Superdelay Tapping Question

[iAmCam90]

In tape mode is it only possible to tap 1/4, 1/8 and 1/16? or can I do dotted 1/4 and dotted 1/8th too?

[almesy]

In tape mode is it only possible to tap 1/4, 1/8 and 1/16? or can I do dotted 1/4 and dotted 1/8th too?

First part is correct - 1/16, 1/8 and 1/4 yes, but no dotted.

[iAmCam90]

so if i want to do dotted 1/4 or dotted 1/8 and tap, I have to do it through tap mode and cant do it in tape mode or misc mode?

[almesy]

so if i want to do dotted 1/4 or dotted 1/8 and tap, I have to do it through tap mode and cant do it in tape mode or misc mode?

Correct, as far as I recall. The Tap setting is the only one that specifically does the "dotted" rhythms - the others modes that do tap tempo do the straight 1/4, etc.. The tap setting does still sound very good, and you can still add the modulation and HP / LP filtering.

[Blakemore Effects]

I don't remember if this is true, but I remember someone telling me once if you tap on the 4th beat and 1st beat of a measure, that it should give you the same rhythm as a dotted eighth. I'm rusty on my music knowledge, so I dunno if that's true or not, but no you can't have it automatically tap dotted eighths for you in tape mode, unfortunately.

[todd richman]

I need to follow this thread.

[k-wakefield]

I don't remember if this is true, but I remember someone telling me once if you tap on the 4th beat and 1st beat of a measure, that it should give you the same rhythm as a dotted eighth. I'm rusty on my music knowledge, so I dunno if that's true or not, but no you can't have it automatically tap dotted eighths for you in tape mode, unfortunately.

I hope this helps...I have also found it quite frustrating that the Superdelay doesn't do dotted eighths on the tape mode, but knowing this, you'll at least be able to get that sound without a dotted eighth mode.

Dotted eighth note rhythms are pretty simple to tap in manually when you think about the theory.

Anytime you have a note with a dot after it, you add half that note's value to its length; therefore, a dotted eighth note can also be thought of as lasting for three sixteenth notes (eighth note = 2 sixteenths + 1 sixteenth for the dot).

The way I punch in a dotted eighth note rhythm is to find the count (1, 2, 3, 4), and punch in a sixteenth note triplet over that time; so you're punching in on 1, the "a" of 1, the "&" of 2, the "e" of 3, et cetera.

Hopefully this will help you with the issue of not having a dotted eighth mode with the tape setting!

[todd richman]

k-wakefield-are you saying that you tap a triplet (three quick taps) on each of those accents? In other words hit the tap button 3 times as a triplet on the "&" of 1, the 2 and a third set of triplets on the "e" of 3?

[k-wakefield]

k-wakefield-are you saying that you tap a triplet (three quick taps) on each of those accents? In other words hit the tap button 3 times as a triplet on the "&" of 1, the 2 and a third set of triplets on the "e" of 3?

No, you're punching in on each of those beats that I listed just once...not tapping in between. So you would punch on 1, the "a" of 1, the "&" of 2, the "e" of 3, et cetera.

You are leaving out the spaces in between, so, you would not punch anything on the "e" or "&" of 1, or the 2 and "e" of 2, et cetera. Then (typically) you will play eighth notes after your rhythm is punched in and you will get a bouncy, sixteenth note feel.

It's definitely a little bit of a learning curve, but well worth it! I find that once most players understand what's happening with this technique, they feel more comfortable playing with with it. I do a lot of praise and worship and this sound is a staple (sometimes to a fault) in that type of music, but you'd be surprised how many guys can't tap this rhythm in unless they have a "mode" for it. Just give it a little practice! Hopefully I explained everything clearly enough for you to work on it!

:D

[digitalkettle]

Picture paints a thousand words:


Dotted: 1 e & a 2 e & a
* *

Triplet: 1 & a 2 & a
* *


Easier to be accurate at lower tempos of course...especially getting the triplet right.
n.b. I only annotated the minimum requirement of two taps.

[k-wakefield]

Picture paints a thousand words:


Dotted: 1 e & a 2 e & a
* *

Triplet: 1 & a 2 & a
* *
Easier to be accurate at lower tempos of course...especially getting the triplet right.
n.b. I only annotated the minimum requirement of two taps.

Haha, that does look a lot better! ;) I tried doing that, too, but it wouldn't line up right. Thanks for helping me out and doing what I could not!

[digitalkettle]

Haha, that does look a lot better! ;) I tried doing that, too, but it wouldn't line up right. Thanks for helping me out and doing what I could not!

No worries...'code' tags are underrated :banana

[Blakemore Effects]

I hope this helps...I have also found it quite frustrating that the Superdelay doesn't do dotted eighths on the tape mode, but knowing this, you'll at least be able to get that sound without a dotted eighth mode.

Dotted eighth note rhythms are pretty simple to tap in manually when you think about the theory.

Anytime you have a note with a dot after it, you add half that note's value to its length; therefore, a dotted eighth note can also be thought of as lasting for three sixteenth notes (eighth note = 2 sixteenths + 1 sixteenth for the dot).

The way I punch in a dotted eighth note rhythm is to find the count (1, 2, 3, 4), and punch in a sixteenth note triplet over that time; so you're punching in on 1, the "a" of 1, the "&" of 2, the "e" of 3, et cetera.

Hopefully this will help you with the issue of not having a dotted eighth mode with the tape setting!

Wow. There is definitely a bit of a learning curve with this. My foot does not want to cooperate! Haha. Thanks for the advice though. We'll see if I can get my foot to keep up with my brain now. Whoever thought part of practicing guitar would be practicing how to keep certain tempos with your foot? Haha.

[k-wakefield]

Wow. There is definitely a bit of a learning curve with this. My foot does not want to cooperate! Haha. Thanks for the advice though. We'll see if I can get my foot to keep up with my brain now. Whoever thought part of practicing guitar would be practicing how to keep certain tempos with your foot? Haha.

Go figure! You'll get it though, just give it some time.

:)