Dave Mustains of Megadeth's bio....

[paris is burnin]

He's written his autobiography and it just came out ,anybody check it out yet.I'd love to buy it but 25 bucks :hide2

[Shnook]

Let me guess, he was an unhappy teen. Smoked pot and listened to 'black metal' and then bought LeVay's Satanic Bible. Got kicked out of Metallica. Started Megadeth. Had drug problems. Got sober and found God. Am I close??? ;)

[Kooshball]

thanks so much for the heads up!
i'm a big megadeth fan and i'm getting this tonight

man i really need to stay more up to speed on these kind of things

[CJReaper]

I read an excerpt from it in the new issue of Guitar World detailing how he auditioned for Metallica, based on what I read I'll pass. I think Dave's arm injury from a few years ago didn't happen from falling asleep in a chair the wrong way, but rather was a repetitive motion injury from patting himself on the back too much.

Cheers,

CJ

[guitarlifestyle]

Let me guess, he was an unhappy teen. Smoked pot and listened to 'black metal' and then bought LeVay's Satanic Bible. Got kicked out of Metallica. Started Megadeth. Had drug problems. Got sober and found God. Am I close??? ;)

You forgot the Megadeth lineup changes. Actually, I just finished the book last night, and it was a pretty interesting read. I was expecting him to blame everyone else for all of his problems, but unlike other high profile rock autobiographies, he seems to take responsibility for the problems he's encountered in his life.

[blood5150]

Let me guess, he was an unhappy teen. Smoked pot and listened to 'black metal' and then bought LeVay's Satanic Bible. Got kicked out of Metallica. Started Megadeth. Had drug problems. Got sober and found God. Am I close??? ;)


I know his father was never around, and when he was he was drunk and beat up everyone in the house, including Dave, his sister and his mother...

big reason why Dave ran away at age 15 and never went back...

[cvansickle]

I bought it on Tuesday and I'm still reading it. I like the first person narative of it.

[Shnook]

I hope my post was taken in jest. I was just trying to have some fun.. :bonk

[soulohio]

Dave Mustain is one of the top 10 most important American musicians in the last decade....in no particular order:

Josh Homme #1
Dave Mustain
Tweedy and Ryan Adams )tie)
Frank Black
Kurt Cobain

last 5 are wheels...

James Hetfield
Billy Corgan
Jack White
Maynard from Tool/Perfect Circle
Bradley Nowell-Sublime

[kristian]

I read an excerpt from it in the new issue of Guitar World detailing how he auditioned for Metallica, based on what I read I'll pass. I think Dave's arm injury from a few years ago didn't happen from falling asleep in a chair the wrong way, but rather was a repetitive motion injury from patting himself on the back too much.

Cheers,

CJ

Nice :rotflmao

[OllieDox]

I just finished it this week. It's a quick read. As far as the whole thing - it's...okay. It's very much centered about him, of course. He really still has a huge chip on his shoulder toward James and Lars especially. Throughout the book Dave comes off alternatively as bitter, positive, contradictory, arrogant, inspirational, and vulnerable.

It also seems that he was holding a lot back and not giving us all the details. I was really hoping for more details about the albums, wild tour stories, and dirt on other bands and there just wasn't much of that. It was mainly Dave bouncing around from rehab to rehab and of course, redemption ultimately.

I was pretty familiar with Dave's story (and Thrash in general) as well as knowing most of Megadeth's catalog. I could see a hardcore fan really wanting more. While it's no "The Dirt" or "Hammer of the Gods", it's worth picking it up from the library.

*Pretty amusing that the band's name is misspelled several times in the photo section.

[eschoendorff]

I bought it and a good friend of mine who is a counselor/therapist borrowed it from me and read it in one night.

Very cool book. Highly recommended, even if you aren't a metal fan.

[soundgardener]

I might check it out. The only thing that really pisses me off about Mustaine is that he still whines about being kicked out of Metallica in interviews and such. He's done soooo much without them, I can't believe he even still thinks about it.

[Two-Octave]

I hope my post was taken in jest. I was just trying to have some fun.. :bonk

Oh hell no T.

Can't be having you talking shit. Because you're a girl.....that's right....I said it.....;)

[Mikey2201]

I read this book and enjoyed it. I thought he was honest. I am sure he has resentment regarding James and Lars and who wouldn't even a little. Given previous interviews they laughed at Dave Mustaine all the time but when the shoe was on the other foot...

Give credit where it is due if you look at the writing credts on Kill'em All and Ride the Lightning Mustaine is on there alot. Megadeth may not have sold as many albums as Metallica but 25+- million is not exactly bad.

Just my 2 cents;)

[gassyndrome]

Dave Mustain is one of the top 10 most important American musicians in the last decade....in no particular order:

Josh Homme #1
Dave Mustain
Tweedy and Ryan Adams )tie)
Frank Black
Kurt Cobain

last 5 are wheels...

James Hetfield
Billy Corgan
Jack White
Maynard from Tool/Perfect Circle
Bradley Nowell-Sublime

The last decade? Cobain and Nowell have both been dead for going on 15 years or more right? Hetfields best moments are more like 22 years ago and Corgan hasnt done anything reasonable since the mid 90's...

[cbell2112]

Agree about the Metallica thing. I think those guys made a lot more money doing the same type of music and that is the only thing he can possibly be bitter about.

In my opinion, Megadeth's total discography is superior to Metallica's. Don't get me wrong, I love Metallica too but over the last 25 years Metallica lost me a little bit. Megadeth not as much.

[paris is burnin]

Broke down .... bought it's very very funny:D.Mustain fans buy,its worth it.Drugs drugs drugs and more drugs,wonder why this guyis still alive.Highlight for me ...him kicking/punching Chris Poland in the face in a limo.:boxer

[John Bell]

Let me guess, he was an unhappy teen. Smoked pot and listened to 'black metal' and then bought LeVay's Satanic Bible. Got kicked out of Metallica. Started Megadeth. Had drug problems. Got sober and found God. Am I close??? ;)


Damn.......what's the paypal ID? ;)

[Kooshball]

I just finished it this week. It's a quick read. As far as the whole thing - it's...okay. It's very much centered about him, of course. He really still has a huge chip on his shoulder toward James and Lars especially. Throughout the book Dave comes off alternatively as bitter, positive, contradictory, arrogant, inspirational, and vulnerable.

It also seems that he was holding a lot back and not giving us all the details. I was really hoping for more details about the albums, wild tour stories, and dirt on other bands and there just wasn't much of that. It was mainly Dave bouncing around from rehab to rehab and of course, redemption ultimately.

I was pretty familiar with Dave's story (and Thrash in general) as well as knowing most of Megadeth's catalog. I could see a hardcore fan really wanting more. While it's no "The Dirt" or "Hammer of the Gods", it's worth picking it up from the library.

*Pretty amusing that the band's name is misspelled several times in the photo section.

I agree with this. I think the guy is pretty arrogant and never much cared for his personality and the book reinforces that. A pretty lackluster biography

that being said he's a great musician and songwriter and i'd recommend it to any megadeth fan.

[Scottone]

In my opinion, Megadeth's total discography is superior to Metallica's. Don't get me wrong, I love Metallica too but over the last 25 years Metallica lost me a little bit. Megadeth not as much.

Not a big fan of either band, but I've seen them both live and preferred Megadeth.

I read a lot of rock star bios so will probably pick this one up.

[OldSchool]

I read an excerpt from it in the new issue of Guitar World detailing how he auditioned for Metallica, based on what I read I'll pass. I think Dave's arm injury from a few years ago didn't happen from falling asleep in a chair the wrong way, but rather was a repetitive motion injury from patting himself on the back too much.

Cheers,

CJ

I read that same article and it had the opposite affect on me. True he seemed to think he was the most talanted of them all, but I thought it was a very compelling read. I'll grab it on Amazon /used when I see a good one in the $10.00 range. I still have Johnny Winters I haven't started yet. Maybe I need to get my ass off here.........

[re-animator]

ten bucks says that at least 80 pages are about hammett.

[The Last Rebel]

ten bucks says that at least 80 pages are about hammett.
You have to admit, you can't exactly blame the guy. I mean, Metallica hires a guy with less than half of Dave's playing skill and none of his writing ability, then goes on to become one of the biggest metal bands ever. I'd be pissed too and I don't have near the ego Dave does.

[captain_bob]

Let me guess, he was an unhappy teen. Smoked pot and listened to 'black metal' and then bought LeVay's Satanic Bible. Got kicked out of Metallica. Started Megadeth. Had drug problems. Got sober and found God. Am I close??? ;)

Nailed it

[Kooshball]

You have to admit, you can't exactly blame the guy. I mean, Metallica hires a guy with less than half of Dave's playing skill and none of his writing ability, then goes on to become one of the biggest metal bands ever. I'd be pissed too and I don't have near the ego Dave does.

is mustaine really that much better than hammett?

i guess it's all opinion but i feel that hammetts solos really compliments metallicas songs and he adds a lot of feel to them. someone once said that they couldn't recall any memorable megadeth solo but could name tons of metallica solos that are 'catchy'

i guess i feel the same way.

[jazzandmetal?]

1. is mustaine really that much better than hammett?

2. i guess it's all opinion but i feel that hammetts solos really compliments metallicas songs and he adds a lot of feel to them. 3. someone once said that they couldn't recall any memorable megadeth solo but could name tons of metallica solos that are 'catchy'

i guess i feel the same way.

1. Better is matter of opinion, and mine is that he is a better player. We have yet to hear Kirks true self as he plays what he is told to play. What you hear on the albums is what James/Lars wanted on the album.

2. Of course they do. James, Lars and later on Bob wouldn't let anything on the album that wouldn't compliment the songs.

3. That person was probably a Metallica fan. I as a fan of both bands think that Mustaine, Poland, Friedman and Young played great, memorable solos...so did Hammet...although I am not a Hammet fan.

[Kooshball]

1. Better is matter of opinion, and mine is that he is a better player. We have yet to hear Kirks true self as he plays what he is told to play. What you hear on the albums is what James/Lars wanted on the album.

2. Of course they do. James, Lars and later on Bob wouldn't let anything on the album that wouldn't compliment the songs.

3. That person was probably a Metallica fan. I as a fan of both bands think that Mustaine, Poland, Friedman and Young played great, memorable solos...so did Hammet...although I am not a Hammet fan.

touche.
I'm a megadeth fan too but overall feel that metallicas solos have better hooks to them. Although kirk can go a little overboard with the wah sometimes.

I don't really think kirk plays what he's 'told to' though.
I know james and lars have a lot of control over the band and their image but i feel like they give kirk his window of creativity when it comes to the solo.
sure they may have opinions but he's also been there from the start (practically)

[jazzandmetal?]

touche.
I'm a megadeth fan too but overall feel that metallicas solos have better hooks to them. Although kirk can go a little overboard with the wah sometimes.

I don't really think kirk plays what he's 'told to' though.
I know james and lars have a lot of control over the band and their image but i feel like they give kirk his window of creativity when it comes to the solo.
sure they may have opinions but he's also been there from the start (practically)

To a point you are probably right. But the final say as to what is on the album goes through Lars and James. Also, don't forget that while Kirk may have been there from "the start" they were still using Daves songs through Ride the Lightning and maybe Master of Puppets depending on who you believe.

[Kooshball]

To a point you are probably right. But the final say as to what is on the album goes through Lars and James. Also, don't forget that while Kirk may have been there from "the start" they were still using Daves songs through Ride the Lightning and maybe Master of Puppets depending on who you believe.

yeah i can sympathize with dave to a degree but he doesn't come off like a saint either. I imagine they both are guilty of some wrong doing.

Ultimately I'm glad they split. I think both bands are great in their own ways.

[jazzandmetal?]

yeah i can sympathize with dave to a degree but he doesn't come off like a saint either. I imagine they both are guilty of some wrong doing.

Ultimately I'm glad they split. I think both bands are great in their own ways.

Me too. I wouldn't have picked up a guitar if it wasn't for Rust in Peace.

Also, I am in no way a Dave Mustaine fanboy. I really dislike his attitude/over inflated ego. But the man can write some amazing songs.

[Release]

The thing I don't get about Mustaine being so hung up on Metallica is that if his riffs were so good, then why is Megadeth not the bigger band today? Metallica really became HUGE with the Black album, and that has zero riffs from Dave on it. Sure, they had decent success before that album (they were big in the underground) but not to the levels they had with that one).

[shredhead7]

is mustaine really that much better than hammett?

i guess it's all opinion but i feel that hammetts solos really compliments metallicas songs and he adds a lot of feel to them. someone once said that they couldn't recall any memorable megadeth solo but could name tons of metallica solos that are 'catchy'

i guess i feel the same way.


Kirk wrote more melodic solos and a few of the solos are James (unforgiven). For that reason, they are more memorable.

As to who is a better player, Dave hands down. It goes without saying he has better rhythm skills, but his lead playing in the last six years has grown tremendously. There are spots on the last three discs where you are hard pressed to tell who is playing the lead. That was never the case in the early years, where Dave's solo was always a haphazard mess.

[Kooshball]

Kirk wrote more melodic solos and a few of the solos are James (unforgiven). For that reason, they are more memorable.

As to who is a better player, Dave hands down. It goes without saying he has better rhythm skills, but his lead playing in the last six years has grown tremendously. There are spots on the last three discs where you are hard pressed to tell who is playing the lead. That was never the case in the early years, where Dave's solo was always a haphazard mess.

well being sober probably helped his chops a bit.
by the way james didn't write or play the solo for unforgiven.

he did play a few though (master of puppets slow solo..orion 1st solo..nothing else matters..etc)

and i agree with rust in peace being a masterpiece (aside from production) I recently saw them play the whole album and it was great!

[jazzandmetal?]

Kirk wrote more melodic solos and a few of the solos are James (unforgiven). For that reason, they are more memorable.

As to who is a better player, Dave hands down. It goes without saying he has better rhythm skills, but his lead playing in the last six years has grown tremendously. There are spots on the last three discs where you are hard pressed to tell who is playing the lead. That was never the case in the early years, where Dave's solo was always a haphazard mess.

James didn't play the solo in Unforgiven.

[dewman]

Dave's a cool cat. So is Dave Ellefson. met them in NC when I interviewed them for a radio station I was working at in college. And later ran into them again in a bar in NYC, and they were staying at the same hotel as my group, how random. Nonetheless great guys...as I was coming IN at 3am, they were heading OUT...whew that candle got burned at both ends in those days.

[blood5150]

The thing I don't get about Mustaine being so hung up on Metallica is that if his riffs were so good, then why is Megadeth not the bigger band today? Metallica really became HUGE with the Black album, and that has zero riffs from Dave on it. Sure, they had decent success before that album (they were big in the underground) but not to the levels they had with that one).


From 1990 on, Megadeth has released better music than Metallica IMO...

[Kooshball]

From 1990 on Megadeth has released better music than Metallica IMO...

that's probably a popular opinion

I'm a big fan of load/reload though..more so than cryptic writings.
i liked youthanasia and risk(shocking i know)

[RedTiger]

James didn't play the solo in Unforgiven.

Agreed. Maybe he meant "Nothing Else Matters"? That was Hetfield.

[Kooshball]

you can normally tell when it's a hetfield solo.
very bluesy and he uses a couple of repeating licks in some of them.

He's known for his down picking but he is just an all around good musician

[CRAIG4FSU]

I'll pick up a copy and have always been a megadeth fan.

And for the record,,,,,,Megadeth is 10 times better than Metallica is presently.Thats coming from a metallica fan who considers "Justice" the last metallica album.

Bring it :boxer

[concerto25]

I'll pick up a copy and have always been a megadeth fan.

And for the record,,,,,,Megadeth is 10 times better than Metallica is presently.Thats coming from a metallica fan who considers "Justice" the last metallica album.

Bring it :boxer


100% Agreed

[The Last Rebel]

is mustaine really that much better than hammett?

i guess it's all opinion but i feel that hammetts solos really compliments metallicas songs and he adds a lot of feel to them. someone once said that they couldn't recall any memorable megadeth solo but could name tons of metallica solos that are 'catchy'

i guess i feel the same way.
Basically, what you said about Hammett is what I think about Mustaine. His solos compliment the songs perfectly, he has tons of "feel" (soul, emotion, other bluzak words), and he writes catchy songs and solos. Writes being a big word there, Metallica was way better before they allowed Kirk in on the songwriting process.

[Felix Leclerc]

100% Agreed

I concur

[xntrick]

The thing I don't get about Mustaine being so hung up on Metallica is that if his riffs were so good, then why is Megadeth not the bigger band today? Metallica really became HUGE with the Black album, and that has zero riffs from Dave on it. Sure, they had decent success before that album (they were big in the underground) but not to the levels they had with that one).

i for one think Hetfield has a better voice and the Black Album was geared more for the mainstream type of crowd..i can't recall a Megadeth album or cd that tried that hard to appeal to the masses...

[The Last Rebel]

i for one think Hetfield has a better voice and the Black Album was geared more for the mainstream type of crowd..i can't recall a Megadeth album or cd that tried that hard to appeal to the masses...
And you shouldn't, because that album was Risk. I love Megadeth, but every copy of Risk should be rounded up and destroyed.

[eschoendorff]

Dave's a cool cat. So is Dave Ellefson. met them in NC when I interviewed them for a radio station I was working at in college. And later ran into them again in a bar in NYC, and they were staying at the same hotel as my group, how random. Nonetheless great guys...as I was coming IN at 3am, they were heading OUT...whew that candle got burned at both ends in those days.

Finally! Dave's not perfect - but he's far from the person that most make him out to be. I've met him on few occasions and he has been not only friendly, but also quite supportive. And these were times when he was under stress and could have easily just told me to get lost.

I don't know that I'd call myself a Mustaine fanboy, but based on my own experiences with the man, I will say that he is damn fine musician/songwriter and a genuinely good man.

[eschoendorff]

And you shouldn't, because that album was Risk. I love Megadeth, but every copy of Risk should be rounded up and destroyed.

Really? The only thing I hate worse than bad music is a dismissive attitude.

Listen to Risk again, but this time cover up the word "Megadeth." Voila! You will instantly hear some really good, dark pop songs.

[The Last Rebel]

Really? The only thing I hate worse than bad music is a dismissive attitude.

Listen to Risk again, but this time cover up the word "Megadeth." Voila! You will instantly hear some really good, dark pop songs.
I'm sorry, but no. That album is terrible. What's strange though is that Cryptic Writings is actually a fairly good hard rock album. I don't know how he follwed that up with Risk.

I should probably say again that I LOVE Megadeth. My favorite thrash album is by far Rust in Peace.

[Slayblaze]

I also love Megadeth and also my favorite Thrash album is RIP, maybe my favorite album period. Right up there in my top 5 for sure.

But I also really really like RISK, although it took a few listens before it really sunk in. My favorites from that album are "Seven", "Wanderlust" (though that sounds more like a Bon Jovi song..lol) and "The Doctor's Calling". I count those among my favorite Megadeth songs, of which there are many.

I totally understand why Risk leaves most people confused, but as mentioned earlier, if you just take the songs for what they are then they are really pretty great imo. And if you are a Mustaine fan as I admit I am - his book is great too - then you can see exactly what he is doing with his writing on that album and his mark is indelibly present in almost every riff and phrase on Risk. As an album it's not in my Top 100 list but it is far from as bad as most make it out to be.

[jazzandmetal?]

Really? The only thing I hate worse than bad music is a dismissive attitude.

Listen to Risk again, but this time cover up the word "Megadeth." Voila! You will instantly hear some really good, dark pop songs.

Except Megadeth is a metal band and not a pop band.

[eschoendorff]

I'm sorry, but no. That album is terrible. What's strange though is that Cryptic Writings is actually a fairly good hard rock album. I don't know how he follwed that up with Risk.

I should probably say again that I LOVE Megadeth. My favorite thrash album is by far Rust in Peace.

It seems that you have confused opinion for fact.

[Slayblaze]

Except Megadeth is a metal band and not a pop band.

Megadeth is Dave Mustaine.

Also known as "Megadave" to many.

And Dave's unique style of writing his signature riffs is just all over Risk, just in a lighter style than usual. I really took an analytical approach to figuring out what was so different about Risk at one point after its release, after I didn't like it at all (I prefer much heavier faster speed metal than I do hard pop) and it doesn't take too long to hear how much exactly like his more usual material Risk really is at its core songwriting. It was an experiment that I agree did not work out. and I'm very glad that he got back to his true form with United Abominations and even more so with Endgame. I really truly do understand the hating on Risk, and you either like it or not (and most Megadave fans DON'T) but I'm one of the few that think it does stand on its own as a decent album of decent songs, just not up to normal Megadeth heaviness of form.

[The Last Rebel]

It seems that you have confused opinion for fact.
How so? I'm stating my opinion that it's a terrible album and disagreeing with you opinion that it isn't. I'm not stating any fact anywhere.

Except for this, Rust In Peace is the best thrash metal album. Fact.

Also. Fact. Bears eat beets.

[The Last Rebel]

I also think you've missed that a lot of what I've said is tounge in cheek. I'm a sarcastic asshole and my charm just doesn't translate well. Plus I hate that "sarcasm" smiley.

[jazzandmetal?]

How so? I'm stating my opinion that it's a terrible album and disagreeing with you opinion that it isn't. I'm not stating any fact anywhere.

Except for this, Rust In Peace is the best thrash metal album. Fact.

Also. Fact. Bears eat beets.

Sorry brother. You are incorrect.

Slayers Reign in Blood is the best thrash metal album ever.

Rust in Peace is a close second though.:D

[The Last Rebel]

Sorry brother. You are incorrect.

Slayers Reign in Blood is the best thrash metal album ever.

Rust in Peace is a close second though.:D
Well see, I love Reign but personally I think Seasons is a better album. Admittedly there are a few weak songs, but Seasons and Dead Skin Mask more than make up for it. That's an extremely close choice for me now that I think about it, there are days when I'll think Reign is the better album.

[jazzandmetal?]

Megadeth is Dave Mustaine.



That doesn't diminish the fact that Megadeth ( Dave Mustaine ) was a metal band.

Unfortunately they ( he ) are now a pop/hard rock band. Which IMO sucks.

[jazzandmetal?]

Well see, I love Reign but personally I think Seasons is a better album. Admittedly there are a few weak songs, but Seasons and Dead Skin Mask more than make up for it. That's an extremely close choice for me now that I think about it, there are days when I'll think Reign is the better album.

Seasons is one of my favorites too. For thrash it is:
Reign in Blood
Rust in Peace
Seasons in the Abyss
Justice for All

[The Last Rebel]

Seasons is one of my favorites too. For thrash it is:
Reign in Blood
Rust in Peace
Seasons in the Abyss
Justice for All
I love all of those albums, but mine would have to go like this:

Rust in Peace
Reign in Blood/Seasons in the Abyss (I'll call it a tie to make things easier.)
Bonded By Blood
Kill 'Em All

I'm a HUGE Exodus fan and BBB is a classic.

[Kooshball]

Really? The only thing I hate worse than bad music is a dismissive attitude.

Listen to Risk again, but this time cover up the word "Megadeth." Voila! You will instantly hear some really good, dark pop songs.

I agree.
given the expectations of a typical 'megadeth' album it's lacking on the heavy/fast stuff but some great songs on that album in my opinion

another one that kind of seemed to fall under the radar was 'the world needs a hero'

[soulohio]

there are-were at least two Dave Mustaines...the self-centered, impulsive-compulsive, asshole Dave and the thoughtful, kind, sensitive Dave. At times there was little distinction between the two. I'd like to see somebody post on this thread that knew him way back when...I knew some people that did and they were not very generous in their assessments of Dave, both pre and (just)post the drugs. Dave is brilliant and has a family with the same thread of brilliance. Dave has an uncle that is just as brilliant and been in and out of life's depths a few times.... we are lucky Dave was able to find something to focus all this (sometimes crazy) energy on. I'll take MegaDave over Metallica just about any day...

[soulohio]

by the way...does anybody have an opinion about the "remixed and remastered" discs by Dave versus the originals?

[spookyelectric]

is mustaine really that much better than hammett?

i guess it's all opinion but i feel that hammetts solos really compliments metallicas songs and he adds a lot of feel to them. someone once said that they couldn't recall any memorable megadeth solo but could name tons of metallica solos that are 'catchy'

i guess i feel the same way.

I think that if you took Kirk Hammett's wah pedal away from him, he wouldn't know what the heck to do on a guitar solo. Probably just fold up into an oily ball on the floor... But solos with wahs do tend to sound catchier/more memorable.

[spookyelectric]

that's probably a popular opinion

I'm a big fan of load/reload though..more so than cryptic writings.
i liked youthanasia and risk(shocking i know)

The whole 94-99 era for both bands was a little "ehh". Load/Re-Load had some cool stuff on it (I still love "Ain't My Biiiiiiiiit-chaaa!"), but I've always sort of thought those guys were loads themselves. Not like Dave's a saint or not a dick sometimes too, though.

Risk wasn't bad at all-- I applaud them for taking the chance and trying something different. Ever notice how the riff in "Enter The Arena" sounds kinda like the riff from Loverboy's "Turn Me Loose"?

Cryptic was cool too, and the riff from "Train of Consequences" on Youthanasia still gets me.

[minorseventh]

From other sources we know Hammett wrote the main hook for Enter Sandman, which is the reason Metallica ever hit the mainstream in a big way.

except that Hammett might have borrowed that riff, in a very note-for-note kind of way, from Excel... google "Tapping into the Emotional Void" by Excel, and listen to the clips.

[jimshine]

The riff he wrote is the one used in the body of the song, not the intro, and is still not quite the way it came out on the album. Lars took that riff and rearranged it the way we know it now.
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I do believe they ripped this song off for "Welcome Home"

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[JTM100]

The thing I don't get about Mustaine being so hung up on Metallica is that if his riffs were so good, then why is Megadeth not the bigger band today? Metallica really became HUGE with the Black album, and that has zero riffs from Dave on it. Sure, they had decent success before that album (they were big in the underground) but not to the levels they had with that one).


Because it is not ALL about riffs. Metallica has one thing that Megadeth doesnt...a natural and charismatic (in his own way) front man with a star quality. Mustaine is not really a "front man" he is a guitarist/writer up there doing singing duties. Nothing against Metallica, I love what they do also. But musically, IMHO, they have NEVER been able to keep up with Megadeth. BUT, they have Hetfield. Think about most of the biggest bands, what do they have...a front man with that star quality.

[mesamark5]

reign in blood and master of puppets stomp all over rust in peice

[shg]

You have to admit, you can't exactly blame the guy. I mean, Metallica hires a guy with less than half of Dave's playing skill and none of his writing ability, then goes on to become one of the biggest metal bands ever. I'd be pissed too and I don't have near the ego Dave does.

It's all about the fit. Kirk Hammett's playing, his attitude, his personality, and his hobbies and interests all fit within the context of the organisation "Metallica". Being able to get along with people is more important in a band than being the best player.

Hammett's not the world's most technical lead player but you know it's Kirk Hammett when you hear him playing, and during his time in the band Metallica has gone from being a bunch of garage metalheads to being one of the biggest bands in the world. Can't believe the guy takes so much flak for doing what he does so obviously well.

[Sid]

I just finished it this week. It's a quick read. As far as the whole thing - it's...okay. It's very much centered about him, of course. He really still has a huge chip on his shoulder toward James and Lars especially. Throughout the book Dave comes off alternatively as bitter, positive, contradictory, arrogant, inspirational, and vulnerable.

It also seems that he was holding a lot back and not giving us all the details. I was really hoping for more details about the albums, wild tour stories, and dirt on other bands and there just wasn't much of that. It was mainly Dave bouncing around from rehab to rehab and of course, redemption ultimately.

I was pretty familiar with Dave's story (and Thrash in general) as well as knowing most of Megadeth's catalog. I could see a hardcore fan really wanting more. While it's no "The Dirt" or "Hammer of the Gods", it's worth picking it up from the library.

*Pretty amusing that the band's name is misspelled several times in the photo section.

I'd take that as saying Dave was being honest about who he is....bitter, positive, contradictory, arrogant, inspirational, and vulnerable....really dunno why its such a big deal that hes arrogant...the guys a frikking metal god

[jazzandmetal?]

reign in blood and master of puppets stomp all over rust in peice

No....no they don't. However, Reign in Blood is my favorite album of all time and Rust in Peace got me playing guitar...and is also top 5 on my list. Master of Puppets is good, but I will take Slayer or old Megadeth over Metallica any day.

[jazzandmetal?]

It's all about the fit. Kirk Hammett's playing, his attitude, his personality, and his hobbies and interests all fit within the context of the organisation "Metallica". Being able to get along with people is more important in a band than being the best player.

Hammett's not the world's most technical lead player but you know it's Kirk Hammett when you hear him playing, and during his time in the band Metallica has gone from being a bunch of garage metalheads to being one of the biggest bands in the world. Can't believe the guy takes so much flak for doing what he does so obviously well.

Kirk is the perfect fit for them. Lars and James have huge egos and Kirk has none. He does as told and asks few questions. The perfect fit for them.

[Sid]

reign in blood and master of puppets stomp all over rust in peice

Lol that's funny and not cos rib and mop aren't fabulous

[Bassomatic]

I remember hanging out a bit with DM when they were mixing in Bearsville, and he was focused on crushing Metallica. That said, he was kind of a mess at the time, though he struck me as a decent dude.

[Brooks]

i could never get past daves vocals.

its easy to bag on kirk (esp everything he's done since justice for all),
but i thought he played great on master of puppets.

[soulohio]

I remember hanging out a bit with DM when they were mixing in Bearsville, and he was focused on crushing Metallica. That said, he was kind of a mess at the time, though he struck me as a decent dude.


jajaja...Dave may not realize this, but he has crushed Metallica. Just not in record sales or earned income.

There are songs on his discs that to this day, make the wittle hairs on me back stand up....he does an almost impossible task for a heavy metal band - he can put a swing (musical movement) into his songs that takes your breath away. Exodus does this, Slayer does this, the Rolling Stones REALLY could do it....but Dave is just sublime in the way he does this....i shall dig up some examples...