Soldano SLO master volume

[peanutavalon]

Hi. I saw a few clips on youtube of a guy using a SLO at lower volumes. Does this amp do well at lower volumes or does it have to be cranked to get the goods? thanks

[bilbal]

I have found the master volume of an SLO to be very effective. Of course the amp sounds amazing when cranked but it is definitely possible to get the goods at less than blistering volume.

YMMV,
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[onadlos]

The SLO at minimum volumes is still loud. While not the sweet outcome as at 80+ db, still has the goods.

[LPMojoGL]

It rocks at all volumes. Amazing amp.

[Wizard of Ozz]

The SLO is by no means a "great low volume amp." It sounds best with the MV at 10-11:00 (or higher) and that's very loud. The tone definitely suffers at lower settings on the MV... and there are many, many other better choices for similar tones at lower volumes than a SLO.

[Braciola]

I have no problem getting great tones from my SLO at lower volumes.

[Jim S]

It rocks at all volumes. Amazing amp.
+1

It sounds fantastic at all volumes: from bedroom to stage.

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[Jim S]

The SLO is by no means a "great low volume amp." It sounds best with the MV at 10-11:00 (or higher) and that's very loud. The tone definitely suffers at lower settings on the MV... and there are many, many other better choices for similar tones at lower volumes than a SLO.
I whole-heartedly disagree.

[Mr_You]

IMO, amps "sound bad" at low volume because the (12") speaker isn't moving much air.

The SLO-100 has LOTS of presence and touch sensitivity which still comes across at low volumes. A truly magical amp. I own one.

[SgtThump]

I whole-heartedly disagree.

Me too. I didn't experience that at all. I was able to get killer tones at low volumes with my SLO. At REAL low volumes, the amp is kinda muffled. But come up just a tiny wee bit (still low volumes), it opened up and the highs came back.

I thought it was great for bedroom playing.

[se7en]

The SLO is by no means a "great low volume amp." It sounds best with the MV at 10-11:00 (or higher) and that's very loud. The tone definitely suffers at lower settings on the MV... and there are many, many other better choices for similar tones at lower volumes than a SLO.

I agree. Highs balance out past 4 or so, which is damn loud. This is where I liked the sound and feel more, too and not that it wasn't good at lower volumes either. I wouldn't buy one unless you can crank it...just my opinion. There are a number of similar voiced amps with a better master for below stage volumes.

[guitarvc]

The SLO is by no means a "great low volume amp." It sounds best with the MV at 10-11:00 (or higher) and that's very loud. The tone definitely suffers at lower settings on the MV... and there are many, many other better choices for similar tones at lower volumes than a SLO.

+1 I have found that great tone for live band applications and bedroom tone are totally different. Having used the SLO for both applications, I have found the SLO to sound great at low volumes when playing alone, but not so great in a band setting. In that setting, I found I needed to crank it to get that SLO sweetness. I have since decided that 50 watt amps serve my gigging purposes better, thus the change to the Egnater Mod 50

[peanutavalon]

The SLO is by no means a "great low volume amp." It sounds best with the MV at 10-11:00 (or higher) and that's very loud. The tone definitely suffers at lower settings on the MV... and there are many, many other better choices for similar tones at lower volumes than a SLO.


what else gets soldano sustain? what amps do you recommend?

[peanutavalon]

um...what's the question exactly? It has a master volume, and while mine had about 2 millimeters of travel in this range, I could play it at home. Is it worth buying so that you can sit at home and run it at voice volume? not really.

So what are you looking for? If you want a really good amp that you can use at home but that shines with the band or when mic'd up (and will out-live you) then great. It's not just the SLO, apply this to pretty much any 100 watt head (power scaling not withstanding).


looking for a good amp that I can gig with and enjoy at home. I hear the emplexador master volume is awesome.

[TTripp]

The Emplexador still needs to be up there a bit to come alive. Fortin BONES has the best master I've ever heard at any volume.

[se7en]

If I was going for a good 'jam at home amp' and a 'live stage volume that is somewhat in the vein of an SLO, I'd probably go with a PT100 (high-mid, but grainier) or a Elmwood Modena. I'm not a big 6L6 fan, though.

The SLO still has something unique when it gets wound up to a real roaring volume that others don't, but, I feel they can get similar sounds and the masters on these amps combined with the tone shaping options gives you more flexibility. I liked my SLO either at 1 or under at home and at 4 or higher for stage volume...between 1 and 4 I didn't dig it as much. Just my 2 cent's worth.

[Wizard of Ozz]

what else gets soldano sustain? what amps do you recommend?

In no particular order...

Diezel Herbert or VH4 (best master volume amps around IMHO)
Suhr PT100
Engl SE
Bogner XTC
Marshall JVM410
Mesa Mark IV

... all have the same amount of "sustain" (not sure exactly what you mean)... but all these amps I have owned or still own... and they all do the same tones +/- as a SLO albeit with their owning voicing (brighter, darker, tighter, faster/slower attack etc)... and they all sound much better at lower volumes than the SLO.

PS: Soldano offers an optional "master volume" mod for a reason guys ;).

[SgtThump]

In no particular order...

Diezel Herbert or VH4 (best master volume amps around IMHO)
Suhr PT100
Engl SE
Bogner XTC
Marshall JVM410
Mesa Mark IV

... all have the same amount of "sustain" (not sure exactly what you mean)... but all these amps I have owned or still own... and they all do the same tones +/- as a SLO albeit with their owning voicing (brighter, darker, tighter, faster/slower attack etc)... and they all sound much better at lower volumes than the SLO.

PS: Soldano offers an optional "master volume" mod for a reason guys ;).

You can say what you want and of course, everyone's entitled to an opinion. :) But I'm telling you that I've owned ALOT of amps and in my opinion, the SLO sounded great at home volumes. Just slightly above whisper quiet so it wouldn't be as muffled sounding. Still bedroom volumes.

And I'm probably the guy the OP is talking about with the video at low levels. Sounds great to me! (minus the crappy camera recording part of it)

[loudgtr]

I've owned alot of amps as well and my Soldano's have always sounded great at 'bedroom" levels. Part of the Soldano 'controlled clipping' preamp circuit that makes it sound awesome at lower volumes.

[Smokin]

I never thought the SLO sounded great at bedroom volumes...I was always tweaking it to balance the EQ. I think there are better choices out there if this is what the OP needs. It says a lot about the company if they need to offer a 'master volume mod' or a 'depth mod', etc...maybe it's just me, but if I pay $3400 for an amp, I shouldn't have to mod it.

[peanutavalon]

how about the master on the hot rod 50? any good?

[SgtThump]

I never thought the SLO sounded great at bedroom volumes...I was always tweaking it to balance the EQ. I think there are better choices out there if this is what the OP needs. It says a lot about the company if they need to offer a 'master volume mod' or a 'depth mod', etc...maybe it's just me, but if I pay $3400 for an amp, I shouldn't have to mod it.

Some people want the depth mod, some don't. Some people want the Haynes mod, some don't. etc, etc, etc, etc...

The fact that they offer options on their amps that a buyer can choose to get does indeed say something about a company. It says they're willing to work with people to get the amp the way they need it (and charge for it, of course.)

[Smokin]

Some people want the depth mod, some don't. Some people want the Haynes mod, some don't. etc, etc, etc, etc...

The fact that they offer options on their amps that a buyer can choose to get does indeed say something about a company. It says they're willing to work with people to get the amp the way they need it (and charge for it, of course.)

I meant to say that it says a lot about the amp...Why not include the mods? If it doesn't degrade the tone? I mean it's so cheap to do...it really boggles my mind. And then to charge $250 per mod?...:barf

[TTripp]

I meant to say that it says a lot about the amp...Why not include the mods? If it doesn't degrade the tone? I mean it's so cheap to do...it really boggles my mind. And then to charge $250 per mod?...:barf

I've read (which doen't necessarily make it true) that Mike prefers and recommends the stock SLO. It's not a question of soaking the customer for necessary mods, it's just that the stock circuit is his vision for the amp, and the mods take away from that. But if you want 'em, he'll do 'em.

[Jim S]

I meant to say that it says a lot about the amp...Why not include the mods? If it doesn't degrade the tone? I mean it's so cheap to do...it really boggles my mind. And then to charge $250 per mod?...:barf
Don't get it then. I find the scoop mod invaluable for getting funky tones as well great crunch tones.

What's the correlation of the subjects in your post?:huh

[Pete Faragher]

I always found the SLO to be great at low volumes. But I don't use the lead channel at all (which I find thin-ish). The lead channel might be a little buzzy down low. The clean channel with the gain way up is the thing for me. That channel remains big and smooth at small club volumes. Turn down the guitar, cleans up, turn it up, rocks out. I like the SLO for it's articulation and unique tone. I've used SLO's in pubs the size of a living room and it's been fine. (Along with being fine on large 2500 seat venues of course :p)

However if the OP is a bedroom player and doesn't want to disturb the kids/wife/mom/dad/neighbour downstairs, get something else. No reason to have an amp with that much firepower.

[gearo999]

IMO the SLO sucks at low volume and to be in the tone zone it needs to be cranked. I have an XTC, JVM, Splawn and several Engl amps that sound good at TV level.

[Jack Luminous]

My SLO sounds great at TV volume and indeed, there's something to be said about the clean channel in crunch mode. It's voiced darker than the lead channel and kinda counteracts the inherent buzziness brought by real low volume.

[Shark Diver]

In no particular order...

Diezel Herbert or VH4 (best master volume amps around IMHO)
Suhr PT100
Engl SE
Bogner XTC
Marshall JVM410
Mesa Mark IV

... all have the same amount of "sustain" (not sure exactly what you mean)... but all these amps I have owned or still own... and they all do the same tones +/- as a SLO albeit with their owning voicing (brighter, darker, tighter, faster/slower attack etc)... and they all sound much better at lower volumes than the SLO.

PS: Soldano offers an optional "master volume" mod for a reason guys ;).

I've owned all of these amps except the Marshall. Without saying anything negative about these - you do not get the SLO tone, voicing aside, from any of them. VH4 being the closest. That doesn't mean those amps aren't excellent amps.

So much of this is simply what cabs, etc you are using. Some speakers sound dead unless you push them. And if pushed speakers are an integral part of your sound, obviously you won't get a good bedroom sound.

[peanutavalon]

I always found the SLO to be great at low volumes. But I don't use the lead channel at all (which I find thin-ish). The lead channel might be a little buzzy down low. The clean channel with the gain way up is the thing for me. That channel remains big and smooth at small club volumes. Turn down the guitar, cleans up, turn it up, rocks out. I like the SLO for it's articulation and unique tone. I've used SLO's in pubs the size of a living room and it's been fine. (Along with being fine on large 2500 seat venues of course :p)

However if the OP is a bedroom player and doesn't want to disturb the kids/wife/mom/dad/neighbour downstairs, get something else. No reason to have an amp with that much firepower.


I'd most likely be using it in all situations big, small and at home.

[LAVALLE]

It rocks at all volumes. Amazing amp.

I couldn't agree more!!

[joolzriff]

best hi gain amp made..end of story

[Jack Luminous]

I'd most likely be using it in all situations big, small and at home.

Then get it, that's exactly what I do with mine. Of course it sounds better at crazy stage volume but it is really great at home volume too. Either you will click with the tone or not. Eventually, if you do, in some years, like many other SLO owners, you won't be able to do without it and all other amps will seem kinda bland to you. Everytime I fire it up, I can't help it but grinning from ear to ear. :cool:

[Jim S]

Then get it, that's exactly what I do with mine. Of course it sounds better at crazy stage volume but it is really great at home volume too. Either you will click with the tone or not. Eventually, if you do, in some years, like many other SLO owners, you won't be able to do without it and all other amps will seem kinda bland to you. Everytime I fire it up, I can't help it but grinning from ear to ear. :cool:
:agree .....

... :beer

[peanutavalon]

Anyone else ue their soldanos in smaller venues? 80-150 people?

[SvenHock]

Anyone else ue their soldanos in smaller venues? 80-150 people?

I do and it works just fine it that situation.

[Jim S]

Anyone else ue their soldanos in smaller venues? 80-150 people?
Yes. From home to small to larger venues.

[LPMojoGL]

lol, a year and a half later!

[Nico.]

IMO the SLO sucks at low volume and to be in the tone zone it needs to be cranked. I have an XTC, JVM, Splawn and several Engl amps that sound good at TV level.

My Ecstasy 101B doesn't sound good at tv volumes. In fact it sounds pretty bad at those volumes, just like pretty much every high wattage amp I have played or owned. I don't know at what volumes you watch tv though....

[tsar nicholas]

Hey guys, this might sound like a dumb question, but how good are the clean sounds on an SLO? I can't really tell from the YouTube videos.

For reference, I like big fat chunky cleans (with a little edge), as opposed to super crispy chimey 80s metal cleans

[eddy999]

It's not the real thing (but pretty close IMO), however my SLO clone sounds great to me at low volume. A quick clip I recorded with the OD master at 0.5 out of 11. Recorded with a crappy flip video recorder, but you get the idea.

oops - just noticed the date of this thread :)

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[Jim S]

Hey guys, this might sound like a dumb question, but how good are the clean sounds on an SLO? I can't really tell from the YouTube videos.

For reference, I like big fat chunky cleans (with a little edge), as opposed to super crispy chimey 80s metal cleans
I really have no idea what you mean.

But the cleans are nice but not to die for. The SCOOP MOD can help move into Fender Black Face territory when in the CLEAN mode or CRUNCH mode with a bit of gain for a Fender breaking up thing.

[peanutavalon]

lol, a year and a half later!


Yep..I've been contemplating it that long!

[EADGBE]

I played one years ago at a music store and it didn't sound good at low volume. It was still very loud but without any distortion or overdrive. I also played a Hot Rod 50. I had the money. I could have bought either amp. But I passed them up because of this. So I'd say they have to be cranked to sound good. Of course it could have been just these two particular amps. Where I live I can't played super loud. Not only that I have to protect my hearing. I ended up buying a Marshall TSL602. It sounds good at low volume.

[Jim S]

I played one years ago at a music store and it didn't sound good at low volume. It was still very loud but without any distortion or overdrive.
You definitely did not set it up right.

[LPMojoGL]

You definitely did not set it up right.

I agree. I recorded lots of great sounds with my HR50+ turned down, and have spent some time on the SLO at quiet to ear-ringing volumes. Contrary to what a lot of people say, I thought the clean/crunch channel was awesome. Set it for slight breakup, back off guitar volume for clean, hit with pedal for crunch, go to OD channel for singing lead and hard rock/metal crunch.

[57gold]

Don't buy an SLO.

Had one for years, bought from Soldano when they were sold directly from LA, CA.

Great amp, just not a good for home amp...needs to opened up to do its thing.

It sounds best with MV out of the way, turned up (Warren Haynes style), which makes it good and loud...like to 11.

MV turned down and you lose tone...why, frickin' thing is a professional stage amp, a classic, a pure bread 100 watts EC, EVH, WH, MK in concert for 10,000 folks amp, not a home studio amp.

And, anyone who says otherwise is full of s#$t. Yes, you can make sound with the MV turned down...but it will be a shadow of what the amp does when it is used as intended.

You want one in your living room, have pride of ownership of a classic...all great. But get a 2X 6V6 or EL84 amp for home/studio usage, if that's what its for.

[Braciola]

But get a 2X 6V6 or EL84 amp for home/studio usage, if that's what its for.

And what 2X 6V6 or EL84 have you played that sounds better than a SLO with the master turned low?

[Jim S]

Don't buy an SLO.

Had one for years, bought from Soldano when they were sold directly from LA, CA.

Great amp, just not a good for home amp...needs to opened up to do its thing.

It sounds best with MV out of the way, turned up (Warren Haynes style), which makes it good and loud...like to 11.

MV turned down and you lose tone...why, frickin' thing is a professional stage amp, a classic, a pure bread 100 watts EC, EVH, WH, MK in concert for 10,000 folks amp, not a home studio amp.

And, anyone who says otherwise is full of s#$t. Yes, you can make sound with the MV turned down...but it will be a shadow of what the amp does when it is used as intended.

You want one in your living room, have pride of ownership of a classic...all great. But get a 2X 6V6 or EL84 amp for home/studio usage, if that's what its for.

:facepalm

[tsar nicholas]

I really have no idea what you mean.

But the cleans are nice but not to die for. The SCOOP MOD can help move into Fender Black Face territory when in the CLEAN mode or CRUNCH mode with a bit of gain for a Fender breaking up thing.

Thanks amigo!


Here's what I think of as an awesome clean sound :

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^ I think the particular amp in use is a Two-Rock

[peanutavalon]

Don't buy an SLO.

Had one for years, bought from Soldano when they were sold directly from LA, CA.

Great amp, just not a good for home amp...needs to opened up to do its thing.

It sounds best with MV out of the way, turned up (Warren Haynes style), which makes it good and loud...like to 11.

MV turned down and you lose tone...why, frickin' thing is a professional stage amp, a classic, a pure bread 100 watts EC, EVH, WH, MK in concert for 10,000 folks amp, not a home studio amp.

And, anyone who says otherwise is full of s#$t. Yes, you can make sound with the MV turned down...but it will be a shadow of what the amp does when it is used as intended.

You want one in your living room, have pride of ownership of a classic...all great. But get a 2X 6V6 or EL84 amp for home/studio usage, if that's what its for.

I don't want a bedroom amp..I want another amp that I can play out with and use at home. I play loud at home..I also will be playing the hell out of my amps this summer with my band 3 times a week..

I called Soldano today and asked him about the functionality of the master volume, tone loss etc. He explained to me that the amps tone primarily comes from the preamp and the power amp is there if you need it. He said the amp sounds great at tv volume all the way up. yes it sounds best turned up but also sounds pretty darn good at lower volumes. He seems like a very sincere guy when I explained my situation for use of the amp. I'm not a shredder but a blues/rock player. He told me the amp will do whatever you throw at it. It's meant to be a well rounded amp not just for hard rockers..I wanna try one!

[Jim S]

Thanks amigo!


Here's what I think of as an awesome clean sound :

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^ I think the particular amp in use is a Two-Rock
I think with the right speakers you probably can, yes. Ie, some set of Scumbacks.

BTW, that's a great clip!

:beer

[EADGBE]

You definitely did not set it up right.

I set it up like all of the amps I play through. It was the first amp I tried. It was the one I wanted to buy. But it didn't sound good at low volume. It wouldn't overdrive. I'd still like to own a Hot rod 50 if I could find one that sounds good at low volume. But I haven't seen one since. Anyway at the time I just figured it is one of those amps that has to be cranked to sing. Or I thought the preamp tubes were probably low output. Or those particular power tubes weren't a good match for that circuit.

[Jim S]

I set it up like all of the amps I play through. It was the first amp I tried. It was the one I wanted to buy. But it didn't sound good at low volume. It wouldn't overdrive.
That's like saying you test drove a Ferrari and couldn't get it above 55mph. Something was not right. There's no doubt. This isn't a "I like this tone but you don't" opinion. If the SLO wouldn't overdrive then something was clearly wrong.

[Bobby D]

Hi. I saw a few clips on youtube of a guy using a SLO at lower volumes. Does this amp do well at lower volumes or does it have to be cranked to get the goods? thanks


i just demoed a 2004 SLO that belongs to a good friend, and was BLOWN AWAY by the amp.


i have owned Soldanos since 1993, starting with a Hot Rod 50 and matching 2x12 cab -- had an atomic 16 and astroverb -- then graduated to a Reverb-o-Sonic 2x12 combo.

every Soldano i have ever had sounded GOOD - and Mike and Bill at Soldano are GREAT to talk to and deal with. Mike has spent HOURS with me on the phone chatting about the amps and the tech.

the SLO was the only amp i have never owned - and when my buddy Dave snagged one used, i went with him to pick it up and take it home.

within 2 minutes, i had it dialed in PERFECT for me, with even volume between the clean/dirty channels.

recorded my demos with master just below "2" on the dial -- you could talk over the amp in the room.


and it sounded GREAT to my ears -- i worried that the SLO might be too loud of an amp to do club gigs with, but i was wrong.


what i have my eye and ears on now is that BCM 44 Soldano combo -- it's like a little SLO in a 1x12 combo format -- and looks to be the "swiss army knife" of the Soldano family - that amp gives me GAS :drool

[tsar nicholas]

I think with the right speakers you probably can, yes. Ie, some set of Scumbacks.

BTW, that's a great clip!

:beer

^ thanks again for the tips, hombre! Yeah, that Schofield guy is bananas! Killer funk and tone.

[Bobby D]

damnit -- according to the 57gold poster, i am "full of SH$%T"


lol........would not be the first time :horse


but to my ears, which are a little bit educated when it comes to amps and guitars -- it sure sounded GOOD to me at low volumes.


maybe it's because my EARS are "full of sh4%t" too? :)


i dunno -- i think with a variety of speaker cabs -- 1x12, 2x12, 4x12, etc -- i could do ANY gig i need to do with an SLO and be as happy as a pig in sh$%T -- so yeah, maybe i AM "full of sh#$t" :YinYang

[Jemlite]

I've used a SLO many times playing small bars/clubs no prob. Sounds great. I don't use it at home really, but to me it isn't that bad super low volume into some 65w Scumbacks. I can see it being cool dialed in right. Mine has some mods tho...

The lower the volume the more the depth mod helps smooth it out and keep it chunky. When cranked a little more, it isn't really needed . I pretty much have it set at 0 to 2 then.

...and IMO the clean channel is much much better with the mid cut mod. It's warmer and Fendery. Still not perfect, but better.

[LPMojoGL]

And, anyone who says otherwise is full of s#$t.

Tone is subjective. Anyone is entitled to their opinion, even you. But to say someone is full of it because their opinion does not match yours is just closed-minded jerkedness.

[Bobby D]

i still think that sexy little combo that James designed, the BCM 44 -- is gonna be the ULTIMATE club gigging Soldano amp.......

i need to get in touch with james, and see how many times he's gonna need his grass cut and car washed this summer :drool

[Bobby D]

That's like saying you test drove a Ferrari and couldn't get it above 55mph. Something was not right. There's no doubt. This isn't a "I like this tone but you don't" opinion. If the SLO wouldn't overdrive then something was clearly wrong.

man, i had it OVERDRIVING on the crunc channel at low volume, and had LIQUID sustain and tone with the lead channel.

i IMMMEDIATELY called Mike Soldano and said "what's all the BS about the SLO only being good for loud stages? i had it sounded great at CONVERSATIONAL LEVELS in the living room with my buddy, while peeling off RATT licks and George Lynch solo licks........

Mike says that many people do not understand how great that amp can sound at low volume. he made a believer out of me, and with our over 15 year relationship, he's never lied to me ONCE, why would he start now with a USED amp that we snagged at GC????

no matter WHERE i get his amps, he is always willing to help me out, just as much as if i had bought it NEW from him.

lots of really nice guys in this biz -- Fryette,,,,,Mark Bartel/Tone King.....Doug Hoffman.....George Scholz (a little weird), Mike Bendinelli from BOOGIE......Paul from Nolatone.....the PURE 64 guys......but my all time fave is MIKE SOLDANO - he is always on an even keel, picks up up his own phone, always willing to help, and let's be honest -- he created a TOUCHSTONE of amp design and sound with the SLO 100 that has not been bettered since!:YinYang

[JB6464]

I love the SLO and HR100+ amps but nothing beats my Modded Marshall Plexi reissue i once owned that Bill Sundt modded . I regret to this day ever selling that amp and would do it again over a SLO choice.
I got the best of both worlds with the SLO preamp gain and the power section of a Marshall screaming through GE/Sylvania 6CA7 tubes.
A much different tone than through a RCA/Fender curcuit with 6L6GE tubes.

[lespaul6]

I have used my SLO exclusively for years both in the house and small gigs..in the house I played it at lower volumes out of necessity and it worked ok. My favorite setting was the master volume on 6 and the preamp on 5..it just seemed to really sound great there....I've gone back to 2203's and an overdrive the past two years. I can get a decent bedroom tone but it still sound better overall with the volume at 4 or above. I should say I always use Vintage 30's- which also sound better when pushed soooo....

[57gold]

Someone asked what sounds better as a home/studio amp...a Carol-Ann OD2 50 watt (MV works much better than SLO), Alessandro Black n' Tan @ 20 watts (w/Airbrake down a couple of clicks) are a few that can be get to their sweet spots without shaking the windows. They won't do goofy 80's horse whinny sounds and spandex/hair band style "sqeal like a pig" noises...at least not to my knowledge, but they sustain and give up their fullness of tone in a closed, small room without killing innocents.

Not in any way knocking the SLO 100, a great amp, a loud amp, if you want one amp and dig the SLO...it has an MV that gives a reasonable facsimile of its full tonal capabilities with MV turned down. Go for it.

Not a surprise that Mike wants you to buy one. He's a good business man and designed a great concert stage amp 25+ years ago that has become a classic.

[raugie]

I really like the lead channel tones I get running my SLO through an old Marshall 4x12 at MV as low as 1.5 to 2.5. It sounds great louder too, but I wouldn't dissuade someone from buying one out of fear that you couldn't play one at home or in a studio.