked - are they commercially available as spare kits?

[walterw]

The problem is that one of them broke its cover, and they just don't seem to be good quality.

I haven't see Gotoh tuners in the places I've checked - are they commercially available as spare kits?
that is the problem with the screw-down type, those covers are cast pot metal instead of bent steel like they should be.

the gotohs, which are steel and thus less fragile, will fit if you use adapter bushings. allparts sells (http://www.allparts.com/store/tuning-keys-3-x-3-tuning-keys-tk-0770-001,Product.asp) both (http://www.allparts.com/store/tuning-keys-bushings-buttons-tk-0900-001,Product.asp).