Talk me out of Peluso 2247 SE + Vintech X73i

[Griz]

Yes, there's certainly no perfect combination.

But I might be able to swing this, budget-wise. I've already got decent converters, so I'm looking in the direction of a nice all-round LDC and a simple but great pre.

So tell me what sucks about my (for now) dream combination.

TIA for golden-eared sage advice.

:bow

[loudboy]

Bock 195 and a GR MP1-NV. <g>

[elambo]

Do NOT buy a Peluso 2247 SE + Vintech X73i!

[DANOCASTER]

Actually , that's a lot of quality for the money..

I was at a shootout at a major Nashville studio involving that mic. There was a Peluso 2247 LE up - as well as 5 of the studio's best U47s and two favorite U87s. The Peluso was chosen as favorite over all but ONE of the original 47s. I bought a Peluso the next day ( as did several others who were there )

I don't know how consistent they are ( hopefully pretty much so ) but mine is fantastic and is my "go to" for most vocalists. I also have a CAD VX2 valve mic . That was their top of the line ( not even made by CAD actually ) and , if you can find a used one, is SHOCKINGLY good for the money. They retailed at $3800 (or something when they first came out ) but I got mine for $700 and I have several guys who borrow it pretty regularly.. Anyway - another one to look for

But , the Peluso is stellar for the money and the Vintech is nice and clear w/ a little character ( not as much as an older Never though ) and you get a very useful EQ as well

I would say , that'd be a great combo and would be pretty hard to beat for the money !! PLUS - both pieces can cover a LOT of musical ground

[MichaelK]

I also have a CAD VX2 valve mic . That was their top of the line ( not even made by CAD actually ) and , if you can find a used one, is SHOCKINGLY good for the money.

That's a fantastic mic, I agree. A friend of mine has one.

Anyhoo... for the small difference in price, why not the LE instead of the SE? Those NOS steel tubes won't be around forever.

[DANOCASTER]

didn't catch that... spring for the LE if you get the Peluso

[jkr]

the Vintech x73i is a fantastic mic preamp for vocals and guitars. I've owned two in the past (was stupid and sold a bunch of studio gear) and mis them greatly. Big-fat-punchy. Great eq. Made everything sound better.

[Griz]

Do NOT buy a Peluso 2247 SE + Vintech X73i!

You have to say why, esteemed TGP'er elambo.

:D

[Griz]

Actually , that's a lot of quality for the money..

I was at a shootout at a major Nashville studio involving that mic. There was a Peluso 2247 LE up - as well as 5 of the studio's best U47s and two favorite U87s. The Peluso was chosen as favorite over all but ONE of the original 47s. I bought a Peluso the next day ( as did several others who were there )

I don't know how consistent they are ( hopefully pretty much so ) but mine is fantastic and is my "go to" for most vocalists. I also have a CAD VX2 valve mic . That was their top of the line ( not even made by CAD actually ) and , if you can find a used one, is SHOCKINGLY good for the money. They retailed at $3800 (or something when they first came out ) but I got mine for $700 and I have several guys who borrow it pretty regularly.. Anyway - another one to look for

But , the Peluso is stellar for the money and the Vintech is nice and clear w/ a little character ( not as much as an older Never though ) and you get a very useful EQ as well

I would say , that'd be a great combo and would be pretty hard to beat for the money !! PLUS - both pieces can cover a LOT of musical ground

Thanks for the feedback, DANOCASTER. I know you've got the ears. I'll definitely try to sniff out one of those CAD mic's too.

[Griz]

Anyhoo... for the small difference in price, why not the LE instead of the SE? Those NOS steel tubes won't be around forever.

Good point, MichaelK. The price difference isn't that much, as you say. I had just heard that the LE was a bit noisy. But if in actual use that difference doesn't find its way into a mix... might be the way to go.

[elambo]

You have to say why, esteemed TGP'er elambo.

:D

Do not buy the Peluso 2247 SE... when you can buy the LE. :wave

My first Peluso was the SE, then I decided I wasn't crazy about it and John let me trade it for the LE (plus additional cash, of course). I spent good time with both versions but I was much happier with the LE. There's a quality to the sound of the high end with less expensive mics - it's not entirely pleasant, metallic is the best word I have for it - and the SE had a bit of it. It's almost completely gone from the LE. There's just a touch. The least expensive mic I know of which has none is the Wunder CM7-GT, but it's over $3k. The 2247 LE is pretty close to the Wunder for much less. The SE is a great mic, but not like the LE.

[2leod]

Can't do it - nothing wrong there.


I don't have a Vintech but I love the LE.

[sears]

That combo will sound great in your treated room. It will expose a poor-sounding room.

[MichaelK]

The 22-47 LE is pretty low output compared to other tube mics I have owned/used. It's lower in output than his 22-251, for example, but I don't find it to be more noisy. It's more noisy than a transformerless tube mic, but that's normal.

Because of its low output, noise elsewhere in the chain could become more pronounced as the level is raised, so a good preamp is pretty important if you want to reap the full benefit. I don't know the Vintech per se.

Honestly, a little noise is no big deal anyway.

[Griz]

Thanks, everyone, for the helpful input.

:aok

[elambo]

The 22-47 LE is pretty low output compared to other tube mics I have owned/used. It's lower in output than his 22-251, for example, but I don't find it to be more noisy. It's more noisy than a transformerless tube mic, but that's normal.

Because of its low output, noise elsewhere in the chain could become more pronounced as the level is raised, so a good preamp is pretty important if you want to reap the full benefit. I don't know the Vintech per se.

Honestly, a little noise is no big deal anyway.

This has been my experience, too. Its noise won't typically be an issue, unless recording an instrument that's very quiet into a track that's very minimal with a preamp and other gear that's also adding noise. Maybe I'm old-skool, but I don't mind a little purrrr underneath the track. Just a touch.