Is the Teese 'core halo' inductor noisier than the 'stack of dimes' ?

[Perry D.]

I recently bought a new Picture wah and was very disappointed to find that it was WAY noisier than my RMC-1 when used with my various OD and dist. pedals. Is this noise ( like a low 60 cycle gain hum) due to the differences in the 'core halo' vs. the 'stack of dimes' inductor? I am powering all of my pedals with carbon batterys and my signal chain goes like this: Strat > Teese wah > BBOD > Honey Bee > Blues Devil > DRD > Fargen Blackbird. The noise from the Pic wah is directly proportional to how much distortion I have dialed in from my other pedals and I am not 'stacking' them. I would appriciate any input regarding this topic.

Thanks,
Perry D.

[agentcooper2001]

I found the RMC3LE very noisy and my RMC-2 is dead quite. I don't know what the hell the difference is, but I much prefer the RMC2.

[duende]

Perry,

I think something is wrong with your picture wah. Especially since you power it off a battery.

I'd email George.

Alex

[HHB]

I'm having tons of noise using my RMC3 LE , using a power supply but man this thing just humms like crazy when used , back to the original Crybaby for now

[Troy T. Blues]

Originally posted by HHB
I'm having tons of noise using my RMC3 LE , using a power supply but man this thing just humms like crazy when used , back to the original Crybaby for now

Power supplys can greatly contribute to the noise factor.

[Plexihead]

Originally posted by HHB
I'm having tons of noise using my RMC3 LE , using a power supply but man this thing just humms like crazy when used , back to the original Crybaby for now

I noticed the RMC3LE hummed real bad when placed too close to the Ultra Vibe, it doesn't like to be close to transformers at all. If you are using a PP2 or something similar product, make sure it's as far away from the RMC3 as possible.

With the settings I have inside the pedal at the moment, I have to watch how high I turn the bass trimmer up, too high and it introduces hum as that trimmer also has gain on tap. You might want to see how high you have that turned up in the pedal.

[Perry D.]

As I have stated, I am only using carbon batteries to power my pedals and there is not another ac/dc transformer in the room. I moved the Pic wah 5 feet away from my other pedals to see if that would reduce the hum. It did not. I tried moving my amp to another AC circuit to see if that would help. It did not. I tried Strat > wah > Blues Devil > Amp. Once I stomped the BD, the hum was there in spades. The Pic wah is AT LEAST three times noisier than my RMC-1. I am in email contact with Geoffrey with hope that he can help me rectify this situation. My thanks to everyone for contributing to this thread.

Perry D.

[jlagrassa]

When I had my RMC3-LE it humed a lot with High Gain, Great Wah but the hum sucked, I tried Batterys used it with my Furman SPB-8 and also with a Pedal Power 2 always hummed with heavy distortion.

I sold the Pedal and bought the Crybaby Classic (w/Fasal Inductor) and is the quietest wah I have played and it does sound very good. I did nothing different i have always kept my wahs away from power supplys so it seems that Teese is just sensitive to high gain!

[duende]

Originally posted by Perry D.
As I have stated, I am only using carbon batteries to power my pedals and there is not another ac/dc transformer in the room. I moved the Pic wah 5 feet away from my other pedals to see if that would reduce the hum. It did not. I tried moving my amp to another AC circuit to see if that would help. It did not. I tried Strat > wah > Blues Devil > Amp. Once I stomped the BD, the hum was there in spades. The Pic wah is AT LEAST three times noisier than my RMC-1. I am in email contact with Geoffrey with hope that he can help me rectify this situation. My thanks to everyone for contributing to this thread.

Perry D.

That sounds like the smartest thing to do. The only other thing I can think of is if your playing in a room with dirty power. Any dimmers around or nearby??

I know my Gretch Country Gent, hates my office/workspace no matter what I do. I have to take my shoes off, and play with my foot on my wah or I get a buzz.

Good luck!

Alex

[LordRiffenstein]

I'm kinda glad to read that more people are having noise issues with their Teese wah. I have the RMC3LE and it gets seriously noisy. I have a power supply on the far left on my board, wah on the far right but still it was picking up a lot of noise. The only solution is to put the wah off the board:

http://www.lordriffenstein.com/images/Update%20Board.jpg

I'm seriously considering getting some nu-metal to totally shield the wah but that's extremely expensive stuff. It's not picking up noise from the interface box but simply from the power supply.

[HHB]

anyone speaks w/ Geoffrey concerning this please post his reply/fix, this sucks cause I love the pedal and all the features, I am using a small amount of boost from the RM3 but why have the feature if it can't be used, ya know?

[LordRiffenstein]

I've send him an email and asked to chime in here!

[LordRiffenstein]

Here's the reply from Geoffrey:

Mumetal is the only thing that will work. All 2005 RMC wahs feature mumetal shielded inductors-halos and stacks. Unfortunately, the custom mumetal cans I now have are not large enough to retrofit old wahs.

Mumetal it is.

[gsf]

Where's everybody getting the Mumetal? The searches I did seemed to turn up industrial sized sites. Iwas gonna use some copper foil, but if the mumetal is the only thing............

[LordRiffenstein]

Originally posted by gsf
Where's everybody getting the Mumetal? The searches I did seemed to turn up industrial sized sites. Iwas gonna use some copper foil, but if the mumetal is the only thing............

I´m considering buying a kit from these guys:

http://www.mushield.com/

[muddy]

at $180-190 a pop for the kits (OUCH!!!), i wonder how MUCH mu-material you actually get? i'm also wondering if maybe we should find out & co-purchase a "gear page" kit & divvy it up equally amongst the buyers?


ml

[cubba65]

Are you only covering the inductor with it?
That's the size of a quarter, plus 1/2" for the sides.... not much material and split up (like muddy says) wouldn't be that much $$$ per user.

OK Mike, I'll trade you my portion for a J. Everman Lo-Fi....
(snickering smiley)

[John Hurtt]

Originally posted by muddy
at $180-190 a pop for the kits (OUCH!!!), i wonder how MUCH mu-material you actually get? i'm also wondering if maybe we should find out & co-purchase a "gear page" kit & divvy it up equally amongst the buyers?


ml

That's not a bad idea, I'm sure that Geoffrey Teese would likely show us how he is sheilding the 2005 models.

[Geoffrey]

Hi Everybody,

The material from Mushield is enough to do LOTS of inductors. I started experimenting with a kit from them last year. Here's the problem: you get 3 different types of mumetal materials and no one material by itself does the job. You'll need to cut a strip of each material, a little taller than the inductor and long enough to go around the inductor 1 1/2 times, as well as a circular piece to fit on the top. That's right, 3 materials wrapped around the inductor and 3 materials stacked on top of the inductor. You can hold each "layer" in place with clear tape as you wrap the next layer around the previous one. Drop the circular tops on the top of the inductor and push them down so they'll be within the wrapped mumetal. Use tape to hold the tops in place as well. Not pretty, but works GREAT!

Be sure to read all the info that comes with the mumetal as there is important handling information included.

Let's face it, the 3 weak points in a wah are the pot, the switch and the inductor's sensitivity to EMI. I use the same blue 3PDT that everyone else uses so if you read about people with switch problems in RMC wahs since '02, you'll find the same problems in any wah that uses the same blue 3PDT switch. I am currently testing a new DPDT in my 2005 model RMC3. So far, the DPDT is performing well. I tested a few last year and everything seemed fine, but I won't know until later this year about the reality of it all. The mumetal shields I'm now using should take care of the inductors' sensitivity to EMI.

Peace, Love, and Wah,
Geoffrey R. Teese
www.realmccoycustom.com

[John Hurtt]

Thanks Geoffrey,

Love the RMC3LE, but if there was a way to shield it better...

Hopefully there might be a way to retrofit/modify something down the line.

[gsf]

Yeah - I'd be in on the co-buy. I'd even pay a premium to someone, who after doing their pedal, would mail me the pre-cut pieces that matches theirs (for rmc3). :> ) It would be almost easier for one of us to get it (after participants got their money in), divide it up, and mail to each one, rather than circulate from one to another, then another, etc. I would be willing to take the time, but I am LAME with any type of mechanical IQ.

Also, years ago, wasn't there a shielding paint??? And a month ago, there was a thread on this (I started it) and someone suggested copper ..... I'm sure Geoffrey has tried it all , so his advice 'reigns supreme'.

[peacock72]

Originally posted by muddy
at $180-190 a pop for the kits (OUCH!!!), i wonder how MUCH mu-material you actually get? i'm also wondering if maybe we should find out & co-purchase a "gear page" kit & divvy it up equally amongst the buyers?


ml Count me in! The inductor in my 60's Colorsound needs to be shielded. It can get noisy as all hell with certain effects.

[shawnpurcell]

Hey Guys,

I would go in on enough to do 2-3 inductors...

Shawn Purcell

Keep me posted...

[Plexihead]

I'd be in for one inductors worth if shipping to Toronto would not be a problem . . . I'd imagine just a simple small envelope would do.

[HHB]

I'll buy enough for 1

[muddy]

don't forget, this was MY idea, so count me in for 1. :)


ml

[Play by Tone]

Wow, my RMC3-LE is quiet, and its run off a power supply (ADL Juicebox). And its next to my Mojo Vibe. Am I defying the laws of Wah?

[jlagrassa]

Originally posted by Play by Tone
Wow, my RMC3-LE is quiet, and its run off a power supply (ADL Juicebox). And its next to my Mojo Vibe. Am I defying the laws of Wah?

Do you use the wah with high gain distortion, When I had the RMC3-LE that's the only time I had Issues with hum! When clean or mild OD it wasnt a problem.

[gsf]

Do we have a volunteer to order, cut, distribute, maybe make a little? Will scissors cut this stuff? edit: YES

[gsf]

OK Here's what I'm gonna do. I'll order the Magnetic shielding sample kit from MuShield by the end of today. I just wanna make sure that's the one I need to get instead of the Tech sample kit- will someone confirm this for me today?

When it comes in, I'll cut one sheet of each of the 3 materials into equally sized strips, generous enough to do the job. Everybody that has posted prior to this post, who sends me an email with their address will get one as my my gift. Don't send emails 'til I notify you on this thread that I actually have recieved the stuff. After we all are taken care of, I'll see how many I can make of whats left, and determine a break even price point. Then that's what our other forum brothers/sisters will get it at, til what I want to sell is gone.

The only other thing I need to know is if the 'stack of dimes' is taller/wider,etc. than the coil inductor. The strips will probably be oversized a bit anyway.

[John Hurtt]

Originally posted by gsf
OK Here's what I'm gonna do. I'll order the Magnetic shielding sample kit from MuShield by the end of today. I just wanna make sure that's the one I need to get instead of the Tech sample kit- will someone confirm this for me today?

When it comes in, I'll cut one sheet of each of the 3 materials into equally sized strips, generous enough to do the job. Everybody that has posted prior to this post, who sends me an email with their address will get one as my my gift. Don't send emails 'til I notify you on this thread that I actually have recieved the stuff. After we all are taken care of, I'll see how many I can make of whats left, and determine a break even price point. Then that's what our other forum brothers/sisters will get it at, til what I want to sell is gone.

The only other thing I need to know is if the 'stack of dimes' is taller/wider,etc. than the coil inductor. The strips will probably be oversized a bit anyway.

Possibly Teese would send a pic of what he has made up for and then adjust for size?

[DerekMinnich]

Originally posted by gsf
OK Here's what I'm gonna do. I'll order the Magnetic shielding sample kit from MuShield by the end of today. I just wanna make sure that's the one I need to get instead of the Tech sample kit- will someone confirm this for me today?

When it comes in, I'll cut one sheet of each of the 3 materials into equally sized strips, generous enough to do the job. Everybody that has posted prior to this post, who sends me an email with their address will get one as my my gift. Don't send emails 'til I notify you on this thread that I actually have recieved the stuff. After we all are taken care of, I'll see how many I can make of whats left, and determine a break even price point. Then that's what our other forum brothers/sisters will get it at, til what I want to sell is gone.

The only other thing I need to know is if the 'stack of dimes' is taller/wider,etc. than the coil inductor. The strips will probably be oversized a bit anyway.

I would probably be in for this to as I have a Teese RMC3-LE. If there is not a spot for me thats okay though, don't feel bad.

[jpig]

count me in for buying a peice, when you get it set up.

[MarkyMark]

After ordering a WOF wah from Mr. Teese,
I also encountered a rather loud hum when
using the wah either with batteries or
Pedal Power.
I returned the wah to Teese and he covered the
inductor with mu-metal with great results.
No more humming even when using high gain.
Batteries, PedalPower, makes no difference.
A worthwhile improvment. Thankyou Geoffrey.
MM

[gsf]

just ordered the stuff from the link LordRiff posted. Thanks guys. Hope you'll be hearing from me soon.

[Play by Tone]

Originally posted by jlagrassa
Do you use the wah with high gain distortion, When I had the RMC3-LE that's the only time I had Issues with hum! When clean or mild OD it wasnt a problem.

Bogner Shiva, now Divided by 13 FTR-37.

[fuzzyguitars]

Hey gsf

i tried to email you but it wouldnt let me.

count me in for enough to do two of em!

please email me at fuzzyguitars@hotmail.com

ps i can paypal you the cost!

[HHB]

gsf , your email thriough the board is disabled, I'd dearly love some sheilding material, please email me or make your email public, thanks agian for doing this!!!!

[gsf]

OK - The mumetal just got here, so here's how I would like to do it. Every one on this post UP TO THIS POST will get enough free material to do one. After that, I'll see what the price will be to pay for additional 'kits' to cover the mumetal and postage. I might set it so there will be an overage. That overage will be a donation to our very enjoyable and well run Gear Page.

Here's what I'd like in the email:
Your TGP handle! PLEASE
Your Name
Your Address

I've got a whirlwind couple of days, but I'm gonna do what I can to get these mailed out by Fri. afternoon.

Use Geoffrey Teese's prior post for how to do this. I may post more 'tips' if I find anything not covered.

There are 3 permeabilities hi,med,low. 1 strip of each per kit.

From the manual:
*These pieces of foil are thick, and as the manual says, 'razor sharp' on the edges. They recommend work gloves.

*To minimize fringing of fields, do not create sharp corners. When bent corners are necessary, keep the bend radius as large as possible.

*Take care not to bend and re-bend the material. It can become work hardened and lose its shielding effectiveness. Create your design first (per Geoff's post), then form your shield.

*When covering a cylindrical object, overlap the foil by 3/4'' (why Geoffrey says go around 1-1/2 times). Seal using masking tape or adhesive backing the length of the seam. Make the first 2 seams 180 degrees apart, with the next seam 90 degrees from the second.

Thanks guys. I'm receiving your emails now.


****Other members not on this thread yet. I'll repost a new offer in several days. The price won't be that much, but I'm gonna make it enough to get an overage to support TGP. Will post total cost plus postage, etc. and total amount received when we're done. Gene

[gsf]

Sorry, guys. EMAIL back on. Wasn't aware it was off.

[John Hurtt]

Looking forward to this, thanks! Email sent!

[fuzzyguitars]

email sent!!!!

[cubba65]

Email sent....
what an awesome guy!!!

GENE RULES!

[gsf]

SNAG-
I pulled the sheets out of the package to discover DOUBLE the amount of medium permeability foil, but NONE of the low permeability - which we absolutely need. Mushield is taking care of it as we speak, but I'll only be able to ship to you guys when those sheets get to me. SO SORRY -I was psyched too. Let you know ASAP. The envelopes are sitting here, addressed and ready!!!!!!

BTW - there's a couple guys on my list that posted in time for this that haven't sent me addresses or the need for a kit. Go ahead guys - there's a kit set aside for you.

[gsf]

I was gonna send the same size strip to everyone and let them trim to size. This is impractical for you guys, 'cause the measurements I have are in mm's and this stuff is not the easiest to work with. SO, EMAIL ME AGAIN with whether you need the halo or stack of dimes and I will send you the specified strips. The BLACK HALO inductor needs a longer/wider strip than the RED STACK OF DIMES inductor. Any other brands than Teese should tell me and I'll send enough material, but it will be up to you to cut down to size.

[gsf]

I'm headed to the Post office . Mushield, though nice, wants me to send the entire package back and will re-ship an entirely new kit.

[LordRiffenstein]

I was wondering if any of you guys with good technical skills would do some sort of photo-guide about how to use the shielding once you received your kit. I think it would be a great addition to this thread, making it excellent for the archives and it will help out those with less technical skills :D

[cubba65]

Originally posted by gsf
I'm headed to the Post office . Mushield, though nice, wants me to send the entire package back and will re-ship an entirely new kit.

Maybe the packaging dep't. should make their employees wear Mumetal coated helmets, keep out the harmful rays of the flourescent fixtures (reknown memory zappers).

:D

[muddy]

GOOD call, lawdy!!! i was thinkin' the same thing mah'self!


ml

Originally posted by LordRiffenstein
I was wondering if any of you guys with good technical skills would do some sort of photo-guide about how to use the shielding once you received your kit. I think it would be a great addition to this thread, making it excellent for the archives and it will help out those with less technical skills :D

[fuzzyguitars]

What a bummer!

More wait!

No worries though.

what is the one that comes in the rmc 3 le?

fuzzy

[gsf]

halo - got you down for that.

[John Hurtt]

Just a nudge to keep this current. BTW, I have the RMC3 LE also!

[gsf]

Oh-tay, Panky!

[fuzzyguitars]

any news or updates?

thanks

fuzzy

[gsf]

Mushield Shipped new kit today (from New Hamp.) . Should be here Thursday, maybe tomorrow. My schedule is such that I will do pretty well getting these cut and out in Fridays's mail. That is my intention. So, basically a week delay from my original hopes. Thanks for hanging in there guys. You have all showed remarkable restraint. I appreciate that. Gene

[John Hurtt]

Originally posted by gsf
Mushield Shipped new kit today (from New Hamp.) . Should be here Thursday, maybe tomorrow. My schedule is such that I will do pretty well getting these cut and out in Fridays's mail. That is my intention. So, basically a week delay from my original hopes. Thanks for hanging in there guys. You have all showed remarkable restraint. I appreciate that. Gene

Gene,

We are the one's thanking you for hooking us up! :dude

[gsf]

The mushield just got here this afternoon. Was expecting it yesterday, when I would have had the time to see what I was dealing with . I've been cutting and measuring, etc. I've made thicker post card material envelopes to hold the kits inside the mailing envelope. This doesn't give me as much comfort sending it through the mail as using some type of small plastic case, which I'm going to seek out now. These will be out by MONDAY, I promise.


Because of the sharpness, though, would each of you send an email stating you are receiving requested material and remove any liability from Gene Ford? This would give me great comfort. Also, if you have kids, don't let them get the mail when this comes. I'm wrapping it like a mamajama, and have taken every precaution,so please.....a disclaimer is now necessary. sorry

Here's my list of recipients. jpig,peacock72,muddy,HHB,DerekMinnich,LordRiffenst ein, Plexihead,ShawnPurcell,IanHurtt,PlaybyTone,cubba65 , and fuzzyguitars. SteveMiller, I'll contact you soon with a price. (like Monday).

You are the ones I would like a 'no liability clause' email from. Thank you guys for your patience and understanding. g

[fractal]

Hi Gene,

I JUST ordered my RMC3LE, and then came across this thread. This kind of bums me out, but I'll wait until I get it to see how noisy the pedal is in my situation. Do you think you will have any more material? I might want to get some. If you anticipate having some extra, you can private message me with the cost.

Thanks,
-Garrett

[LordRiffenstein]

Originally posted by fractal
Hi Gene,

I JUST ordered my RMC3LE, and then came across this thread. This kind of bums me out, but I'll wait until I get it to see how noisy the pedal is in my situation. Do you think you will have any more material? I might want to get some. If you anticipate having some extra, you can private message me with the cost.

Thanks,
-Garrett

Where did you find the LE? I thought they were sold out. I have a friend looking for on!

[fractal]

Hi LordRiffenstein,

I got what I think was the last one at Willie's Guitars (http://www.williesguitars.com/index.cfm?sector=user&page=detail&prodID=243) . You can try them and see, but they said they ordered heavy last year, and the wahs were trickling out. The salesman claimed he only had one left.

You can look at Teese's dealer list page (http://www.realmccoycustom.com/DEALERS.htm) and see if there is one left anywhere else.

Good luck,
-Garrett

[shawnpurcell]

I am receiving mushield from Gene Ford and I remove from him any liability of harm that may occur to me working with this material!

Shawn Purcell

ps. Thanks Gene!!! Great meeting you last night!

[gsf]

Hi guys - All kits were shipped Sat. morning of the first batch ( the guys listed on my last post). Just follow the printed directions and we'll probably have great results. I haven't had time to do mine yet, but maybe by next week...............

To everyone else reading this thread, the offer for the remaining mushield that will be sold, will be posted on the Dealer's Emporium by Wed. Afternoon at the latest. All info needed by me will be on that initial post, as well as pricing, estimated turn around time etc. I'll also shout out on this thread when it opens.

Steve M, Randy K, and Stu P: I'll send you an email re: your orders.

This has truly been a pleasure overall, mainly because all you guys have been so great, and good to get to know a little more.
Shawn Purcell and I found out we live near each other in Nashville through this thread, and last night, after a gig, this trio I play with went to hear another friend finish up his gig. We walked by another band that was taking a break and I recognized Shawn from his web pics - So we got to meet serendipitously. Great guy - and if you haven't heard his playing yet, get thee to his website. Scottl also posted some shawn clips a couple of weeks ago. He's really awesome.

[gsf]

Also, gotta report on one liability release I got. " ... for any injuries incurred by me or my cat......." I thought that was good enough to share. Thanks guys.

[meterman]

Very cool of you to do this Gene! I missed the early thread but have an LE with halo and a older RMC3 with SOD so I'll be watching for the notice on the Dealer Emporium....thanks

[LordRiffenstein]

Originally posted by gsf
Also, gotta report on one liability release I got. " ... for any injuries incurred by me or my cat......." I thought that was good enough to share. Thanks guys.

DAMN, I forgot to mention the cat, not used to it yet as we only have it for about 3 weeks.

[dosmun]

I have a RMC3 with SOD and an RMC3/RD with halo and they are both very quiet.

[fuzzyguitars]

got the kit gene!


can't wait to try it out



looks like it might be a tricky to do though

I hope I don't cut myself too bad that I wont be able to play!

[gsf]

That's why the gloves are a GOOD idea, even if it's a bit clumsier.

[gsf]

Mumetal kits available for sale in the Dealers Emporium as of 3/23.

[fuzzyguitars]

I got to try it out and installed the numetal kit into my rmc3 le last night.

It aint pretty, but it sure does cut down on the noise considerably.

Most notably, it is much less sensitive to being right next to power supplies and is much less microphonic.

over all installation wasnt too hard either.

like i said, it aint pretty though!

I tried it side by side with my un modded picture wah and the difference is like night and day.

i cant wait to do the same for my picture wah!


thanks again Gene!


fuzzy

[muddy]

hmmm.... i still haven't received my kit here in bklyn. how did you ship'm? sig required?


ml

[John Hurtt]

Originally posted by muddy
hmmm.... i still haven't received my kit here in bklyn. how did you ship'm? sig required?


ml

Probably just the mail service, I haven't gotten mine yet either on the West Coast.

[peacock72]

Got mine a couple of days ago. Thanks very much Gene! Hope to try it out today.

[gsf]

Can't figure the postal service. They must have gone postal..... All kits were mailed at the same time from the same P.O. (Sat. a.m.)

Already had a confirmed West Coast reception.
Dunno............................................. ..........give it 'til Fri. , actually Thurs. night I'll check again. I was wondering if some P.O.'s scan for various shipped materials, etc.

For the people who got theirs, was the packaging intact? I was pretty sure the strips were safe and well contained. No chance of tearing thru, etc.

[gsf]

fuzzy is our 1st successful recipient. I've been told it ain't purty.
Thanks for the report fuzzy!

[gsf]

muddy - just parcel post in a regular envelope. + a little more than a stamp. Let's hear it for strapping tape!

[gsf]

Those darn guitar/wah playin' postal carriers, knew the envelope felt 'just right'.

[gsf]

Going out tomorrow: Myron, fuzzyguitars, EL34(5), cubba65, stu42(2), meterman (2), and fractal. Thanks guys.

[meterman]

No, thank YOU Gene! :)

[Tone]

Are all Teese wahs noisy? Or does it just matter on what's in your signal chain? I'm getting worried about ordering a Picture Wah now.:)

[meterman]

Originally posted by fuzzyguitars
I got to try it out and installed the numetal kit into my rmc3 le last night.

It aint pretty, but it sure does cut down on the noise considerably.



Hey fuzzy, did you cover just the round part, or all around the gooped up square part of the base of the inductor too? Thanks

[gsf]

My rmc3 (older, red Stack o D's) has a tiny resistor running right beside the base - couldn't fit the layers if we had to. It's just the round part, why the DISCS are to be cut for the top. If there are contacts on the base, separate them with clear tape from the metals. I still won't get to mine 'til next week.

[LordRiffenstein]

Can someone post pics from the installation or when the installation is done?

[muddy]

i've got two words for those about to rock...DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the mu is no joke!!! my wheels of fire wah, for the last 9mos. or so just decided it was gonna hum at the low end, and at subway levels, making it impossible to use the volume pot in boost mode. NOT ANY MORE!!!! it is dead silent quiet & gone! and the process couldn't have been any easier! you don't need pix, trust me. gene has cut the foil for you if you've told him at ordering time whether you have a halo or the stack o'dimes. you don't even REALLY need to wear gloves if you're slow & methodical. one of the keys is to pre shape/bend the start of every layer AND have your sticky tape ready. i bent the innermost wrap over the top of the circles to hold them in place, & then covered the inducter & sheilding with clear packing tape, cut proportionally. ezy-peezy! if you are accident-prone, use gloves, but make sure they're slim; bulky gloves WILL increase the klutz factor!

but doubt you not! the solution is HERE!!! this stuff really works as advertised!!! lowering the noise floor to almost zero results in a wof wah with murderous bottom end, & the fattest, widest quack in the universe of wahs!


ml

[MarkyMark]

yeah, Mu- on the WOF is da bomb.
All Teese owners should try this stuff out!
MM

[Geoffrey]

Hi Everybody,

I'm really happy to hear that everyone is having the same favorable results I had with the mu-shields. As previously stated, the finished product is not pretty, but it works like a mutha. I've been chasing this problem for quite a while and am relieved that I found the soulution and was able to share it with all of you through Gene. Sorry it took so damn long to find the solution.

Thanks for all of your input and support. I'm always trying to make a better product.

Peace, Love, and Wah,
Geoffrey

[gsf]

Now that Geoffrey has spoken, let me say that without him, we would have never been able to do this. The design of the strips and method are all his contribution. We'd have been left not knowing how much to give each guy, then each guy would have 'come up with' his own design (NOT!) - a veritable mess. Thanks Geoffrey! Peace, Love, and Wah back at ya.

muddy - glad yours arrived. Rock on.

[Myron Stratis]

Originally posted by gsf
Going out tomorrow: Myron, fuzzyguitars, EL34(5), cubba65, stu42(2), meterman (2), and fractal. Thanks guys.

Thank YOU Gene! I honestly cannot believe how nice you are! :) I am waiting for my kit, so is installation very difficult??? How much time did it take you to finish it?

[shawnpurcell]

Thanks Gene,

got my mu-shield materials!!! You are the best for doing this for the gear page forumites!

Soooo, who's going to post a step by step pictorial :)

Hey Muddy, what type of tape did you use??

Are we supposed to put doublesided tape right on the inductor and then wrap our first layer??? How does the mu-metal stay in place??

Don't want to F%^& this up so any advice would be VERY appreciated!!!

Thanks again,

Shawn Purcell

[muddy]

hey shawn, i used clear packing tape, which i cut into strips of the appropriate size. i highly recommend pre-cutting the tape, too; the mumetal wants to spring open as you're trying to hold it in place, like a wound spring. also, have a very thin screwdriver, nail file, whatevahz to tuck the strips in between the inducter & close components. you don't want to bend or crimp them, as they supposedly lose effectiveness if you do. i also pre-bent the beginning of each strip, just before wrapping, around a finger in the shape of the inducter (about enough to cover half to 3/4's), to make it easier to start the wrap. it's a tight space, & you don't want to damage any of the nearby components. it helps to put a strip of tape on the start of the strip before you wrap. it all sounds a bit more precious than it actually was, & it only took 15 minutes to do, at most. you WILL have overlap at the top (you'll fukk up the strip if you try to trim it length-wise!), so i just bent the 1st inner layer of the thinnest material over the top of the circular pieces to hold it in place, & THEN taped it over the top. it ain't goin' ANYWHERE! i hope this helps...


ml

[Tone]

So what's the verdict? Everyone like the results? Does it change the tone at all? Oh, would this be considered a mod that voids your warranty?:)

Thanks!

[muddy]

it is a MAJOR breakthrough!!! now i'm thinkin' my strat (single coils!)! this stuff is AMAZING! & since geoff had a hand in the instructions, i'm sure he'll be honoring his warranty...


ml

[Geoffrey]

Hi Everybody,

Not to worry. Adding the shielding will not alter my warranty.

Muddy - Oh yeah, mu-metal will do worlds of good for any EMI issues in anything. If a Strat is mu shielded properly, it should be relatively stone quiet. The tough part is always figuring out where and how to put the foils.

Peace, Love, and Wah,
Geoffrey

[fuzzyguitars]

I don't think that the installation will take a step by step tutorial.

Just do like muddy says and use a pair of pliers to pre bend the strips which are already perfectly cut by Gene for the black halo inductors.

I personally just rolled them into a cylinder and used clear tape to hold em in place, and used a little more tape at any spot where there may have been some exposed wire that it may touch.

I didnt even cut the little squares. All i did was just bend the corners down so that it was round and fit in the cyldinders and just staggered the pieces so that it would be shielded circumferentially and put a little top on the top.

The fit is tight and is further held in place by the wah plate cover anyways.

Works great.

Just got my 2nd pack in the mail and going to do up my picture wah tonight!


Thanks again Gene!!!!

[Myron Stratis]

I just got my Mumetal, thanks Gene!!! I am ready to install, one last question: I have the black hallo inductor. I can see that it is a "cylinder on a square with cropped edges" shape. Do I wrap aound Mumetal to the cylinder only (leaving the lower square part of the inductor) or I wrap it from the square bottom? Thanks!

[John Hurtt]

My package arrived a couple days ago. It was mailed along with everyone else's so it looks like it took a sidetrip to Post Office Hell. I'll be putting this together this weekend, should be cool!

Thanks Gene!

[gsf]

Everybody - Just wrap the ROUND part of the inductor - The circumference pressure and tape is all it needs - DO NOT PUSH/force the RINGS DOWN INTO the base of the inductor, or wrap the square base.

[Last Nerve]

Any left? :(

[gsf]

Plenty left.- I'm officially in the black, guys. TGP gets any profit at this point --- this is actually been fun, etc. One thing that is gonna end up getting taken out---------which I did not foresee- but because I'm set up as a biz both at paypal and at the dealer's emporium, is that I will be paying income tax on everything past this point (just Federal - no state tax in TN)

Many thanks to MR. Teese and MR LINY for their expertise and help and for everybody being easy and great to work with. g

[Tone]

Can someone who has successfully done theirs, post of picture of the finished product? I'm still a little confused about it, and scared I'll mess something up.:D

[meterman]

Got mine too Gene, many thanks. Haven't gotten around to it yet though...

Related question: what do you guys think about the FoxRox wah retrofit, any reason not to use one? Someone recently said it changed the sweep of their Pic wah, anybody else notice a change in sweep or anything else when you're NOT using fuzz/distortion?

[Great King Rat]

Any pictuers? Do new 2005 teese wah has this mod included?

Thanks

GKR

[gsf]

meterman - I have the Foxx retrofit and the pedal sounded the same to me - my tech added a VERY SLIGHT boost on the tiny internal adjustment-

That being said - the only NEEDED reason that I saw in the Foxx literature was for its use with GERMANIUM fuzzes - at least to maintain full sweep spectrum through heavy dist. I haven't tried it thru my fuzz factory yet, but soon.

[fractal]

I just did my RMC3LE with the stuff. I can't say that I notice a difference in noise, because I never had a huge problem. I did it for preventative measures.

That said, it took a while. I had to cut the long strips lengthwise, becuase I couldn't fit the cover of the wah back on when I left them the length that I received. Could I have gotten a kit that was for the Stack of Dimes inductor?

I don't have any pictures yet, but might be able to take some later. It doesn't look that pretty, but I don't think you can mess it up too badly.

-Garrett

[gsf]

The stack of dimes is the smaller width (10mm) and length (85mm). I wrote that those w/ SOD's need to trim them down. Is it possible that you have a SOD's inductor? With one exception, I only mailed out the larger kit.

[fractal]

Hi Gene and all,

My measurements were of the top, round part of the inductor. This width measured right about 10mm (not the entire inductor, but only that top, round part), but I have the RMC3LE, which should be the halo inductor.

Now I'm wondering which inductor I have...

Argh,
-Garrett

By the way, thanks for the kit Gene. It arrived no problem - just took me a week to get time to install it.

[LordRiffenstein]

I finally got around to install the mu-metal yesterday and I LOVE it. Only on high gain I have a bit of noise but that's because of the power supply on my board. The best news is that I can run my wah again ON the board and not having to put it on the side :dude Gene, thanks a bunch for this!!

[gsf]

You guys are more than welcome.

Frac - another way to tell the inductors is: ALL the halos are black. The stack of dimes were mostly red, some blue.

[fractal]

Phew!!

Thanks Gene, mine is definitely black. I'm now wondering if I installed the kit correctly, because I definitely had to trim it down to fit on the cylindrical portion of the inductor. Oh well, it seems to still be quiet. I'm tempted to put it next to a large transformer, and put it to the test!

Thanks again,
-Garrett

[Douge]

Gene,
I ordered 2 Mu-metal kits from you about a week ago. How much longer will it be??

Thanks,
Douge

[gsf]

Went out Wed. with some others that were ordered in the last week. g

[Douge]

Thanks Gene

[Tone]

Hey guys I have a quick question.

If I turn my amp up to good hefty volume, then kick on the wah and leave it say, in the middle, then not play anything and just listen, there is a very noticeable hiss going on. Would the shielding help with this type of noise, or only noise you get from being around other transformers, power supplies, or pedals?

I'm not too sure if it does anything the tone when playing, but I'm just anal and want to have it perfect. :D

Thanks!

[gsf]

I'm not sure. The mumetal is great for the RFI and 60 cycle type stuff. Yours sounds like normal wah behavior. Does it increase or decrease depending on proximity to other things?

[Tone]

I tried moving it around, but It's more or less the same each time. I guess it is typical wah behaviour like you said. :)

Anyone find this hiss to hinder their playing or tone in anyway? Or does it not mean a thing once you start playing and rocking it back and forth?

[Tone]

So, does anyone happen to have a picture of what the finished product looks like? :D :p

Also, did it help you guys with the noise you get from a loud amp when you turn the gain or volume up, or just outside transformer in the way type noise?

Thanks!:dude

[gsf]

increased gain make all the noise louder. If there is a lot of lower frequency hum as you increase overdrive, etc. you can probably get it quieter. What wah do you have?

[gsf]

Got a kit back in the mail yesterday, postmarked 4/13. Weird. I notified the buyer and resent.

That got me thinking. I need to hear from anyone who ordered and paid, but did not receive. By my calculations everything sent should have arrived by now.

This was fun guys. Amazingly I got all costs covered, but orders have stopped. I was hoping to get a few more sold to send something to our Forum, after all the talk.

[fuzzyguitars]

Hey GSF

I got mine and they worked great.

I can't believe that no one else ordered any sets.

Did you try posting on harmony central?

fuzzy

[devbro]

Count me in for a set ( if you've got any left). My RMC3 is pretty noisy. How much $$$ do you need and did anyone ever come up with a picture?
:)

[gsf]

fuzzy - I'm in the black now and am keeping it in this forum - I have some more sets, but not tons. Thanks, though. I wasn't complaining that the orders stopped, just surprised. But this current rash of posts already has 5 new requests! Perfect.

devbro - email coming.

[Last Nerve]

gsf,

I'm guilty. Been so busy with work and life that I hadn't gotten around to getting the info from you and sending you some dough. I would love to see a pic or two as well, as I'm somewhat of an IDIOT, and would hate to screw up my RMC3LE.

ANYWAY, please email me the info at Cammshaft23@aol.com

Thanks!

[BLOK182]

I received my shielding kit today, thanks a lot Gene! Gonna try to install the kit tonight, and I'm gonna try to make some pictures of that, it might help some people, I hope. I'm really curious for the result, I got to play a gig tomorrow and another one saturday, would be real cool if my RMC3LE (#141) wouldn't hiss anymore, especially in my already quite noisy dual amp setup.

[gsf]

Last Nerve - email sent. Thanks

BLOK182 - You'd be doing eveyone a favor by taking/posting those pics. Thanks. (Almost everybody who orders mentions how helpful pics would be).

[Tone]

Originally posted by gsf
increased gain make all the noise louder. If there is a lot of lower frequency hum as you increase overdrive, etc. you can probably get it quieter. What wah do you have?

gsf,
I have the PW. Most of what I'm hearing is just hiss when the wah is engaged. I heard EMI type noise when I had it sitting directly in front of a little practice amp, but maybe not as bad as some others have described earlier.:)

[fuzzyguitars]

Originally posted by Tone
gsf,
I have the PW. Most of what I'm hearing is just hiss when the wah is engaged. I heard EMI type noise when I had it sitting directly in front of a little practice amp, but maybe not as bad as some others have described earlier.:)

I think that is just normal wah noise.

the easiest way to check would be to borrow / put another wah in the chain and A/B between the two.

the mu metal just blocks out the power supply hum and RF noise. It won't block noise that is inherent to the wah itself.

The only way you can do that is with a noise gate. The boss NS 2 will work great for that! Put it after the wah!

[gsf]

yeah, what fuzzy said.

[BLOK182]

Sorry it took so long guys, but due to my final exams I didn't find the time to start shielding my RMC3. This afternoon I gave it a go, and I must say, it sounds easier than it is, because the space around the inductor's so little! Here are some pics!

The wah, the tape and the kit Gene send me:

http://img149.echo.cx/img149/7530/dsc006914nh.jpg

The inductor as it was:

http://img149.echo.cx/img149/6015/dsc006925xf.jpg

First layer of mumetal:

http://img149.echo.cx/img149/6132/dsc006933vr.jpg

Mission completed:

http://img149.echo.cx/img149/3316/dsc006971ox.jpg

I hope I did it the right way, and I hope these pics can help some of you Teesers out!

[gsf]

Fantastic BLOK! Great shots. That's what it looks like. Just don't push straight down on the windings. the wrapped tension is plenty. Tape over the top if you want.

[BLOK182]

Thanks Gene! I tried the shielded wah tonight, and really, results are amazing. Combined with the noisegate of my Engl Powerball my ultrahighgain setup was just.....dead quiet:dude Only my classic Gibson pickups of my '74 LP Custom provide some feedback, but now it's all controllable and I don't have to be ashamed of my setup hissing and buzzing all the time I use overdrive. I'm happy, tomorrow's the next gig:dude

p.s. I did use tape on top, but I took this picture without the tape so it's a bit more clear to everybody:)

[Melvinj]

Kind of sucks that a $315 wah makes more noise than a $59 Dunlop doesn't it? Kind of sucks even more that Teese even advertised that this specific wah has even more EMI filtering than the RMC3 has, one of the reasons I purchased the wah, and it still makes more noise than the garden variety wah. I need to get me some MU metal before it's too late.

[Geoffrey]

Hi Melvinj,

Sorry you're not satisfied with my RMC3LE. The mumetal cans I now use were not available to me until very late last year. That was long after the LE was sold out. And yes, the LE does indeed have more RFI filtering than the standard pre-2004 RMC3.


Peace, Love, and Wah,
Geoffrey

[gsf]

Melvin - I'm in Nashville, too. I got the kits. Email me. Gene

[Melvinj]

Oh, i'm satisfied with the sound of the wah itself, please don't get me wrong, it's just that damn noise though.

[gsf]

The reality is that no inductors have the filtering that mumetal gives. Geoffrey is FIRST to incorporate it into his models. I applaud him. We here at the forum brought the noise problem up in many brands of wahs. Geoffrey and one other person (who is an engineer and wah player, but not a wah builder) had already discovered mumetal and immediately set out to incorporate this solution. This is the transition period where people are tweaking all the wahs built before this solution was discovered. This is a positive thing all the way around - I will take the sound of an older Teese inductor any day over the Dunlop, but fortunately the solution is available for a $10 donation to the Gear Page.

[Melvinj]

Geoffrey is FIRST to incorporate it into his models.

I applaud him as well. I can't wait to fix this problem. I have the world's greatest wah pedal and it will soon be in tip top performance ready to go. I must add that there really is not a terrible amount of noise unless you use huge gain (Engl SE) as I unfortunately do.

[Last Nerve]

Got my Gene!
MUCH THANKS!

The pictures helped ALOT...but this really is a PITA!
I've got big hands, the tape kept breaking, sliding off the metal. Once you get the first two layers on...that third layer is the thickest, so its the toughest to tape down, keep bent, and make room for around the inductor.

SO....this might help others....
I wrapped the first layer around, taped it..then TOOK IT OFF.
I taped the inside of it, to keep shape, then taped the next layers over it, all while it was off the board.
I crimped the edges of the tops, and made them fit tight on top.
Then, AS A WHOLE, slide the "cover" over the inductor and taped it on and taped the sides.
The end product is the same.

AND...WOW....it works! VERY COOL!
I didn't think the LE wah could be any better.
Now I just need the FoxRox mod! ;)

[gsf]

Glad it's working out. The wah is now so quiet, I'm even able to tweak my contour/sound to a greater degree (RMC3).

[JKoeth]

Hey Gene,

I'd like a kit. How can I order one from you?

jamiekoeth@hotmail.com

[gsf]

Email sent. Thanks. g

[alderbody]

couldn't this shielding be done with copper tape connected to ground?...

[gsf]

On page one, Geoffrey is quoted on Lord Riff's post that mumetal is the only thing that works. I have copper sheeting and didn't bother to try it, because I trust his judgment. There might be SOME improvement with some copper or any other 'pickup noise' solution, though I don't know how much. The mumetal definitely takes care of it.

[alderbody]

ok, i know mumetal is supposed to be the ultimate in magnetic field shielding...

but i would be very interested to A/B the two methods.

After shielding with mumetal, is there any treble loss?

I mean, if this shielding thing is similar to pickup coil shielding, there should be some treble loss.
Does this happen?
Has anyone played their Wahs long after shielding to identify any tonal variations?
(after the honeymoon period)

OK, i know that the Wah inductor is not a pickup, but...


anyway, i have a fulltone inductor in my home made wah. (not a Teese...)

btw, i have it mounted with a screw passing through the center.

Should i shield mine, too?

is there any left?... (if yes, how can i get some?...)


ok, no more questions... :D

[gsf]

alderbody - I have some left - sent free by me for a $10 gift directly to TGP (to Brian Scherzer - use 'Make a Donation' button on TGP's main Page. )

I have a Teese RMC3 and I did adjust it after the mumetal - never thought that the tone was different (no ability to do a true a/b), but without the noise, I thought I could tweak it better.

You have a point about high end loss, though, since it's shielding , it's just that to me it would be more difficult to evaluate the tone change. Maybe compare full treble position on the wah with each method. Wahs seem more variable than a fixed pickup position, but any experimentation you can do would be appreciated.

[gsf]

I can email you what I would need to get one to you, if you pm your email to me.

[alderbody]

Originally posted by gsf
I have some left - sent free by me for a $10 gift directly to TGP (to Brian Scherzer - use 'Make a Donation' button on TGP's main Page. )

i guess i'll have to give you my home address for that...

i'll email you ;)

[alderbody]

Originally posted by gsf
I can email you what I would need to get one to you, if you pm your email to me.

email sent ;)

[waylay00]

Sorry to bump this old thread, but I'm also experiencing major noise issues with my Teese RMC3. I've gone through two replacements, and they are all noisy. I've tried all combinations of effects, amps, locations, etc. Nothing gives...

The noise really only occurs when I start to play anything remotely distorted.

Thanks,
Wade

[vinceman]

Same with my Picture Wah (the best wah I ever owned anyway)...

Does anybody know where it is possible to find mumetal to shield the wah?

[tzamosti]

So, is this noise still occuring in the newer Fuzz Friendly models of the Pic Wah? Has he added the mumetal shielding?

[bandofthieves™]

So, is this noise still occuring in the newer Fuzz Friendly models of the Pic Wah? Has he added the mumetal shielding?

Have you thought about asking Geoffrey??
Great idea Huh? I knew you would like it..
grteese@aol.com

[vinceman]

My picture wah is not fuzz friendly, and it has not the mu-metal shieding...

I've sent a mail to Geoffrey.

[The Everlove]

Have you thought about asking Geoffrey??
Great idea Huh? I knew you would like it..
grteese@aol.com

hey man... after reading several of your posts, you need to cut the sh*t. seriously. All you had to say was "Hey, the best person to ask would be the builder himself, here's his email." you can't display sarcasm on the internet, so excuse me for assuming.

[redsbar]

Sad when a self proclaimed "wah guru" can't make a wah as quite as a cheap Dunlop or Vox

[bandofthieves™]

hey man... after reading several of your posts, you need to cut the sh*t. seriously. All you had to say was "Hey, the best person to ask would be the builder himself, here's his email." you can't display sarcasm on the internet, so excuse me for assuming.

Actually Ryan if I wanted you to make my post for me I would have sent you a PM.I am not being hateful.I am not being mean.Atleast I replied to his question.Did you??? If you have a problem with me do it in a PM or take it up with a mod.
I am very easy going.But I am my own Man...Peace

[vinceman]

Ok, I sent a message to Geoffrey, that gave me the address of the guy that was selling the mu-metal retrofit kits.

I sent him a message, but his mail box is unreachable...

So, back to my previous post : does any of you know a way to find this retrofit kit?

[The Everlove]

My bad...


Vinceman, look back a page or two. There was a guy who picked one up and was selling some leftover pieces.

[tzamosti]

BandofThieves...your quick response, albeit a little sharp, is appreciated. I have Geoffrey's email, but sometimes would rather get a TGPers assessment without having to email a builder and bother them. Plus, I like the back and forth that goes on here.

And Ryan...thanks for sticking up for me. But BandofThieves can take care of himself, he is "his own man." Whose else would you be?

[bandofthieves™]

BandofThieves...your quick response, albeit a little sharp, is appreciated. I have Geoffrey's email, but sometimes would rather get a TGPers assessment without having to email a builder and bother them. Plus, I like the back and forth that goes on here.

And Ryan...thanks for sticking up for me. But BandofThieves can take care of himself, he is "his own man." Whose else would you be?
I can't use the emotion things when I am on my webtv unit..I surf forums with it.Rarely surf forums with the Dell..So don't be too quick to read in to my posts. wink,wink,smile,smile,thumbs up,etc.....
So what did ya find out about the new Picture Wah? I thought you had a new WOF??
I can tell you that my new picture wah is very quiet as is the new RMC3..But I never had any issues with the older ones either..Geoffrey's wahs just keep getting better and better....Keith

[tzamosti]

So what did ya find out about the new Picture Wah? I thought you had a new WOF??

I actually sold the WOF...wasn't an exact match for me. How different is the Pic Wah? I think I want to get the Pic Wah...no knobs to fiddle with. Either its a great wah sound or not. I want to give Teese one more try to win my love and affection. If not, well...there is always another.

Don't worry...all is good.

[Derelict King]

Ok, I sent a message to Geoffrey, that gave me the address of the guy that was selling the mu-metal retrofit kits.

I sent him a message, but his mail box is unreachable...

So, back to my previous post : does any of you know a way to find this retrofit kit?

Count me in on this. I have always loved my RMC3-LE but hated the noise...ended up retiring it for a Bud Wah. If I can get one of these kits I'd be thrilled. Seeing it on the self sucks :(

I'll email the man myself but I still want to ask, does anyone know if Teese can be pur$uaded to do the mod himself or is he not offering that service?

DK

[shakti]

+1...when I disocvered this "fix" a while ago when I joined TGP it seemed like the last set had been sold. Does anyone still have mu-metal parts left to sell? IIRC it was only being sold in large sheets, and one guy volunteered to cut it into small parts and send out to people (I'm so lazy I can't even read this whole thread right now... ) :eek

[drolling]

+1...when I disocvered this "fix" a while ago when I joined TGP it seemed like the last set had been sold. Does anyone still have mu-metal parts left to sell? IIRC it was only being sold in large sheets, and one guy volunteered to cut it into small parts and send out to people (I'm so lazy I can't even read this whole thread right now... ) :eekWell, I read the whole thing, as I did have an interest in replacing my Bud & hot-rodded VOX wahs w/a Pic. Geoff said that multiple layers of THREE different types of mu-metal are required to adequately shield the inductor against RF interference.

I read elsewhere that his supply of mu-metal has long dried up and he's using a different inductor these days anyway. Apparently, he's been thru' 6 manufacturers for this component over the years!

Both my wahs are dead-silent, BTW, and deliver all the classic tones. I'd consider swapping out your inductor for one w/o noise issues. I've replaced stock Crybaby parts w/red & yellow Fasel RIs (from Dunlop) and it's a really easy install. A lot less complicated than the fix outlined in this thread..

[vinceman]

I've sent a message to GSF (who by the way seems to be the man Geoffrey told me about, and that I couldn't reach at the mail address he gave me)...

No answer so far...

I can't believe that there is no way to shield the inductor...
I don't want to swap mine, as I love the sound of my PW...

[drolling]

I've sent a message to GSF (who by the way seems to be the man Geoffrey told me about, and that I couldn't reach at the mail address he gave me)...

No answer so far...

I can't believe that there is no way to shield the inductor...
I don't want to swap mine, as I love the sound of my PW...Yeah, but as important as it is, the inductor's only a small part of the whole *picture* - That's why I gave away my Fasel-loaded Crybabys. I would have had to redo or replace the entire circuit board & maybe the pot as well, to get the sound I was looking for..

Teese's using new inductors in his current production wahs. Couldn't you have yours upgraded?

[vinceman]

Message send to Geoffrey.

[esoteric pete]

man this thread has survived and is LOOOONG!!

goin on almost 3 yrs w/ my pic wah and its Q-U-I-E-T!

thanks geoff!

[gigster]

I called Geoffrey Teese yesterday to ask him about the fix. He told me to e-mail Gene for a kit. I do like the wah, but it's to bad the fix is left up to the public.
Greg

[LordRiffenstein]

My RMC3 limited edition has been treaded with the mu-metal but it still was a noisy bugger. Tried a PW and same deal. I love the tone from them but could not stand the noise so I sold them and am now using a totally silent Silvermachine. :dude

[gigster]

LR, what brand is a Silvermachine? Thanks for any reply.
Greg

[Derelict King]

I called Geoffrey Teese yesterday to ask him about the fix. He told me to e-mail Gene for a kit. I do like the wah, but it's to bad the fix is left up to the public.
Greg

Now that's a real bummer. All that cash for the product and we have to fix it ourselves :(

Oh well, no sense in whining...I guess it is what it is...like the other guys I need to decde if I want to fix it or dump it.

Vinceman, please keep us in the loop, bro!

DK

[Ted James]

Tesse goes WAY out of his way to support and help his customers. I've recieved emals from him after asking random questions in this very forum. He also make a spectacular and well built product. SO you have to do a mod yourself - either suck it up or just pay your local repair man to do it.

[LordRiffenstein]

LR, what brand is a Silvermachine? Thanks for any reply.
Greg

German made, it has an auto on/off that works AWESOME

http://www.silvermachine.de/

[bandofthieves™]

I called Geoffrey Teese yesterday to ask him about the fix. He told me to e-mail Gene for a kit. I do like the wah, but it's to bad the fix is left up to the public.
Greg

Hi Greg,How old is your RMC wah? What model is it? Did you buy it New? The reason I ask is you said your wah had a hiss problem.I don't see the kit helping that at all..If I knew for sure which RMC wah you had maybe I could offer some suggestions.This thread is very old,and the problem brought up here has long been resolved by design. Keith
Yes, these are all good tunes! What I get when I do Jimi, is a lot of hiss with my Teese wah through my bassman reissue. That can't be right? No "high-jacking" intended.
Greg

[Ted James]

Posted by Gigsteron another thread - the first one he started (sorryu dont know how to mov equotes from thread to thread)
"Hey Jason, thank you for your help. I have read a lot about this pedal and it was all good. Fultone is as good as it gets!
Greg"

[meterman]

I've got an old RMC3 in the aluminum case and I've never noticed it being particularly noisy. I even bought some of the stuff from Gene way back when but never put it on, I should....

[vinceman]

So, after some mails from Geoffrey, it seems that the best way to solve my problem is to keep my PW far from the power supplies on my board.

I currently have a noisy power bank (soon to be replaced by a PP2) and the power supply for my Whammy 2.

Geoffrey doesn't have spare pieces to sell, and replacing the inductor could be a pita since the layout of the board seems to have changed...

In a way, I think it's too bad that there doesn't seem to be any other way to solve my problem, but I've got to say that Geoffrey answered to all my mails really quickly (and we all know that he is one busy man) and seems to be a really nice and helpful person.

I guess next step will be : buying a PP2... Does any of you have one for sale to a french guy (even a 110V model would be nice)?:p

[gigster]

For the record. I did not mean to show Mr. Teese any disrespect what so ever. In fact I told him that in a long phone conversation. I just made a statement.
Greg

[gigster]

:jo Keith, hey thanks for the concern. My picture wah is an 04' model with the FoxRox fuzz mod. I just discovered the volume trim pot on the mod part. I never did read the retrofit paper that came with the wah way back when. Boy, do I feel like a dumb_ss. A small adjustment makes a big difference. I still would like to wrap the inductor with a medal kit if one could be had.
Greg :NUTS

[bandofthieves™]

:jo Keith, hey thanks for the concern. My picture wah is an 04' model with the FoxRox fuzz mod. I just discovered the volume trim pot on the mod part. I never did read the retrofit paper that came with the wah way back when. Boy, do I feel like a dumb_ss. A small adjustment makes a big difference. I still would like to wrap the inductor with a medal kit if one could be had.
Greg :NUTS

Your welcome..Have fun..:)

[waylay00]

So is there ANY way to get the mumetal kits?

[ilcaccillo]

I would love to buy some Mumetal also.

Maybe we could do a group buy.
Or does anyone know a cheaper supplier?

it would be nice that stores like Small Bear could offer small kits of Mumetal. They could buy in big quantities and make some profit selling it in smaller quantities for users.

[rever]

Hey Gene,

I'd like a kit. How can I order one from you?

reverweb@hotmail.com (jamiekoeth@hotmail.com)

[ScottB]

You can get nickel-iron magnetic shielding alloy from McMaster Carr:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#nickel/=8veyzf

They're not real specific about the composition, so it might be slightly less permeable then "mumetal" but probably fine for what you're talking about here.