Ferrari take a dump in the bed again

[BryanMatthews]

Remember F1 2002 , rubens barrichello leading all the way and then gets a call to let schumacher pass him and take the victory, well, today in germany , massa leading from the start and gets a message "fernando is faster, please confirm you understand , which translates to "sorry felipe, you gotta LET alonso past you and take the win "

and thats exactly what happened, you should have seen massa`s face on the podium. alonso is a spoilt brat , full stop. ferrari were fined $100k for cheating and surprisingly alonsos "victory" stands. after the farce that happened in 2002 , we have it all over again in 2010 with same team, ferrari , on both occasions.

with the heritage behind ferrari, its shameful this kind of shit has to happen, a truly shameful day for formula 1.

[Boobala]

It was Rubens Barrichello not Felipe in '02.

"Team Orders" have always been, and will always be, a part of racing whether the rules officially allow it or not.

[BryanMatthews]

It was Rubens Barrichello not Felipe in '02.

"Team Orders" have always been, and will always be, a part of racing whether the rules officially allow it or not.


yup, it was barrichello, my mistake.
the team orders thang has got to be stamped out, that race was massa`s.

[matchless]

not that I agree with it,but Ferrari pays the bills and I would think they did not want a repeat of the red bull stupidity. they wanted Alonso to win for points standing and image-plus he is a whining,self-absorbed driver-i.e.-perfect for Ferrari

[rivaeast]

not that I agree with it,but Ferrari pays the bills and I would think they did not want a repeat of the red bull stupidity. they wanted Alonso to win for points standing and image-plus he is a whining,self-absorbed driver-i.e.-perfect for Ferrari

They want alonso to finish higher but they are more interested in the constructors championship.... massa leads alonso i believe in the standings.... team orders are shameful.... and i'm a huge ferrari fan.

[ACfixer]

The only passing that takes place in F-1 is fixed? Go figure... :boxer :D

[TwoTubMan]

My team is now the official buffoons of racing.

[Bluzeboy]

. massa leads alonso i believe in the standings....

I think you have that backwards.. Alonso was leading Massa in DC points.

[traviswalk]

I think you have that backwards.. Alonso was leading Massa in DC points.


Correct, and leading him pretty handily after having his number all season. While I thought the Austria move in '02 was justified (granted, big Schumi fan here!), I didn't like today's especially when all has been said about the ban on team orders following 2002.

And they are not in the clear, still have a date with the World Motor Sport Council...

[TwoTubMan]

Ferrari needs to install a baby bottle in Alonso's helmet. Maybe then he could make it more than 10 laps without throwing a tantrum.

[Boris Bubbanov]

Ferrari needs to install a baby bottle in Alonso's helmet. Maybe then he could make it more than 10 laps without throwing a tantrum.

Give me a break. If Alonzo had his way, he'd have preferred fighting all the way to try and win - and take the chance he'd take himself and his teammate out if things did not go as he might hope.

The team orders is always about the team - drivers want to win straight up, for real. That's who they are.

The last driver I can actually think of who would rather win easy than win in a convincing fashion would be Nigel Mansell. And I'm not even altogether sure in his instance. Fernando is a very very proud guy - he's probably angier about the order about than Felipe is.

I'm kinda thankful Felipe is with us and we can even be having this discussion. That was a wicked hit he took only a year ago this week.

[cpike]

Hard to imagine them telling Alonso to pull over and let Massa by if it was the other way around...

[Sui_City]

The truth is that most of the teams this year have exercised team orders in one way or another. You'd have to get rid of absolutely any possible "cover story" for team orders. "Fuel saving mode", "hold station after last pitstops", only allowing a new part to be raced if there is enough for both drivers, etc, etc, etc.

[Boobala]

The truth is that most of the teams this year have exercised team orders in one way or another. You'd have to get rid of absolutely any possible "cover story" for team orders. "Fuel saving mode", "hold station after last pitstops", only allowing a new part to be raced if there is enough for both drivers, etc, etc, etc.

This will never happen. The only way to prevent "team orders" is eliminate multi-car teams. Agian... never going to happen.

[BryanMatthews]

Hard to imagine them telling Alonso to pull over and let Massa by if it was the other way around...


and do you think alonso would obey that order, not on your life.

alonso is a childish spoilt tosser who needs a good leather belt across his ass and sent to his room. what happened yesterday shows felipe is about the team, same couldnt be said about alonso.

[BryanMatthews]

The only passing that takes place in F-1 is fixed? Go figure... :boxer :D


2010 has still been a killer F1 season though, apart from the yawn feast processional opener in bahrain . yesterdays race leaves a sour taste in the mouth though.

[j.s.tonehound]

I'll stand up for Alonso. He's faster than Massa with more points and more hope of winning the championship or at least getting into the mix than Massa will ever be. Sure "Felipe, Baby" had a run at the title a couple years ago but only because Hamilton made such a meal of getting over the line. Alonso beat Schuey fair and square when Schuey was still competitive.

How can you possibly abolish team orders? Allowing your two cars to get mixed up with each other is suicide - Red Bull in Turkey shortly almost followed by McLaren in Turkey (Hamilton didn't think for one second he would have to 'race' Button and he nearly ran him off the road re-taking the lead - check Whitmarsh's reaction and listen to the radio message to Button within two corners telling him to go into fuel saving mode). The only reason Red Bull and McLaren even entertain the idea of 'letting their drivers race' is because there isn't enough of a quality gap between them.

All championship forms of racing are about the 18/19 races a season put together, not individual races. All this hoo-ha is short sighted and narrow minded.

Alonso is a racer, his infuriation and dummy spitting is justified if not dignified.