Turbo Tuner ... Strobostomp ... or Pitchblack ???

[BobboVisMe]

I figured this might be a interesting poll ... Please vote for the tuner of your choice ... If you'd like , Please explain why you picked one tuner over the other ... :beer

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[FenderBigot]

PB for its smaller size, how sturdy it is, its reliability and it's just damn cool looking!

[theanalogdream]

I have the pitchblack, and the lack of speed when it tracks notes, and the lack of accuracy drives me bonkers!

The Turbo Tuner wins hands down, I'm in the process of selling the pitchblack

[rockguitardude]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bY9H7ec6_0

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[walterw]

do a search, tons of threads about this.

[Rick Towne]

Turbo is the best.

[PEImatrix]

I've tried the Peterson, and while I'm sure it's very accurate, I need something small, and that I can easily read at a gig. TT or PB IMO

[Gtr65]

+100 for the Turbo Tuner

[cbpickin]

I've had them all and the Turbo wins, no contest.

[Last Nerve]

I have to say, after owning them all
the Turbo Tuner is quicker, easier to red, smaller
and more solidly built than the others.
Amazing price, too.
I'll never own another tuner.

[twinrider1]

Strobostomp. Haven't tried the others. TT wasn't out when I bought my SS2.

[Shiny_Beast]

I've only tried the turbo, great little pedal

[sutherland]

The Peterson reminds me of Robocop...

[otaypanky]

I liked the Peterson a lot but it took up a good bit of space on my pedalboard. I sold it for a Turbo because of the smaller size. I thought the Peterson was a bit easier to read after you get accustomed to it..

[freaksho]

i'm a TT user. my decision was based on price, accuracy, true bypass (i use a separate buffer) and size & construction of box. and i actually like the rotating display.

[tonymcbony]

Pitchblack. I own it, it works well, and is cheap. What's not to like?

[MeMota]

Can the Turbo be programmed for the Peterson's "sweetened" guitar tuning?

I think it can be programmed, but what ARE the right settings for "sweetened"?

[John Thigpen]

I liked the Peterson a lot but it took up a good bit of space on my pedalboard. I sold it for a Turbo because of the smaller size. I thought the Peterson was a bit easier to read after you get accustomed to it..

Ditto.

John

[CitizenAudio]

Pitchblack. I own it, it works well, and is cheap. What's not to like?

I honestly think it is not even worth upgrading to the Turbo Tuner if you already have a pitchblack but it is far faster and more accurate. Is that worth it? Up to you. I love the Turbo Tuner.

[coreybox]

I prefer the SS for ease of use. I use a TT cause it's cheaper, better looking, and smaller.

[madscientist]

I've owned the SS and the TT. IMO, the TT is far better. Takes up less space, tracks quickly and tunes as accurately. Build quality is fantastic and it's cheaper.

[ibanez4life SZ!]

I'd say it depends on your situation.

I'm a gigging guitarist. I owned the SS, and got rid of it as I simply ended up taking too much time tuning. The added accuracy does take a little more attention and a calm hand to get it perfect IMO. When I had the adrenaline flowing at a high octane rock show, it just didn't work for me.

Got the pitchblack, and it's been so much better. More than accurate enough, and quick on stage.

[jamison162]

do a search, tons of threads about this.

Then stop posting in this one...get your own...get outa here, beat it. :roll

1. Strobostomp 2
2. Pitchblack
3. Turbo Tuner

And yes, this is my honest opinion having tried all 3.

[fuzzfoot]

Seems to me that these polls only work when the voters have owned all of the units being compared..................

[Lance]

I went with the Pitchblack. It seems fine to me. I see no reason to spend money there, when I could put it towards a Pig Mine, or an Echo Baby, or an EP-Pre, or a, or a, or a...

Someone please tell me there will be an end to this...some day!

[charmboy]

I've owned all 3... I rank them, without question in this order:

1. Turbo Tuner
2. Pitch Black
3. Strobo Stomp

The strobo was more accurate than the Pitch Black but it had too many shortcomings to list. The ONLY plus it has over the others that the display can be seen in direct sunlight and it can be used as a DI box(which I never used anyway). I could be completely happy with the Pitch Black and actually prefer the display over all 3, but the Turbo is just so outstanding in tracking and accuracy that I'll never turn back.

[willyredeemed]

after reading this thread, i placed an order for the turbo tuner :/

[coldfingaz]

No contest... ST-200

[The Kid]

Turbo Tuner is my hands down favorite.

[GuitarToma]

Turbo. Easy. The spinning wheel of lights? Come on!

[slopeshoulder]

I like pitchblack (seems fast and accurate enough) and I like how I can daisy chain power a few pedals off it. But I guess I could do that directly off the PP2 without PB in the middle...

[mcdonaldkd]

My Peterson Strobo Stomp is going to the emporium, I think. Still trying to figure out if I really want to sell it. I am now using the the Turbo Tuner, though. I really like the Stobo Stomp, but I needed the real esate on my board. Strobo was fast and accurate, just a little too large for me.

[willyredeemed]

this thread is making converts

[furry]

The Turbo is freaking OUTSTANDING. I'll go out on a limb and say it's the best money I've ever spent on a pedal.

Just a fantastic product at a very fair price.

[Bobbyoso]

TurboTuner. It's the most accurate, you can do setups/intonation with it, it's very sturdy (ST-200, don't have a 122), locks on extremely fast--and stays locked on, you can program Feiten offsets and other tunings/temperaments into it, and I have never had issues with its display, either in terms of "intuitiveness" nor readability in direct sunlight.

The proverbial better mousetrap, IMO.

[TheMandolinGuy]

So how about if we throw in the Hardwire Tuner as well?

[coreybox]

So how about if we throw in the Hardwire Tuner as well?

It has the same specs as the pitch black

[plexistack]

Turbo Tuner - specs baby! specs!

[rastaman]

Turbo, hands down. Accuracy, construction, size, ease of use, etc. etc.

[DeaconBlues]

I've only owned the SS and the PB. I prefer the PB. Still have a Strobo Flip for the bench, though.

[TheMandolinGuy]

It has the same specs as the pitch black

But what about reliability? I guess it might be too new a pedal to say, but I've read a few things about the pitch black that would make me wonder if it can hold its own in the long run.

[droptrd]

The turbo tuner is deffinately awesome but myself its a bit much for live gigs. The PB is works excellent for me and I am very comfortable with it on my live board. PB for me

[teleplayer20]

Pitchblack all the way man...

[MjCartney]

I haven't tried the Turbo, but the display turns me off to it.

The PitchBlack isn't very accurate at all. A=440 isn't the same as on my other tuners, It tunes sharp, the display is sometimes hard to read, it's jittery, and it is unreadable in sunlight. I like the form factor, but the rest of it isn't working for me very well, so it's off the board again.

The StroboStomp is my pick because it is accurate, easy to use, and doesn't wash out in sunlight. I hate the form factor, this is the ugliest pedal design I've ever seen and it's larger than it needs to be. However, it tunes well, and has always been a solid performer. I have the original blue one, and a grey Strobo 2. Dig them both.

[guitarb]

I have both a Turbo and Strobostomp and while the Strobostomp is a quality tuner...the TT's speed and accuracy is superior to the strobo. The TT will have a long home on my live rig. The strobo sits on my practice board.

[shredtrash]

I haven't tried the others but I've been a big Stobostomp fan since they came out. I have 2!

[echoes90]

Only used the pitchblack and think it's great.

[BobboVisMe]

do a search, tons of threads about this.



I figured getting the POLL numbers would give a good indicator as to what is prefered here at a glance ... Also I didn't see a thread where all 3 of these tuners were pitted against each other .......... :banana

[Ben C.]

I figured getting the POLL numbers would give a good indicator as to what is prefered here at a glance ... Also I didn't see a thread where all 3 of these tuners were pitted against each other ..........
Poll numbers are a nice addition...
But as you've probably seen in every thread about the SS, TT, or PB, they do turn into a grudge match between the pedals in question. So yea, they are unofficially pitted against each other in every tuner thread.

That said, I picked the Turbo Tuner over the StroboStomps. The tabletop TT replaced my VS-II, and the pedal version of the Turbo Tuner replaced my StroboStomps. Both my SS1 and SS2 had crackly jacks, the SS2 had screen flashing issues, and believe it or not, my pedal chain sounded better without the SS's in the chain (and yes, I had them set to true-bypass). Not to mention the real strobe Turbo Tuner has a much more clear and faster responding visual system than the software-driven strobe-emulating software in the StroboStomps. IMO.

[jtg116]

I just got my Turbo Tuner today. Easy to use and accurate. The Strobo Stomp is really good to, but the TT is smaller cheaper and easier to read. Also, I ordered it Thurs. and it was at my door from California Sat! Fits nice in the compartment of the guitar cases too. I'm happy!

[raph]

The Turbo Tuner is nearly perfect.

[BobboVisMe]

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f240/bobbovisme/2009_05150012.jpg:YinYang

[NeilYoungFan]

I had a Peterson SS2 and got a TT for my second board. Haven't managed to bond with it yet. Peterson gets my vote.

[mfolet]

I had all tree and hands down Turbo Tuner is the winner for me.It takes a beating and keeps on working.

[12guitdown]

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f240/bobbovisme/2009_05150012.jpg:YinYang
I never realized the Ross was so big. Bigger than the Klon and makes the Rat look like a mouse.

[BobboVisMe]

I never realized the Ross was so big. Bigger than the Klon and makes the Rat look like a mouse.


It's worth the real estate it takes up ... There is no smoother flange in my book !!! :rockin

[VA_siCkBoy]

I just wanted to say I scored a used pitchblack today at GC for $49. Basically brand new.
I freakin love this thing! Before I was using a Boss TU-12 through a Morley ABY box.
It's fast enough for me and I love the mute and the display. So much easier to read.

[Fretgears]

The reason the turbo tuner absolutely kills for me is that it shows the actual vibration of the string, which is why it can be so accurate. I hear people say that it "isn't for live use" which is nonsense. Once you've used it for a week, not only will you be tuning more quickly and more accurately, but you will have a lot more time before you drift out of tune since you were more accurately tuned in the first place.

And that is what is killer, because you can finally train your ear to hear the notes as they are meant to be heard because you will be closer to being in tune.

The value for what it can do for your playing to practice with accurately tuned strings far outweighs the small investment in such a useful tool. $129 bucks isn't bad for something that can be transformational to your playing.

[CitizenAudio]

Again, the turbo tuner is the tuner of the century! It really helps as an aid and also teaches me to be better aware of not just a single string but chords up and down the neck. I love this pedal!

[Gas-man]

I bought a Pitchblack and it was DOA.

No sound would go through it.

[JPF]

I have no idea which is best, but the TT blows me away in terms of accuracy, ease of use, and speed. Now that I'm used to the strobe interface, I can tune up in under 10 seconds. I may not be 100% spot-on, but it's close enough that no one can notice any variation. It really is one of the guitar-related best purchases I've made in a long time.

[pattste]

I bought a Pitchblack today. I like it. I had been considering the Turbo Tuner for a while. However, I live in Canada so getting one was going to be costly. You never see a used one for sale and they're only sold direct. I was looking at $129 for the tuner plus $18 shipping. If they ship using US Mail, Canada Customs was going to add 15.5% GST + PST and a $5 collection fee. If they ship UPS or Fedex instead, then I could end up with a $200 tuner. I didn't think it was worth it.

[gtrmaker]

pattste: I was just wondering how much the Pitchblack costs in Canada.

[peaky]

I have the old hand held turbo tuner and its great. Shipping to UK plus customs charges and a long wait mean I don't think I'd get another unless they became available in Europe. I use this tuner for setups but prefer the pitchblack for pedalboard use. I find it easier and simplier to read and less faffy - for want of a better word. Its cheap and does what it says on the tin!

Both very good tuners. Strobostomp - never tried and frankly never want to after reading some of the horror stories on here!

[Stratman76]

I have the pitchblack, and the lack of speed when it tracks notes, and the lack of accuracy drives me bonkers!

Can't make any cents out of it?

[chinstrap]

I have a pitchblack and it works great, no tuning stability issues whatsoever. I have it in a loop bypass so I don't care about bypass or buffer-

[Ben C.]

Can't make any cents out of it?
:rimshot

[pattste]

pattste: I was just wondering how much the Pitchblack costs in Canada.

I paid CDN $89 + taxes at Italmelodie in Montreal.

[jivepikinturkey]

The reason the turbo tuner absolutely kills for me is that it shows the actual vibration of the string, which is why it can be so accurate. I hear people say that it "isn't for live use" which is nonsense. Once you've used it for a week, not only will you be tuning more quickly and more accurately, but you will have a lot more time before you drift out of tune since you were more accurately tuned in the first place.

And that is what is killer, because you can finally train your ear to hear the notes as they are meant to be heard because you will be closer to being in tune.

The value for what it can do for your playing to practice with accurately tuned strings far outweighs the small investment in such a useful tool. $129 bucks isn't bad for something that can be transformational to your playing.


:FM i was perfectly happy with my pitchblack till i read this (damn)

[thesjkexperienc]

I use a pitchblack because of the price and it has a power jack out, so you dont lose a valuable power plug for another effect pedal.

I will look into that TT as I am looking for a quick blues jam board and will need a second tuner.

[Simon]

TT as long as you don't gig outside during the day. If you do It's SS.
I learned the hard way.
Also with SS jacks on top it really does'nt take much if any more room.

Both great pedals.

[mikeSF]

i am amazed at the speed and accuracy of the TT. I went with the table top version because is has a built in mic for tuning acoustically, plus i don't have a pedal board, lol.
i was able to program in my BFTS offsets in just a few minutes and i really like that when i power the unit on, it remains in the same tuning mode i used last time, so i don't have to do anything to begin tuning in BFTS mode.
i tried the peterson in the store and was not impressed. never saw a pitchblack.

[StompBoxBlues]

I've never had a Pitchblack, but I do own one Strobostomp, and two Turbo tuners. I bought the Strobostomp first, and really like it.


This is just me but...

I think the Turbo-tuner is more accurate and quicker. I like the Strobostomp for a number of reasons. The Strobostomp is not totally true bypass, and the Turbo is (the SS has resistance to ground when off...it's not a huge problem but some people have reported tone loss with it).

That said, I haven't really heard any noticeable tone loss with the SS, and I tend to usually put the tuner in its own loop anyway...so it makes no difference to me.

For some reason I am not able to articulate I like the SS better for tuning. It just feels more right, and I like the "sweetened tuning" (and I know I can adjust the Turbo to sweeten as well). I have both, and use them, but I find that after all...I tend to like using the SS best.

[Mr. E.]

Turbo Tuner.... I've had a _lot_ of different tuners over the years, but this is far and away the best. I don't have any issues with reading the display and using it during rehearsals/live. Not just the best pedal tuner I've ever bought, one of the best pedals I've ever bought.

-erik

[BobboVisMe]

TT :dude

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f240/bobbovisme/2009_10130006.jpg

[atcgtr]

well ,
actually a side by side review of these 3 would be awesome :) :) :)

My vote goes to

In the price category : Turbo Tuner

Visibility : Pitchblack Plus

Custom Tuning : Strobostomp 2

Overall : A tie between Turbo Tuner & Pitchblack Plus

[MojoFilter]

Another vote for the Turbo Tuner. Extremely easy to use, built very well, and hyper-accurate.

[cooljuk]

I'm using a pitch Black right now, but I'm hoping the wife throws a TT in my stocking this year. I didn't know about it when I made the Pitch Black purchase. Seems the TT has a tighter tolerance. I need two floor tuners anyway so I can leave one at the practice space.

[Leonardo]

I ordered the Turbo Tuner. It has a small footprint, true bypass, display seens good... but it was the video comparing the tracking between the Sonic Research and Peterson that did it for me.

[calenk]

i own the peterson and accuracy wise it's the best of the three great for intonation, easy as hell to read too. if the the turbo was out when i got it i probably would have got that just cause of the footprint and got a stroboflip for intonation and setups.

[calenk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bY9H7ec6_0

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thats cool the tracking on that turbo, not that you'd be sitting there doing that with a tuner anyway, seems harder to read too then the SS.

[musica23]

Pitchblack is my first and only stomp tuner. For the price, I find it perfect for my needs. It's probably not the fastest, but it's small, cute and very handy for band practice. Previous to buying it, I tuned by ear (too lazy to dig out and attach my non-stomp tuner). I do find that the PB is very slightly sharp/flat at times, but my ear catches it. I have a bandmate who doesn't have a great ear, so he might try a different one (TT, I'd guess, for $50 more).

[Frankee]

I've had several tuners.....the Turbo is by far the best I've ever used.

[charmboy]

I've owned all 3 and it's the Turbo Tuner, hands down.

2nd place goes to the Pitch Black

And while the SS1 may be the feature heavy one of the bunch, it's firmly in last place due to crappy and loose jacks, a display cover that peeled up and needed to be glued back down, extra noise when in "true" bypass mode, and occassional complete failure of readout (goes dark)... also, it's by far the most expensive and has a significantly larger footprint than the others. Yes, it's more accurate than the Pitchblack, but the PB's performance and readout caused me to replace it. I'd have been plenty happy sticking with the PitchBlack as my main tuner, but I had to try the Turbo just to see what the hype was all about. Turns out, the hype is more than legit. Turbo has the kind of fast tracking I never thought possible with a tuner. I still can't believe how quickly I can tune on stage now.

Just so I'm not being negative, shout outs go to StroboStomp for being the only tuner that can be read in direct sunlight (it has saved here), and the PitchBlack wins for most appealing, easy to read on a dark stage readout.

[drweller]

Strobostomp - it's big but does everything. I use either a BP or TU2 on the stage boards; but, I love the SS for doing setups, studio work, and acoustic gigs.

[PUMPHOUSE]

TT because my guitar tracks have never sounded better.

[edwardsforest]

Well. I had a TU-2 and used it once, no problem, got rid of it because it was an impulse buy and I realized I just needed to get the "best" of everything. Bought the Turbo T new. Ok, this thing fast and can track quickly. But seriously, the pedal leaves me with no confidence that I am tuned right. The cents rarely ever stop on the screen(with like 5 different guitars), we leads to believe that all my guitars must not be properly intonated, which I guess is a plus of the pedal. I then two days ago used the TU-2 because a friend had one. SO SIMPLE. 4 leds, one in the middle. Simple and effective. I'm in a bind!

[StompBoxBlues]

I already weighed in on this, but an update...

I own two turbo-tuners, and one Strobostomp. I am aware that the Strobostomp (even though they claim it is TB) is not actually TB...and the Turbo is. I use them all, but since I put the tuners in their own loop anyway, I know the turbo is more accurate, but I still tend to use the SS on my pedalboard. I just plain like how it "reads" and it feels right.

I also use a TU-2 from time to time.

They all work well enough for me. Even though the turbo are "fastest" I tend to connect best with the SS...so I use it most.

Bottom line, they all work for me. I like them all, and any one of the ones I mention I could live with. The SS can suck tone, but like I say, a looper does the trick.

[Jwoo]

I own all 3, coincidentally.

I had a SS2 first. I bought it used in early 2007, it worked great until July 2009. The LCD would begin to dim very quickly after turning it on. Other than that, it was a great tuner. Very accurate.

I bought a PitchBlack last year, I like it a lot. Very sturdy, looks cool, responds quick. It could be a little bit more accurate...but I guess I'm just used to the accuracy of a StroboStomp.

I recently replaced my crapped-out StroboStomp2 with a Turbo Tuner. BEST TUNER EVER. Small, extremely fast, extremely accurate. The only thing I would improve about it is the location of the jacks and the power supply.

[kilsoo]

I think the 'accuracy' issue about the Pitchblack is a bit misguided. I found the '1' setting is inheriently going to be inaccurate because the bar fade and movement does not give enough visual detail.

with that said, switch to mode 2 - strobe, sharp/flat indicators + timbre. More than enough accuracy and speed for any gigging musician. Peeps comparing speed is here is kinda funny, only because we're talking about tuning a note in 3 seconds versus 5... lol ya, ummm i wouldn't worry about that.

cheap, you can buy it anywhere, and easily visible on dark stages.

[jaxapi]

on stage i use my ear but now i'm going to add a tuner pedal to my pedalboard but excuse this noob question where do you put it in your chain : first, in the loop ?

[Waxhead]

on stage i use my ear but now i'm going to add a tuner pedal to my pedalboard but excuse this noob question where do you put it in your chain : first, in the loop ?

with a Turbo or a Strobostomp it doesn't matter where you place it.
Don't know about the PB though

[newswede]

Bought my Strobostomp2 from a fine member on the emporium and LOVE it! Top marks.

[StompBoxBlues]

with a Turbo or a Strobostomp it doesn't matter where you place it.
Don't know about the PB though

People have reported tone loss with the Strobostomp. It turns out, even though the manufacturer argues it is still "true bypass" there is a resistor to ground in the circuit, when the pedal is off. Personally, I haven't heard it do anything to my tone, but potentially it could, since it is not "straight through" when bypassed. I tend to put my tuners in their own loop, first in line when I enable the loop, so none of it matters to me and I am totally happy with my SS as well as my two real-true-bypass Turbo-tuners.

But some people last year here on TGP were very adamant about the SS messing with their tone when bypassed. I believe in their circumstances (signal path, guitar, amp, and other effects in line) that they did experience it, so it is good to be aware of.

The easiest test is also putting it in its own loop, turning it off, then A/B'ing it while off to see if it does anything.

[Chonny]

Strobo Stomp by 10 miles.

Petersons been at it for a long long time.

The "me too" tuners are ok but their biggest advantage is lower cost.

[Ben C.]

The "me too" tuners are ok but their biggest advantage is lower cost.
I assume you mean the Turbo Tuner, since that's the only other thing in the SS's "class".

It's advantage isn't just lower cost... it's reliability, smaller size, better display (IMO - to each their own), faster and more accurate tracking, and it doesn't mess with my sound.

I've had the Turbo Tuner (ST-200) since July 18th, 2008, and the ST-122 since March of '08. I bought the Peterson VS-II when that 1st came out, as well as the SS1 and SS2's when they first hit the market. So I've had some experience with these guys. Personally, I'd take a Korg DT-10 (which I had after my SS2 crapped out) over a Peterson product.

[Hedegaardo1]

PB cuz' for rock'n'roll it is more than accurate enough and then its look is very sexy and the small size

[Mastersonics]

Where can I get a TT?

[enocaster]

Where can I get a TT?

http://tinyurl.com/ydr2l7j

[walterw]

Bought the Turbo T new. Ok, this thing fast and can track quickly. But seriously, the pedal leaves me with no confidence that I am tuned right. The cents rarely ever stop on the screen(with like 5 different guitars), we leads to believe that all my guitars must not be properly intonated, which I guess is a plus of the pedal. I then two days ago used the TU-2 because a friend had one. SO SIMPLE. 4 leds, one in the middle. Simple and effective. I'm in a bind!
no you're not. the turbo does exactly what the string does, and since strings never totally settle down, neither does the turbo. it's got nothing to do with intonation, since we're just dealing with open strings.

don't worry about getting the display to totally freeze. just get it to stop turning and you'll be as in tune as you'd ever need to be. once you get a grip on this principle, it'll be faster than any other tuner.

the reason that light on the TU-2 "locks on" is because it's technically wrong most of the time. it just lights up and stays lit when you're in the ballpark. (a 6-cent wide ballpark, to be exact.)

[walterw]

Where can I get a TT?

http://tinyurl.com/ydr2l7j
:rotflmao
where can i get that google trick?

[localmotion411]

Turbo Tuner ftw. If I weren't using the tuner on my M13, it would be no contest for me.

[Moe45673]

Been using a Strobostomp 1 since 2005 and love it (I'm one of the lucky ones, I guess). If that thing broke, though, Turbo Tuner would be my purchase, no question

[enocaster]

:rotflmao
where can i get that google trick?

http://tinyurl.com/dgozne

[jaxapi]

i just bought a turbo tuner !

it's perfect, small, do the job very quickly and seem to be build like a tank !

and sonic research shipping is fast too !

[Gumley]

Does the Turbo Tuner run off a 9v adapter only or can it take batteries?

[spence]

I believe the Sonic Research website will give you ALL the specs. It's amazing what a 20 second search can reveal.

[NyteOwl]

I've had four Petersons, and a TurboTuner, but am now using a Pitchblack because I like the smaller footprint.

[Mike Duncan]

I love the Boss TU-2 and just got the iPhone Peterson tuner - way cool and easy to use.

[Gumley]

I believe the Sonic Research website will give you ALL the specs. It's amazing what a 20 second search can reveal.

I actually checked the website first before posting here but I only looked at the first list of stats on the homepage. :rolleyes:

[peterjh85]

I have owned a TU-2 and currently use a Pitchblack, but with both I notice that when the stage noise goes up (i.e. keyboard pad or piano starts up) and I try to tune it picks up those notes and affects my tuning. Will the Strobostomp have the same issues, or will it not pickup other instruments while tuning?

[Chito]

I have all 3 of these tuners. I got the Strobostomp Ver 1 which by now everyone knows is a piece of crappola. I paid over $200 for it and in less than a year, the switch is intermittent, the jacks are crackling, can't get the DI to work, etc... I also have the Pitchblack which is the best among the 3 for gigging outdoors where the sun is too bright. But other than that, the Turbo Tuner is the best of the lot. No issues with faulty switches, screens and it is the most accurate.

+/-1.00 cent for the PB,
+/-0.10 cent for the SS,
+/-0.02 cent for the Turbo Tuner

[jaxapi]

Does the Turbo Tuner run off a 9v adapter only or can it take batteries?

it work with adapter or batteries, as you want !

[Yossi]

I am replacing my StroboStomp with a Turbo Tuner. There must be a short somewhere in the switch on the Strobo because half the time I have to wiggle, jiggle and twist my cable just to get the thing to work. I bought it used and it did its job until breaking. About 6 months ago I bought a Turbo Tuner for my Office Rig. Rather than fixing my Strobo Stomp I decided to purchase a second Turbo tuner for the following reasons.

1. It's built like a tank,
2. it takes up much less space on my pedal board
3. It's easier to read than the turbo
4. It's faster.
5. It seems more accurate.

[Frankee]

I am replacing my StroboStomp with a Turbo Tuner. There must be a short somewhere in the switch on the Strobo because half the time I have to wiggle, jiggle and twist my cable just to get the thing to work. I bought it used and it did its job until breaking. About 6 months ago I bought a Turbo Tuner for my Office Rig. Rather than fixing my Turbo T, I decided to purchase a second Strobostomp for the following reasons.

1. It's built like a tank,
2. it takes up much less space on my pedal board
3. It's easier to read than the turbo
4. It's faster.
5. It seems more accurate.

:huh

[Yossi]

:huh


What's confusing you, Frankee? It would help if you were more specific.

[Frankee]

What's confusing you, Frankee? It would help if you were more specific.

Your Strobo is all jacked up.....but you're replacing it with another instead of a Turbo? .........after extolling all the virtues of the Turbo in the same post?

[localmotion411]

What's confusing you, Frankee? It would help if you were more specific.

Your last sentence in the paragraph I think is backwards. I think you meant that instead of fixing your Strobo, your buying a 2nd Turbo Tuner. ??

[Frankee]

Your last sentence in the paragraph I think is backwards. I think you meant that instead of fixing your Strobo, your buying a 2nd Turbo Tuner. ??

Just caught it.....I think that's what he meant. :jo

[Yossi]

Your Strobo is all jacked up.....but you're replacing it with another instead of a Turbo? .........after extolling all the virtues of the Turbo in the same post?

Thank you. I should have read my own post with my editors hat on. Correction made!

[The Kid]

Turbo Tuner

[BernieZ]

Thanks, Rock guitar dude, that was a very helpful video. The Turbo blows away the peterson for speed, but for regular tuning or at home intonnation, either one would be fine. They look almost exactly the same at slow speeds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bY9H7ec6_0

[metalman]

Turbo Tuner. I have one of each (ST-122 and ST-200). Best tuners I've ever used.

[TaylorBarefoot]

I use the Turbo personally but keep a pitch black in the studio for people who aren't used to the TT. It only took me a minute to get it but some guitarists that used my studio were switching my TT with their boss or other tuner because "they were confused"....
The pitch black is a little "simpler" but the TT is more accurate, fast and built like a tank. It makes me happy!!

[Bondzu]

Turbo Tuner is "The Best Tuner"!

[TaylorBarefoot]

If I were computer savvy I'd post a pic of Chris Farley as the news anchor Bennett Brower Always doing the "quotes" ... Maybe I'm not "The norm" ...

[BobboVisMe]

Holy old thread revival Batman ...

http://www.thebatsite.co.uk/images/robin_01.jpg

[Humancapo]

I've owned all three and used them on different boards and the TT is by far my favorite
tuner. The other two were sold after my first gig with the TT. Excellent product. A+

[BeauZooka]

The new TC Electronics Polytune should be thrown in the mix for consideration:
http://www.tcelectronic.com/polytune.asp

[metalman]

The new TC Electronics Polytune should be thrown in the mix for consideration:


Maybe we should wait until they start shipping and give people a chance to try them out first.

I think it's ludicrous to vote on a tuner that is not available yet and nobody has tried.

[JackButler]

Just ordered up a Turbo Tuner, hopefully it gets here quick as their site says in stock!

[Ben C.]

Just ordered up a Turbo Tuner, hopefully it gets here quick as their site says in stock!
Nice choice! I know you were up in the air between that and the Poly. I know you'll like the Turbo Tuner!

-Ben

[Mac-P]

Well, I am aware that I am in the minority here, but for the sake of historical record I can't resist posting in this thread. Not trying to change anyone's mind who already has a preference. Mostly want to put these ideas out there for players who haven't yet decided. This is regarding the Peterson Strobostomp & Turbo Tuner. I am not going to talk about the Pitchblack because it is in a different category than the other two much more accurate strobes.

I am one of those players who have never had a problem with my Strobostomp 1 (the blue one) purchased in '03. It has been played from NY to Philly to Chicago to Montreal, inside, outside. Stomped on, beat on, spilled on, rained on, kicked, stared at.... Freezing van overnight to a hot trunk in the middle of the day. Still works fine. I notice no tonal coloration with it in my signal path - and I am PICKY. I did have an issue with crackly jacks for about a day and sprayed some tuner cleaner & it has been fine. The newer SS uses metal Neutrik jacks.

The Turbo Tuner looks good. It really does. I like that YouTube video comparing the SS to the TT. But to just say either is "better" is what I disagree with. It depends what you need. The ability to track notes as fast as the Turbo does in the video (the really fast major scales at the end) is not something I need. I'm going one string at a time. The Peterson's tuning abilities are stellar. Certain the industry standard at recording studios the world over for the last 40 years.


So 16th notes @ 100 BPM tuning speed abilities aside, here are a few significant features that make the Strobostomp the only tuner in it's category that does what it does. These may not be important to everyone, but they are indispensable to some (and no, I don't work for Peterson haha):

1) The Strobostomp has a backlit LCD screen which is perfectly visible indoors in the dark, or outdoors in the bright blinding sun. If you've ever played an important gig on a sunny outdoor stage, you know how important that is. The LED's on Tuners like the Turbo, Pitchblack, TU-2, PolyTune (or any other LED) get washed out and impossible to read in bright direct sunlight (this is not myth or fun when it happens). I did a gig once where my bassist had so much trouble seeing his Pitchblack that he actually had me unplug my guitar so he could tune off my board ... more than once in our set.... :puh Casting a shadow or some of the other remedies people suggest are annoying at best, and many times impossible. Certainly an unneeded obstacle when you have about 15 seconds to tune in between songs.

2) The Peterson has several "sweetened" compensated guitar modes (& Buzz Feiten mode) that take into consideration the imperfections with guitar fretting & intonation (like the sharp G# note on the G string in an open E chord or the fact that even a properly intonated guitar will be perfectly in tune at the 12th fret - and veer off from there). Guitar is an imperfect instrument and will always play a little out of tune. The strategy is to keep it relatively in tune all over the fingerboard and in relation to a keyboard. To my ears the Peterson's "guitar sweetened" tuning mode does just that. If you are not playing with keyboards maybe it isn't as big a deal. But my guitar had never sounded as in tune as it does when I finally started using that sweetened mode. Your milage may vary. The Turbo Tuner offers the user to "program it themselves" - which I would have no idea how to even start doing.

3) The Strobostomp can power other pedals via a daisy chain, while not using one of the plugs for itself (the tuner is powered by the adapter). This "frees up" a plug that can be used for another effect. Again, if you are using batteries or powering your pedals individually, this doesn't apply to you. But for those of us using a One-Spot, or Godlyke Power-All, it is a very clear advantage. I have no extra room on my board, and being able to power my entire board from my one Power-All is sweet indeed. One-Spot/Power-All vs: isolated power = different thread, I know. But again: never a problem for years & a million gigs - with all types of questionable power sources, plugs & neon lights.

4) The Strobostomp takes up less horizontal space than the Turbo Tuner. People are constantly posting about how much smaller the Turbo Tuner is. But the jacks are on the sides. Even with George L's that adds 5/8" per side (1.25" total). The Turbo Tuner is 2.7" wide with no plugs. Plug it in and that's 3.95" wide (or more with bigger plugs). The Strobostomp has top mounted jacks & is 3.875" wide. People often forget about the real life application when looking at things like dimensions.

5) Strobostomp has an XLR out (Neutrik) and can be used as a direct box. If you do acoustic gigs this rules. One less thing to carry and a great life saver should you ever need it.

6) Regarding the visual form of the Strobostomp (some hate it - I think they look cool, like a Corvette - or at least like the industry standard stompbox guitar tuner): it is designed to protect the LCD screen & stomp switch by steering your feet, bottles, whatever to the proper places. I've had lots of stuff fall on my board over the years (sucks but that is life) and so far (knock on wood) no problems.



Yes, the Strobostomp is $199 & the Turbo is $130. Not saying that isn't significant. But it is comparing two excellent tuners with entirely different feature sets. If you don't need what the Strobostomp has to offer, then save yourself the $70. But those added features have become indispensable for some. Something is only better if it does what you need. :D

Peace!