SuperSwitch SSS Series Diagram Needed

[guitarmv]

I have been searching for days now, and have not found a straight-ahead diagram of the wiring I want to throw onto my SSS Strat.

It is a 50th Anniv with Texas Specials, I do not want to add a Push/Pull because I do not have a 250 (I have a 500), and what I want to do is have 2 series options, one that emulates a bridge humbucker, one that emulates a neck humbucker, and then the neck single coil; the neck/middle sc combo; and bridge/mid sc combo.

[9fingers]

Google Deaf Eddie switches- they do that & more & are easy to wire. I like 'em. (no affiliation except as a user).

[SLBlues]

+1 on the D-E switch........good stuff

[guitarmv]

I already have an Oats s-switch, but thanks for the tip!

[Bill Brasky]

Try Seymour Duncan's site. They have some Superswitch diagrams for different pickup configs. If there was a Fender model that used SSS and a Superswitch you can probably find it on the Fender site. If not, you can find another Fender Strat model that used a Superswitch in a similar way (ex. HSS) and just modify it to your needs.

[guitarmv]

Thanks, I have tried both those sites and neither have the diagrams I am looking for. Believe me, my post here is a last resort, not wanting to waste gearpagers time if I can help it. I have been to every site I can find, and have searched this site, the Tele site, the UG, MLP, and the LMNOP. I have even been on Limewire.

There is enough info out there to design my own, but so far my attempts have all been duds, including burning out a 3-way switch.

Can somebody do me two specific diagrams?

[Bill Brasky]

Here's one other site:
http://www.guitarelectronics.com/category/wiringresources.3_pickup_diagrams/


Deaf Eddie can help you out if you email him and ask politely. Explain clearly exactly what you want so he gets it right the first time. I know what you're going through. It sucks that there are no good, clear instructions for the Superswitch online. (No. The Stew Mac instructions are lousy)

[guitarmv]

Thanks Bill! Now I am another friend!

[edit] "Another friend of Bill's", in case the joke was missed

[cc9cii]

Appears to be reasonably straight-forward, you'll need a single-wafer 5 way switch (the one with 12 lugs).

You want:

neck only
neck+middle in series
neck+middle in parallel
bridge+middle in parallel
bridge+middle in series

This assumes your middle pickup is already RWRP.

I can post a diagram of above if you'd like.

EDIT: here is a diagram, I'm sure this can be improved, especially with the unused middle pot

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab289/cc9cii/5way-strat-sss-v1.jpg

[guitarmv]

Awesome! This looks like I can move the volume down to the middle pot position and leave the typical volume spot dumb, which I've been thinking about doing for a while.

This is great, thanks a lot!

[edit] no super switch needed?! Well, now I can get that S-1 switch and try a Deluxe wiring.

[cc9cii]

I have been to every site I can find, and have searched this site, the Tele site, the UG, MLP, and the LMNOP. I have even been on Limewire.

BTW, I usually hang around on that 'tele site'. Strats are not my interests :eek:

[guitarmv]

Gasp!!!!!!!!!

[Stadler Guitars]

Does the order of selections matter? And, one drawback to the posted drawing is that the two series humbucking positions both take the hot from the middle pickup. I think.

[cc9cii]

I don't think those electrons know which pickup is where :-) If you're concerned it is easy enough to try it, you can do A/B test and hear it for yourself :aok

[Stadler Guitars]

I don't think those electrons know which pickup is where :-)

They do.

[cc9cii]

Awesome! This looks like I can move the volume down to the middle pot position and leave the typical volume spot dumb, which I've been thinking about doing for a while.

This is great, thanks a lot!

[edit] no super switch needed?! Well, now I can get that S-1 switch and try a Deluxe wiring.

If you use a 2 wafer super switch, and a couple of S-1 switches, you can have:

1st S-1 normal position
- neck
- neck + middle (parallel)
- middle
- bridge + middle (parallel)
- bridge
- neck + bridge (parallel) <--- when 2nd S-1 engaged

1st S-1 engaged
- neck
- neck + middle (series)
- middle
- bridge + middle (series)
- bridge
- neck + bridge (series) <--- when 2nd S-1 engaged

[Stadler Guitars]

If pups were strictly resistive, then it would matter less in which order they were wired. But they are not. The coil is an inductor and a capacitor. If a pickup is a capacitor, then wiring one to hot through another pickup is like sending it through a cap, right? That pickup on the hot side will be coupling highs and restricting lows with its capacitance. Its capacitance will also be acting as a storage for lows and bleeding highs to ground through the resistance and capacitance of the pickup wired to ground underneath it. The reactance of the coils will have an effect, too.

These pickups are hearing different sections of string and are not all the same. The order they are wired in does make a difference. Wiring both humbucking positions with the mid pup as hot will not exhibit as much variation as wiring the bridge and neck as the hots. Less variation would be good for a player who felt that the bridge was too bright and the neck too deep. Both ways will have individual effects on the phase cancellations/additions of upper harmonics realized at the jack.

Here's a schematic for a superswitch with the humbucking hots coming from the bridge and rhythm pickups. It goes: bridge/mid series, bridge/mid parallel, neck/mid parallel, neck/mid series, neck. The neck position could be moved to the 3 position, if desired.

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab330/stadlerguitars/SuperswitchforSSS.jpg

[Stadler Guitars]

If pups were strictly resistive, then it would matter less in which order they were wired. But they are not. The coil is an inductor and a capacitor. If a pickup is a capacitor, then wiring one to hot through another pickup is like sending it through a cap, right? That pickup on the hot side will be coupling highs and restricting lows with its capacitance. Its capacitance will also be acting as a storage for lows and bleeding highs to ground through the resistance and capacitance of the pickup wired to ground underneath it. The reactance of the coils will have an effect, too.

These pickups are hearing different sections of string and are not all the same. The order they are wired in does make a difference. Wiring both humbucking positions with the mid pup as hot will not exhibit as much variation as wiring the bridge and neck as the hots. Less variation would be good for a player who felt that the bridge was too bright and the neck too deep. Both ways will have individual effects on the phase cancellations/additions of upper harmonics realized at the jack.

Here's a schematic for a superswitch with the humbucking hots coming from the bridge and rhythm pickups. It goes: bridge/mid series, bridge/mid parallel, neck/mid parallel, neck/mid series, neck. The neck position could be moved to the 3 position, if desired.

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab330/stadlerguitars/SuperswitchforSSS.jpg

[cc9cii]

I have no desire to argue with you about electronics, nor do I wish to get into my-circuit-is-better-than-yours thing. Let's just say I don't agree with some of your points. Peace, and over and out from me.

EDIT: just to clarify to others who may be reading this - I've not tried any of the circuits here, so indeed there may be tonal differences in the way the pickups are wired. I wish to also make it clear that Tom above never claimed that one circuit is better than another, so apologies from me if I conveyed a false impression on anyone.

[RvChevron]

If pups were strictly resistive, then it would matter less in which order they were wired. But they are not. The coil is an inductor and a capacitor. If a pickup is a capacitor, then wiring one to hot through another pickup is like sending it through a cap, right? That pickup on the hot side will be coupling highs and restricting lows with its capacitance. Its capacitance will also be acting as a storage for lows and bleeding highs to ground through the resistance and capacitance of the pickup wired to ground underneath it. The reactance of the coils will have an effect, too.

These pickups are hearing different sections of string and are not all the same. The order they are wired in does make a difference. Wiring both humbucking positions with the mid pup as hot will not exhibit as much variation as wiring the bridge and neck as the hots. Less variation would be good for a player who felt that the bridge was too bright and the neck too deep. Both ways will have individual effects on the phase cancellations/additions of upper harmonics realized at the jack.

Here's a schematic for a superswitch with the humbucking hots coming from the bridge and rhythm pickups. It goes: bridge/mid series, bridge/mid parallel, neck/mid parallel, neck/mid series, neck. The neck position could be moved to the 3 position, if desired.



So, if I'm wiring only 2 single coils in series and in phase, coil A and coil B.

If I feel coil A by itself is too dark and coil B by itself too bright, which coil should be wired to the hot side?

That is if I want a more balance tone when both coils are in series. Also, if both coils are wired out of phase but still in series?

Thanks!

[Stadler Guitars]

Coil B or coil A? It would depend on how you wanted the pickup to sound, on which string section and pickup coil you wanted to predominate.

I have never wired two pickups simply out of phase.

[Chikn]

Visit www.guitarnuts.com (http://www.guitarnuts.com) and look for Mike Richardson's (that's me) Strat wiring. It uses a 4P5T Super switch and one push-push or push-pull pot. It gives ten sounds, and looks stock.

[guitarmv]

Hey THANKS, folks!!!! Great information! Keep it coming if you want

[walterw]

If pups were strictly resistive, then it would matter less in which order they were wired. But they are not...

...The order they are wired in does make a difference. Wiring both humbucking positions with the mid pup as hot will not exhibit as much variation as wiring the bridge and neck as the hots...
really? are you sure this isn't just the difference in absolute output polarity ("phase" as it always gets called) you get with one coil to ground vs. the other coil, which can make the guitar interact differently with the amp (depending on its polarity?)

long, juicy high-level argument about this very thing here (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=523098&highlight=speaker+polarity&page=6).