Has anyone paired Alnicos with non-Alnico in a 2x12?

[Ud Reks]

Thinking of buying an Alnico to pair with a G12-65 in a 2x12.

I wonder if anyone has had good results trying this.

[stvnscott]

I do it all the time. I have a 212 with an AlNiCo Tone Tubby and a ceramic Tone Tubby and love the thing. I used to have one with a Celestion Blue and G12H30 and loved that combination too. Then there's the Red Fang with a Private Jack or a Cannibis Rex...

[deeval]

I use a 1959 P12N and a 60, Vibratone cerimic in my 60,s pro reverb and it sounds just great,nice and clean and gives a real nice smooth distortion tone when driven hard or when a OD pedal is kicked in.

[Cirrus]

Yep, the combo tends to work well - the alnico gives you the grind and crang, the ceramic gives you definition and clarity.

[dakotajones]

I have a Blue Alnico paired with a Heritage Greenback 55 Hz...love that combo.

[blackba]

I am planning on do this for my Vox Ac50. Currently running 2 Celestion anni G12H30's. I have a scumico on the way. I plan to mix that with the G12H30 to start with and will probably end up with an H75/Scumico mix...

[stvnscott]

In addition to the other great combos mentioned, I like a P12N mixed with a C12K. Great combination.

[Jd3]

I do it all the time. I have a 212 with an AlNiCo Tone Tubby and a ceramic Tone Tubby and love the thing. I used to have one with a Celestion Blue and G12H30 and loved that combination too. Then there's the Red Fang with a Private Jack or a Cannibis Rex...

+1 - I use a Tone Tubby with a G12H30 and it's a rockin' combo ... full bodied, round, but overdrives very nicely for rock.

[neville5000]

yep, 'tis teh awesomeness.

[Billion81]

The TT Alnico/Ceramic combo is awesome with the right head.

That combo doesn't work well with all amps so... Bassman, Vibrolux, Super reverb circuits is where those seem to shine best..NOT a good combo for D circuits.

[jkg]

my Soho 2x12 combo came with a blue and G12H30. fantastic combination.

[Ud Reks]

I plan on adding an Alnico to the 2x12 that I use with my Kinglsey Tonebaron. It has G12-65s now.

Thanks for the replies

[big jilm]

I use a Gold and a Vintage 30 in a 2x12" with a Marshall voiced head (Reinhardt Storm) and it sounds really good to me.

[zzmoore]

Our Vox runs through a 2 x 12 with a 50 watt Weber Blue ceramic and an Emi Red Fang. That is a nice sounding cab.
But you are only talking about magnet material, not mixing fire and gasoline......
The speakers don't care.

[Tonesmiths]

There are a few builders who love the G12H30/ Blue combo for their amps. %13, Dr. Z, 65 and Morgan to name a few. These are all builders who love the delicate balance of VOX & Marshall voicings. Alnico= VOX chime and Ceramic= Marshall grind.

[mountain blues]

I do it all the time. I have a 212 with an AlNiCo Tone Tubby and a ceramic Tone Tubby and love the thing.

Yep.

[PeeCee]

The TT Alnico/Ceramic combo is awesome with the right head.

That combo doesn't work well with all amps so... Bassman, Vibrolux, Super reverb circuits is where those seem to shine best..NOT a good combo for D circuits.

Yup. I learned this the hard way. A TT Alnico and a Ceramic in a halfback Mesa cab was very meh with my Eric Gales. And I love my TTs

One of my very favorite cabs is a Scumback/Scumnico mix in a Southbay convertible 2x12 cab. That cab works fine with D style amps...

This could've been the difference in cab, or it could have something do do with the speakers.

[ianb]

Yup. I learned this the hard way. A TT Alnico and a Ceramic in a halfback Mesa cab was very meh with my Eric Gales. And I love my TTs

One of my very favorite cabs is a Scumback/Scumnico mix in a Southbay convertible 2x12 cab. That cab works fine with D style amps...

This could've been the difference in cab, or it could have something do do with the speakers.

My favorite cab (made by TT) used to have a celestion Gold/G12H mix, now replaced with a Scumnico/Scumback H75 mix. Love it!

[wwit]

Lots of high end builders and players use alnico's mixed with non-alnico speakers. Lots of possobilities can be created that way. Its a great way to get the character of both speakers at once.

Im building my own cab next week and have a Emi Red Fang and Wizard goin in it. It should sound killer with my AC15C1.

[the-tone]

I personally don't care for mixing speakers, unless maybe in a 4x10 or 4x12, where you can get a more natural sounding balance/mix. I use to do this for a while in a 2x12 and I hated how my tone changed when I moved around on stage from left to right. There will also never be the same sweet spot for different speakers, so i.e. treble will have to be set at a compromise that works for both speakers. It sounds good on paper and I do see why people do it I guess, but personally I did not care for it.

[Ginglymus]

I have an Emi Red Fang and Scumback H55 paired up in a divided 2x12, with one half open-back, the other closed. To my ears they compliment each other very well.

[Seegs]

Yep, the combo tends to work well - the alnico gives you the grind and crang, the ceramic gives you definition and clarity.

yep I would agree with this and add punch to the ceramic description...when you find the right mix the sum total actually sounds better than the individual parts...when I isolate the indivual speakers it does not sound as good as the mix of both speakers...

in my case its a Fane Alnico 12" and a 10" Weber Ceramic Blue Pup...the combo is just amazing...I would mic both live...

Chow,
Seegs

[rockabilly69]

Celestion Blue and a Greenback, sweetness and the crunch!

[amphog]

Will the Tone-Tubby H-Bomb mix work in a closed back cab? I have been told that the TT's work best in a open back.

[Macaroni]

I've done this many times, always with great results...

Fane AXA12 + EVM-12L
Gold + G12-65
Fane or Gold + Scholz

I don't have those speakers anymore. My current setup is a 100W WGS BlackHawk AlNiCo + EV SRO/12L Ceramic. I also pair my EV SRO/12 AlNiCo with the SRO/12L. These combinations are the best of any I've tried so far. I also have an EVM-10M, EVM-10L, both of which sound great paired with a Fane AXA10 AlNiCo (100W 10").

Although I tried most of those combinations in a 2-12, my current setup is a stack with the BlackHawk in the Forte 3D cab on top, and the EV SRO/12L in a TRM finger jointed Pine Thiele. I prefer purpose built 1-12s to a 2-12...

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k257/Macaroni108/DryStack-2.jpg

[Ud Reks]

I've done this many times, always with great results...

Fane AXA12 + EVM-12L
Gold + G12-65
Fane or Gold + Scholz

I don't have those speakers anymore. My current setup is a 100W WGS BlackHawk AlNiCo + EV SRO/12L Ceramic. I also pair my EV SRO/12 AlNiCo with the SRO/12L. These combinations are the best of any I've tried so far. I also have an EVM-10M, EVM-10L, both of which sound great paired with a Fane AXA10 AlNiCo (100W 10").

Although I tried most of those combinations in a 2-12, my current setup is a stack with the BlackHawk in the Forte 3D cab on top, and the EV SRO/12L in a TRM finger jointed Pine Thiele. I prefer purpose built 1-12s to a 2-12...

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k257/Macaroni108/DryStack-2.jpg

Great, this is for my Kingsley Tonebaron , so...

I have a couple Celestion G12-65s, and I like them quite a bit better for this amp than the ASW KT-70s I had. Don't get me wrong, I played the ASW's with other amps, but the G12-65s just bring out the sweetness in the Tonebaron. Why do you prefer the EVs over the G12-65s?

[shredtrash]

I do it in every multiple speaker cabinet I own. Best of both worlds!

[EastCoastRocker]

As far as the Ceramic/Alnico pairing,Count me in.

I have a ceramic SRO paired with an Alnico SRO,and an EV 12L paired with an Alnico SRO. Superb..
All depends on what you want as a final product, of course.

[Macaroni]

Great, this is for my Kingsley Tonebaron , so...

I have a couple Celestion G12-65s, and I like them quite a bit better for this amp than the ASW KT-70s I had. Don't get me wrong, I played the ASW's with other amps, but the G12-65s just bring out the sweetness in the Tonebaron. Why do you prefer the EVs over the G12-65s?

That's my Tone Baron on top in my pic! The EVs don't give any speaker breakup - they just deliver the message! I liked both cleans and OD better with EVs vs 12-65s. With cleans the 2 speakers are somewhat close, but with OD, the EV's character is more to my liking. It's a matter of taste of course.

[Ud Reks]

That's my Tone Baron on top in my pic! The EVs don't give any speaker breakup - they just deliver the message! I liked both cleans and OD better with EVs vs 12-65s. With cleans the 2 speakers are somewhat close, but with OD, the EV's character is more to my liking. It's a matter of taste of course.

Great info, thanks. I liked the EVs I had in a Carol Ann cab back when I owned the OD2-100. Did a little search for EV SROs. Wow, they are hard to come by. Nothing sold on EBAY in months. One junky one is up there now.

[Macaroni]

You can find SROs on eBay from time to time. The SRO/12 is the AlNiCo, 'Coffee Can' version, and the SRO/12L is the Ceramic version, which eventually evolved into the EVM-12L.

[jimny]

i got a custom mahogany cab loaded w/ eminence red coat private jack 12" and a jensen p10r paired w/ mesa rectoverb its a blend of clear highs and lots of bottom

[Spir4L]

In addition to the other great combos mentioned, I like a P12N mixed with a C12K. Great combination.

Did anyone try the P12N and C12K combination?

Is it a good one?

[pine]

Have an ASW KTS-70 and a Celestion Gold pair, sounds great to me.

[ianb]

Scumnico and Scumback H75, sounds wicked. Will also try Scumnico with KTS-70 when it arrives.

[FFTT]

All the time,

Currently sporting a Fane AXA12 with a Fane Medusa 150-C.

[shallbe]

Yes. Preferred for the music I play. Best of both worlds.

[gweeterman1]

Thinking of buying an Alnico to pair with a G12-65 in a 2x12.

I wonder if anyone has had good results trying this.

I actually have a alnico hemp with a 65 in a d style 2/12 with my Quinn Sdo and it really brought out the roar without loosing low end!
like billion81 said most might not like it in a d circuit but I was looking to take some of the smoothnes out and Marshall it a bit

[daveg777]

My 65' Gretsch Dual Bass Combo currently holds a 59' P12N and 65' C12N.

[neverrecover]

I have WGS Black N Blue Alnicos and Weber Blue Dog Ceramics in my Bad Cat 4x12

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/FATE413/speakers.jpg

[gigs]

I have a 4x10 cab with two alnicos and two ceramics (all Weber). Sounds great.

[Gearopenia]

Red fang 10 and V10. Not that this answers your question at all. But 10's sounds great

[StockRock]

Celestion Alnico Gold with JBL D120F in a Marshall open-backed 2x12. Great stuff.

[tele_jas]

The Blue/Greenback is a popular combination