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R0cl9nk
10-07-2009, 02:49 PM
So I've been doing some research on capacitors I know I want to use Orangedrop however I don't know if I should be using .47 or .22. I'm new to this page and thought I would ask the community for their opinion. I'm trying to get a cleaner brighter tone, and also be able to run it into a distortion to get a chruch rock & roll tone. I'm not sure if it would effect how the sustain and harmonics sound but I guess I would want better sounding and sustaining harmonics. Thanks everyone.
Neck: Maple
Fingerboard: Rosewood
Body: Basswood
Nut: Bone
Pickup (N): Dimarzio Cruiser Neck
Pickup (M): Dimarzio Fast Track One
Pickup (B): Dimarzio Pro Track
Control: 1 Volume, 2 Tone, 5 way Lever
Bridge: Vintage Tremolo with Steel-Block
Features: CTS 250k Pots, CRL 5 way Lever Switch, Switchcraft Jack, Orangedrop Cap, Clear Acrylic Pickguard, Sperzel Locking Keys 6L Satin Chrome, chrome strat knobs
Finish: Olympic White
levelfrets
10-07-2009, 03:11 PM
Welcome,
If you are like me and you don't ever really use the tone control, go with a .022uf cap. I like foil film caps myself. I don't know anyone that can play a .047uf rolled all the way back and sound good. At least .022uf gives you a useful tone setting.
jcoloccia
10-07-2009, 03:31 PM
They're $1.50 each. Buy both. Try the 47 first since I suspect you'll settle on the 22.
hammersig
10-07-2009, 03:51 PM
I agree with jcoloccia, I think a 22 will get you where you described.
Bob V
10-07-2009, 05:00 PM
The general rule of thumb, which you're free to disregard, is .047 for single coil pickups and .022 for humbuckers. The idea is that the 'buckers usually don't have as much treble to spare, so you only take off a little slice of the highest trebles with a small capacitor. The single coil pickups, being brighter to begin with, can afford to have some more of the treble dumped off through the passive tone control, so you use a larger value capacitor. But hey, like Emeril says, "Who makes up these rules?" So the best advice so far is to try them both.
Bill M
10-07-2009, 08:17 PM
Vintage strats from 1954 until 1969 used .1 caps. If you are going for a vintage type tone go with a .1
the prof
10-07-2009, 09:05 PM
In the same boat myself. I just got my first Les Paul (2000 model 1960 Classic Honeyburst, I LOVE it!) But I know enough to realize the stock components are probably crap, just guessing from the looks of the original green ceramic type cap. Not sure of its value (farads) either. But I went ahead with a cap change to start out. I've got an old Sears ""Silvertone" Solidstate amplifier that has a bunch of orange drop caps, "tropical fish" caps, and several elecrtolitic types, (not sure about that, but they look like polarized caps), these have "Holand" on the casing. Anyhow, I found a few orange drops that have "225PW" on the case, not sure of the capacitance value by that label, but would it happen to be the .022 uF I'm looking for? I'm not so sure as to the overall benefit of these caps, but I can tell that it somewhat takes out some of the "harsh/bite" of the original setup, which I like. I'd like the overdriven tone to be a bit smoother.
EADGBE
10-07-2009, 10:26 PM
So I've been doing some research on capacitors I know I want to use Orangedrop however I don't know if I should be using .47 or .22.
Be sure to get .022 or .047. Not what you wrote above.
You could also try .033 too while you're at it. Experimenting with capacitors won't harm you guitar.
JFD58
10-08-2009, 12:45 PM
In the same boat myself. I just got my first Les Paul (2000 model 1960 Classic Honeyburst, I LOVE it!) But I know enough to realize the stock components are probably crap, just guessing from the looks of the original green ceramic type cap. Not sure of its value (farads) either. But I went ahead with a cap change to start out. I've got an old Sears ""Silvertone" Solidstate amplifier that has a bunch of orange drop caps, "tropical fish" caps, and several elecrtolitic types, (not sure about that, but they look like polarized caps), these have "Holand" on the casing. Anyhow, I found a few orange drops that have "225PW" on the case, not sure of the capacitance value by that label, but would it happen to be the .022 uF I'm looking for? I'm not so sure as to the overall benefit of these caps, but I can tell that it somewhat takes out some of the "harsh/bite" of the original setup, which I like. I'd like the overdriven tone to be a bit smoother.
Your OD 225pw are a particular series of OD and are different than 715/716's in that they are polyester/film and not polypropylene-AFAIK anyway. There is/should be another line of code sequencing bellow the SBE 225pw such as - 223k o722. 223k=.022value, the 0722 is the date code. You can find good explainations of the coding system @ Hoffman and AES for deciphering SBE OD.
I have some of these polyesters but have not used them yet and I am not an expert by any means in all the nuasences and voodoo arcania of caps. But I DO believe in PIO in the guitars little cave of electro bits-esp if your after narled and knurled grungy growl at the 0-1 end of the dial. YMMV, but I seem to get good results...:dunno:love:
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