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teleamp
09-24-2010, 12:08 PM
I live out in the country and some people think that there is nothing wrong dumping unwanted animals out here.

Some dropped a couple of cats off that had been living under our house and we've been feeding them.

Then someone dropped off a couple of Great Pyrenee pups, which chased the cats into the field.

Then the Owl had dinner.

The stupid idiots don't realize that in the area I live we have eagles, hawks, owls and ranchers that "take care" of their unwanted pets.

Tears my heart out and I needed to vent. God help them if I catch them dropping off another pet.

I'm so board
09-24-2010, 12:09 PM
Poor old critters.

Jahn
09-24-2010, 12:11 PM
Why the heck wouldn't someone bother to post up the kitties or the pups on craigslist? At least the Great Pyrenees would have gotten some inquiries, surely?

Rad Skronker
09-24-2010, 12:17 PM
There are a lot of people who are ignorant about the amount of care and costs that are required to have a pet.

It is sad that innocent animals have to pay the price as a result of that ignorance.

DirtySteve
09-24-2010, 12:18 PM
Out of sight, out of mind. I live in the country, too. People don't think about whats going to happen to them. It's just the easiest way to get rid of them. They're probably the same people that through trash out the window of their cars without a second thought, too.

matt
09-24-2010, 12:20 PM
Thats how we found our dog, Cosmo. Someone dropped him off at an old abandoned store in the country. We happened to be driving by and saw a little blonde flash, so I turned around. When we pulled up, he was slinging a stick around and running after it. He ran right up to us and laid down and rolled over. We picked him up and he's now my best friend in the world second to my wife. He was only about 8 weeks old when we found him, but he was emaciated and filthy. He weighed about 5 pounds. Now he's about 50 pounds of pure energy. I can't imagine what would have happened to him if we hadn't found him.

People that do that sort of thing to animals (or anything that harms an animal for no good reason) should be drug behind a moving vehicle for a mile going 80mph. If they live, shoot em, if they don't, even better.

Travst
09-24-2010, 12:24 PM
They do the same here. I think they fantasize that their unwanted pets end up in a great home or something. We just adopted a 3 month old pup that is really a great dog. A friend found her after she'd been dumped. My kids love her to death, so some do actually find good homes. I hate irresponsible pet owners.

dmb70
09-24-2010, 01:17 PM
Eagles & hawks have to eat to.:hide2

blueslover
09-24-2010, 01:18 PM
People that do that sort of thing to animals (or anything that harms an animal for no good reason) should be drug behind a moving vehicle for a mile going 80mph. If they live, shoot em, if they don't, even better.

I understand how strongly you feel about this subject, because I share your view that animals should not uncessairly suffer; however, how does stating the above make you any different than them?

Just because they aren't doing what's right doesn't mean that you should suggest they be drug behind a car going 80 and exterminated...

matt
09-24-2010, 01:22 PM
I understand how strongly you feel about this subject, because I share your view that animals should not uncessairly suffer; however, how does stating the above make you any different than them?

Just because they aren't doing what's right doesn't mean that you should suggest they be drug behind a car going 80 and exterminated...

I place absolutely no value on the life of a human that will mistreat an animal. NONE. Same for anyone that mistreats another human being, especially a child.

I'm so board
09-24-2010, 01:27 PM
I place absolutely no value on the life of a human that will mistreat an animal. NONE. Same for anyone that mistreats another human being, especially a child.

You must the halal method.

matt
09-24-2010, 01:35 PM
You must the halal method.

English. Do you speak it?

I'm so board
09-24-2010, 01:37 PM
English. Do you speak it?

:rotflmao Woopsie daises I made a mistake on the interwebz, that must mean I'm real dumb!

I meant to say, "You must hate the halal method"

Hence how much stress and pain the animal goes through before eventually transpiring for the table.

losangeles33
09-24-2010, 01:41 PM
I place absolutely no value on the life of a human that will mistreat an animal. NONE. Same for anyone that mistreats another human being, especially a child.
I'm with you on that bro. There's no smell quite as depressing as walking thru a dog shelter on a Friday. My dog was a stray that some pathetic jerk dumped in downtown L.A. He's now a most awesome friend. The sale of live animals for pets should be halted for a year until the shelters are empty. Then, people should be required to leave a huge deposit when purchasing a dog or cat-to be refunded at a later date.

fredgarvin
09-24-2010, 02:34 PM
Holding the value of an animals life above as person's if you don't agree with or like how they conduct their life regarding animals is a little weird. That's OK though, I have lots of weird friends.
I do go through a lot of barn cats because people dump them out here and they eventually disappear.

Rad Skronker
09-24-2010, 02:57 PM
How a person treats an animal such as a pet is an insight into the character of that person.
Not an infallible indicator, but a pretty accurate one.
On the other side of the coin a person could possibly be a great animal lover and a complete sociopath with little or no regard for human life.
Holding the value of an animals life above as person's if you don't agree with or like how they conduct their life regarding animals is a little weird. That's OK though, I have lots of weird friends.
I do go through a lot of barn cats because people dump them out here and they eventually disappear.

davess23
09-24-2010, 03:19 PM
Years ago, I had a friend who lived on Martha's Vineyard...for those who don't know, it's an island off the south coast of MA. In the autumn, a pack of dogs formed and they began chasing the deer that lived on the island. At that point the game warden had to hunt down and kill the dogs.

These dogs had been abandoned by summer residents who'd just leave the poor things there when they took the ferry over to the mainland. My friend told me that this happened most autumns.

I don't know how anyone can justify abandoning a dog like that. As to the value I'd place on the life of somebody who'd do that, tough call maybe, but I've noticed that the scumbags who abuse animals generally aren't all that considerate of their fellow humans, either.

Pietro
09-24-2010, 03:24 PM
My dogs are family.

Midnight Lady
09-24-2010, 04:17 PM
They're heartless cowards. Too f*ing lazy to drive to the local humane society or SPCA. Pick a 'no kill' site and drop your unwanted pets there. At least then they have a CHANCE.

These domestic animals dropped in the middle of nowhere are terrified. They have zero idea how to fend for themselves and most of them end up dead in short order.

Cowards. I could never even associate with someone who would do this.

blueslover
09-24-2010, 04:28 PM
I place absolutely no value on the life of a human that will mistreat an animal. NONE. Same for anyone that mistreats another human being, especially a child.


I place MUCH less value on someone that mistreats other humans, especially children (although I do respect animals and don't condone their abuse). Please make note that I agree that these people are cowardly, ignorant, and unresponsible. I just feel that it is flawed logic for you to say someone should be exterminated for abandoning an animal. That's not even an eye for an eye. If you would do what you said to another human being what would that say about you? In my opinion, it would be worse than someone abandoning an animal. But I respect that you feel strongly about the issue, and I hope that you were just speaking in an extereme manner to illustrate your conviction.

scottlr
09-24-2010, 04:35 PM
They're heartless cowards. Too f*ing lazy to drive to the local humane society or SPCA. Pick a 'no kill' site and drop your unwanted pets there. At least then they have a CHANCE.

These domestic animals dropped in the middle of nowhere are terrified. They have zero idea how to fend for themselves and most of them end up dead in short order.

Cowards. I could never even associate with someone who would do this.

I agree with your basic thoughts here, Pat. However, I am not sure how coward fits. Meaning what are they afraid of? I prefer to use another word(s) with "just plain mean" as part of it. One could even drop them off at an animal shelter after hours and dump them there. At least the folks would find them and take care of them properly. I'd go the correct way and do it during business hours, but still. If you feel you have to just dump them, dump them at the animal shelter where they'll be found and taken care of.

Axemeister
09-24-2010, 04:36 PM
I agree that people who mistreats animals are slime.. I am a rescuer.. I have saved a few dogs from L.A. shelters.

One of my rescues was so grossly infected, matted and mangey that he was destined for euthanasia. His claws had gotten so long that they were ingrown into his foot pads. He had an 10" long open sore on his back. He had infected staple sutures from where he had been neutered months earlier, and his eyes were oozing. I spent about 575 in Vet bills to get him treated.

Here is what kills me: He had been dropped off by his owners! Nobody asked questions or held them accountable for the way he had been treated. This really bothers me, but at least they dropped him off at the shelter, rather then abandoning him.

By the way, he is now a healthy happy dog... Spoiled and indulged. He deserves it

Midnight Lady
09-24-2010, 07:17 PM
I am not sure how coward fits. Meaning what are they afraid of? .The responsible and adult thing to do would be to take them to a shelter. By sneaking out to the country and dumping the pets out there, they are being irresponsible and immature which just struck me as cowardly.

SteveO
09-24-2010, 07:25 PM
People that do that sort of thing to animals (or anything that harms an animal for no good reason) should be drug behind a moving vehicle for a mile going 80mph. If they live, shoot em, if they don't, even better.

My vote would be to drag them for 80 miles, at ONE mile per hour.

Route234
09-24-2010, 07:26 PM
It surely is cowardly but I think you guys are missing a point to it. They are dropping off the animals out there hoping someone will find them and take care of them. If you dropped the animal off at a shelter its going to get euthanized. I live in a very animal friendly area and it took me about 6 months to find a home for a cat I found in the woods. There was no place that would take it and not euthanize it. The "no-kill" shelters are overwhelmed, especially after the foreclosure spree and bad economic times forced a lot of people to give their pets up. You could probably find a home for a puppy or a kitten right now, but a dog or cat is probably going to be very hard to find a taker for.

I dont disagree with what you guys are saying, but at least they arent dropping them off at the pound or putting them in a sack to die like the cats I found were. 2 dead, 1 had to be put down and the 4th found a home eventually.

dkaplowitz
09-24-2010, 07:33 PM
Eagles & hawks have to eat to.:hide2
You're right. The sad thing is that these cats were domesticated animals. Domestication can render them ill-equipped to survive in the wild and thus more susceptible to being preyed upon than their feral kin. Imagine if they'd had their claws removed too.

That said, who knows if it was better for them to live in the wild if only for a brief time before dying than it was to (more than likely) get euthanized after a couple weeks in a cage?

84superchamp
09-24-2010, 07:53 PM
i have a long drive home from work after dark every night and from time to time i see a dog alongside the road, waiting for his master to return. it's just really sad. makes you wish you could take them all home but you just can't. i think it's the lazy way out for pet owners..like the scumbags that can't wait until they get home to dispose of their trash so it goes in your yard.

Johns7022
09-24-2010, 07:58 PM
I'm with you on that bro. There's no smell quite as depressing as walking thru a dog shelter on a Friday. My dog was a stray that some pathetic jerk dumped in downtown L.A. He's now a most awesome friend. The sale of live animals for pets should be halted for a year until the shelters are empty. Then, people should be required to leave a huge deposit when purchasing a dog or cat-to be refunded at a later date.

+1000

I would also require an IQ test for people to pass before they are allowed to have kids....

You guys wouldn't want me King.....I would have serious laws against stupid people who do stupid things...

ahardmark
09-24-2010, 09:11 PM
People that abandon pets out in the country like that baffle me. Why not just drop it in front of a shelter? Lots of idiots that don't understand how much work a pet is (or how expensive it can get) until after they bring it home.

schmidlin
09-24-2010, 09:34 PM
I agree with the OP. The thought alone is heartbreaking. Bastards.

Gordon
09-24-2010, 09:36 PM
Terrible stuff that people do with no remorse. A few years ago there was a puppy who was obviously lost and scared on the dirt road. He came to me when I pulled over. Made all the postings of "lost dog" at the country store. No one claimed him. Now he's my neighbors pet. Someone just dumped the little guy. Even worse, New Years eve a couple of years ago I'm driving home and see all these little bumps in the road. Little, about the size of bunnies. I pull over and there are 8 little pups, no more than 4 weeks old and three older pups, less than 6 months old. I got almost all of them, six little ones and two bigger ones. One older pup was carrying some of the little one's into the desert. They were starving and scared. At least they didn't get run over in the dark.

teleamp
09-24-2010, 10:51 PM
The people who think that all country folk are going to take in the animals do not realize (at least in this area) that the cattle ranchers around here shoot wild dogs (unknown strays) and if a neighbors dog is chasing their cattle they become fair game.


Thanks for the support. Mutual of Omaha in real life takes some getting use to I suppose. I keep checking the food bowl and hoping.

Go Cat Go!!
09-24-2010, 10:55 PM
Terrible stuff that people do with no remorse. A few years ago there was a puppy who was obviously lost and scared on the dirt road. He came to me when I pulled over. Made all the postings of "lost dog" at the country store. No one claimed him. Now he's my neighbors pet. Someone just dumped the little guy. Even worse, New Years eve a couple of years ago I'm driving home and see all these little bumps in the road. Little, about the size of bunnies. I pull over and there are 8 little pups, no more than 4 weeks old and three older pups, less than 6 months old. I got almost all of them, six little ones and two bigger ones. One older pup was carrying some of the little one's into the desert. They were starving and scared. At least they didn't get run over in the dark.

Reminds me of the Steven Segal movie when he catches the guy who dumps a German Shepherd puppy on the highway. "Anybody seen Ritchie? Anybody know why he did Bobby Lupo?"

Rattles
09-25-2010, 12:29 AM
There are a lot of people who are ignorant about the amount of care and costs that are required to have a pet.

It is sad that innocent animals have to pay the price as a result of that ignorance.



Thats how we found our dog, Cosmo. Someone dropped him off at an old abandoned store in the country. We happened to be driving by and saw a little blonde flash, so I turned around. When we pulled up, he was slinging a stick around and running after it. He ran right up to us and laid down and rolled over. We picked him up and he's now my best friend in the world second to my wife. He was only about 8 weeks old when we found him, but he was emaciated and filthy. He weighed about 5 pounds. Now he's about 50 pounds of pure energy. I can't imagine what would have happened to him if we hadn't found him.

People that do that sort of thing to animals (or anything that harms an animal for no good reason) should be drug behind a moving vehicle for a mile going 80mph. If they live, shoot em, if they don't, even better.


:aok I'm with you guys!

Boris Bubbanov
09-25-2010, 03:03 AM
Maybe we're being counterproductive, telling of how we rescued our pup at perhaps 9 weeks of age from along a forgotten road between the old Fort Polk bombing range and a pine plantation.

Just because I saved one does not tell the story of what happened to the other 99 puppies I wasn't there to save. But my impression is the alternative to being abandoned along the road is simply the rifle or handgun. Maybe this is more humane. The number of actively breeding dogs and cats in the USA is very high. Perhaps an all time high. This is the unspoken baggage that comes with having dogs and cats in this culture; that far fewer homes exist than are needed for these very high numbers. Something will happen to the excess, something we're all accountable for.

Teleplayer
09-25-2010, 04:17 AM
Thats how we found our dog, Cosmo. Someone dropped him off at an old abandoned store in the country. We happened to be driving by and saw a little blonde flash, so I turned around. When we pulled up, he was slinging a stick around and running after it. He ran right up to us and laid down and rolled over. We picked him up and he's now my best friend in the world second to my wife. He was only about 8 weeks old when we found him, but he was emaciated and filthy. He weighed about 5 pounds. Now he's about 50 pounds of pure energy. I can't imagine what would have happened to him if we hadn't found him.

People that do that sort of thing to animals (or anything that harms an animal for no good reason) should be drug behind a moving vehicle for a mile going 80mph. If they live, shoot em, if they don't, even better.

Word

rob2001
09-25-2010, 05:05 AM
We have a small hobby farm not far from a busy highway and ya, cats get dropped in the area often. We used to go and get our barn cats (very well taken care of) either from friends or from shelters but we don't anymore. We know more are coming. All 4 of the barn cats we have now were strays that just showed up.

bluesjuke
09-25-2010, 05:09 AM
Recently posted a thread about those that let theirs run wild.
This is worse and about as heartless as it gets.

rob2001
09-25-2010, 05:23 AM
Recently posted a thread about those that let theirs run wild.
This is worse and about as heartless as it gets.


Just to be clear on my barn cats...they are free to come and go as they please but they are spayed/neutered, well fed, have their own beds and are up to date on shots. We love and care a great deal for these strays that showed up. They are free to go where they will but i've never seen them off our property. They know where home is.

semi-hollowbody
09-25-2010, 06:36 AM
laziness and selfishness...too much work to find another home...people can be crap!!

bluesjuke
09-25-2010, 08:55 AM
Just to be clear on my barn cats...they are free to come and go as they please but they are spayed/neutered, well fed, have their own beds and are up to date on shots. We love and care a great deal for these strays that showed up. They are free to go where they will but i've never seen them off our property. They know where home is.


To be clear (guess you didn't see the thread, it was about peole that let their dogs roam free and get hit by cars and enter pastures with horses and such.
Had a Barn Cat myself for over 8 years so I'm familiar with that.

He was born in the wild too though he did come in the house time to time sometimes overnight.
He also stayed here full time.

TNJ
09-25-2010, 08:57 AM
I place absolutely no value on the life of a human that will mistreat an animal. NONE. Same for anyone that mistreats another human being, especially a child.


THIS.

rob2001
09-25-2010, 09:12 AM
To be clear (guess you didn't see the thread, it was about people that let their dogs roam free and get hit by cars and enter pastures with horses and such.
Had a Barn Cat myself for over 8 years so I'm familiar with that.




Cool.

I didn't see that thread but I was hoping no one would be upset about the idea of a barn cat.

fredgarvin
09-25-2010, 10:38 AM
It surely is cowardly but I think you guys are missing a point to it. They are dropping off the animals out there hoping someone will find them and take care of them. If you dropped the animal off at a shelter its going to get euthanized. I live in a very animal friendly area and it took me about 6 months to find a home for a cat I found in the woods. There was no place that would take it and not euthanize it. The "no-kill" shelters are overwhelmed, especially after the foreclosure spree and bad economic times forced a lot of people to give their pets up. You could probably find a home for a puppy or a kitten right now, but a dog or cat is probably going to be very hard to find a taker for.

I dont disagree with what you guys are saying, but at least they arent dropping them off at the pound or putting them in a sack to die like the cats I found were. 2 dead, 1 had to be put down and the 4th found a home eventually.

I think you are correct, in most cases it's a misguided effort to give the animal a chance. Bad idea though. That's how I get most of my barn cats and they are terrified and traumatized for a long time until a few weeks of a steady food supply will bring them around. They have it pretty good then, until they disappear. Some of them go totally feral and pop in a year later to say hello.