What is best OS compressor?

[Jim Moulton]

What Orange Squeezer , Dan Armstrong, is your fave,?

Analogman Juicer
Hartman Compressor
Bajatech Da Squeezer
Farndurk Burgs
Pedalworks Mcsqueeze
Tangerine Squeeze

Any Other?
Jim:rimshot

[VIqbang]

Played with a Hartman and it is the only compressor I've ever purchased. I'm sure the others may be of similar quality, but they aren't handy in local shops nearby to test. So, for me, Hartman by far.

Never thought I would own a compressor...now I do.

[Relayer]

I have an MXR Dynacomp from 1974 that I still use in certain recording situations. As long as the battery is brand new-fresh, it beats all! and no, it's not for sale!

[Jim Moulton]

Dynacomp is a Ross, not orange squeezer type compressor, this is only for orange squeezers
Jim

[kldonegan]

The Pedaldoctor FX one I have sounds great. Come to think of it, I need to put it back on my board... been compressorless for far too long.

[zombiwoof]

I have the BBE Main Squeeze (later called the Orange Squash), which you didn't ever have in your list, and it is great. It's usable throughout the range of the intensity control (unlike a Dynacomp, for instance), is true bypass, and affordable.. All that I need, unfortunately now discontinued. You can still find them new at many places, however.

Al

[Han Solo]

I have the BBE Main Squeeze (later called the Orange Squash), which you didn't ever have in your list, and it is great. It's usable throughout the range of the intensity control (unlike a Dynacomp, for instance), is true bypass, and affordable.. All that I need, unfortunately now discontinued. You can still find them new at many places, however.

Al

I use the BBE too. Haven't tried the others but I was looking for a OS type comp and the Main Squeeze was/is exactly what I was looking for.

[Jim Moulton]

Let me clarify something, just did this for curiosity, that is all, someone thought that I was trying to downplay Orange Squeezers, actually love them, they can be very different in sound and compression. Analogman got the most votes , Anyone say something about why they like Mike's juicer as opposed to other alternatives, besides it being very popular?
Jim:rimshot

[EBGB]

Got the Analogman Juicer in the mail today

It was in use with a Tele in a recording session within an hour

A very fun compression sound

I had to vote for the Analogman... although I haven't tried the others:rockin

[ccrystle]

After I got Hartman's Germanium Fuzz, I got the treble boost, and from there if Hartman has it that becomes my standard when I care about tone (just about always).

The Hartman Compressor is smooth, clean, punchy when it needs to be, responsive without coloring. I haven't tried anything on the list other than Analogman, which is fine, but there's a richness about the Hartman tone I prefer.

I still have other pedals and use them for specific stuff. I always travel with the Hartman pedals; the other stuff might make it in depending on stage size.

disclaimer: I know Hartman, largely because of a music relationship, but I never let relationships get in the way of tone.

[Jim Moulton]

Hartman's is the only one I had and I loved it, someone swiped it in the mail, thinking about what to replace it with, maybe, itself!!!!
J

[FAT TIME]

Analogman Orange juicer player. you can set the inside trimpot bias for your pickup type (single coils vs humbuckers) I usually play humbuckers and I set this trimpot to be humbuckerfriendly. Can Boost your signal. One night I was playing and the juicer was on and I stomped by accident on the Beano Boost and I couldnt believe how good and appropriate they work together.At the end of the tune the drummer told me if you change that setup I will leave the gig. Since then I am always stacking the juicer to find good matches for any given musical situation.

[Jim Moulton]

That is different, never heard of a trimpot on an OS for single coil or humbuckers, usually on a one knobber, it is for amount of compression, I would have to ask Mike about this, but I'm guessing that you go with less Compression with a humbucker.
The Juicer as most Armstrongs are good for a boost too, I used to turn the comp knob on my Hartman down and I would have a great clean boost
J

[FAT TIME]

Of course the trimpot is not for that, I am sorry for any missunderstanding, I am from Argentina and my english is rusty and old fashioned, what I meant was that It allows you to set your preference for your pickup type, I followed the Manual instructions and moved it clockwise for less compression + better Volume qualities for a humbucker pickup guitar, Mike marks this trimpot with a factory setting, he also suggests a setting for a stratocaster guitar.Sorry for any inconvinience.

[Jim Moulton]

I understood you very well, no biggy
J

[Whiskey N Beans]

Farndurk Burgs II. Man oh man ... never knew what I was missing.

[Jim Moulton]

Farndurk makes one of the most unique os pedals around, great build, great tone, Brian is a great guy, His pedals are not hard on the eyes either!!!
Jim

[dividedsky]

Favorite OS was the one that Bob McBroom designed for Tone Factor called the Tone Factor Squeeze Factor. It was pretty limited and will never be made again but it was the best to me. Other ones I've had are the Analogman Juicer and McSqueeze. Now that I have a Tele I'm planning on buying one of these again and the Juicer is what I'm going for.

[Jim Moulton]

Divided Sky, I loved the Squeeze Factor too, it is available again at Pedalworx for 175. A little high, but it has a very unique compression, Bob Mcbroom is making pedals for PW now.
Jim

[dividedsky]

Really? Cool. I couldn't find it at their site. Got a link? Thanks. :)

[Jim Moulton]

Divided sky,
Go to site, and look for word store, click on it, it is in there, I just checked!!
JIm

http://www.pedalworx.com/store/

-scroll to bottom

[dividedsky]

Thanks! Their site was a bit difficult for me to navigate. Will definitely have to consider it even though it's quite a bit more than I paid for it before.

[Jim Moulton]

The Mcsqueeze blew me away, there are a couple of NOS ones around for 200, This is same circuit, but built new by Mcbroom, This pedal really compresses
Jim

[jacobhf]

The burgs 2 by farndurk sounds great, really great.

[goldie-gold]

I voted Analogman. I like it the most out of all the ones I've tried.

However, an honourable mention goes to the ToneFactor Pulp Mill - the addition of a mix knob makes it very versatile, I just found that I liked it all the way wet so I replaced it with a BiComp as I love Ross comps too!

[coelacanth]

Sorry for hijacking the thread, but this is relevant to my interest.

I built myself a clone of the OS a while ago. I'd never had a compressor before so I was curious. Immediately fell in love with it. It's got such a musical glassy touch to it. I should've never sold it, but I did.

One thing I didn't like much about it was that it was breathing rather too heavily. I could hear its blood pumping at a slow rate which I wasn't very happy with especially when I'm strumming fast.

Just wondering if there are any OS clones out there that you have a control for attack rate. And yes, that Farndurk Burgs sounds good in Burgerman's demo video, as if it was made for him. :)

[zombiwoof]

Sorry for hijacking the thread, but this is relevant to my interest.

I built myself a clone of the OS a while ago. I'd never had a compressor before so I was curious. Immediately fell in love with it. It's got such a musical glassy touch to it. I should've never sold it, but I did.

One thing I didn't like much about it was that it was breathing rather too heavily. I could hear its blood pumping at a slow rate which I wasn't very happy with especially when I'm strumming fast.

Just wondering if there are any OS clones out there that you have a control for attack rate. And yes, that Farndurk Burgs sounds good in Burgerman's demo video, as if it was made for him. :)

That's what I like about the BBE version, it doesn't exhibit the pumping that say an MXR DynaComp does, you can use the BBE through the whole range without any of that. Maybe that's just the design of the OS, and the other clones are similar, but I don't need an attack knob with the BBE.

Al

[Jim Moulton]

Are you sure it was an Armstrong Clone? They usually have have a superfast attack, I have never seen the need to adjust the attack on one? Pumping is usually related to a Ross type Comp
Jim:rimshot

[cuz/karl]

My buddy had an org. dan Armstrong rehoused.I dialed my GGG OS-1 right to it & neither of us could tell the difference.Great pedal and cheap.

[Jim Moulton]

Very simple circuit too!!:rockin

[coelacanth]

That's what I like about the BBE version, it doesn't exhibit the pumping that say an MXR DynaComp does, you can use the BBE through the whole range without any of that. Maybe that's just the design of the OS, and the other clones are similar, but I don't need an attack knob with the BBE.

Al

Thanks, I should check it out. I'm also interested in their optical compressor. Seems like pretty good for the money either way.

Are you sure it was an Armstrong Clone? They usually have have a superfast attack, I have never seen the need to adjust the attack on one? Pumping is usually related to a Ross type Comp
Jim:rimshot

Weird, it was the GGG's OSQ (Orange Squeezer) kit. I might've wired something wrong if that's very unusual of the typical OS circuit. Does anybody know if the internal bias trimpot affect the attack rate as well the compression amount?

[zombiwoof]

Are you sure it was an Armstrong Clone? They usually have have a superfast attack, I have never seen the need to adjust the attack on one? Pumping is usually related to a Ross type Comp
Jim:rimshot

I was wondering if the lack of "pumping" was due to the OS circuit, as I said my BBE doesn't do it at all at any setting. That's the main complaint many (including me) have about the DynaComp (which the Ross is a variant of). Most of the guys using DynaComps used them at a very low Sensitivity setting, and cranked the volume, as setting the Sens any higher would exaggerate the pumping. That's also why Dunlop came out with the Super Comp, which is a DC with an attack knob. There is a mod on the net for the DC to shorten the attack and reduce pumping, but I like the OS type better.

Al

[zombiwoof]

Thanks, I should check it out. I'm also interested in their optical compressor. Seems like pretty good for the money either way.
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The low cost of the BBE was why I bought it, I always wanted an OS type pedal, but didn't want to spend $200-400 for it. I don't know how close it is to a vintage plug-in OS, but I know that it works great for me. Also, it's true bypass.

Al

[dividedsky]

I personally dig the way you get that huge bloom from an OS comp.

[sabby]

I personally dig the way you get that huge bloom from an OS comp.

This is why I like them so much with a clean blend. If balanced right, the comp swell meets the dry decay in a totally musical way.

The Mcsqueeze blew me away, there are a couple of NOS ones around for 200, This is same circuit, but built new by Mcbroom, This pedal really compresses
Jim
:rockin

[DC1]

I think you missed one...


http://www.wdmusic.com/orange_squeezer.html


dc

[zombiwoof]

I think you missed one...


http://www.wdmusic.com/orange_squeezer.html


dc

That's odd, I could swear that the W.D. line also included pedal versions of those effects. I guess they dropped them.

Al

[Jim Moulton]

:BluesBrosThat's a Korean copy of the original, not very good I have heard, Grafton Electronics owned by Kent armstrong puts out American made copies of his Dad's pedals, from what I have heard , they are very sloppily made, the wires come off easy, I almost bought a Musictronics version on ebay a while back, it is the one Dan Armstrong approved of, Just 1 switch, compression is set, attack is set, there is a volume trim that seems to do more than adjust the volume, lots of Nashville Pickers used these, go to http://www.theohartman.com/SQZR.htm and click on compression, He has a detailed look at each

[DC1]

:BluesBrosThat's a Korean copy of the original, not very good I have heard, Grafton Electronics owned by Kent armstrong puts out American made copies of his Dad's pedals, from what I have heard , they are very sloppily made, the wires come off easy, I almost bought a Musictronics version on ebay a while back, it is the one Dan Armstrong approved of, Just 1 switch, compression is set, attack is set, there is a volume trim that seems to do more than adjust the volume, lots of Nashville Pickers used these, go to http://www.theohartman.com/SQZR.htm and click on compression, He has a detailed look at each

I tried one. Seemed to work well and sounded good.


dc

[Jim Moulton]

Which one, Grafton or WD, WD's are not available anymore. MF used to sell all of Armstrong's Grafton Pedals, but quit after awhile
Jim

[DC1]

Which one, Grafton or WD, WD's are not available anymore. MF used to sell all of Armstrong's Grafton Pedals, but quit after awhile
Jim

WD. And there they are, for sale. What do you mean, not available?


http://www.wdmusic.com/orange_squeezer.html


dc

[zombiwoof]

:BluesBrosThat's a Korean copy of the original, not very good I have heard, Grafton Electronics owned by Kent armstrong puts out American made copies of his Dad's pedals, from what I have heard , they are very sloppily made, the wires come off easy, I almost bought a Musictronics version on ebay a while back, it is the one Dan Armstrong approved of, Just 1 switch, compression is set, attack is set, there is a volume trim that seems to do more than adjust the volume, lots of Nashville Pickers used these, go to http://www.theohartman.com/SQZR.htm and click on compression, He has a detailed look at each

I had heard that the older WD versions were pretty bad, but that the recent ones used much better components and were better. When they re-launched these, there were also pedal versions, but I don't see them any more on the WD site. I don't have any experience with any of the WD models, but I like my BBE just fine. I was looking for a long time for an affordable OS, and I'm happy now.

Al

P.S. the recent WD ones are the Grafton US-made ones, not Korean. From the WD site:

"Grafton Electronics has taken over the detailed, hand assembly of these innovative and uniquely designed effects devices. Now, musicians around the world can jam using some of the finest designed and produced boxes ever known."

[Jim Moulton]

Look,
Let's quit arguing about these cheap copies, I would only want a musictronics one, made by Dan Armstrong's specific design. WDs were only made 80-81, Grafton's are available now from their own website

http://www.danarmstrongeffects.com/products/orange_squeezer_stomp_box_1.html

-And you can get the stomp box variety for 169, a good deal more than I'm paying for my Hartman. If you want an inexpensive good one, get a ggg clone made by ac good pedal maker. Get a Farndurk Joe, classy chrome box with a stomp knob($125) and volume switch on top, open it up and turn up the same compression that is in a Burgs 2. (Burr Brown preamp, no jrc4558.) One that is so cool is the B1, just a chrome box with black top($100),all adjustments are inside. That would be neat, like, what's that. www.Farndurk.com (http://www.Farndurk.com) :phones

[zombiwoof]

Look,
Let's quit arguing about these cheap copies, I would only want a musictronics one, made by Dan Armstrong's specific design. WDs were only made 80-81, Grafton's are available now from their own website

http://www.danarmstrongeffects.com/products/orange_squeezer_stomp_box_1.html

-And you can get the stomp box variety for 169, a good deal more than I'm paying for my Hartman. If you want an inexpensive good one, get a ggg clone made by ac good pedal maker. Get a Farndurk Joe, classy chrome box with a stomp knob($125) and volume switch on top, open it up and turn up the same compression that is in a Burgs 2. (Burr Brown preamp, no jrc4558.) One that is so cool is the B1, just a chrome box with black top($100),all adjustments are inside. That would be neat, like, what's that. www.Farndurk.com (http://www.Farndurk.com) :phones

Sorry to keep arguing, but the WD's are still available, and are made by Grafton. WD distributes them. I don't know exactly what you are saying. The older Korean WD models might have been made in 80-81, but the Grafton ones are still available from WD, if their website is any indication. In other words, Graphton makes them, and WD is the distributor. That's where the picture came from that the other guy posted. I don't really care, as I don't have either version.

Al

[Jim Moulton]

You can also get them from grafton's website, The WDs had WD written on front, but if you like these to be WDS, it is fine with me,
Jim:facepalm

[DC1]

You can also get them from grafton's website, The WDs had WD written on front, but if you like these to be WDS, it is fine with me,
Jim:facepalm

They're cheaper on WD's site.


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dc

[zombiwoof]

They're cheaper on WD's site.


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dc

And they would be even cheaper from a WD dealer, who would discount from the WD price. I wouldn't buy anything direct from WD or Allparts, because you pay full list from them.

Al

[analogmike]

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