Fastest gun in the West. And East. And South. And North...

[HeyMrTeleMan]

Wow! This defies the imagination.

And the laws of physics...

http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1231247832/Fastest_Gunman_Ever

Man!

[Mark Ray]

DAMN!

[yomama]

its a kind of prodigy thing..

[Glowing Tubes]

Funny. "Speed of light":roll
Dude, like yourself much? :banana

[rybass]

How the hell did that cameraman have the balls to be on the business end of that gun between two targets?? I would have shat myself.

[rah3]

I want to be as far away from that guy as I can get!

-RAH3

[hk45acp]

Bob Munden? 6 shots plus reload 6 shots in 2 seconds. That man is sick.

[HeyMrTeleMan]

Funny. "Speed of light":roll
Dude, like yourself much? :banana

I thought he was saying that. I re-watched it and realized we saw the flash of the gun and the gun was holstered before the flash ended, and well before we heard the bang.

That was amazing!

I loved his claim that no one in the wild wild west had a gunfight like in the movies. If it's in the movies, then it had to have happened, right?

You're answer depends on how the rest of my life goes...

:rotflmao

[iaresee]

It would be very cool to see the Time Warp guys film him like they did Mike Mangini on drums: http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/time-warp-speed-drummer.html

[Frankee]

http://i.tfster.com/tfs/images/galleries/full_011c99b1f12ec523c4f67c152225885a.jpeg

[bluesdoc]

DAMN!

What Mark said!!

There's another speed shooter I saw on one of the DTV stations, name escapes me, who could fire his M1911 as fast as a machine gun, ie, ~600 rounds/sec. (until the mag was empty, of course). Hack shooters like me are impressed :eek:

jon

[oldschoolguy]

I have seen this fella in person. Truly amazing. Two dead balloons really sounded as one shot. I never saw him miss. He also had a collection of guns used in Hollywood films and he makes to sell single or double action .45s that are similar to the one shown.

[fetishfrog]

Fast draw is amazing, and that guy is really really amazing.

How the hell did that cameraman have the balls to be on the business end of that gun between two targets?? I would have shat myself.

Most fast draw competitors use rubber or wax bullets when competing, so as to minimize the risk of injury. In fact, I am pretty sure there are exactly 0 fast draw competitions in the US that allow live ammo. Still, a wax bullet at 10 feet will leave a mark for sure.

[Scott Peterson]

What freaks me - even more than the speed of that guy - is at 3:00... look where the camera man is. WTF?

That's just insane.

[mark norwine]

What Mark said!!

There's another speed shooter I saw on one of the DTV stations, name escapes me, who could fire his M1911 as fast as a machine gun, ie, ~600 rounds/sec. (until the mag was empty, of course). Hack shooters like me are impressed :eek:

jon

Remove the disconnector pin, and it *IS* a machne gun. One trigger squeeze, and all 8 come out very fast.

[conundrum]

I'm trying to find the video of the History Channel program where either this guy, or some other famous one, fans all six shots in some incredible time, but I can't find it.

[bluesdoc]

Remove the disconnector pin, and it *IS* a machne gun. One trigger squeeze, and all 8 come out very fast.

No, he used a two hand technique, fanning the trigger with the free hand index finger.

jon

[DaveF]

another speed demon: uisHfKj2JiI

[fetishfrog]

Freakin impressive stuff.

Here's one I dig, not a speed demon, but puts 5 shots on a 9" square at 300 yards with a handgun shooting open sights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31EEgrQOh04

[trisonic]

another speed demon: uisHfKj2JiI

That's Ray Michalik right?
Totally nice guy.

Best, Pete.

[2 Loud 4 You]

There's also Badlands Bill Oglesby (sp?), he was on Time Warp.

[jumpnblues]

My wife says I'm quick too. :huh


Tom

[hk45acp]

My wife says I'm quick too. :huh


Tom

Fast as you are I doubt you could get off 2 in less than a second:rotflmao

[Irreverent]

That's Ray Michalik right?
Totally nice guy.

Best, Pete.

Jerry Miculek. Really nice guy!

[Bro Blue]

That is impressive, but shooting a Peacemaker with blanks is not the same thing as shooting one with live ammo. I doubt he would be near that fast dealing with recoil. None the less, it is impressive.

I hate to sound like sour grapes, but fast shooting like this is kind of like sweep picking. It's good for a few ooh's and ahh's but the time you spend perfecting it could be better spent drinking beer. There is a certain amount of technical proficiency required and I respect that, but people need to understand there is little to no practical use in it.

[Peppy]

I want to be as far away from that guy as I can get!

-RAH3


Yeah, the badge is a bit much.

[HeyMrTeleMan]

That is impressive, but shooting a Peacemaker with blanks is not the same thing as shooting one with live ammo. I doubt he would be near that fast dealing with recoil. None the less, it is impressive.

I hate to sound like sour grapes, but fast shooting like this is kind of like sweep picking. It's good for a few ooh's and ahh's but the time you spend perfecting it could be better spent drinking beer. There is a certain amount of technical proficiency required and I respect that, but people need to understand there is little to no practical use in it.

Yeah, my motto is "Shoot slow, the bullet will catch up..."

[Macleod]

We had a long discussion over on another forum I belong to about Bob Munden. A bunch of the peorple in the discussion are gun fanatics.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/487682-fastest-gun-ever.html






It was incongruous. There, sitting on an overturned 10-foot boat in the deepest wilds of Alaska, was Bob Munden, who swears he is the fastest man ever to draw a gun. Fast draw, he says, "is the only sport in the world that functions at under one second at all times." But at the that moment, fast counted for nothing and slow counted for everything. Munden was waiting for a bear. Waiting. The seconds slowly turned into minutes, the minutes turned glacially into hours, and the hours simply refused to pass. People who don't believe that time can stand still should come bear hunting in Alaska. Only a loon on the lake put an occasional sound into the silence. It doesn't get much slower—or quieter—than this.
Which made it the perfect counterpoint to the normal racket that surrounds Munden, created in part by the repeated high-speed crack of guns—especially his single-action Colt .45—but principally by his mouth.
At exhibitions in Wasilla, 30 miles from Anchorage, Munden's wife, Becky, had repeatedly introduced him as "holder of all world records in fast draw since 1960." Well, no. He holds no official world records. One man who does is world traditional fast-draw champ Bob Arganbright of Wood River, Ill. Says Arganbright, "There is no man alive as good or as fast as Bob Munden tells you he is. Anyway, at no time did he ever hold all the world records."
Says Munden, "Yes, I did."
Another doubter, Ernie Hill, 33, of Litchfield Park, Ariz., is in fact the world-record holder for fast draw, with a time of .208 of a second, squeezed off in 1982 in Fort Worth. He is apoplectic in his criticism of Munden: "None of his claims are true. He was never the world champ at anything."
The problem is exacerbated because fast-draw records are at best spotty. Dick Plum, chairman of the World Fast-Draw Association, in Tiston, Calif. says that Munden never held all the records—likely, not any of them—and certainly holds none now.
Still, Munden tells people that documentation for his fast-draw feats is in the Guinness Book of World Records. They are...if you can find the 1980 edition. And at that, Guinness hedges its bets on page 625: "Bob Munden, well-known claimant to the title of 'World's Fastest Gun'...." Guinness omits the entry in subsequent editions. Bill Jordan, a magazine writer on the sport, says of Munden, "He does recommend himself highly. But I am not impressed."
Munden, 47, who lives in Butte, Mont., was asked how many shows he did in the past year. "About 40," he says. When even Becky raised her eyebrows at that, Munden reduced the number to 36. In fact, he did 24 last year, 21 the year before. "Basically, I'm doing shows every weekend," he says. Basically, he's not. During a three-day appearance at Nye Frontier Ford in Wasilla, Munden boasted, "Nye sold more cars on Friday when I was there than they did in the previous four months." No. In fact, Nye sold 16 vehicles on that particular Friday; over the previous four months, general manager Rocky Spear says, Nye sold about 500 vehicles—but 16 still is about four times the daily average, and you will not hear Spear complaining. Munden claims to have won 3,500 fast-draw trophies, 2,200 of them first-prize awards; nobody in the sport believes that one, and Munden says he doesn't know where all those trophies are now. To his credit, however, Munden frequently says, "Bull makes the world go around."
But above all there is the suspicion surrounding The Shot that Munden says—trust the source—makes him the World's Fastest Gun. It occurred in Arcadia, Calif., at Huntington Ford on June 4, 1972. Right off the bat, that ought to be suspect: Who believes anything heard at a car dealership? Anyway, Munden says that he touched off The Shot in the walk-and-draw-level competition, in .15 of a second—"the fastest shot ever," he swears. Hill says flatly, "It never happened. Period." Hill says it takes .16 simply to react to the timer before any drawing, aiming and shooting. In Munden's home there's a trophy that commemorates The Shot. The engraving reads: ALL TIME WORLD RECORD INTERNATIONAL FAST GUN LEAGUE. Arganbright says, "The sport does not recognize the International Fast Gun League. It was organized by Bob [Munden], run by him, and he holds all the records. It is not kosher." So whom do you believe, Munden's report on what happened out amidst the Mustangs and Fairlanes or virtually everyone else in the sport?
So messed up is the sport that no one is sure exactly when—sometime in the early '60s—all its records were lost. Yes, lost. Just like car keys. And so the decision was made to start establishing world records all over again. It's Munden's assertion that he was holder of the lost records: "Just because we don't have written proof does not mean that they did not happen." However, no source is willing to verify Munden's claims. In the late '60s and early '70s, the records subsequently set after the loss were "retired" because of the switch from using mechanical timers, which recorded in hundredths of a second, to digital timers, which can time a draw in thousandths of a second. Times were substantially faster and far more erratic under the mechanical timing method—which is how The Shot was recorded.

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[trisonic]

Jerry Miculek. Really nice guy!

Ha! That's the one! Met him at a S&W demo in High Point NC. Very humble about his talents.


Now who the hell was Ray?

Thanks for correction I'm getting terrible with names...Howzabout: Thell Reed?

Best, Pete.

[trisonic]

OK, I'm probably the only one to remember Thell on here:

Here's a link to the real masters:
Ray Chapman, Eldon Carl, Thell Reed, Jeff Cooper and (yes, the Weaver) Jack Weaver.

http://www.thellreed.com/html/the_original_combat_masters.html

Best, Pete.

[Randaddy]

Wow! That was awesome!

Sure, he talks himself up quite a bit, but that's part of the fun.
Hey, he's running with what he has. I say, "Go man!"

[Bro Blue]

Jeff Cooper was a living gem and is sorely missed.

[baxen]

No, he used a two hand technique, fanning the trigger with the free hand index finger.

jon
I believe its done by keeping your trigger finger stiff and static and rapidly pushing the weapon forward over and over. Its not possible to fan a 1911 auto. You better have a strong grip and watch out for hammer bite! The camera man was not in much danger, the shooter was using blanks, its the hot powder residue that hits the balloon.

[Bro Blue]

I believe its done by keeping your trigger finger stiff and static and rapidly pushing the weapon forward over and over. Its not possible to fan a 1911 auto. You better have a strong grip and watch out for hammer bite! The camera man was not in much danger, the shooter was using blanks, its the hot powder residue that hits the balloon.

Yes, you rock the pistol slightly and allow recoil to do the rest. It's like bump firing a pistol. Also, there would be no need to fan a 1911 as the slide would take care of the hammer. Trigger pulls under three pounds are the norm for this kind of stuff, which I do not recommend.

[amigo30]

I don't know what's more impressive: The amazing talent he has or the monstrous ego he has..

[iaresee]

That is impressive, but shooting a Peacemaker with blanks is not the same thing as shooting one with live ammo. I doubt he would be near that fast dealing with recoil. None the less, it is impressive.

I hate to sound like sour grapes, but fast shooting like this is kind of like sweep picking. It's good for a few ooh's and ahh's but the time you spend perfecting it could be better spent drinking beer. There is a certain amount of technical proficiency required and I respect that, but people need to understand there is little to no practical use in it.
Are you talking about the first video posted? Didn't he switch to real bullets when he was shooting the balloons? Or was that just fast air from the blanks that popped them?

[90wreck]

I saw this guy shoot years ago and I was very impressed.

[LHanson]

Are you talking about the first video posted? Didn't he switch to real bullets when he was shooting the balloons? Or was that just fast air from the blanks that popped them?

I saw one of these guys, back around '77. He said he was shooting wax bullets, propelled by just the primers. Don't know if that's factual, or still reliable. It also makes one wonder how accurate you need to be to break a balloon at 8 feet with a (probably melting or fracturing) wax bullet. Their speed, however, is beyond reproach.

[DC1]

What freaks me - even more than the speed of that guy - is at 3:00... look where the camera man is. WTF?

That's just insane.

HAS to be a robot camera. Known as PTZ and controlled with a joystick.


dc

[Scott Peterson]

HAS to be a robot camera. Known as PTZ and controlled with a joystick.


dc

In 1987?

[John Coloccia]

re: cameras and blanks

At close range, blanks will surely do damage, and can kill you, in fact. At long range, they're harmless. They can surely pop a balloon at a few feet. You don't have to be terribly accurate. As long as the camera man was a reasonable distance away, he was perfectly safe. Think about what happens to the shotgun wad. You could practically catch it when it's out a ways.

The guy's fast. I'm always impressed by his display. Fastest ever? Whatever. Do you really believe the woman get's sawn in half? It's a show. Enjoy the spectacle.

[schmidlin]

In 1987?
Hmmm...we only put a man on the moon 18 years earlier...

Stranger things have happened.

[DC1]

In 1987?

Well, there were early studio ones out there, but that was clearly not a pro video.

Good point.

So, the guy must either be shooting blanks (which are still dangerous) or wax bullets, which can also be dangerous.

Or the camera op is nutz...

Wouldn't be the first one.

dc

[crzyfngers]

What Mark said!!

There's another speed shooter I saw on one of the DTV stations, name escapes me, who could fire his M1911 as fast as a machine gun, ie, ~600 rounds/sec. (until the mag was empty, of course). Hack shooters like me are impressed :eek:

jon

bob munden. his wife is scary too.

[Serious Poo]

The interviewer sounds a LOT like Swedish Eagle, an ex-KROQ and now a SeriusXM electronica DJ.

[QuickDraw]

Bah, that guy isn't that fast.

[HeyMrTeleMan]

The whole thread (and part of the reason I started it) was based on an old visual joke circulating around in the "olden days", when we (and I speak collectively here:D) would claim to be the fastest gun in the West.

We'd use our index finger, hold it up in the "cocked" position, do nothing, and then ask the Jokee... "Wanna see it again?"

Ha ha ha...:rotflmao

Our guy here is the actual embodiment of that joke. Truth is stranger than fact...:D