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Jdobson
04-24-2010, 12:47 PM
So I picked up a dirt cheap squier 51 just so I can learn how to do some upgrades. (would prefer to learn on a cheapy rather than a nice one). Does anyone have any suggestions as to what would be some good upgrades (compatible with the 51). For pups I'm thinking a dimarzio area 51 neck and maby a gibby 57 classic in the bridge. Like I said, this is going to be a learning experience of sorts so any suggestions would be great. I'm needing a new bridge, tuners, maby a bigsby?, pickguard, etc, etc. Any tips or suggestions would be great. (especially on a good compatible bridge). I'm not looking to do any major routing or anything so nothing too extreme. THANKS.

Boris Bubbanov
04-24-2010, 02:06 PM
Gotoh splits with 10.5 mm conversion bushings;

Preslotted Tusq 1 + 11/16ths nut - use the Spacklehoss tutorial;

Drill 3 fresh holes through the back edge of the stock bridge plate and install a set of compensated brass Tel style barrels in place of the 6 existing ones. Cures all the rattle/jangle of the saddle and the strings fighting simultaneously for the same turf.
Sometimes called the "Bubba Mod".

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t25/Bubbanov/35FEB052008015.jpg

The pickups are fine, once these other areas are upgraded this much. You only see lots of trials of different pickups on Squier 51s because 51s were once insanely cheap ( I have owned 30 Squier 51s) and they're so easy to use as test subjects because there's no Squier 51 Police to come lock you up. :^)

littlemilo
04-24-2010, 03:07 PM
Boris is right, they are fun to mod, and the pickups they come with are pretty good. I'm afraid of losing some of the originality of the tone available when using both pickups and splitting the humbucker, so I stayed with the original pickups.

It's funny how doing one mod makes you do more mods. I put a tele humbucker style bridge on mine, which brightened the guitar too much, so I had to go with stainless saddles and add a tone control.
Also added a chicken head knob to the pickup selector so I could see/feel where it was easily.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w134/littlemilo/DSCN0390.jpg

I also cut a pickguard for it, made it string-thru, and painted the neck pick-up cover black. (that pickup is not a standard size).

Jdobson
04-24-2010, 03:47 PM
Very cool mods. A tone control is something I was definetly wanting to add. Thanks guys. Anyone else got some pics? ideas?

Boris Bubbanov
04-24-2010, 08:44 PM
Here's a 51 with the Bubba Mod, those vintage tuners and a Tusq nut, plus the upper half of a Tele bridge mashed flat to permit the installation of a set of Bill Lawrence Keystones.

This was deemed necessary because this guitar has a malady seen on a few SB 51s; the humbucker rout is set off to the side. This plate corrects that defect and covers the misaligned rout:

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t25/Bubbanov/51SEPT152007002.jpg

Boris Bubbanov
04-24-2010, 08:47 PM
And this is a string through mod. Quite a few done; most agree the result is not worth the effort - it was just a cheap guitar that made a great test bed.

Not necessary, but it would free you to use Strat bent steel saddles or chromed brass Gotoh block or brick style 6 saddles if you so chose:

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t25/Bubbanov/51AUG232007001.jpg

Jdobson
04-24-2010, 09:09 PM
So on the tele style barrel saddles, is it a pain to get the intonation set seeing as its two strings adjusted simultaneously?

peaveydriver
04-28-2010, 09:05 PM
I love mine! Even more so with the bubba mod and new tuners and a Tusq nut.:beer It's my "first wife" until my Strat project is done.:cool:

Boris Bubbanov
04-28-2010, 10:43 PM
So on the tele style barrel saddles, is it a pain to get the intonation set seeing as its two strings adjusted simultaneously?

NO, it is not really that hard since you have both some useful slant to get you close, then some tilt adjustments in this type of saddle to finish the task. To the extent you can ever intonate something like a 6 string guitar, yes they do intonate.

Please accept my apologies for the "mock-up" images. I have a bad habit of sticking something together, take a snapshot, and then properly setting it up while the image loads to the computer and then to my Photobucket account. Those saddles got a LOT more adjustment after the image was taken that they did before. :rolleyes:

ShavenYak
04-28-2010, 11:04 PM
If anyone cares, the Guitar Center in Hoover, Alabama has a '51 in their used inventory right now. I just saw it there the other day.

It's amazing how cheap these were for what they are - darn good playing little guitars.

Jdobson
04-29-2010, 10:55 PM
Gotoh splits with 10.5 mm conversion bushings;

Preslotted Tusq 1 + 11/16ths nut - use the Spacklehoss tutorial;

Drill 3 fresh holes through the back edge of the stock bridge plate and install a set of compensated brass Tel style barrels in place of the 6 existing ones. Cures all the rattle/jangle of the saddle and the strings fighting simultaneously for the same turf.
Sometimes called the "Bubba Mod".

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t25/Bubbanov/35FEB052008015.jpg

The pickups are fine, once these other areas are upgraded this much. You only see lots of trials of different pickups on Squier 51s because 51s were once insanely cheap ( I have owned 30 Squier 51s) and they're so easy to use as test subjects because there's no Squier 51 Police to come lock you up. :^)



So just a couple questions. Where do I go about finding these supplies. I checked stewmac but couldnt find the specific items mentioned. "gotoh splits"? "bushings" and the specific sized nut. I hate to be a pain but if anyone could post the direct links that would be great. And one last question. Is there a "bubba mod" walkthrough posted anywhere online. Maby its easy for others but I dont want to damage anything. When I drill the three holes for the new saddles, I'm assuming the holes need to be threaded? Self tapping screw? sorry.....I'm learning. Thanks for the help Boris. I really like this guitar "as is" and cant wait to see how much better it can get from here.

R13D
04-29-2010, 11:28 PM
I went minimalist on my '51 mod. Big strings tuned to low open C. Fun to play and sounds great.
http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv149/blueshade2/tarpics008.jpg

germs
04-30-2010, 08:07 AM
...ooooh, the GAS pain...

larimar
04-30-2010, 08:20 AM
If your just learning then one thing you might do is take the whole guitar apart and then put back together. That would teach you just about the same as basic pup, electronic, guard "upgrades" would.

That said, the Squier51 modders forum might help with the parts (I think it's ok to post link if not please delete) http://www.instituteofnoise.com/squier51/forum/default.asp

ImmortalSix
04-30-2010, 08:36 AM
This one has 14 unique switching options.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs276.snc1/10318_792957514683_6201882_44473678_1679758_n.jpg

zjiMrb_U2kM

My Squier '51 Build Thread 1.0 (http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159670&highlight=squier+%2751): Stock to low-mod

My Squier '51 Build Thread 2.0 (http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=176392&highlight=squier+%2751): Low-mod to high-mod

ImmortalSix
04-30-2010, 08:44 AM
Photo album 1 (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2335134&id=6201882&l=eb182f4d4c): bridge install, filing the pickguard, drilling the control plate, wiring

Photo album 2 (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2337285&id=6201882&l=2858fbb753): nut install, final assembly and setup

A few pics from those albums:

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2198/181/51/6201882/n6201882_40836292_6111.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2198/181/51/6201882/n6201882_40881025_3073.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2198/181/51/6201882/n6201882_40881027_3728.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2198/181/51/6201882/n6201882_40881042_238.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2238/181/51/6201882/n6201882_40935357_6051.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2238/181/51/6201882/n6201882_40935359_6769.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2371/181/51/6201882/n6201882_40948414_5611.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2371/181/51/6201882/n6201882_40948436_1106.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2371/181/51/6201882/n6201882_40948462_1538.jpg

That's how it was for probably 2 years, then I went ahead with the P-Rails + Triple Shot setup pictured / video'd in the last post on Page 1 from this past winter 'til present.


The current splittable Little '59 + P-Rails + TripleShot combo rules!

Boris Bubbanov
04-30-2010, 09:04 AM
If anyone cares, the Guitar Center in Hoover, Alabama has a '51 in their used inventory right now. I just saw it there the other day.

It's amazing how cheap these were for what they are - darn good playing little guitars.

Still there?

Saw that guitar (pretty much original) 3-4 weeks ago.

They're asking WAY too much but maybe they'll accept an offer.

If not, go next door to the mexican (Jalisco) restaurant and get the guacamole prepared tableside!! Best, and crazy cheap!!

Jdobson
04-30-2010, 09:21 AM
Any links or specifics on tuners/bushings and nut to get? Drilling for bubba mod specifics? Love all the modded 51 pics and ideas. Very cool stuff guys.

ShavenYak
04-30-2010, 10:18 AM
Still there?

Saw that guitar (pretty much original) 3-4 weeks ago.

They're asking WAY too much but maybe they'll accept an offer.

If not, go next door to the mexican (Jalisco) restaurant and get the guacamole prepared tableside!! Best, and crazy cheap!!

It was there last week. I imagine it will be there a while - I've tried making offers on used guitars there and they never budge.

We used to eat at that restaurant all the time back when it was called Guadalajara and the Guitar Center was a Circuit City.

Andy J.
04-30-2010, 10:29 AM
Hey; an opportunity to post pics and chat 51's? I'm game!

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/the_sugarrush/Kitarat/51-1.jpg

...sorry 'bout the pic quality. My mods include 70's Gotoh tuners, GFS Mean 90 and ProTube PU's, 3-way switch and a string-through hardtail strat-type bridge. Sounds great!

I wasn't actually a fan of the stock PU's AT ALL. ...can't seem to remember why, though? The humbucker was probably way too hot for my tastes.

ImmortalSix
04-30-2010, 10:36 AM
GFS Mean 90

Mine sounded awesome with a Mean 90 - that was it's best sound yet.

-ALKlzXgRZ4

Andy J.
04-30-2010, 10:58 AM
Mine sounded awesome with a Mean 90 - that was it's best sound yet.

Cool - that means I can stop thinking about trying out the P-Rails in mine! Thanks ;) !

ImmortalSix
04-30-2010, 11:02 AM
Cool - that means I can stop thinking about trying out the P-Rails in mine! Thanks ;) !

It's kind of a deep vs. wide debate.

I have the P-Rails in it now, but I must admit that the sound with the Mean 90 was better.

The tradeoff is that I can do a LOT with the P-Rails, jack of all trades, master of none. And right now I prefer that.

The Mean 90, especially with the toploader bridge, just sounds so right to me. Perfect clear, full, mean guitar tone.

005
04-30-2010, 11:59 AM
Here's my '51. It used to be yellow...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/dgarson/Guitar%20stuff/51body2.jpg?t=1272646789

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/dgarson/Guitar%20stuff/51case.jpg?t=1272646879

Drew68
04-30-2010, 12:35 PM
It's amazing how cheap these were for what they are - darn good playing little guitars.

I wonder why Squier discontinued them? They've seemed to develop quite a following.

ShavenYak
04-30-2010, 12:48 PM
Here's my '51. It used to be yellow...


Is that the pickguard GuitarFetish sells?

Boris Bubbanov
04-30-2010, 01:46 PM
I wonder why Squier discontinued them? They've seemed to develop quite a following.

The wood in some of the bodies is pretty low quality. The bridges were tearing out; loose pickguards and control plates. Also a certain percentage of humbucker routs were offset and didn't align right. The push pull pots seemed to be breaking there although this issue went away at some point.

Mostly, though, I think FMIC just wanted to take Squier in a different direction and wanted the Squier models more analogous to real or at least planned Fender models. In the hopes the owners of Squier model XY guitars would soon thereafter grow up to be Fender XY model owners.

But the biggest issue was the topload 6 saddle bridge itself, IMO. The strings and saddle competed for the same real estate, and especially when owners lowered the plain strings, the saddles had almost as much force levitating them as force pressing them down. Seriously bad trashy/jangly sounds with saddle height screws falling out and even saddles falling off when the string broke. Never understood why they did not utilize a bridge like the ones on the CV Duo-Sonics. :idea

+++

And in all fairness to FMIC, the cult really started only after:

1) The guitar was absolutely discontinued; and

2) The guitars were blown out at $ 90 and even $ 69 a piece. You bet your life that attracted a lot of the excitement; sure made the difference with me!

ImmortalSix
04-30-2010, 02:06 PM
While I must tip my hat to Boris Bubbanov (who, in case you didn't know, is like the godfather of Squier '51 mods, hi Boris!), I think their discontinuation was related to the Squiers being too good, basically.

Imagine you walk into a guitar store, looking for a low-mid-range guitar. You're figuring on a MIM Stratocaster or Telecaster.

You play all those and think "hey, these feel OK," and then you pick up a Squier '51, which has an amazing neck profile, surprisingly good fretwork, the comfortable body of a Strat, the chunk neck of a Telecaster, you got your humbucker in the bridge for rock tones, and you got your Single coil in the neck for lead tones, paired with unique switching options.

They just answer a lot of questions - they fit a lot of needs - and they were uncannily well built.

And they were a 5th of the price.

I have a feeling that during the time that Squier '51s were on sale, they were selling a lot of them, and were not selling a lot of the more expensive guitars, e.g. MIM Standards.

Cheers to the Indonesian Cort factory for really doing good work.

Jdobson
05-01-2010, 12:26 AM
I'd like to get a humbucker cover for my 51. Does anyone know what the pole spacing needs to be for the cover? It's going on the stock humbucker. Do most covers even list spec's like that?? I'd also like to get some covers for my taylor solid body standard eventually. Are they all pretty much the same???

Ed Alvarado
05-01-2010, 12:13 PM
Here's mine. Master volume and tone with added mini pickup selector switch, Seymour Duncan Zebra bridge with chome ring , Stewmac strat neck pickup and a Pickguardian pickguard.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/ekrockit/IMG_2378.jpg

Metalrulez
05-01-2010, 04:26 PM
I love seeing people mod 51's. That way I will have the only stock example on Earth and it will be worth MILLIONS!!! muhahahaha MILLIONS I TELL YOU!!!!

JohnnyMo67
05-20-2010, 02:30 PM
I just bought a "51" from a pawn shop for $100.00 that is nearly perfect! It's beautiful! It looked pretty dirty and beat up, but after a damp cloth, a que-tip and some compressed air, it looked almost like new! Just found this forum and wanted to ask a question for help. I saw a modified 51 that someone had installed or added a "Fender" in the classic scrip decal with the words "Squier Fifity One" decal under it on the head stock. It looks so cool. Where can i find these decals? I'm new to modifying guitars, just picking on up again seriously after 25 years! Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks! johnnymo67

driver8
05-28-2010, 09:34 PM
How do P90s sound in this guitar?

I modded mine with a GFS strat neck pickup that is kind of weak, and left the bridge, which to me is too ratty. I think I'm going to put a Fatbody tele pickup in the neck and a Mean 90 in the bridge, which seems like it would be a good combo.

But then I also just saw these "VEH" pickups, and now I'm thinking about putting one of those in the bridge. If those match their description, that might rock pretty hard :love:

http://store.guitarfetish.com/veviexhoblbr.html

my '51

http://imgur.com/9KIt8.jpg

Trego
05-28-2010, 09:54 PM
Here's my '51. It used to be yellow...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/dgarson/Guitar%20stuff/51body2.jpg?t=1272646789

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/dgarson/Guitar%20stuff/51case.jpg?t=1272646879

Personal favorite...what a work of love!

ImmortalSix
05-28-2010, 10:01 PM
How do P90s sound in this guitar?

I modded mine with a GFS strat neck pickup that is kind of weak, and left the bridge, which to me is too ratty. I think I'm going to put a Fatbody tele pickup in the neck and a Mean 90 in the bridge, which seems like it would be a good combo.

But then I also just saw these "VEH" pickups, and now I'm thinking about putting one of those in the bridge. If those match their description, that might rock pretty hard :love:

I have had both a GFS Mean 90 and a Seymour Duncan P-Rails in the bridge position of my '51.

This guitar begs for a P90 bridge, in my mind.

The GFS Mean 90 was far better. Head and shoulders above the P-Rails for this guitar (and my ear.)

We can compare both here:

Mean 90
-ALKlzXgRZ4

P-Rails
zjiMrb_U2kM

driver8
05-28-2010, 10:15 PM
Thanks for the quick response. I think that's what I'll go with. It seems like it would be the perfect balance with the Fatbody neck.

The videos sounded great. Maybe it was the recording or a different amp, but the Mean 90 sounded a little darker than I expected. Was that the Scofield/Mayer riff in the duncan video? :D

I have had both a GFS Mean 90 and a Seymour Duncan P-Rails in the bridge position of my '51.

This guitar begs for a P90 bridge, in my mind.

The GFS Mean 90 was far better. Head and shoulders above the P-Rails for this guitar (and my ear.)

We can compare both here:

Mean 90
-ALKlzXgRZ4

P-Rails
zjiMrb_U2kM

wespants
11-17-2010, 11:32 PM
Resurrecting this thread to avoid creating a new one. Wanted to share w/ TGP members some Squier '51 mod ideas.

I wanted to keep mine such that I could return it to stock, in the crazy event that surviving stock ones become prized collectibles someday :D. However, and please forgive me for such heresy, I wasn't crazy about the big white pickguard or the volume difference between the single coil and the humbucker.

My original idea was a GFS rail in the neck along with a GFS black or tort guard. However, they had discontinued the guards and only had white left. Custom cut ones were expensive and I didn't want to go thorugh the trouble of making one, so I grabbed a black Strat GFS guard when ordering my 'Lil Killer Cream 10K rail pickup.

I wired the pickup to coil split with the volume just like the bridge, so that they were either both split or both humbucking.

I attached the pickguard with double stick tape to avoid drilling holes in the body and (since the photo) I filled the holes with caulk and colored it black so that they can easily be reused.

Anyway, here is another idea for those looking for or those who own '51s. Sorry if this thread resurfacing causes GAS, for these are GREAT guitars! :dude

http://y1ljdw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pGmnJZvF0B1S1i9vwRiCh28_sMP1BrwixjVRXSqVvn4VuHc1 4RNVKpP7Y9OI9PhTjbmrhjO07Je6z80N7QO72EUuhMT1359Uj/Wesley's%20Modded%20'51.jpg?psid=1

ImmortalSix
11-18-2010, 07:42 AM
Resurrecting this thread to avoid creating a new one. Wanted to share w/ TGP members some Squier '51 mod ideas.

I wanted to keep mine such that I could return it to stock, in the crazy event that surviving stock ones become prized collectibles someday :D. However, and please forgive me for such heresy, I wasn't crazy about the big white pickguard or the volume difference between the single coil and the humbucker.

My original idea was a GFS rail in the neck along with a GFS black or tort guard. However, they had discontinued the guards and only had white left. Custom cut ones were expensive and I didn't want to go thorugh the trouble of making one, so I grabbed a black Strat GFS guard when ordering my 'Lil Killer Cream 10K rail pickup.

I wired the pickup to coil split with the volume just like the bridge, so that they were either both split or both humbucking.

I attached the pickguard with double stick tape to avoid drilling holes in the body and (since the photo) I filled the holes with caulk and colored it black so that they can easily be reused.

Anyway, here is another idea for those looking for or those who own '51s. Sorry if this thread resurfacing causes GAS, for these are GREAT guitars! :dude

http://y1ljdw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pGmnJZvF0B1S1i9vwRiCh28_sMP1BrwixjVRXSqVvn4VuHc1 4RNVKpP7Y9OI9PhTjbmrhjO07Je6z80N7QO72EUuhMT1359Uj/Wesley%27s%20Modded%20%2751.jpg?psid=1

The Strat-style pickguard looks great on that!

ImmortalSix
11-18-2010, 07:44 AM
Thanks for the quick response. I think that's what I'll go with. It seems like it would be the perfect balance with the Fatbody neck.

The videos sounded great. Maybe it was the recording or a different amp, but the Mean 90 sounded a little darker than I expected. Was that the Scofield/Mayer riff in the duncan video? :D

That was my first try at the "I Don't Need No Doctor" riff.

I wasn't quite "there" yet :rotflmao

I eventually got it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ll_tutpzc#t=30), though :D

guitarmook
11-18-2010, 07:57 AM
w/ p-90 neck, tele bridge, GFS bridge pickup. Added a small toggle between the pots for a pickup selector, which makes the second pot available for 'tone'.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/guitarmook/DSCF1152.jpg

This has 2 lawrenceUSA blade pickups, a bigsby, and an allparts FAT neck... again with the little toggle... this one gets played quite a bit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/guitarmook/DSCF0405.jpg

ImmortalSix
11-18-2010, 08:07 AM
Added a small toggle between the pots for a pickup selector, which makes the second pot available for 'tone'.



I did the same thing - great mod for these.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2238/181/51/6201882/n6201882_40935359_6769.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs029.snc1/2371_656984016663_6201882_40948451_6063_n.jpg

Go Cat Go!!
11-18-2010, 09:41 AM
Here's mine. I got it for $80 during the Musician's Friend blow out. I changed the bridge, tuners and knobs are all Guitar Fetish stuff. The neck pup is a GFS strat rail and the bridge is a Dream 180. It's a really fun guitar to play.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3816/squire51auv2.jpg

wespants
11-18-2010, 10:37 AM
I do like the toggle mod and have seriously considered that. I do like the idea of having a tone knob as I use them quite a bit on my Strat. If I do that, I may change some component values though because right now my neck (rail) pickup sounds like the tone is already rolled off. I wouldn't want the tone knob to roll off much more, but rather give me the ability to go considerably brighter and maybe a little darker than it is currently.

Does anyone one else with a rail (or another type) pickup in the neck of a '51 experiece it being really dark sounding, say compared to a Strat's neck pickup?

Todd Lynch
11-18-2010, 10:52 AM
http://y1ljdw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pGmnJZvF0B1S1i9vwRiCh28_sMP1BrwixjVRXSqVvn4VuHc1 4RNVKpP7Y9OI9PhTjbmrhjO07Je6z80N7QO72EUuhMT1359Uj/Wesley's%20Modded%20'51.jpg?psid=1


Great look.

wespants
11-18-2010, 09:10 PM
Thanks Todd and ImmortalSix! I'm really happy with how it turned out; esp considering I have less than $120 in it with the upgrades! You just can't beat these guitars. I have an '80s MIJ Strat, but the '51 is my "daily driver"! :)

wespants
01-07-2012, 09:01 PM
I hate to resurrect an old thread again, but see no point in starting a new one. I made a couple of changes to my '51. I liked the Strat guard, but got tired of black, so I ordered a red tortoise shell guard (from guitarpartsonline I think...) and painted (yes painted) my pickups white. I used the Krylon Fusion paint. If it doesn't stick well, I'll order some cheap white pickups from somewhere (probably Dragonfires) and pop them in. This is my favorite stage of my '51 yet, and may be the final stage. Oh yea, the neck has 2 coats of Tru Oil on it now to darken it too.

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m489/wcfarris/Squier51Jan12.jpg

Ed Alvarado
01-07-2012, 09:22 PM
Cool!

geodr
01-10-2012, 11:35 PM
This looks great and has inspired me to reclaim the '51 I gave my daughter 5 years ago that she no longer uses! Its a sunburst, and I really like the look of the red tortoise strat pickguard that wespants did. I think the first mods I will do are bridge, nut and tuners, and then on to pickups in phase II.

So I have read a LOT over at the S'51 modders forum, but I have a couple of questions for the modding experts.

First, is this a good choice for a bridge, from GFS?

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss247/meymand/c36_a.jpg

Second, are these Wilkinson tuners from GFS as good a choice as the Gotohs (part 0648) from Stew Mac?

http://store.guitarfetish.com/Wilkinson-Fender-Style-Nickel-Tuners-Six-for-Strats-and-Teles_p_891.html

and if getting the GFS ones, do I need the conversion bushings (GFS part 648) like the Stew Mac Gotoh ones do?

Last, I know the Stew Mac tusq nut part # is 4750, and am aware of Spacklehoss' tutorial, but wondering what is the graph-tech part #, cause I might get it elsewhere?

http://www.graphtech.com/products.html?SubCategoryID=4

Thanks everyone! Will post pics as it develops...

wespants
01-20-2012, 11:43 PM
Thanks for the compliment! I can't really help with your questions though; as you can see my bridge, nut and tuners are stock. Thought I'd give you a bump though!

I've heard good things about those Wilkinson compensated bridges. That one with the brass saddles would look sweet on a '51. If I were doing further (and I might) upgrades to mine, I'd probably look toward the bridge and nut next too. I've had no tuner issues, but do get a little buzzy/ringing sound sometimes on the open B that has to be nut or bridge related. It generally doesn't bother me while playing, especially plugged in, so at this point my $$$ is going toward other gear/projects.

sollophonic
02-14-2012, 03:51 PM
Simple three saddle mods to the bridges on my two.


http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/andys_01/PeaveyAmpplusSquier51.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/andys_01/Squier51withleather1.jpg

Sunburst one is stock otherwise

The cream one has a Lace Sensor in the neck slot, and wears different pickguards. I just covered the one in the shot with faux leather

zastruga
02-14-2012, 06:05 PM
And mine.. GFS Bigmouth in the bridge, and GFS Brian May in the neck. Interesting combo, since it can go from screaming to gentle and chimey with the turn of a knob.

http://fencedinarea.com/Images/Gear/Squier_51_05_110616_med.jpg