View Full Version : Do you like other peoples kids?
MudPies
11-13-2009, 09:59 AM
Poll'd
Dr. Tweedbucket
11-13-2009, 10:01 AM
I hope it's a 10 point poll considering there is a lot of ground to cover here. :knitting
drgonzoguitar
11-13-2009, 10:02 AM
As a stay-at-home, it is part of the job requirement to like other kids. :dunno
JamesT
11-13-2009, 10:04 AM
Only when they are leashed and muzzeled. I think some kids should be crated like dogs.
jakes guitars
11-13-2009, 10:05 AM
I guess Im just used to my own kids. Not that I dont like other peoples kids, but whenever my kids have friends over, I usually hide and let the wife deal with it.
angrybandnerd
11-13-2009, 10:07 AM
If raised right and well mannered I love other peoples kids.
Like most things in life that aren't black and white; some yes, some no.
smallbutmighty
11-13-2009, 10:10 AM
Like most things in life that aren't black and white; some yes, some no.
This.
The Golden Boy
11-13-2009, 10:20 AM
As long as they're beer battered and deep fried.
Crunchy on the outside and soft and tender on the inside.
Goes good with Soylent Green.
Yum-O.
JamesT
11-13-2009, 10:22 AM
:roll
Suproman77
11-13-2009, 10:24 AM
Like most things in life that aren't black and white; some yes, some no.
Yep.
ACfixer
11-13-2009, 10:25 AM
Given the choices I voted generally no, but I'll qualify. Most the time if I don't like kids, it's really the lack of good parenting that irks me. Most kids would be fine in my book if they were taught to be polite and respectful.
Only when they are leashed and muzzeled. I think some kids should be crated like dogs.
At least we now know what they did to you. :stir
Flyin' Brian
11-13-2009, 10:28 AM
It depends. I spent the day at the zoo yesterday. Most of the kids were pretty well behaved. There needed to be some strong to ones who weren't.
Usually my words would be directed at the parents and their inability to parent.
Dillow4092
11-13-2009, 10:28 AM
When kids are young you have to be on them 24/7 teaching right from wrong. Hopefully you do a good enough job and they learn. Some kids however get caught up in the wrong environment. For someone to say they hate kids, should probablly meet the parents first. Then you might be able to understand why the kids are they way they are.
Today's generation is totally different then when I was young. I'm 45 now. My dad put a foot where the sun don't shine when I needed it, and tought me right from wrong most of the time. Today's parents feel like they can't discipline their kids for fear of getting into trouble.
But to answer you're question I love kids especially when they are young. They are so full of life, tons of fun to talk to.
FeloniousBishop
11-13-2009, 10:37 AM
I didn't like other people's kids too much until I had my own kids. Now I realize kids are pretty great and yes I like other people's kids.
Rattles
11-13-2009, 10:39 AM
If raised right and well mannered I love other peoples kids.
:dude exactly!!
JamesT
11-13-2009, 10:39 AM
Why Luke how did you guess?
kludge
11-13-2009, 10:51 AM
It depends on the kid, but I find lots of kids completely charming.
The last "other person's kid" I really dealt with was a friend's five year old daughter. She inherited her mother's amazing beautiful green eyes and expressive face, and I spent a good hour trying to win my way into this shy little girl's heart. I don't know if I succeeded.
The best musical audience I ever had consisted of one little girl, maybe six or seven. Her parents' car had just been in an accident on a mountain road and was probably totaled, although no one was hurt. The little girl was moderately autistic and completely freaked out. Her mother was trying to deal with her and I offered to help. I gave her a cookie and some "magic water" (spring water I'd collected earlier from a clean mountain spring), which got her under control so we could get her out of the car. Then we had an autistic child next to a busy road in the mountains, eep! But she loved music, so I told her I would play for her as long as she sat still. I was able to keep her from running around for about a half hour, which I think was a triumph. Her applause was better than a big audience.
Analog Delay
11-13-2009, 11:03 AM
The last "other person's kid" I really dealt with was a friend's five year old daughter. She inherited her mother's amazing beautiful green eyes and expressive face, and I spent a good hour trying to win my way into this shy little girl's heart. I don't know if I succeeded.
Anybody know the number for Child Protective Services in Minneapolis?
:roll
ducatisteve
11-13-2009, 11:15 AM
If raised right and well mannered I love other peoples kids.
+eleventy billion
But sadly I think that these are more the exception than the rule so I had to vote "Generally no".
Midnight Lady
11-13-2009, 11:17 AM
I spent the day at the zoo yesterday. Most of the kids were pretty well behaved. There needed to be some strong to ones who weren't. Yes - for example - in the Panda enclosure there are signs everywhere asking for silence - that the animals are sensitive and do not like noise. There was an 8 or 9 year old boy in front of us with his father. The father asked him to be quiet, the boys response was I DON'T WANT TO BE QUIET, WHY DO I HAVE TO BE QUIET. The father whispered a response and the boy responded with the same loud voice. The father did nothing further. The kid got the attention of all the other people there and I'm sure affected the serenity of the panda enclosure.
He should have been removed from the area by his father as soon as he did not lower his voice after the first warning - he was not.
I want to give some kudos here... we of course love our six grandchildren, but there were two children we met recently who should be mentioned.
When travelling through Nevada, we met TGP member GAT. We also had the pleasure of meeting his lovely wife and two beautiful daughters. Brian and I were SO impressed with these kids. They were intelligent, inquisitive, and charming. Also extremely well-behaved and polite. They were part of all the conversations but did not try to monopolize or interrupt.
Gilbert we were so impressed, we still talk about them! Kudos to you and Deana for doing such a wonderful job of parenting.
:aok
Most kids are great,I like 'em.
Bob Longo
11-13-2009, 11:42 AM
OPK's are OK by me.
Dillow4092
11-13-2009, 11:43 AM
yes - for example - in the panda enclosure there are signs everywhere asking for silence - that the animals are sensitive and do not like noise. There was an 8 or 9 year old boy in front of us with his father. The father asked him to be quiet, the boys response was i don't want to be quiet, why do i have to be quiet. The father whispered a response and the boy responded with the same loud voice. The father did nothing further. The kid got the attention of all the other people there and i'm sure affected the serenity of the panda enclosure.
He should have been removed from the area by his father as soon as he did not lower his voice after the first warning - he was not.
I want to give some kudos here... We of course love our six grandchildren, but there were two children we met recently who should be mentioned.
When travelling through nevada, we met tgp member gat. We also had the pleasure of meeting his lovely wife and two beautiful daughters. Brian and i were so impressed with these kids. They were intelligent, inquisitive, and charming. Also extremely well-behaved and polite. They were part of all the conversations but did not try to monopolize or interrupt.
Gilbert we were so impressed, we still talk about them! Kudos to you and deana for doing such a wonderful job of parenting.
:aok
thank you, thank you it's about time someone with some positive feedback!!!
All children are precious.
Every one.
Behavior problems are almost always due to parenting.
dc
I want to give some kudos here... we of course love our six grandchildren, but there were two children we met recently who should be mentioned.
When travelling through Nevada, we met TGP member GAT. We also had the pleasure of meeting his lovely wife and two beautiful daughters. Brian and I were SO impressed with these kids. They were intelligent, inquisitive, and charming. Also extremely well-behaved and polite. They were part of all the conversations but did not try to monopolize or interrupt.
Gilbert we were so impressed, we still talk about them! Kudos to you and Deana for doing such a wonderful job of parenting.
:aok
Wow, thanks so much! We have been very hands on and work really hard to raise our kids. I'm around kids all day, being a Pediatric Dentist, and I see all ranges of behavior. It really always comes down to parenting skills.
Doug H
11-13-2009, 12:16 PM
Kids are just little people. Some I like, some I don't. When I don't like them sometimes it's due to behavior and can be traced to parenting. But sometimes it's due to personality. There. I said it. Just like adults, kids can have very annoying personalities.
But most kids I like just fine. I love the sounds of kids playing outdoors in the neighborhood. I love seeing them come to the door on Halloween, especially the real little ones that are trick or treating for the first time. And I love seeing a kid ride a shiny new bike, scooter, or go kart down the street on Christmas day. Stuff like that really makes me smile.
Kids are just little people
This is a fundamental misunderstanding. They are not at all "little people".
They are children, and they look to bond with their parents so that their brain development can occur in the best possible fashion. They have a special need for and relationship to parents and adults. We know that if you talk to babies they will talk sooner and socialize sooner. We know that if you read to young children they will earn to read sooner, their intellectual development will speed up and they will socialize sooner and better, and there's much more.
I know you were mainly talking about personalities, and they indeed do have unique personalities at a young age. They also can choose between bad tendencies or follow the guidance of parents and adults. We are so terribly important in their lives.
dc
Blue Light
11-13-2009, 12:29 PM
Interesting question! I have daughters so most of the kids I've seen so far are of course other girls, and most of them have been sweet.
Now I'm seeing a few boys and I'm surprised at how.... uh... shy most of them are.
I could say antisocial, but I won't. Well, for years we've been visiting the houses of other families and the scene is generally the same: the girls sit around talking, socializing, doing something. The boys are locked away in a private universe called the video game.
It's made me feel real funny about video games.
We don't do games in this house, by the way. We've got ONE -- Dance, Dance Revolution, which is a very social, fun game.
And so I've wondered: If I had a son, would I always have to deal with this video game lockdown?
(If you're a game freak, you might think I'm some deadbeat Methusalah. But all you can do is what you know how to do.)
The other night, I went to pick up my 15 year old daughter at a fellow's house and he was bright-eyed and direct. He looked right at me and said something cheerful. And I thought, oh, damn, that's good to see.
REMEMBER THIS. For years, my kids have been asked this question. The teacher will ask the class how many of them sit at the dinner table with the family at night. At my kids tell me they are usually the only ones. And I've had to think, is this because we're part of a frantic NYC suburb? Or is this way folks dine now in America -- separated from one another?
Doug H
11-13-2009, 12:29 PM
This is a fundamental misunderstanding. They are not at all "little people".
Wow... Touched a nerve. On a Friday afternoon no less...
Second one today at this place. Sheesh...
Guitar55
11-13-2009, 12:29 PM
Only when they are leashed and muzzeled. I think some kids should be crated like dogs.
Not to mention some adults. :crazy
Wow... Touched a nerve. On a Friday afternoon no less...
Second one today at this place. Sheesh...
No nerves here. Just wanted to hip you to the dangers of the "little people" view.
It has caused all sorts of bad parenting.
dc
bkd_guitarist
11-13-2009, 12:30 PM
If raised right and well mannered I love other peoples kids.
This. Since most other people's kids do not fit this description, I answered no.
Doug H
11-13-2009, 12:31 PM
Only when they are leashed and muzzeled. I think some kids should be crated like dogs.
At least we now know what they did to you. :stir
Pretty close to the truth I bet. Most people who hate kids had terrible childhoods. It's their own childhood they actually hate.
whitecadillac
11-13-2009, 12:32 PM
I like kids.
Chuck Snider
11-13-2009, 12:33 PM
No, not if their parents are idiots. Which sadly but true is the majority in So Cal.....
There should be a test people have to pass before they crap out their images.......
Doug H
11-13-2009, 12:33 PM
No nerves here. Just wanted to hip you to the dangers of the "little people" view.
It has caused all sorts of bad parenting.
dc
Too late for me, my kids are 15 and 21, baby factory's been closed for years. I couldn't care less about the trials & tribulations of parenting at this point. My point was about personalities. I'm not writing a child-rearing book.
reddgeetarzan
11-13-2009, 12:48 PM
Wow, thanks so much! We have been very hands on and work really hard to raise our kids. I'm around kids all day, being a Pediatric Dentist, and I see all ranges of behavior. It really always comes down to parenting skills.
Did you notice your post count on this one?? :stir
JamesT
11-13-2009, 12:52 PM
what is a little people view?
I actually took kids on a 1 at a time individual thing. Just in last 10 or 15 years poor parents that do not make their kids behave in public is what makes me not like them...
Too late for me, my kids are 15 and 21, baby factory's been closed for years. I couldn't care less about the trials & tribulations of parenting at this point. My point was about personalities. I'm not writing a child-rearing book.
Nice to be done, huh?
dc
No, not if their parents are idiots. Which sadly but true is the majority in So Cal.....
There should be a test people have to pass before they crap out their images.......
Crap out?
Wow
Someone has issues...
:knitting
dc
what is a little people view?
I actually took kids on a 1 at a time individual thing. Just in last 10 or 15 years poor parents that do not make their kids behave in public is what makes me not like them...
The view that children are equals and do not need parenting, just friends.
dc
lpfella
11-13-2009, 01:01 PM
Have no kids of my own to like and think if I did I might like other kids better. That is what I have loved about not be a parent. I can enjoy other's kids and give them back at the end of the day.
JamesT
11-13-2009, 01:01 PM
oh... I have seen kids whose parents decide to be their friends in stead of parent... kind of disastrious.
Honga Man
11-13-2009, 01:07 PM
I don't like other people's children, and I'm not so sure about my own, either.
Doug H
11-13-2009, 01:14 PM
(re. "Little People view") The view that children are equals and do not need parenting, just friends.
dc
Now see, that's an example of internet exaggeration. When I mentioned "little people" I meant nothing of the sort and it's funny how when you mention a trigger phrase (evidently) how people extrapolate it into all kinds of dimensions of meaning that were never even imagined when it was used. I certainly don't subscribe to that view, never have and never will.
Kids are kids and have very different needs than adults. I like spending time with my kids (my son plays bass and we have a lot of fun playing together) but they are not "just friends".
Doug H
11-13-2009, 01:17 PM
Nice to be done, huh?
dc
Well, you're never "done" completely... But as for all the baby, toddler, personality-forming stuff- it's great man, really great...
Now see, that's an example of internet exaggeration. When I mentioned "little people" I meant nothing of the sort and it's funny how when you mention a trigger phrase (evidently) how people extrapolate it into all kinds of dimensions of meaning that were never even imagined when it was used. I certainly don't subscribe to that view, never have and never will.
Kids are kids and have very different needs than adults. I like spending time with my kids (my son plays bass and we have a lot of fun playing together) but they are not "just friends".
Exactly. No one knows often what we mean by our statements. Thanks for the clarification.
dc
Did you notice your post count on this one?? :stir
Ha! :Devil
I usually like the kids more than the parents.
Chuck Snider
11-13-2009, 01:59 PM
Crap out?
Wow
Someone has issues...
:knitting
dc
Well Dr DC,
I worked for the School district in Long Beach for a few years..
I've earned the right to say anything I want...
Go back to your bubble........
greggorypeccary
11-13-2009, 02:04 PM
If raised right and well mannered I love other peoples kids.
As a high school teacher, I have to deal with other people's kids...in large groups. The above quote pretty much sums up my professional experience.
Well Dr DC,
I worked for the School district in Long Beach for a few years..
I've earned the right to say anything I want...
Go back to your bubble........
Glad you are not there any more...
Crap out?
:confused:
dc
Flavum
11-13-2009, 02:17 PM
One of my favorite (regrettably out-of-print) T-shirts:
http://www.flavum.com/Picts/IHYK.jpg
908SSP
11-13-2009, 02:22 PM
Like most things in life that aren't black and white; some yes, some no.
:agree
lakehaus
11-13-2009, 02:22 PM
Kids are kids... so yes I do like other people's kids.
Some parents need lessons on raising kids. Kids need nurturing, love, and direction. Kids shouldn't direct the parents - that's when I have issues with other people with kids.
derekd
11-13-2009, 02:28 PM
Kids are kids... so yes I do like other people's kids.
Some parents need lessons on raising kids. Kids need nurturing, love, and direction. Kids shouldn't direct the parents - that's when I have issues with other people with kids.
Agreed. I run a biz that teaches people's kids. Kids are great, parents aren't always.
Gas-man
11-13-2009, 02:35 PM
I have a saying.
There is nothing more interesting to me in this world than my children.
And nothing less interesting to me in this world than your children.
You guys without kids, well...
cooljuk
11-13-2009, 02:46 PM
Totally depends on the kid.
...or more specifically the parents of the kid and what they've taught/not taught the kid as far as manners.
edgewound
11-13-2009, 03:02 PM
Totally depends on the kid.
...or more specifically the parents of the kid and what they've taught/not taught the kid as far as manners.
I'm in this camp, too.
Usually, if I don't like the kids I don't care for the parents either. My own kids take some time....not very much... to figure out that some new "friends" turn out to be not so good friends. I love their good friends. They're great people.
There's no one I'd rather hang out with than my wife and all of our kids....15, 17, 22. 27.
bkd_guitarist
11-13-2009, 03:23 PM
Kids shouldn't direct the parents - that's when I have issues with other people with kids.
This.
You know how I know I'm not going to like someone's kids? When I'm having a conversation with the parent, and I can't complete a 5-second sentence without them getting distracted by their kids. Kid walks up, needs something, and bang - the parent's attention is instantly focused on them, regardless of what else is going on or how trivial the kid's need is. It's indicative of a child-centered philosophy that tells the kid, "You are the most important thing in the world, and nothing anyone else has to say could POSSIBLY be as important as you showing me the booger you just dug out of your nose, my precious little poopsy." And we wonder why kids grow up with such a sense of entitlement.
BTW, that's a parent problem, not a kid problem. There are very few kid problems that don't start out as parent problems.
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