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55hz
10-24-2009, 10:42 AM
Huh?! Mind boggling...executive order and all....

mprvise
10-24-2009, 10:44 AM
http://tulsasportbikeriders.com/forum/images/smilies/locked.gif

mdog114
10-24-2009, 10:47 AM
***NEWSFLASH***

Paulie Shore wins Oscar!

jaydub69
10-24-2009, 10:48 AM
Political topics are not recommended by the administrators.

Besides, just griping about something is counter productive. If you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. We can all point our fingers at things we see as short of perfect. It takes a special person to offer solutions. And what is your solution? What are your qualifications?

I certainly don't know the answer, but I know enough to keep my mouth shut until I do.

-John

Jon Silberman
10-24-2009, 10:48 AM
Swine flu is more widespread now than it's ever been. Health authorities say almost 100 children have died from the flu, known as H1N1, and 46 states now have widespread flu activity.
When a killer of children is known, predictable, and readily preventable yet a year later there is still far less vaccine available as everyone knew at the outset we needed, as a father, I do deem that worthy of emergency action.

DaveF
10-24-2009, 10:48 AM
panic!
crisis!
doomsday is here!

mdog114
10-24-2009, 10:52 AM
What are your qualifications?

Qualifications are key, we should have thought about that earlier.

Zelmo
10-24-2009, 10:53 AM
They closed down the high school ~5 miles down the road from me just yesterday. Half the students (hundreds) and half the teachers are out.

Nobody around here has ever seen anything like it. Doesn't seem too trivial to me....

mdog114
10-24-2009, 10:54 AM
panic!
crisis!
doomsday is here!

There has to be a boggy man.

Flying Panda
10-24-2009, 10:55 AM
My three kids had it last week. My wife and I are just getting over it. Pretty much every common cold I've ever had has been worse than this.

55hz
10-24-2009, 10:56 AM
Ugh.

Sorry. It shocked me so (the executive order, really? We can't get off our asses and make it work some other way?) that I done done posted a political style thread. Well, I apologize although Im still befuzzled.

yellowecho
10-24-2009, 10:57 AM
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r136/Romulus32/ibtl.gif

WesKuhnley
10-24-2009, 10:57 AM
In before the lock.

mdog114
10-24-2009, 11:03 AM
My three kids had it last week. My wife and I are just getting over it. Pretty much every common cold I've ever had has been worse than this.

:).

mude
10-24-2009, 11:03 AM
What are the implications of declaring this an emergency? What happens?

So far, H1N1 seems to be getting much more widespread than the people who thought it was nothing thought it was going to be. And, so far, it has not been as deadly as those that were worried about it thought it would be.

The widespread nature of it is a good reminder that we are not actually very well protected should something like this happen with a more deadly virus.

Evan.

Sunbreak Music
10-24-2009, 11:06 AM
We all had it last week. Not much fun, but the lack of "stomach" symptoms put it pretty far down on the list as far as discomfort. I've certainly felt worse.

Frankee
10-24-2009, 11:06 AM
It's like the Cabbage patch kids, or Black Friday..........suckers.

Greggy
10-24-2009, 11:11 AM
I've been told that there are only 2 vaccine manufacturing facilities worldwide. Is this true? Could help explain the apparent shortages.

Hamertoe
10-24-2009, 11:11 AM
http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/swineflu.asp
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/qa.htm



http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/MrSticky/vat2_dees.jpg

It's Time!
10-24-2009, 11:12 AM
http://bobgreiner.tripod.com/1cc2ce10.jpg

55hz
10-24-2009, 11:13 AM
Wow! A thread that merits not one, but several larger than usual "in before the lock"'s.

I'm very proud, and blushing actually for those gif's!

I was expecting just the usual: "IBTL". MAYBE with a dancing banana...

Thank you, thank you very much!

BTW, The post is not so much about the Obama-democrat-leftwing type of stuff, but more towards what Jon S. said and my general anger over the fact that ANY party cant seem to get ANYTHING done without doomsday drama.

Oops, that's probably political too.

I wouldn't mind, however, folks discussing their take on sine flu (h1n1)....

Jon Silberman
10-24-2009, 11:17 AM
A general thought directed at the nation as a whole, not any individual here.

I know it feels clever to report how you or people you live with or know had the H1N1 flu and it was no big deal but to do so is to miss - or misunderstand - why it's threatening.

From what I can tell, most people don't react horribly to it. A small percentage do. Of these, more than is typical for flu-like illnesses can die. So if you had it and your own immune system kicked its viral ass, by all means, give thanks for your strong body and good fortune. But don't construe from it that the virus is therefore harmless. It's not.

An analogy. I lived in college with several groups of men and women who came down with mono. Some got quite ill. Two, I can recall, had to leave school for the semester and recuperate at home. I never got sick at all and I swapped spit with one of them for months (one of the women so shut up! :) ). I'm thankful my immune system is strong but I would not construe from it that mono is nothing.

Reeltarded
10-24-2009, 11:19 AM
I have it right now, this day, this minute. It's no worse for me than most others I have contracted.

Shallow breathing is the worst part. I have had high fevers for the last 48 hours on and off. It was preceded by an overall malaise for 10 days, then 2 recovered days and BAMMO! Fever struck.

People die from illness because of other complications many times. I have no special preexisting conditions that worry me.

The press never reported the giant wasps, or the candycanes that talk. I will be fine.

guittguy1
10-24-2009, 11:20 AM
I work in maintenance in a food manufacturing plant. Last week they had me and the other maintainer on the production line because of absences. Something like 12,000 kids stayed home from school in the Treasure Valley (Boise area) last week because of swine flu. They are starting to close down school for days on end to slow the spread.

telecopter
10-24-2009, 11:20 AM
How about those Bears!

55hz
10-24-2009, 11:20 AM
I meant Jon s. First quote.

ow my eyes
10-24-2009, 11:22 AM
I wouldn't mind, however, folks discussing their take on sine flu (h1n1)....

Its a little smoother than saw tooth or square flu. less polarity than the triangle flu.

Jon Silberman
10-24-2009, 11:22 AM
I meant Jon s. First quote.

About every 100 posts or so, Jon S. says something noteworthy!

:o

DGDGBD
10-24-2009, 11:23 AM
IBTY
(in before the yammering)

Reeltarded
10-24-2009, 11:23 AM
haha my eyes

I forgot to report my craving for mud covered trash, and corn.

Seakayak
10-24-2009, 11:23 AM
OK, I thought you Americans were being invaded by jellyfish. Heres the top story on Time.com
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1931659,00.html

sanhozay
10-24-2009, 11:27 AM
When a killer of children is known, predictable, and readily preventable yet a year later there is still far less vaccine available as everyone knew at the outset we needed, as a father, I do deem that worthy of emergency action.

I stand with Jon on this. Hindsight on gear purchases is far more negotiable & less forgiving when it comes to human health concerns.

plexistack
10-24-2009, 11:28 AM
The decision to declare a state of emergency was probably more prudent and better thought out than the decision the OP made when he started this thread. ;)

ROKY
10-24-2009, 11:30 AM
It's a money game .

GuitarsFromMars
10-24-2009, 11:33 AM
In before the lock...twice in 2 days...

DaveF
10-24-2009, 11:34 AM
A general thought directed at the nation as a whole, not any individual here.

I know it feels clever to report how you or people you live with or know had the H1N1 flu and it was no big deal but to do so is to miss - or misunderstand - why it's threatening.

From what I can tell, most people don't react horribly to it. A small percentage do. Of these, more than is typical for flu-like illnesses can die. So if you had it and your own immune system kicked its viral ass, by all means, give thanks for your strong body and good fortune. But don't construe from it that the virus is therefore harmless. It's not.

An analogy. I lived in college with several groups of men and women who came down with mono. Some got quite ill. Two, I can recall, had to leave school for the semester and recuperate at home. I never got sick at all and I swapped spit with one of them for months (one of the women so shut up! :) ). I'm thankful my immune system is strong but I would not construe from it that mono is nothing.

Why don't we get the same panic at the regular seasonal flu, which is more deadly than this?

Darkburst
10-24-2009, 11:36 AM
Why don't we get the same panic at the regular seasonal flu, which is less deadly than this?

That's what I'm wondering.

Frater B
10-24-2009, 11:36 AM
you mean more?

DaveF
10-24-2009, 11:37 AM
That's what I'm wondering.

I meant to say "more deadly".

Zelmo
10-24-2009, 11:37 AM
Why don't we get the same panic at the regular seasonal flu, which is less [more] deadly than this?
Perhaps because much of the general population has some acquired resistance to the regular, seasonal flu whereas that does not seem to be the case with H1N1. Like I said, there are massive preventative closings going on all over the place due to - in one case here locally - hundreds of people being affected in one school. Who knows?

Platypus
10-24-2009, 11:39 AM
The 'IBTL' posts are growing QUITE long in the tooth.