Have you ever wondered what it was like to have lived in the 1800s or so?

[Dr. Tweedbucket]

I bet it was exciting, even moreso than now! Think of all the huge inventions that made life easier! Let's consider the lightbulb and wired electricity in your home! WOW! ... or even indoor plumbing! :eeks Absolutely crazy !! ... ok, maybe that was early 1900s but still, you get the idea! The telegraph, the radio, the railroad system and all the routes heading west were probably pretty insane ideas as well!

Wanna text somebody? ... grab a telegraph and go to town! Wanna go for a cruise? Fire up the horses, and take your guns because you may have to fight some Indians!

It's pretty amazing how fast we've progressed in the last couple centuries! Can you imagine what things will be like in 200 years from now if this Planet survives? I'm thinking the hover craft will make it at least by then :red

Thank you for reading this far.

[Luke]

Toilet paper is a soft paper product (tissue paper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tissue_paper)) used to maintain personal hygiene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_hygiene) after human defecation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defecation) or urination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urination). It can also be used for other purposes such as absorbing spillages. Its origin dates back as far as 1862.

[Flyin' Brian]

During the drive from Ottawa Canada to Santa Rosa CA, I constantly thought of those who did trips like that in wagons. The ones who made it were a hardy and lucky bunch.

[chrisr777]

During the drive from Ottawa Canada to Santa Rosa CA, I constantly thought of those who did trips like that in wagons. The ones who made it were a hardy and lucky bunch.

My great Grandmother came out west from Kentucky in a wagon. She was a tough lady for sure. Used to pretty much hold court in the living room at holiday parties.

On a personal side, no Les Pauls or Strats. Not for me at all.

:nuts

[dsmc80]

All the time. As much as I love technology and all of the marvels of today, there is one quote that I always go back to that I think is profound and true.


As you simplify your life, the laws of the universe will be simpler; solitude will not be solitude, poverty will not be poverty, nor weakness weakness.
Henry David Thoreau (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/h/henrydavid107811.html)

Not that this can't be achieved today, but I think it was easier to live a simpler life then.

[jetsnation]

I bet it was as exciting,

eh, it's like going to Wisconsin.

[Doodad]

I always think of my grandmother who was born the year the plane was invented, remembered vividly first seeing a car or plane and lived long enough to see a man walk on the moon.

We used to live in Leavenworth, KS and the ruts from those wagons coming up from the Missouri River crossing were deep.

[Flyin' Brian]

My great Grandmother came out west from Kentucky in a wagon. She was a tough lady for sure. Used to pretty much hold court in the living room at holiday parties.

On a personal side, no Les Pauls or Strats. Not for me at all.

:nuts

It's hard to imagine what that trip was like.

In 1833 and beyond you could have had a Martin.

[Big Boss Man]

CF Martin started making guitars in the US in 1833. These days most of my playing time is on my HD-28. If I had a couple nice Martins, I could probably deal with all the rest.

[Dr. Tweedbucket]

eh, it's like going to Wisconsin.


Not really, I have this book on Ghost towns throughout America and the stories behind them. It was a rough life back then.... just trying to make a living and survive was brutal. In travel, there were no good ways on a personal basis to communicate up ahead or behind, and the constant chance of getting ambushed by Indians was always a danger. There was a lot of lawlessness going on and what ever organized law there was, probably wasn't very effective. Too, illness and disease wasn't any picnic either.

Still, it's cool of all the milestone inventions that took place! Even a simple thing like the steam engine train, or rubber for tires was an amazing thing.

I hated history back in school, but for some reason it's become much more interesting. :YinYang

[Altanon]

My Grandmother, (born: 1880,) told me a lot about it when I was little. She told me about traveling, by Conestoga Wagon, from Sneedsville, Tennessee to Missouri and on to the Indian Territories. She told me about her Grandfather's Cousin Jefferson, who had been a prominent Political Figure during the War Between the States. She told me how, for nearly the first half of her life, you could buy any substance you wanted, carry any gun you chose and keep all the money you earned. While Gramma was obviously thrilled with things like TV, she was less than pleased to see Freedom and Liberty become a thing of the past.

[Virtual Pariah]

I bet it was exciting, even moreso than now! Think of all the huge inventions that made life easier! Let's consider the lightbulb and wired electricity in your home! WOW! ... or even indoor plumbing! :eeks Absolutely crazy !! ... ok, maybe that was early 1900s but still, you get the idea! The telegraph, the radio, the railroad system and all the routes heading west were probably pretty insane ideas as well!

Wanna text somebody? ... grab a telegraph and go to town! Wanna go for a cruise? Fire up the horses, and take your guns because you may have to fight some Indians!

It's pretty amazing how fast we've progressed in the last couple centuries! Can you imagine what things will be like in 200 years from now if this Planet survives? I'm thinking the hover craft will make it at least by then :red

Thank you for reading this far.

Uhhh. No.

I could not even take the 1970's. BORING!!!

[Amp360]

There used to be a show called 'Frontier House' that was all about that. The best part was 9/10 times one spouce had convinced the family to go on the show and the rest of them were not really into it.

It was amazing.

It was on PBS, so I'm not sure if you can get it in re-runs.

[chrisr777]

Uhhh. No.

I could not even take the 1970's. BORING!!!

Uhhh. You weren't around during the 70's, were you?

And Brian, as much as I love Martins, they don't plug in. In the 1800's nothing plugged in.:crazyguy

[Virtual Pariah]

Uhhh. You weren't around during the 70's, were you?

And Brian, as much as I love Martins, they don't plug in. In the 1800's nothing plugged in.:crazyguy

Most of them, yes.

But I have to admit I have become spoiled with the 24/7 mentality we have now.

Just the thought of no internet and nothing to do on Sunday drives me nuts.
I think being a kid in the 70's was a lot less interesting than being a young adult in the 70's.

[Amp360]

I was a kid in the 70s.

Unlike today I remember playing outside. We would play wiffle ball, nerf football, jarts (which I would think have probably killed a bunch of kids), fastball, etc...

We were always active and doing stuff and although there was a lot less supervison around (except for a brief period where there was a Manson-esque cult opperating on my street - read the book Mortal Remains) it was pretty awesome.

Granted, we didn't get to sit around eating Cheetos and watching 36 hours of televison a week and if I talked back to my dad he would hit me, but we all behaved and had a lot of fun.

[furry]

the clothing would have been interesting. you know, that tweed, burlap looking fabric.

[echale3]

My G-Grandmother was born in 1889, in eastern Ky. When I was a kid, I used to ask her to tell me stories about her life, and she'd tell me about how it was before electricity came to her valley, before anybody there had indoor plumbing, before cars, etc., etc. My G-Grandad was born in 1879 in eastern Ky, and wrote a book called "The changes 80 years have made". Lots of interesting info in it about his life and lifestyles of common country folk.

As for me, I have always been fascinated with American history from the French and Indian War period up through about 1790, by which time my family was already well-settled in Kentucky. I've done a lot of studying about that time period. I've found that the good old days don't really seem all that good in a lot of ways. Life was less complicated in many ways, but much more difficult and work-intensive overall...

[offbeat]

Not for me. Working in the fields from dawn till dusk, milking by hand, shearing sheep by hand, frantically canning and curing food and hoping you had enough to last through the winter.
Think about living like the Amish do today, without the benefits of modern medicine and decent roads. Also, no safety net.... if you didn't bring in enough food, you went hungry unless your neighbors helped you out. No welfare, no insurance... if you hurt your back and couldn't work, again, you'd depend on the good will of your neighbors and your community.
Men and women were a lot tougher in those days, and had to be... the weak died young.

[DonW]

No, never wondered because my time in the military under certain circumstances couldn't have been very different than living in that era.

[ptgold]

I always wanted to be a cowboy...an outlaw maybe....have my face up in the wanted dead or alive sign thingies. That would have been cool.

but then again....with no TGP...how the hell would anyone of us survive that?

[trisonic]

Unless you were from a rich family you'd probably be a servant - life was still nasty, brutish and short; full of dirt and sickness.
I have no romantic notions of the past (as you can see) and my family were landowners in England.

Best, Pete.

[Totally Bored]

Life without Led Zeppelin ? :nuts :eek: :messedup :cry: :worried :barf

[SLBlues]

I have always thought I should have been born in 1843 instead of 1943. A lot of interesting stuff happened in that 100 years IMHO. Not all of it was good I will admit. The probability of living to witness it all would have been very slim however.

[Bobbofallenstar]

All the time. As much as I love technology and all of the marvels of today, there is one quote that I always go back to that I think is profound and true.


As you simplify your life, the laws of the universe will be simpler; solitude will not be solitude, poverty will not be poverty, nor weakness weakness.
Henry David Thoreau (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/h/henrydavid107811.html)

Not that this can't be achieved today, but I think it was easier to live a simpler life then.

And even he got thrown in jail!

[stratzrus]

Unless you were from a rich family you'd probably be a servant......or worse.

I wouldn't have enjoyed life before 1862 at all.

[Phil M]

Unless you were from a rich family you'd probably be a servant - life was still nasty, brutish and short; full of dirt and sickness.
I have no romantic notions of the past (as you can see) and my family were landowners in England.

Best, Pete.


I think Pete's got a very realistic view of the living conditions back then.

You were talking about the 1970s, right? :rimshot

[airwarrior]

http://243regiment.com/marchback.JPG


I do all the time.

[derekd]

Most of us would be dead. Life expectancy in the mid 1800's was 42. Being 48 now, the odds wouldn't be in my favor. Plus, there was surviving that nasty little dust up with the British to consider.

[DGDGBD]

What about colonial times when people bathed only a few times a year? I guess everyone smelled and no one cared.

[jcs]

There were a lot of very long lived folks in my family in the 1800s, most were farmers/lumberjacks that raised/gathered/hunted all of their own food.

The flu,trainwrecks,injuries,infection, dieing in childbirth (mother and/or child) certainly took its toll thus the average life was low, but the ones that survived in my family commonly lived into their 80s-90s and were very healthy to the end.

Food was much healthier as a whole, more exercise and clean well water helped too.

The only people in my family that were much overweight were the wealthier slave owners (they were the shortest lived too).

[derekd]

There were a lot of very long lived folks in my family in the 1800s.
,most were farmers/lumberjacks that raised all of their own food.

The flu,trainwrecks,injuries,infection, dieing in childbirth (mother and/or child) certainly took its toll thus the average life was low, but the ones that survived in my family commonly lived into their 80s-90s and were very healthy to the end.

Food was much healthier as a whole, more exercise and clean well water helped too.

The only people in my family that were much overweight were the wealthier slave owners (they were the shortest lived too).

Sure, there are always outliers, like there are now. However, average life exectancy means just that, average. So infections from simple injuries, infectious diseases, etc, no amount of organic food or clean water fixes that stuff. 42 just seems a bit young. Be a pretty small crowd for your 30 year HS reunion. ;)

[Bankston]

Considering the fact that we are less than 100 years removed from most people having to use outhouses, I would not want to live in the 1800's.

Not to mention the fact that life expectancy was much lower than it is today.

[Randy]

As tough as that must have been, imagine being a native American Indian before the Europeans arrived here. Especially if you lived in the north or midwest where you get a lot of snow.

We visited a reproduction of a long house in our area (NW CT) and it was nothing but bark and sticks and a dirt floor. Imagine being crammed into that thing all winter when it's 5 degrees outside, huddled around a fire choking on the smoke (no chimneys!), water dripping in all around, no candles.... for months on end.

Nothing but stone, bone and wood tools, no wheels, no domesticated animals, no metal... it's almost unimaginable how hard and primitive that life would have been.

[jcs]

Okay the average life in my family was much much higher than 42!

You need to understand my family was rural,,,,the folks in the cities otoh were the most unhealthy ones (not the rural folks),thats part of the reason folks left Europe in droves because the cities were so polluted and over-populated.

My dad was born in 1908 and did not live as healthy or as long as any of his parents or grandparents, mainly because he left the farm and became a teacher/coach/superintendent where he basically became sedentary after he quit referreeing basketball at the age of 40.

Lack of exercise,fast food and junk food ruled (and ruined) his life by his early 60s.

Anyone that denies healthy produce out of a garden and very lean meat (venison-rabbit etc) dont contribute to longevity, well i am sorry i have to disagree.

The rural folks slaughtered their own meat, smoked hams/bacon, had an orchard full of different apple/pear/peach/pecan and hickory trees and a cellar filled with canned produce from the garden as well as canning their own meat.

[okie]

100 years from now people will be saying the same thing about us, "can you imagine living in 2000s" It's all relative, but I'm glad to live in the 20th century.

[Alvis]

My grandparents were from the 1800s way down in Hardtime , Mississippi. From what I can gather ,it kinda sucked
Actually ,except for the car (49 ford coupe in my day) and the propane stove , my grandma lived in the 1800s up til about 1973 when she got cold runnin water and a phone

Goin down to Chickasaw...............

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/ayhcult/BiGMa-1.jpg

JCS makes some good points about quality of life . My mom's clan was hardly touched by the great depression . Being subsistence farmers ,money ,economy didn't matter much ,they grew/raised their food so there was plenty to eat . The kids were the "hired hands " so there were no wages to be paid....

[forestryguy]

I am often far back in the woods and find old hand-dug water wells, an old cemetery, footing for a house or barn or other signs of a former resident. I am amazed at how they grubbed out a living from poor soil in a difficult environment with only an ax, a hoe and maybe a mule. Miles from town, no doctor, a brood of kids to help with subsistence farm labor. An all day ride in a buggy to get the barest of provisions, if you could afford it. When people get to whining about "times are tough" now, I think about our predecessors with nothing but respect.

[Frankee]

I was trampled by a horse once.......so no, hell no.

[The Last Rebel]

I've always wanted to know what it was like to live in Boston or Philadelphia during the Revolutionary War and Constitutional Convention. I can't even imagine what is was like to be around the men responsible for forming this country.

[furry]

it would have been cool to go to the doctor. instead of filling out forms and handing over your insurance card, the Dr. just asks, 'what's bothering you?' and no matter what you say, you end up covered in leaches...

'But doc, the last time I was here, I had completely different symptoms, and you gave me the same treatment...LEACHES!'

and the doc would say, 'just be glad you have access to the latest leach technology...if this were the 16th century, you'd be done for...'

[Dr. Tweedbucket]

it would have been cool to go to the doctor. instead of filling out forms and handing over your insurance card, the Dr. just asks, 'what's bothering you?' and no matter what you say, you end up covered in leaches...

'But doc, the last time I was here, I had completely different symptoms, and you gave me the same treatment...LEACHES!'

and the doc would say, 'just be glad you have access to the latest leach technology...if this were the 16th century, you'd be done for...'


Yeah, they would just give you a good bleeding in the 16th century :bong



My Grandpa was born in 1908 and he said growing up back then wasn't all that bad. Every morning he'd wake up and start the fire to heat the house. He said snow would blow in the room from any gaps in the windows. :red He worked in a basket factory for a while where he met my Grandma. He later began working on cars ..... wow, how simple they were back then! He said the thing he noticed during his life was the more control of how you were allowed to live (laws, regulations, taxes).

Yep, I think that would have been a good time to grow up more-so than the 1800s .... there were still lots of mind blowing inventions and improvements going on. :beer


Anyone remember the Wild Wild West? :confused: I wonder if that really happened?

[trisonic]

Did he forget to mention teh 1918 flu epidemic?
Whole freaking towns were wiped out.
Sorry to rain on all the goodness but the good ol' days often weren't.

Best, Pete.

[Anna_Laurel]

A fact regarding life expectancy in times past:

The reason it was so low in times past (mid 40's for a male born in 1900) was due to the high rate of infant mortality, not the length of time you could expect to have once you reached the magic age of ten. In 1900 USA, ON AVERAGE, your child had a 50 per cent chance of dying before that age. The numbers skewed higher in remote areas and much lower in settled communities. Look at headstones from the era for ample evidence of this fact. The further back in time you go the more this holds true. In Mozart's time, some historians put the mortality rate for children under ten as high as 65%.

Would most of you be miserable if zapped back to say, 1870? Sure. But the people alive then didn't know they were miserable. Read their letters and journals. Our suffering and comfort is always relative. Not only were people of bygone eras accutomed to the conditions extant for millenia, they were as a result a tough lot who knew what self denial was all about which resulted in an animal far superior to those of us today in almost all respects, one who could take almost anything and appreciate the smallest windfall.

Having spent a great deal of my youth living in primitive conditions in the wilderness - of my own volition - I have a special place in my heart not only for these people, but also for the values which living in such a manner instills in a person. Although I cannot exactly put my finger on what they are (I am not a philosopher), I know with certainty that the musings of today's human are petty, self-pitying and wheedling in the light of those expressed by the generations who brought us to where we are today.


A/C is pretty cool, though.

[Flinx]

As tough as that must have been, imagine being a native American Indian before the Europeans arrived here. Especially if you lived in the north or midwest where you get a lot of snow.

We visited a reproduction of a long house in our area (NW CT) and it was nothing but bark and sticks and a dirt floor. Imagine being crammed into that thing all winter when it's 5 degrees outside, huddled around a fire choking on the smoke (no chimneys!), water dripping in all around, no candles.... for months on end.

Nothing but stone, bone and wood tools, no wheels, no domesticated animals, no metal... it's almost unimaginable how hard and primitive that life would have been.

Heck..they didn't have horses either...carried all their stuff on poles and such...friggin' rough...i'd like to travel back and look at what was going on but i wouldn't want to live it day in and day out.

[Moe Zambeek]

Wanna read a good book about the California goldrush? Try "The World Rushed In". It's real letters between a man who came west for the gold rush and his wife who stayed behind in the east. It's very interesting what he had to go through and how tough it was.

[TwoTubMan]

"I'd prefer someone from the age of shaved armpits."

Phillip J. Fry

[paulscape]

Yeah imagine forums like TGP...

THP (The horse page)
Telegram 12/3/1845: Hi all, Im looking to buy a horse off master Dumble, which horseshoes should I use to get a warm clip clop sound? Harry
Telegram 26/3/1845: FYI why would you bother with Dumble's breed's? I heard some of his Ponies were used to breed the fine horses out Two Rock way? YMMV Tarquiin
Telegram 1/5/1845: Thanks T. What iron is used at the two rock ranch? I want to go from clip clop to clippity clop without disturbing the potatoe farmers next door. Harry
Telegram 3/1/1850: Sorry Harry, I had to travel to London on business. You still need horseshoes?
Telegram 15/11/1861: FAIL - Jefferson

[Dr. Tweedbucket]

Yeah imagine forums like TGP...

THP (The horse page)
Telegram 12/3/1845: Hi all, Im looking to buy a horse off master Dumble, which horseshoes should I use to get a warm clip clop sound? Harry
Telegram 26/3/1845: FYI why would you bother with Dumble's breed's? I heard some of his Ponies were used to breed the fine horses out Two Rock way? YMMV Tarquiin
Telegram 1/5/1845: Thanks T. What iron is used at the two rock ranch? I want to go from clip clop to clippity clop without disturbing the potatoe farmers next door. Harry
Telegram 3/1/1850: Sorry Harry, I had to travel to London on business. You still need horseshoes?
Telegram 15/11/1861: FAIL - Jefferson


:D


That was funny!! :rimshot

[paulrocker]

As tough as that must have been, imagine being a native American Indian before the Europeans arrived here. Especially if you lived in the north or midwest where you get a lot of snow.

I'm thinking it wasn't a piece of cake after the Europeans got here either.

[Alvis]

A shot of my grandparents' house.It was built around the 1850s.They were not quite around yet,but somebody lived in it ....
This is the house my ma grew up in,I guess I did a bit of growin in it too.

Sometimes I show people this pic and they think it's just horrible .But it looks like home to me .Like the song says, Old times there are not forgotten ......

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/ayhcult/BigMa.jpg

[echale3]

http://243regiment.com/marchback.JPG


I do all the time.

Damn Lobsterbacks!!!! I can't really make it out too well from the picture, but the overall length of their firelock makes it look like they're carrying the Short Land Pattern Bess. What unit are you in, and where was this picture taken?

I've been doing the living history thing since the late '70s. I portray a frontier blacksmith.

[Randy]

I'm thinking it wasn't a piece of cake after the Europeans got here either.

Undoubtedly! But at least they got axes, horses and guns. I can't imagine how much work it must have been to collect enough firewood to heat an uninsulated hut 24/7 for 5 months of the year with just stone tools.... Let alone hunting Buffalo on foot with a bow and arrow!

[mark norwine]

Next stop....Willoughby

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31JHE08ZFHL._SX320_SY240_.jpg

[twinrider1]

Definitely. Especially on road trips. I think back to what it must've been like for explorers to cross the land. Already slow going by today's standards; imagine coming to a big river, or canyon, and having to detour around it, not knowing how far you'd have to go to find a way across.
Mom, born in 1936, was raised in rural Kentucky. They grew their own food, butchered/smoked their own animals. Sold a little tobacco.
Makes me feel very, very lazy.
They didn't know from our modern conveniences though, so they didn't miss them.

[echale3]

Undoubtedly! But at least they got axes, horses and guns. I can't imagine how much work it must have been to collect enough firewood to heat an uninsulated hut 24/7 for 5 months of the year with just stone tools.... Let alone hunting Buffalo on foot with a bow and arrow!

They also got TB and smallpox from the Europeans, which killed them off faster and more effectively than warfare with the European newcomers did.

I've spent time in a canvas tipi during winter, and it takes less wood to heat than you'd imagine, especially when there's several people in it and a coating of snow on the bottom portion of it for insulation. I've spent time, too, sleeping outdoors by a small campfire wrapped in a wool blanket with no tent while the temperature was well below freezing, and had a passable time of it. One trick to sleeping tolerably well outdoors in winter is to sleep with your feet to the fire--it's a lot more comfortable that way than it is to sleep with your head to the fire. Too, after a while, you get acclimated to the lower temperatures.

When I was a kid, we lived in a house built before the civil war, and literally the only source of heat in the place was a gas stove. What heat it gave off simply drifted around the house, and the upstairs was heated by the stove downstairs via hot air flowing up through holes in the floor that had with grates over them so you would not fall through. There were small coal fireplaces in most rooms, but they were non-functional due to disrepair. It was not uncommon to wake up to frost/ice on the inside of the window by my bed. Really, it's all in what you are used to....

[loudboy]

Julie Miller:

Take me back when times were hard but we didn’t know it
If we ate, we had to grow it
Take me back when all we could afford was the laughter
And two mules instead of a tractor
Take me back again



Take me back where there was nothing left to throw out
There was a light that wouldn’t go out
Take me back when we had swollen fingers we gotten
When everybody helped pick the cotton
Take me back again

[furry]

I'm thinking it wasn't a piece of cake after the Europeans got here either.

right. particularly after their 'gift' of free blankets...

[The_Whale]

As tough as that must have been, imagine being a native American Indian before the Europeans arrived here. Especially if you lived in the north or midwest where you get a lot of snow.

We visited a reproduction of a long house in our area (NW CT) and it was nothing but bark and sticks and a dirt floor. Imagine being crammed into that thing all winter when it's 5 degrees outside, huddled around a fire choking on the smoke (no chimneys!), water dripping in all around, no candles.... for months on end.

Nothing but stone, bone and wood tools, no wheels, no domesticated animals, no metal... it's almost unimaginable how hard and primitive that life would have been.

Actually, early settlers to North America noted how big, healthy and well fed native americans were compared to the people living in Europe.

:dunno

[The_Whale]

Did he forget to mention teh 1918 flu epidemic?
Whole freaking towns were wiped out.
Sorry to rain on all the goodness but the good ol' days often weren't.

Best, Pete.

Lots of smallpox epidemics in the mid 1800's too.

There have been more medical advances in the last 150 years than in the previous 100,000.

[It's Time!]

If I lived in the 1800's I know one thing for sure and that would be I would be friends with Clint Eastwood.

http://guitarforworship.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/eastwood_unforgiven_2.jpg

[jlott]

I think if you had money it would be okay. If you had no money it would have sucked for sure and been a very HARD life.

[The Golden Boy]

No thanks.

[Dr. Tweedbucket]

Everything goes in cycles, I see seriously hard times up ahead. :hide2

[jcs]

In the case of part of my family, they came in to Missouri from southwest Germany as lumberjacks and farmers.

The important thing was settling good land, which they did as they settled around the Missouri river which was very similar to their land in Germany.

The early UK immigrants did not settle this fertile bottom land, they preferred the hilly forest ground where there was abundant hunting (like in south Missouri).

Good land and skill at farming that land was more important than actually having much money initially.

Btw, that land in the Missouri river bottoms is now $3000-5000 an acre because its so productive.

[airwarrior]

Next stop....Willoughby

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31JHE08ZFHL._SX320_SY240_.jpg


YES!

[Analog Delay]

I once thought about what it was like to live back then but I decided to grab the remote and fast forward the Tivo to today.

Now I'm here.