New GFS Pedals

[Will Chen]

...are up: http://store.guitarfetish.com/gfsfootpedals.html

the majority are priced around $50 and are modified Biyang pedals made in China. I couldn't resist and ordered one of their Bluesdrives. Looks like they already signed up Earl Slick as an endorsee.

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2084_23877983

[cj_wattage]

A buddy pointed these out to me yesterday. I might get one of the tuners just for fun.

Hadn't been to the GFS site in a while till yesterday. I see they're also into the "high-end mojo" cable market now, too. Cool.

[BeauZooka]

Nice. The Fat Tube Classic looks interesting with the 6ax7 tube. And an analog delay pedal too!

[Squigglefunk]

digital delay

[shadco]

Wow

Jay is a busy fellow isn't he?

[Lublin]

Wow

Jay is a busy fellow isn't he?
Good for him. Always answers my emails and fairly quickly, too. I hope he does well.

[SomniferousEyes]

GFS customer support is ace. Bought a used pickup that I had questions on that were promptly answered. And bought a new pickup direct and it was shipped quickly and their communication was top-notch.

[3 Mile Stone]

They look a little like the Byang stuff on eBay. Is he importing maybe, not that I have a problem with that, just asking y'all.

[hippiebob]

They look a little like the Byang stuff on eBay. Is he importing maybe, not that I have a problem with that, just asking y'all.

I think most if not all of his products are imported. I know his pickups are made in China.

[Will Chen]

Yes, they are modified Biyang as I stated in my original post. All GFS stuff is imported. Per Jay's posts on another forum he and his crew round up pedals from all the OEM manufacturers and choose Biyang as they we're the closest to what they we looking for tonally at the given price point. The pedals are reportedly modded, but to what degree is unknown. The aforementioned Biyang Bluesdrive doesn't have the voicing switch that the GFS version does...

[hippiebob]

Still for a true bypass pedal, you can't beat it for the price.

[Lublin]

I wish they had a 'verb pedal. That's all I really need at the moment.

[enocaster]

Whoa. Might have to get that $36 tuner.

[Will Chen]

Just got the shipment notice. Looks like I'll have it on Monday...

[marvelboy_04]

the tube od and tuner looks great

[Vintage55]

I'm going to go for a tuner and the delay tomorrow...will be here early next week.

[Steven]

They are a bit to big IMO - ny board is so cramped that I tend to stay away from bigger pedals. But that tuner looks mighty nice.

[edwarddavis]

great place to get stuff

[Jim Moulton]

The Biyang pedal is a good product, I love their chrome finish, I corresponded with one of their reps a few years ago about a pedal of theirs.
Jim

[Red_Strat]

I'm thinking of getting the tuner. The question is.. how accurate are they?

[Dissentience]

I'm thinking of getting the tuner. The question is.. how accurate are they?
I was wondering this as well. I might get one just to try it out

[Red_Strat]

The GFS tuner sort of reminds me of Korg's Pitchblack. I hope it's at least close to the Pitctblack's accuracy.

Dissentience, there might be an accuracy (rating?) on the box when you get one. Please post it if you ever DO get the tuner. Thanks!

[BBender]

Someone take one for the team and grab that Tuner. I'm wondering if it is any good too.

[SeeMoore]

The GFS tuner sort of reminds me of Korg's Pitchblack. I hope it's at least close to the Pitctblack's accuracy.

Dissentience, there might be an accuracy (rating?) on the box when you get one. Please post it if you ever DO get the tuner. Thanks!

+/- 1 cent

[stoneattic]

All of the other GFS pedals are touting their true bypass(ness), but I don't see in the description of the tuner if it's true bypass or not. I shot an email to GFS inquiring. He's usually pretty quick with responses. But the descriptions on the site aren't always accurate, like the delay was originally described as accurate, but that has been fixed.

If it's true bypass and +/- 1 cent like the Pitchblack I'm all over it.

[thefyn]

$6 shipping is great too. I just got the tuner.

[3 Mile Stone]

Yes, they are modified Biyang as I stated in my original post. All GFS stuff is imported. Per Jay's posts on another forum he and his crew round up pedals from all the OEM manufacturers and choose Biyang as they we're the closest to what they we looking for tonally at the given price point. The pedals are reportedly modded, but to what degree is unknown. The aforementioned Biyang Bluesdrive doesn't have the voicing switch that the GFS version does...


:o

It was late, I was sleepy. Didn't read well. So they throw some mods on 'em. That is cool. GFS has a real solid niche offering great products for low diniro. I'm at work and can't go there, because it has the word "fetish" in it. Do they make an octave pedal???

[thedroid]

Which one sounds like a Klon?






I keed.

[stoneattic]

I'm at work and can't go there, because it has the word "fetish" in it.

For some reason I get blocked at work going to:
http://www.guitarfetish.com (http://www.guitarfetish.com/)
but I can go to :
http://store.guitarfetish.com (http://store.guitarfetish.com/)

[stoneattic]

$6 shipping is great too. I just got the tuner.

Is it true bypass?

[thefyn]

Is it true bypass?

True bypass means nothing to me these days. My planet waves tuner is true bypass. But when I engage it I get the sound of a dial up computer because it does not like my one spot power source :bitch

[travisvwright]

Is that I just got the tuner or I just ordered the tuner? TTT

[linus™]

For some reason I get blocked at work going to:
http://www.guitarfetish.com (http://www.guitarfetish.com/)
but I can go to :
http://store.guitarfetish.com (http://store.guitarfetish.com/)

http://store.guitarfetish.com (http://store.guitarfetish.com/) is hosted by Yahoo.

[78deluxe]

True bypass means nothing to me these days. My planet waves tuner is true bypass. But when I engage it I get the sound of a dial up computer because it does not like my one spot power source :bitch
I doubt True Bypass has anything to do with your one spot problems.

[stoneattic]

Jay from GFS responded to my email regarding the tuner being true bypass with a "Yeah absolutely" :)

[hb_nz]

I wish they had a 'verb pedal. That's all I really need at the moment.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_c55dzyHrCtA/SvZonXlCcjI/AAAAAAAAAGA/wSe-vdyoYdM/s1600-h/biyang-babyboom_rv-10_001.jpg

Dunno what it's like but it's made by the same company.

[daveg777]

I owned a Biyang OD-8, the one that you can swap out the Op-Amp chip. It really was a pretty decent sounding OD, better than some of the booteek pedals I have owned. For realz and stuff....


Dave

[HeartfeltDawn]

I won an Ebay auction for the Biyang chorus today, a mere 26 GBP. I'll order the GFS version soon just to compare them.

[3 Mile Stone]

Bummer no Octave.

[6Tones]

They are not going to win any fans with those sound clip demos on their site..ack

[thefyn]

I doubt True Bypass has anything to do with your one spot problems.

That is not my point. My point is just because it states it is true bypass, does not make or break a pedal.

It may physically be true bypass, but the interaction of the LED's with my power source negates the noise avoidance the true bypass offers when disengaged.

[stoneattic]

That is not my point. My point is just because it states it is true bypass, does not make or break a pedal.

It is to some, and to others it may not be make or break, but may be a significant deciding factor.

[ganon]

I just ordered the tuner and fat tube driven distortion. Had to give them a try for the price. Will report when they come in.

[Squigglefunk]

Jay from GFS responded to my email regarding the tuner being true bypass with a "Yeah absolutely" :)

there's two outputs, the "mute" one might be TB but I doubt the other is.

[travisvwright]

there's two outputs, the "mute" one might be TB but I doubt the other is.I dont' understand wanting your tuning to be heard by everyone. So I'm fine with that.

[stoneattic]

True bypass means nothing to me these days. My planet waves tuner is true bypass. But when I engage it I get the sound of a dial up computer because it does not like my one spot power source :bitch

Not to :horse

but it appears that the Planet Waves tuner isn't completely true bypass:

http://www.stinkfoot.se/andreas/diy/articles/tuners2.htm

Quoting from Andreas' link above:

"So in the end, the Planet Waves tuner is sort of true bypass - the switch does disconnect the tuner circuit from the main signal path, but there's still a path from hot to ground (680Kohm or so) present in the bypass line. So I wouldn't want to call the Planet Waves tuner true bypass. Sorry..."

Either way, it's an interesting read.

[travisvwright]

Anyone actually have one of these yet?

[Will Chen]

My Bluesdrive looks like it will be here on Monday...

[travisvwright]

My Bluesdrive looks like it will be here on Monday...Well if you don't first I'll bump this then.

[Gary Ladd]

Which one has the Landgraff & CJOD mods? :wave

[travisvwright]

If you promise to do something you must do it,
Though you might rue it, You must stick to it,
And once you give your word of honor don't erase it,
Do not replace it, That woudl just discrace it,

For a promise is a promise and that promise that you make is a promise you don't break.



Sorry got a little carried away. Hey Will what do you think. (yes I know it's only noon)

[Will Chen]

If you promise to do something you must do it,
Though you might rue it, You must stick to it,
And once you give your word of honor don't erase it,
Do not replace it, That woudl just discrace it,

For a promise is a promise and that promise that you make is a promise you don't break.



Sorry got a little carried away. Hey Will what do you think. (yes I know it's only noon)

I'm on central time so only 11 here. UPS usually doesn't make it until later in the day anyway. Probably won't be able to post any news until later this evening after I've giving it a good workout...

[mike@nortoncable.com]

I like how the Delay says Pure analog on it.. :)
but its digital???

For $60 its probably pretty good..

The bigger question is, what are these clones of?

[Will Chen]

I like how the Delay says Pure analog on it.. :)
but its digital???

For $60 its probably pretty good..

The bigger question is, what are these clones of?

The only one which I believe is a clone (to some degree, actual circuit hasn't been viewed) is:

GFS Grenie = Biyang OD-8 X-Drive (which comes with 3 different chips) = TS9/808

This Biyang pedal is also sold as the Collins Mr. Wicked, Derax OD-7 3-Mode Overdrive, Eagletone The Crusher, Fame OD-10 Driver per www.effectsdatabase.com.

The other GFS pedals are all variations on the Biyang pedals (using the OD-8 case with three controls and a 3-way toggle) with the exception of the Bluesdrive which has 2 controls and 3-way toggle (no Biyang effect seems to have this case).

[mike@nortoncable.com]

The only one which I believe is a clone (to some degree, actual circuit hasn't been viewed) is:

GFS Grenie = Biyang OD-8 X-Drive (which comes with 3 different chips) = TS9/808


Thats kind of a Given these days! if its an overdrive and its lime green
with 3 knobs or it has Green in the name its some sort of Tubescreamer variant. Not suprising as everybody has their take on the TS808 and TS9, after mods by technicality its not a Tubescreamer anymore merely in the same family, fine with me- I bet it sounds great..

[cugel]

clearly gfs is run by a smart guy

[dbx]

They look a little like the Byang stuff on eBay...

Very good eye...I noted this same observation about the new Blues Pearl line, esp the delay...

:hide

[Will Chen]

Very suspect, I think I think someone is trying to pull a fast one here. I guess it's totally possible that they order the cases prepainted (notice curved lower section, the screw locations, and the outline arrow input and solid arrow output which match the Biyang design) from Biyang or even some type of modified OEM build.

http://www.bluespearlamps.com/images/P/BP%20400.jpg

[Will Chen]

BTW, here's a gut shot of the the Biyang OTD-100 which to some degree is the GFS Fat Tube.

http://www.standardvalue.com.sg/2.jpg

[scolfax]

Very suspect, I think I think someone is trying to pull a fast one here.

What "fast one"? The Guitarfetish guy has already said that these are OEM'd for him by Biyang.

[travisvwright]

What "fast one"? The Guitarfetish guy has already said that these are OEM'd for him by Biyang.The "fast one" was an accusation of Blues Pearl not GFS, as far as i can tell. I admittedly don't know anything about Blues Pearl.

[Will Chen]

What "fast one"? The Guitarfetish guy has already said that these are OEM'd for him by Biyang.

The "fast one" was an accusation of Blues Pearl not GFS, as far as i can tell. I admittedly don't know anything about Blues Pearl.

In my initial post which started this thread I acknowledged the GFS pedals being moded Biyang designs and Jay has priced them competitively with the Biyang pedals which you can buy on eBay or a handful of online retailers. What is suspect is the The Blues Pearl Blue Screamer which looks suspiciously similar and is selling for $239...

[scolfax]

Aaaaaaaaaah. Got it.

[linus™]

well i got the delay. built very nice. sounds pretty good, it is no dmm though. not all that warm. the repeats degrade, and if you have the 'repeats' turned obnoxiously up the furthest out ones sound terribly lofi.
definitely right for the price.. i think i am going to rehouse it in a large box with an a Dano coolcat OD & some sort of mod for my gear challenged friend. my m13 has all the delay i need at the moment.

i recorded a clip but youtube hates me tonight.

[bannahz]

has anyone tried the tuner yet? i really want to get this by my retreat before christmas

[travisvwright]

Linus please retry and post a link.

[Will Chen]

Put about an hour in on the Bluesdrive last night and my initial results are thumbs up fellas.

The gain throw is great and the pedal has enough output that with the gain almost all the way down you can get an almost clean boost flavored with the three position voicing. The one page manual (more like a quick start sheet) included several sample settings mentioned Fender amps and that's exactly what I was thinking once I heard the pedal.

In the thin mode, the pedal is very tubscreamer-esque but at 1/2 gain you are at the max gain setting of a TS9. In both fat and rotund both the gain and low end (and seemingly mids but it might just be an aural illusion) are revoiced accordingly. I was a bit worried regarding the lack of a traditional tone control but the high end is voiced perfectly for my tastes though I can see some saying the pedal is a touch dark. Seemed to prefer single coils especially on the rotund setting where humbuckers (especially the neck) starting getting a bit muddy but that's what the thin setting is for. With hot pickups and the gain at 2 o'clock or more the pedal starts to compress in a very musical and amp like manner. Very cool. I'm going to gig it Thursday night and will have clips and a full review over at my site hopefully on Monday.

[ultrevex]

Put about an hour in on the Bluesdrive last night and my initial results are thumbs up fellas.

The gain throw is great and the pedal has enough output that with the gain almost all the way down you can get an almost clean boost flavored with the three position voicing. The one page manual (more like a quick start sheet) included several sample settings mentioned Fender amps and that's exactly what I was thinking once I heard the pedal.

In the thin mode, the pedal is very tubscreamer-esque but at 1/2 gain you are at the max gain setting of a TS9. In both fat and rotund both the gain and low end (and seemingly mids but it might just be an aural illusion) are revoiced accordingly. I was a bit worried regarding the lack of a traditional tone control but the high end is voiced perfectly for my tastes though I can see some saying the pedal is a touch dark. Seemed to prefer single coils especially on the rotund setting where humbuckers (especially the neck) starting getting a bit muddy but that's what the thin setting is for. With hot pickups and the gain at 2 o'clock or more the pedal starts to compress in a very musical and amp like manner. Very cool. I'm going to gig it Thursday night and will have clips and a full review over at my site hopefully on Monday.

Thanks for the update. So, the pedal will get nearly fully clean with gain low? How compressed is it? I'm really tempted to take a stab at one of the TS styles. I don't LOVE the TS tone but sometimes it's just what is needed, seems risk free enough to gamble $50 on one.

[enocaster]

Anyone get their $36 tuner yet? Is the display always on, or only when engaged? Can you adfust the brightness? Thanks!

[Will Chen]

Thanks for the update. So, the pedal will get nearly fully clean with gain low? How compressed is it? I'm really tempted to take a stab at one of the TS styles. I don't LOVE the TS tone but sometimes it's just what is needed, seems risk free enough to gamble $50 on one.

Yes, with the gain completely down the pedal is silent but notch it up just a touch and the pedal is very clean with some slight coloration (in a good way) based on the tone switch (thin, fat, rotund). With the switch in the thin position, the pedal really sounds very much like a TS9 in the first half of the sweep with similiar compression. Past noon, the pedal gets compressed not unlike a cranked Fender maxing out with nearly double (just guessing, I don't have 2 TS9's to test to be sure) the gain of a stock TS9. The fat and rotund settings sound like they boost the low end before clipping which, as you might expect, result in more compression than the thin setting and a saggy, slightly muddy low end...not unlike a cranked Fender. The pedal's gain throw is wide enough that you can go very subtle if you want or super saturated and compressed if you want.

[travisvwright]

Linus have you had any luck posting that?

[woland]

Nice. The Fat Tube Classic looks interesting with the 6ax7 tube. And an analog delay pedal too!

Maybe somebody can open it and check tube is actually connected ......

[Will Chen]

Maybe somebody can open it and check tube is actually connected ......

Yes, the Biyang circuit which the GFS is based on (or simply is) is a high voltage circuit. The real deal.

http://www.standardvalue.com.sg/2.jpg

[linus™]

Linus have you had any luck posting that?

i sat down last night to record a new one, 5min later.. oh yeah i am recording this.. by then i half of it has the POG on it, me just fooling around.
i'll put something up soon.

though after spending more time with it i am really liking more and more. it is a simple no-frills delay, sounds good, great bypass, no tone suck.. the size & knobs are perfect, pretty easy to change with my foot..
great alternative for when i am feeling overwhelmed by my m13..
for that price? i want another, one for every amp / room.

[travisvwright]

If you haven't figured it out I'm not letting this one die just yet. Anyone have the tuner yet? Or video of the delay.

[hammersig]

I'll be ordering the tuner after Christmas. I'll let you know as soon as I get it travis.

[linus™]

If you haven't figured it out I'm not letting this one die just yet. Anyone have the tuner yet? Or video of the delay.


well, this much was said about it at HC: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showpost.php?p=37814657&postcount=166

[ganon]

I just got the tuner the other day. For the price it is nice. Very bright blue LED. A very good value in my opinion. Seems fairly accurate.

I also bought the Fat Tube Overdrive. Not bad for the price. First, it has a ridiculous amount of gain. I found I had the gain almost completely backed off. Good control over the bass, but the pedal was voiced with way too much treble. I had it backed completely off to be usable for my tastes. You must use the supplied power supply and once it is plugged in the tube is always powered. Therefore, you need to treat it like an amp and unplug it when not is use. They should design it with a power switch directly on the pedal. Big issue I had was that there was a loud popping noise when the pedal was engaged. For the price and what it is, it is not bad. Really had a fat driving crunch for rhythm. The popping noise was the deal breaker for me. Not sure if this was just a defect in mine, but I ended up returning it.

[travisvwright]

I just got the tuner the other day. For the price it is nice. Very bright blue LED. A very good value in my opinion. Seems fairly accurate.Durability? Tank comparisons wanted.

[ultrevex]

Any updates? Anyone picked up the tube screamer style yet?

[Gary Ladd]

I'm waiting for the holy grail to be made in some overseas sweatshop so I don't have to over-pay some 'MeriKan to get...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc117/Gary_McClurg/talentbooster1.jpg

[funkmaster]

I'm waiting for the holy grail to be made in some overseas sweatshop so I don't have to over-pay some 'MeriKan to get...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc117/Gary_McClurg/talentbooster1.jpg

Hey! New Christmas stocking stuffer for some of my friends! :rotflmao

[BeauZooka]

bump. any more reports on these pedals?

[DavidLopezJr]

Anybody order cables from here?

[scolfax]

Anybody order cables from here?

I bought two pairs of cables from GFS. The braided ones and the monster-looking ones. Had no problems with either for the past couple of months, and they were really inexpensive!

[DavidLopezJr]

I bought two pairs of cables from GFS. The braided ones and the monster-looking ones. Had no problems with either for the past couple of months, and they were really inexpensive!SWEET. I'm ordering some this week.

[Kaji13]

I just got the tuner the other day. For the price it is nice. Very bright blue LED. A very good value in my opinion. Seems fairly accurate.

I also bought the Fat Tube Overdrive. Not bad for the price. First, it has a ridiculous amount of gain. I found I had the gain almost completely backed off. Good control over the bass, but the pedal was voiced with way too much treble. I had it backed completely off to be usable for my tastes. You must use the supplied power supply and once it is plugged in the tube is always powered. Therefore, you need to treat it like an amp and unplug it when not is use. They should design it with a power switch directly on the pedal. Big issue I had was that there was a loud popping noise when the pedal was engaged. For the price and what it is, it is not bad. Really had a fat driving crunch for rhythm. The popping noise was the deal breaker for me. Not sure if this was just a defect in mine, but I ended up returning it.
This perfectly describes my B.K. Butler Tube Driver. Try a lower gain tube, like a 12AU7 or 12AT7, this should give you a much nicer tone.

[hammersig]

I got the tuner. Not sure if it is actually true bypass, as I have not opened it up yet, but I detected no signal loss or variation. As far a durability, I would say it's gonna be as tough as anything else in you standard MXR enclosure. The only concern there would be the battery panel, which is tight and made of thick plastic, but if you leave it on a pedalboard, you should be fine. If you move it around, one would probably about have as much trouble with it as the battery covers on Dunlop wahs.

It seems to be very accurate. Almost too accurate if that makes sense? It tracks very well, and somewhat slowly, so to get the pedal perfectly "in tune," your guitar has to be perfectly in tune. Not necessarily a bad thing, just different from the faster, probably less precise tuners I've been using. My only complaint is that the tracking lights change colors from red to yellow when you are getting close to pitch. The yellow blends very closely to the green pitch indicator, so in darker areas, it may look like you are on pitch when you are actually a little out. However after using it for 2 hours worth of rehearsal last night, I feel that I have gotten used to it already and it is well worth the low price.

[enocaster]

Sweet, I just got my shipping notice. Finally putting together a pedalboard and needed something in pedal form that's cheap but good - I have an ST-122 turbo tuner for home/intonation/acoustic use.

[travisvwright]

hamersig thanks for the update looks like I will be ordering one soon.

[hammersig]

You're welcome dude, I think I'm really gonna like mine.

[cber1517]

Any updates? Anyone picked up the tube screamer style yet?

:bumpbump:munch

[Will Chen]

Sorry guys, I got the Bluesdrive Classic in and have been using it a bunch, even gigged it a few times. I think it sounds very good. It can be a touch dark which depending on your rig may be a plus or a minus. In the fat and rotund modes it sounds saggy reminiscent of a tweed Fender. In my book, good purchase at $49.95. Thinking of picking up one of the other dirtboxes. You can read my full review here (http://www.frugalguitarist.com/Frugal.aspx?Issue=16&Page=GFS%20Bluesdrive%20Classic). And here's a direct link to a demo clip of the pedal:

http://www.frugalguitarist.com/Sounds/Issue%2016/bluesdrive.mp3

[doctorx]

They bumped the price of the tuner five bucks to 39.95

[GMD]

I posted a few clips today on youtube of some of their pedals...I thought they were GREAT.

ROCK ON!

Gearmanndude

[DavidLopezJr]

Okay so I just ordered a bunch of stuff from GFS and everything was great but my 20' ft cable... It seems the plug is too big for my amp's input jack which is switchcraft jack. So I cant play straight in.. I have to play through a pedal to get it to work. Anyone else have problems?

[csills]

im just curious if i can get that tube driver sound from the fat tube classic.

not that i need another dirt pedal.

[Bucksears]

im just curious if i can get that tube driver sound from the fat tube classic.


+1
I'm curious as to how tight (or flabby) the bass is. The higher voltage intrigues me.

[Bart]

Got the tuner today. It's OK. Does it's job as a tuner. Construction pretty much commensurates the price. I've read somewhere that it's supposed to be true bypass. It has a DPDT switch instead of the 3PDT that's usually associated with TBP pedals.
So, is this really TBP then? Could it be using the 'Millenium Bypass'?

[vangit]

I posted a few clips today on youtube of some of their pedals...I thought they were GREAT.

ROCK ON!

Gearmanndude

The dude has spoken!!! Great demos as always. I shot you my phone number, give me a call when you can chat.

[6Tones]

Got the tuner today. It's OK. Does it's job as a tuner. Construction pretty much commensurates the price. I've read somewhere that it's supposed to be true bypass. It has a DPDT switch instead of the 3PDT that's usually associated with TBP pedals.
So, is this really TBP then? Could it be using the 'Millenium Bypass'?
Is it somewhat fast and steady tuning wise?
How clear is the display?

[Bart]

Is it somewhat fast and steady tuning wise?
How clear is the display?

Yeah, it's pretty fast and doesn't dance around. I got it this evening so I haven't seen how visible the display is at direct sunlight. But yeah, it's bright. Especially the LED.

[DavidLopezJr]

Just got a rollar tom bridge and some locking tuners from GFS. All I can say I feel like I'm playing a new guitar.

[linus™]

Just got a rollar tom bridge and some locking tuners from GFS. All I can say I feel like I'm playing a new guitar.

i've read post about people complaining that w/ a roller TOM (usually added to a help a bigsby) you lose sustain compared to the traditional saddles.

glad to hear you like it.

[DavidLopezJr]

They bumped the price of the tuner five bucks to 39.95You know what sucks. I had it at 35$ and then my mom exited firefox and BLAM it was 39!

[Freepressright]

So here's a question:

Since GFS and Biyang both use that stupid 6AX7 tube, does that limit the possibility for subbing a lower gain tube? I took a crappy-sounding Ibanez Tube King that had blazing hot gain even at 2 and made it sound like a nicely shimmering tube amp by adding a JAN Sylvania 12AT7.

Seeing the step-up transformer inside those pedals, what would be the harm in subbing a 12AT7 in place of a 6AX7, realizing that the 12AT7 technically calls for 12 volts?

[vintage66]

Is the Bluesdrive Classic a clone of the Bluesbreaker pedal? If so I might have to give it a whirl. Am I halucinating or did I read that somewhere?

[Will Chen]

So here's a question:

Since GFS and Biyang both use that stupid 6AX7 tube, does that limit the possibility for subbing a lower gain tube? I took a crappy-sounding Ibanez Tube King that had blazing hot gain even at 2 and made it sound like a nicely shimmering tube amp by adding a JAN Sylvania 12AT7.

Seeing the step-up transformer inside those pedals, what would be the harm in subbing a 12AT7 in place of a 6AX7, realizing that the 12AT7 technically calls for 12 volts?

I can't answer your specific question. However, Biyang offers 3 different versions of that pedal 2 including 12AXY tubes. I belive there are some very simple mods (like changing a jumper) to allow the use of some different tubes.

Is the Bluesdrive Classic a clone of the Bluesbreaker pedal? If so I might have to give it a whirl. Am I halucinating or did I read that somewhere?

I don't think so. It's more like a tubsescreamer on steroids with selectable pre OD low end boost.

[DavidLopezJr]

i've read post about people complaining that w/ a roller TOM (usually added to a help a bigsby) you lose sustain compared to the traditional saddles.

glad to hear you like it.

Really? Cause if anything I got a bunch MOAR sustain... guess my stock bridge was that bad.

[funkmaster]

i've read post about people complaining that w/ a roller TOM (usually added to a help a bigsby) you lose sustain compared to the traditional saddles.

glad to hear you like it.

I can see why you'd think that. The les paul was designed for the tune-o-matic bridge with the flat and not roller saddles. It helps for a strong breaking point for the string. This is what helps it sustain. The les paul has a pretty strong string breaking point at the bridge and at the headstock, I didn't notice a real loss of sustain when I added a roller bridge to my paul.

[Freepressright]

I can't answer your specific question. However, Biyang offers 3 different versions of that pedal 2 including 12AXY tubes. I belive there are some very simple mods (like changing a jumper) to allow the use of some different tubes.



Anyone on here know where I can get a version of the Biyang that runs a 12-volt dual triode tube like a 12AX7 or its lower-gain counterparts?

Links to resellers would be appreciated. Thanks!

[tpottery]

OK, first post...
This applies to a few different subjects with GFS:

The "fat tube"
Cables (saw it mentioned earlier, don't know how to quote)
The "mean 90" (probably belongs in pickup area, but still pertinent)

I'll start by saying the green pedal interconnects are no good. Giant, sharp, spear-like end doesn't fit in certain jacks (GFS included). Had to file mine down.

The MEAN 90 is great. Really, very good. Makes my home-built cedar-walnut-maple single-cutaway sound like a hollowbody. I can't fully describe the added depth, it's really a perfecly balanced pickup. HIGHLY recommended. Mines' in the neck.

The Fat Tube. OK, first things first, go here http://www.************es.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4411
Some good info.
I agree wholly with the "harsh" description. It can be, especially through an already harsh amp.
I've done the modifications described (minus the tone stack mod). Big difference. If you have the gumption, go for it. Took me about 2 hours, used parts I had lying around.
If nothing else, move the jumper, and get that 6n2 out of there. It's so easy to get a 12a?7 tube in there, and the tone benefits greatly. I didn't have an issue with gain (it's there) BUT, desired to use one of the tonally-superior JG-12at7's I've collected. The mods do result in increased gain, which is fine, and still sounds musical with a 12ax7, but awesome with the at.
Other than that, the tone mods definitely balance highs/lows, and improve knob-response.
There are also debates about whether or not this circuit actually supplies the required voltages to the tube for genuine overdrive. It can, and does.
An internal transformer supplies the 200+ volt B+ (cant remember my exact readings) One point here that has been missed (once again, don't know how to quote old posts): As the high voltage current requirements of a 12ax7 are very low, a high voltage gain transformer is employed. A great design if you ask me, good job china!

Well, that's it.
take it easy
tyler

[tpottery]

Sorry, can't post links apparently. Just google "BIYANG OTD-100" the link I posted should be the first result.

[linus™]

OK, first post...

I'll start by saying the green pedal interconnects are no good. Giant, sharp, spear-like end doesn't fit in certain jacks (GFS included). Had to file mine down.


sorry to hear that, mine have been great.. fit in all my gear.. tips not weaponized..

here is a tiny URL of the link you posted, GP must have an issue with freest0mpb0xes.org - it neutered the characters on your link just like it does certain 4 letter words.
http://tinyurl.com/ycs67de

(http://www.************es.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4411)

[Bucksears]

OK, first post...

The MEAN 90 is great. Really, very good. Makes my home-built cedar-walnut-maple single-cutaway sound like a hollowbody. I can't fully describe the added depth, it's really a perfecly balanced pickup. HIGHLY recommended. Mines' in the neck.

The Fat Tube. OK, first things first, go here http://www.************es.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4411
Some good info.
I agree wholly with the "harsh" description. It can be, especially through an already harsh amp.
I've done the modifications described (minus the tone stack mod). Big difference. If you have the gumption, go for it. Took me about 2 hours, used parts I had lying around.
If nothing else, move the jumper, and get that 6n2 out of there. It's so easy to get a 12a?7 tube in there, and the tone benefits greatly. I didn't have an issue with gain (it's there) BUT, desired to use one of the tonally-superior JG-12at7's I've collected. The mods do result in increased gain, which is fine, and still sounds musical with a 12ax7, but awesome with the at.
Other than that, the tone mods definitely balance highs/lows, and improve knob-response.
There are also debates about whether or not this circuit actually supplies the required voltages to the tube for genuine overdrive. It can, and does.
An internal transformer supplies the 200+ volt B+ (cant remember my exact readings) One point here that has been missed (once again, don't know how to quote old posts): As the high voltage current requirements of a 12ax7 are very low, a high voltage gain transformer is employed. A great design if you ask me, good job china!

Well, that's it.
take it easy
tyler


Aw, crap. Now I gotta get a Fat Tube and do these mods. Seems like this might be a great one to easily mod for different configs....

[Bucksears]

Just ordered a Fat Tube. I'm more interested in the mod to get less treble than I am to use a 12A?7 tube, but I'm sure I'll do that too. If this could knock the BSIAB II I use for lower/medium gain off my board (I have another dual one for higher gain), so be it.

[rockindillo]

I had to order a new $7 trem arm for a Strat I bought recently, so while I was at it, I blew another $70 or so on a GFS delay and one of their premium leads. (Go figure the logic of that!)

The pedal is pretty good. Sounds very like the cheapo Belcat pedal I was using, but rather more robust - pots and jacks attached to the casing, not just the PCB, and a nice, tough box. That's important since the delay is the last thing thing in the chain before amp and I never felt comfortable hanging a long cable off a jack attached directly to a pedal pcb with no support. The longer delay times (compared to the Belcat) are interesting, but I don't suppose I'll use them much, as I'm mainly a slapback kind of guy. Soundwise, I liked it... the repeats fade and blur quite nicely and it's very useable.

Not sure about the TB status. Jay has always struck me as a pretty straight shooter, so why would he lie about this? To my ears it doesn't seem to hurt the sound any when bypassed.

My main criticism is the size... my board is small - sized to fit in a laptop case - and space is tight. I wish it was Boss pedal sized...

PS: The cable is excellent quality, both mechanically and soundwise and I will definitely get some more next time I place an order with Jay. No jack compatability problems so far...

[isaiah58]

I recently bought their tuner. It's pretty nice looking and has a super bright blue LED...there's no way you can miss that. However, I do think it's a little quirky while tuning, but at least it gets the job done. Definitely worth the buy.

[Soul Man]

Anyone have any recent thoughts or experiences with these:

Bluesdrive?
Greenie?
Liquid Trem?
Retro Verb?