I Ordered a Dunlop/CAE MC-404 Wah-Wah

[Stratman69]

I ordered a Dunlop/Custom Audio Electronics MC-404 Wah-Wah today....

I just couldn't resist it any longer....

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq352/Stratman-69/1235499715_MC404_Web_L.jpg

To me it just seemed like the ultimate package in terms of Wah pedals.


If you haven't read about it or don't own one already then here's what it has to offer:


- Select between a Yellow or Red Fasel Inductor for two distinct tones

- Features a custom designed CTS extended life low noise potentiometer

- Internal trimpots to adjust the "Q" for each inductor

- User selectable gain output stage with kick switch and led indicator

- Designed with low noise class ‘A’ operational amplifiers

- Kick switches for effortless Inductor/Boost bypass

- Bright LEDs indicate effect status, Inductor mode and Boost on or off mode

- True bypass

- Fuzz friendly technology


It's literally two pedals in one, however, you can only use the built-in CAE MC-401 Boost/LineDriver while the Wah is engaged, not seperately, which seems to be it's only drawback. But for me, that would be the only time I would use the Boost function (whenever I need help cutting through the mix during a Wah solo).

Basically, this pedal seems to be an extremely well-done/suped-up version of the Crybaby Classic.

This past year or two, i've really seen Dunlop/MXR step things up a few notches with their equipment and after watching the many demos of this pedal, there's no doubt in my mind that the MC-404 Wah-Wah won't be anything short of amazing once I receive it.


Here's the video that really sold me, thanks Burgerman666: :Devil


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I currently own a Fulltone, Area 51, Teese, Arteffect and a Crybaby Classic Wah. In my opinion, all these Wahs listed are top-notch and best of the best. Therefore, the contender, the MC-404 will definitely get a workout this weekend and enter in the Battle Royale to see who is truly THE KING of the WAH PEDALS! I will let everyone know what the outcome is! I hope I don't get caught in the crossfire! :roll

Pull out your wallet and place your bet boys! Poker Cat says so!

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/wonder_lick/Cats/pokercat.jpg

[GAT]

Congrats, I love mine.

[Fredward]

I've just ordered mine today as well. Now for the impatient wait for the postman...

[GAT]

Bob Bradshaw told me about the new wah when I was in LA having him look at my rack/board system that he built. He showed me a prototype and I offered to buy it on the spot, but he wouldn't sell it. Then a couple months later I was back in LA and found one at Truetone. Killer wah, I've sold all my other wahs.

[jcbranam]

:JAMCongrats I really enjoy mine. Haven't used the booste function on it but love the ability to go between yellow and red fasel with a quick switch.

[Stratman69]

Thanks for the feedback! Place a vote fellas!

[Release]

I have one too and LOVE IT.

[bandofthieves™]

Not knocking the CAE wah at all,or saying this one is better,but DAMN!! Keeley has had a wah very similar out for at least 5 years..Dual inductors is nothing new,Shit Schaller did it over 30 years ago..Have fun with your new wah.I think Keeley's description as if it was some new invention as well as the price made it less popular..Ya can't reinvent the Rock. Or can you???? ;). Keith

[GAT]

Not knocking the CAE wah at all,or saying this one is better,but DAMN!! Keeley has had a wah very similar out for at least 5 years..Dual inductors is nothing new,Shit Schaller did it over 30 years ago..Have fun with your new wah.I think Keeley's description as if it was some new invention as well as the price made it less popular..Ya can't reinvent the Rock. Or can you???? ;). Keith

I'm sure others have done similar things, but the execution and sound are just spectacular with the CAE!

[Primakurtz]

I am loving mine. Sounds as sweet as the RMC, but more versatile & quieter.

[Release]

Not knocking the CAE wah at all,or saying this one is better,but DAMN!! Keeley has had a wah very similar out for at least 5 years..Dual inductors is nothing new,Shit Schaller did it over 30 years ago..Have fun with your new wah.I think Keeley's description as if it was some new invention as well as the price made it less popular..Ya can't reinvent the Rock. Or can you???? ;). Keith

.... but this one goes to 11.

[Stratman69]

Keep the bets coming guys! Only days away from the fight!

[bandofthieves™]

I'm sure others have done similar things, but the execution and sound are just spectacular with the CAE!

You missed the point..I'm sure someone will do a clip[ of it and make it sound like s***:D ;)

[bandofthieves™]

Keep the bets coming guys! Only days away from the fight!
You are one brave soul:) Testing wahs all at once is like testing perfume or cologne.After a few sniffs they all start to sound the same :D I bet the suspense is killing you..

[bandofthieves™]

.... but this one goes to 11.
:D:D

[bgoez]

Not knocking the CAE wah at all,or saying this one is better,but DAMN!! Keeley has had a wah very similar out for at least 5 years..Dual inductors is nothing new,Shit Schaller did it over 30 years ago..Have fun with your new wah.I think Keeley's description as if it was some new invention as well as the price made it less popular..Ya can't reinvent the Rock. Or can you???? ;). Keith

Teese did didn't he? changed the tensioning mechanism on the pivot pin :Devil
I kid I kid!

[Stratman69]

I believe the MC404 has a different tensioning mechanism compared to the standard Crybaby housings. If you look closely in the Burgerman video while he's holding the Wah, tipping it around in his hands, you can slightly see it. Looks somewhat similar to the Teese mechanism :)

For those that own the MC404, does it have an adjustable rocker tension?

[bgoez]

yep looks very close. the 2 inductor thing is neat but not sure how much I'd use it. those who do, let us know..

[Stratman69]

Anyone know about the tensioning mechanism on the MC404?

So far it looks like there's alotta love for the MC404 in the poll!

Aww, you guys are making me feel all warm and fuzzy inside about my purchase :)

[bandofthieves™]

Anyone know about the tensioning mechanism on the MC404?

So far it looks like there's alotta love for the MC404 in the poll!

Aww, you guys are making me feel all warm and fuzzy inside about my purchase :)
I can tell you this,Geoffrey Teese did not invent the tension mechanism.Never claimed to have..

[zachman]

I currently switched from a Cry Baby to the CAE Wah. I Like it a lot.

[bgoez]

I can tell you this,Geoffrey Teese did not invent the tension mechanism.Never claimed to have..

Not one wah related thread you don't chime in about good ole G T. it's cool though he makes a neat product. :crazy

[bandofthieves™]

Not one wah related thread you don't chime in about good ole G T. it's cool though he makes a neat product. :crazy
Hey what part of Keeley didn't you understand????:facepalm
Originally Posted by bandofthieves™ http://img.thegearpage.net/board/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=7222319#post7222319)
Not knocking the CAE wah at all,or saying this one is better,but DAMN!! Keeley has had a wah very similar out for at least 5 years..Dual inductors is nothing new,Shit Schaller did it over 30 years ago..Have fun with your new wah.I think Keeley's description as if it was some new invention as well as the price made it less popular..Ya can't reinvent the Rock. Or can you???? ;). Keith

[Jingwah]

I love that wah. Soo versitile

[burnbritney]

i ordered the mc 404 at tonefactor this weekend. between the 10% off and the free international shipping it's priced at half of what i'd pay for it here in germany.
can't go wrong with that. :D

[Turiguiliano]

I got a Wilson. Love it so much.

[xntrick]

it's a great wah pedal, who here has fiddled with the trim pots for the "Q"?..the illustration in the manual isn't very clear

[deeohgee]

Mines in the mail - Burg sold me too!

[Classic09]

Been looking for a new wah recently and the MC-404 seems to fit the bill. Ordered one yesterday and it will hopefully be arriving in the next few days!!

[Burgs]

Crikey, I think I'll send Dunlop an invoice.. :D

[Stratman69]

Wow, lots of love here for the MC404! Never thought I would see that day that people are voting more for a Dunlop Wah rather than the fabled Teese, Area 51 and etc.

[Stratman69]

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq352/Stratman-69/KindergardenCop16.jpg

[Leonardo]

You need to include the Voodoo Lab Wahzoo... ;)

[Stratman69]

Does it sound pretty good? Never tried one. I've seen it before though. Anyone own the BBE Wah-Wah?

I found a killer video of it on Youtube. Sounds extremely good to be honest. Wish I could include it in the KING of the WAH shootout.

[CBeeper]

Another vote for the CAE... I've had them all and the CAE is far and above the best sounding wah I've owned. It's very good clean but absolutely rules with OD. I use the twin Inductors all the time. Works great when switching from a Strat to an LP.

[Stratman69]

Another vote for the CAE... I've had them all and the CAE is far and above the best sounding wah I've owned. It's very good clean but absolutely rules with OD. I use the twin Inductors all the time. Works great when switching from a Strat to an LP.

Nice! I can't wait to get mine!

[Stratman69]

Keep the votes comin' guys!

[xntrick]

i almost bought the byoc wah as it has a great vintage sound but i got some extra cash from a ebay sale so i went with the MC-404:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atNqV3wmgyU

[Stratman69]

Hey guys. I finally got the MC404. Right off the bat I knew it sounded better than all my other Wah's. All of them sound superb though, but I feel the MC404 sounds the best. When I get time, i'll do an in-depth review or perhaps make a blind-test video and post on youtube.

[Seegs]

i ordered the mc 404 at tonefactor this weekend. between the 10% off and the free international shipping it's priced at half of what i'd pay for it here in germany.
can't go wrong with that. :D

I didn't see this offer...is it still in effect or was it just a limited time offer?

They're selling for about 200€ here...

Chow,
Seegs

[pennylink]

I didn't see this offer...is it still in effect or was it just a limited time offer?

They're selling for about 200€ here...

Chow,
Seegs
I looked at the website a few days ago and did not see the offer either. It must have expired :(

[heybanna]

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Never a fan of CAE wah's, even when Bob was making them custom. That clip confirms it. Very vanilla sounding IMO. No offense, but comparing wahs is trying to hit a moving target. It's what you do with it. A guy with awesome wah technique (Terry Kath) can make a Crybaby sound like a million bucks, and a guy rocking a wah mindlessly can make the best wah sound like crap.

Area 51-

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[lv]

cae: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8439986

[vdoochild7]

I love mine. It's the ultimate crybaby inspired wah! I tend to use the cae/mxr line booster at unity gain. It helps create a smooth and dynamic wah sound with both the yellow and the red fasel. It also adds a bit of shimmer and sparkle to the tone. I love it. There has to be a way to mod it to use the line booster without the wah.

[ecaace]

- Fuzz friendly technology

It has no such thing on the CAE. I use mine after a fulltone 70 but in front its pointless. But a simple mod can take care of it and $45. I also wish there was a mod to use the booster by itself.

[rossta1]

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it's a great wah pedal, who here has fiddled with the trim pots for the "Q"?..the illustration in the manual isn't very clear


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I've had mine for months and love it - despite the fact that I cannot for the life of me figure out how to adjust those damn pots!!! Any help from anyone in the know???

[burnbritney]

I didn't see this offer...is it still in effect or was it just a limited time offer?

They're selling for about 200€ here...

Chow,
Seegs

Hey Seegs,

hope you're keeping well! That offer was only for the Black Friday Sale so it expired in the meantime. I paid 105€ for it in total. Awesome deal on a great wah. It's sitting in customs in Frankfurt at the moment tho. Really looking forward to it.

Sign up to Tonefactor's mailing list so you don't miss the sale next year!

[forum_crawler]

How does the MC-404 compare to the 535Q wah? on the same fasel settings?

I believe the 535 has the red fasel inductor, and it also has a volume boost (not as good), but I wonder if the two wahs sound similar on the same fasel, and Q settings...

[xntrick]

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it's a great wah pedal, who here has fiddled with the trim pots for the "Q"?..the illustration in the manual isn't very clear


I've had mine for months and love it - despite the fact that I cannot for the life of me figure out how to adjust those damn pots!!! Any help from anyone in the know???


i guess you remove the little globs of glue and simply adjust with a small screwdriver but i have yet to try that yet

[4styx]

Any soundclips with the trimpots tweeked?

[nest]

Is it true hardwire bypass?

[Stratman69]

Yes it's true bypass and YES it does work with fuzzes.

It works the same with fuzzes as my 2008 Teese Picture Wah or Area 51 with Fuzz Buffer works.

[Stratman69]

I havn't bothered tweaking the trimpots yet. It sounds very good the way it is right out of the box.

[rh]

I'd be very interested in the CAE if I hadn't found and bought the Humphrey Audio Mods Dunlop GC5-95 Audiophile Wah.

http://www.haudiomods.webs.com/index.html

...still might check a CAE out, particularly for the price. :)

[Stratman69]

The MC404 Wah is definitely worth every penny. It's something you should not turn your nose up at just because it's labeled Dunlop. However, everyone ears are different in terms of what particular sound satisfies the most.

Believe me, I own all the major Wahs and without a doubt all of them sounds kickass. It's just that the MC404 actually suits my taste the most.

It kinda sucks now that I have all these Wah-Wahs sitting around and only one of them gets the most attention. :(

But heck, each one of them has a different voice so I can use whichever one I need for different applications or setups.

[Stratman69]

I got an early RMC1 Wah recently. It sounds great but very mid-rangey. It's suppose to sound like that but I feel the MC404 still beats it. To my ears anyways.

The MC404 is the most clearest and pronounced Wah i've heard yet. Very toight like a toiga. :)

[lv]

Any soundclips with the trimpots tweeked?

this has both Q trim pots at almost max: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8439986 0-1:15 is the red inductor, after that is the amber one.

[PUMPHOUSE]

Maybe a stupid question but, does the CAE have IC's in it? Is it digital?

[americananalog]

Maybe a stupid question but, does the CAE have IC's in it? Is it digital?
Yes
No

[thezeng]

hey guys,
I have had an RMC 3 for a long time now, and I love the tone of it, but sometimes i can't dial in what I want as I use different guitars.
The problem is then unscrewing the back plate and blah blah blah.
Do you think I should just pull the trigger on this instead?

[xntrick]

i don't know why they advertise about the adjustable Q..trying to get the goop off the trim pots is damn near impossible

[Classic09]

I have had my MC-404 for a couple of weeks now and can firmly say that it is the one staying on my board.

A couple of points to note:

1. The Picture wah has the best overall tone for vintage sounds
2. The MC-404 is the most versatile and can cop most sounds you can remember or hear in your head.
3. LP into the MC-404 set to RED fasel gets you Eric Clapton in SPADES!

If you want versatility and great sound, the MC-404 is the way to go.

[bseamus]

Mine arrives in the mail today.

[Stratman69]

Mine arrives in the mail today.

Let me know what you think of it!

[espinete]

How does the MC-404 compare to the 535Q wah? on the same fasel settings?

I believe the 535 has the red fasel inductor, and it also has a volume boost (not as good), but I wonder if the two wahs sound similar on the same fasel, and Q settings...

i've owned a 535q wah one year ago.nice one and very versatile but i compared it to a vox 847 and the vox sounded much more natural to my ears.i was planing to mod my v847 with the whipple kit(handmade low signal whipple inductor,icar 100k,dpdt for t.bypass,resistors...)but now i see the cae wah,and i'm thinkin' maybe i find same issue as 535q dunlop pedal..anyone owned both 535q and cae wahs??
thank you in advance

[Stratman69]

The MC404 is more modern (obviously) but with a fine dose of vintage tone, rather than just a pure vintage-tone take like most boutique Wahs out there today.

I really dig it this way. You can get your Hendrix on as well as Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains and stuff.

Don't be fooled by Dunlop folks, they did a superb job in voicing this Wah! This is coming from a dude who owns, Fulltone, RMC, Area 51 and etc..

Basically, you get a lot more variety just on stock setting rather than just only having the "vintage" tone. I haven't even bothered toying with the Q-Trims, no need to.

I absolutely love the yellow Fasel in it. It's very funky with lots of mojo in it. I also dig the red fasel as well.

The red Fasel in the CAE is voiced a little deeper (but in a good way) than the red Fasel's they have in the newer Crybaby pedals such as the 'Classic' and etc. I guess they decided to do this so there's a real noticeable difference when switching inductors to the untrained ear.

Also, so it's like having 2 effects in one pedal.

It has super-bright LEDS too. The damn things light up my room like Christmas. I love this about the CAE. Most Wahs don't have LEDs rather than have a LED for every setting that is kicked on/off. I know exactly what's going on and have total control with my feet. No bending over if I need to change something on the Wah.

I love all my Wah pedals, but this one is probably my favorite.

I know it's Dunlop and yada, yada. I've always shied away from them in the past but look at me now!

If you don't know if it's right for you or not then just order one. If you don't like it then simply return it. Or try one out at your music store. I'm sure Guitar Center carries them.

[zachman]

The MC404 is more modern (obviously) but with a fine dose of vintage tone, rather than just a pure vintage-tone take like most boutique Wahs out there today.

I really dig it this way. You can get your Hendrix on as well as Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains and stuff.

Don't be fooled by Dunlop folks, they did a superb job in voicing this Wah! This is coming from a dude who owns, Fulltone, RMC, Area 51 and etc..

Basically, you get a lot more variety just on stock setting rather than just only having the "vintage" tone. I haven't even bothered toying with the Q-Trims, no need to.

I absolutely love the yellow Fasel in it. It's very funky with lots of mojo in it. I also dig the red fasel as well.

The red Fasel in the CAE is voiced a little deeper (but in a good way) than the red Fasel's they have in the newer Crybaby pedals such as the 'Classic' and etc. I guess they decided to do this so there's a real noticeable difference when switching inductors to the untrained ear.

Also, so it's like having 2 effects in one pedal.

It has super-bright LEDS too. The damn things light up my room like Christmas. I love this about the CAE. Most Wahs don't have LEDs rather than have a LED for every setting that is kicked on/off. I know exactly what's going on and have total control with my feet. No bending over if I need to change something on the Wah.

I love all my Wah pedals, but this one is probably my favorite.

I know it's Dunlop and yada, yada. I've always shied away from them in the past but look at me now!

If you don't know if it's right for you or not then just order one. If you don't like it then simply return it. Or try one out at your music store. I'm sure Guitar Center carries them.

That's because Dunlop didn't voice this wah-- Bob Bradshaw did. Dunlop just manufacture it to his design specs. ;)

[Stratman69]

True.

[madaxeman]

Wow! I'm sold. Stratman69 I owe both you and Burgerman666 a beer and many thanks. I've been researching wahs going on 4 weeks now and have never been more frustrated, because most of the clips or demo vids I saw were useless. Mostly mindless whacka whacka whacka through a clean amp. I had decided on a Teese Wizard Wah just because I thought it would best suit my playing and tone based on what I read, not any decent clips I could find. The Bugerman666 video hands down convinced me this is exactly what I'm looking for. I think I need on of the Fuzz pedals also!:D :beer

[espinete]

i've owned a 535q wah one year ago.nice one and very versatile but i compared it to a vox 847 and the vox sounded much more natural to my ears.i was planing to mod my v847 with the whipple kit(handmade low signal whipple inductor,icar 100k,dpdt for t.bypass,resistors...)but now i see the cae wah,and i'm thinkin' maybe i find same issue as 535q dunlop pedal..anyone owned both 535q and cae wahs??
thank you in advance

I was meaning that 535q sounds a bit digital to me compared to the v847.and i'm a bit worried in that sense about CAE wah.Are my worries justified?I can´t try the dunlop/cae wah in a shop around my area.THANKS

[Stratman69]

I believe the CAE is all analog. No digital-ness. The board looks like it belongs in a computer, but it's still analog.

It does use IC chips, but so does the newer Teese Wah's.

The CAE uses surface mount resistors/capacitors as well, rather than the traditional carbon film resistors and etc.

From what i've heard and read, surface-mount resistors/capacitors provide a super clean sound/signal flow. I can definitely tell with the CAE.

[Stratman69]

Hey Espinete,

The 535q is just voiced different than the V847.

Totally different layout, parts, inductors and etc. So of course you'll notice a difference.

No Wah pedal sounds the same, it's all a matter of taste and preference. Just like guitars.

[geetarman]

Anybody got gut pics if the CAE I'm curious as to what the board and component layout look like.

[Stratman69]

Here's a blurry gut pic:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq352/Stratman-69/Photoon2009-12-22at17282.jpg

[Stratman69]

The CAE also has an adjustable rocker tension as well. It comes with the tool to adjust it also.

[bandofthieves™]

I believe the CAE is all analog. No digital-ness. The board looks like it belongs in a computer, but it's still analog.

It does use IC chips, but so does the newer Teese Wah's.

The CAE uses surface mount resistors/capacitors as well, rather than the traditional carbon film resistors and etc.

From what i've heard and read, surface-mount resistors/capacitors provide a super clean sound/signal flow. I can definitely tell with the CAE.
RMC has no IC chips in their wahs.They do have an op amp in the buffer circuit.

[bandofthieves™]

One of my newer 535q's
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL880/3449618/17122014/380007207.jpg

[Stratman69]

RMC has no IC chips in their wahs.They do have an op amp in the buffer circuit.

bleh, almost the same thing. doesnt matter anyways. if you like the sound then thats all that matters. you seem to be against the CAE eh?

[Scott Auld]

bleh, almost the same thing. doesnt matter anyways. if you like the sound then thats all that matters. you seem to be against the CAE eh?


He's just giving you his opinion on what tone he likes and doesn't like.

It's not "almost the same thing." I wouldn't want all that PCB in something I'm stepping on all the time.

[Seegs]

ribbon connectors and board mounted jacks and kick switches...hmmmm... I'll pass for awhile until reliability reports are in after a year or two of road use...

Chow,
Seegs

[Scott Auld]

It's not like Bradshaw hasn't earned his excellent reputation; he has. There is no question it must sound amazing.

On the other hand, Dunlop's reissues do not have that same rep of 100% durability.

PCB-mounted jacks get a bad rep on TGP and people are understandably leery of them sometimes; and we are a conservative lot when it comes to gear.

The Dunlop/CAE could become one of our favorite wahs of all time, but it will take ... time.

[Scott Auld]

Another thought ... You started this thread with "I just ordered the CAE..." and then made it into a Poll.

It's not always a good idea to start your "New pedal day" thread witha poll. You WILL get far fewer "Congrats!" posts and more people expressing an actual opinion, which you may not like.

If you just wanted "Cool Story, Bro" posts, a poll is not the way to get it.

[Stratman69]

Another thought ... You started this thread with "I just ordered the CAE..." and then made it into a Poll.

It's not always a good idea to start your "New pedal day" thread witha poll. You WILL get far fewer "Congrats!" posts and more people expressing an actual opinion, which you may not like.

If you just wanted "Cool Story, Bro" posts, a poll is not the way to get it.

Hmm, I seemed to receive many congrats on getting a CAE, so you're wrong about that. Also, I started the poll to see what people thought is the better Wah out of the bunch. My feelings were towards the CAE, which to my ears it is, and I wanted people to vote and see what theirs was.

I never thought making a poll would hurt anyones feelings. It's there for a reason, so I used it.

[Stratman69]

It's not like Bradshaw hasn't earned his excellent reputation; he has. There is no question it must sound amazing.

On the other hand, Dunlop's reissues do not have that same rep of 100% durability.

PCB-mounted jacks get a bad rep on TGP and people are understandably leery of them sometimes; and we are a conservative lot when it comes to gear.

The Dunlop/CAE could become one of our favorite wahs of all time, but it will take ... time.

If it doesn't have a Halo Inductor, Tropical Fish Capacitors, Switchcraft jacks, $300+ price tag and whatever else, then it's obviously no where near alot of peoples standards around here.

You nailed the whole "conservative" part without a doubt.

[Scott Auld]

Please tell me where I can get the tropical fish caps, they would be sweet in my handwired tweed.

[Stratman69]

The NOS tropi caps are just polyester caps with a colored/heatshrunk plastic covering.

[Stratman69]

Here's the latest video for the CAE Wah performed by Bdeursch (youtube). This will give you guys an idea of what this pedal sounds like in a more modern situation.

Abd7Bk1ech0

[Stratman69]

ribbon connectors and board mounted jacks and kick switches...hmmmm... I'll pass for awhile until reliability reports are in after a year or two of road use...

Chow,
Seegs

The Klon uses ribbon connectors if i'm correct?

You don't have to kick the switches either. They'll last alot longer :rimshot

[Wolf Child]

So who's got the best price on these bad dogs? $169 is pretty standard but someones got to have a 10% off coupon code.

That's right, I said coupon code. For every dollar I save on gear, I have an extra dollar to buy more gear.

[Stratman69]

$142.95 on eBay. Not a bad price at all. I paid $170 for mine. Still fair for a great Wah. ;)

[bobbymack]

Man I am really diggin' mine...lovely wife got me one for Christmas. Great tones, comfortable crybaby like sweep...and by far the quietest wah I've ever been around.

Big thumbs up.

[Wolf Child]

I ordered one today with the Tunnelvisionmusic/TGP 10% discount found in the Manufacturers and Retailers Emporium.

[Stratman69]

Man I am really diggin' mine...lovely wife got me one for Christmas. Great tones, comfortable crybaby like sweep...and by far the quietest wah I've ever been around.

Big thumbs up.

Very quiet indeed. If it wasn't for those ufo-like leds then I couldnt even tell if it's on or not, lol.

And it doesn't have those low-end farts/harsh spots around the 12th fret either, at least in my case anyways, like my other wahs do. Except for maybe the Fulltone Clyde.

[xntrick]

i had some time to compare the CAE to a modded crybaby with red fasel..the CAE had a wider sweep but it was also very muddy with the low strings when rocked back, it was even more noticeable when playing with distortion, the crybaby even had more of a vocal quality..would adjusting the "Q" setting help with the muddy sound?

[radiohead]

been contemplating on getting the CAE after trying it out a while back.. seeing those vids reminded how good that wah is.. i think i'll pick it up tomorrow.

[bryan k]

Mine arrived last night,....i must say im VERY impressed. Ive used Vox, Morley and Crybaby (535Q).....and the CAE is now my favorite.

I didnt adjust the Q settings, and i feel its not necessary. It sounds damn sweet right out of the box. To get the glue off the Q trim pots (some people say they have troubles), i simply used a small exacto-razor knife and slowly scrapped it off with no problems at all.

The Fasel tones -

RED- nails that deep vocal Sariani tone (think "Souls of distortion"). Its very pukey and growls........says 'Whhhhhoooaaahhhp". Way cool for lower strings, but not ideal for fast solo shreading when you get up to the upper registers and high B or E strings.

Yellow- oposite of the RED fasel. Its very nasal, whiney and great for upper string stuff........says....Whhhaaaaaahkkk"

Overall , i cant decide which fasel i like best, they both serve thier parts well. To compare the wah tones and its sounds....the RED fasel is very Satriani "Souls of Distortion" sounding......and the Yellow is very Stev Vai "Tender Surrender" (think of the end of the song where it gets all quiet and he starts talking with his wah)

This wah is freakin AWESOME...........

[Waxhead]

ok - so I bought a MC-404 and have been testing it for 2 weeks and comparing it to my long used Bad Horsie 2.

the MC-404 is great and all IMO and definitely the best Crybaby ever made but I still prefer the Bad Horsie 2 thanks.

the BH2 step on, step off, function simply cannot be beat.
You got instant wah and returns to normal amp tone soon as you lift your foot.
Makes it much faster & easier to use - no tap dancing required.
Plus it sounds smoother/better IMO, has a bigger sweep and is equally versatile.
Both wahs cover the same general tones but BH2 does them all better IMO.
Definitely smoother, not as squealy and equally strong.
BH2 is buffered but doesn't tone suck at all.
Just a better wah all-round IMO.

I'm ready to adjust the Q pots for the red inductor. Wanna make it less squealy.
Anyone know which direction I should adjust it ???

[deeohgee]

I'm ready to adjust the Q pots for the red inductor. Wanna make it less squealy.
Anyone know which direction I should adjust it ???

CCW, I just did that with the Yellow Q and just a tiny shift did it.

[Waxhead]

CCW, I just did that with the Yellow Q and just a tiny shift did it.

yeah - which direction ?
I'm happy with the yellow side. I wanna adjust the red Q pot.
What does it do to the tone if you go left or right.
What direction will give me a bit less squeally at high end on the red one ????

[jb1911]

CCW=anti-clockwise.

[radiohead]

the BH2 step on, step off, function simply cannot be beat.
You got instant wah and returns to normal amp tone soon as you lift your foot.
Makes it much faster & easier to use - no tap dancing required.

that is a great feature! what other wahs have that? if that was true bypass.. i'd seriously consider checkin that out. i've only had the cae wah for a couple of days, and i've taken it to practice for the first time last night.. and i must say i love the red fasel. i wish the boost was independent though.

[mahler]

I just got the CAE, brilliant! More to come later

[zachman]

I just got the CAE, brilliant! More to come later

Congrats... I couldn't agree more. I like mine too.

[radiohead]

the BH2 step on, step off, function simply cannot be beat.
You got instant wah and returns to normal amp tone soon as you lift your foot.
Makes it much faster & easier to use - no tap dancing required.

thinking about that feature again.. just realized that it's two sided.. yes it is a cool feature to have an auto off, but it limits a big feature that classic wahs have.. the ability to leave it in a certain position on the sweep to get the varying choked sound.

[espinete]

one of my worries was it could sound a bit "digital".it's not.i like yellow fasel position,very usable booster and it sounds very natural for me compared to 535q,fulltone clyde and vox v847.no brittle,nice eq range.

[moonblack]

what the "q" for?