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fenderbender4
04-17-2005, 11:04 PM
I have heard comments on this from different people. Does anyone know the features, describe the sound, price, construction and date, and most importantly...WHERE COULD I FIND ONE??
fenderbender4
04-17-2005, 11:35 PM
I heard somone say that the low end on this is bad. Can anyone speak to this issue?
SQUAREHEAD
04-18-2005, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by fenderbender4
I heard somone say that the low end on this is bad. Can anyone speak to this issue?
Ya
SQUAREHEAD
04-18-2005, 08:55 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38074&item=7315317105&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Buy it.
riverastoasters
04-18-2005, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by fenderbender4
I heard somone say that the low end on this is bad. Can anyone speak to this issue?
Don't think we've had that problem with ours. Keep in mind that "flubby when pushed" is a complaint that you will only hear from people who have actually opened the amp up. Unless you have a good deal of isolation handy, or a very large venue without PA, you don't do that with a Dual Professional.
Did you contact the guy who is selling one on TGP Amps & Cabs Emporium? Good place to start.
Mike
shallbe
04-18-2005, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by fenderbender4
I heard somone say that the low end on this is bad. Can anyone speak to this issue?
Not the one I played. It is hand-wired and sounded huge. Tons of clean headroom, very loud and also very heavy. Not farty AT ALL. Really nice 3 knob verb and good tremelo. The fat switch adds just what you need to take a single coil guitar into a beefier solo tone. It comes stock with 2 V30's, and they handle bottom end very well. If you want loud and clean with guts, this amp will do it.
59burst
04-18-2005, 11:35 AM
I've had one for several years now, and I haven't had any problems with the low end. I play it mainly at home, but I have taken it to some small/medium gigs. No fartiness whatsoever. It is incredibly loud, so maybe it loses some bottom end if you turn it up to 10, but that would kill a charging rhino at 50 paces.
I know people talk about the clean, but I find that it is not as high clean headroom as a 100 watt Carvin X-100B tube amp I used to have. I can get touch sensitive dirt into my playing beautifully with the Dual Pro, using a Les Paul. Less so with a strat at the volume levels I play at home, but with the fat switch engaged, the strat sounds really beefy and cool.
I assume that if this amp weighed 20 lbs less (it weighs 76 lbs) it would be one of the "must have" boutique amps. I think many other 2x12 combos that people dig weigh even more (Mesa, Matchless), and I have no idea how people gig with them regularly! My search for a great clean sounding tube amp ended with this. (My search for a great Marshall-style amp ended with my Emplexador, so I'm pretty much done looking for amps!)
I picked one up to a/b with my other 6L6 amps. The V30's break up, and when I play it through my Swamp Thang the lows hold together much better.
It's a good sound. Every Two-Rock I ever played sounds better to me, including a modified Bassman I had. That said, the Two-Rocks are more hi-fi, (except that Bassman-best Fender I ever heard) while the Fender has that, well, "Fender" thing happening!
My curiosity satisfied, I'm going to move this big boy on down the road, but for a little while if anyone wants to come over and a/b, let me know.
Mike
riverastoasters
05-04-2005, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by ToneGurus
It's a good sound. Every Two-Rock I ever played sounds better to me
Ever Two-Rock I ever played was much less attractive to me than my Dual Professional. Sometimes it's strange how taste works.
I played one along with two Vibrokings, a SRRI and three original SRs when I bought my old vintage one. It was my least favorite of all those amps. It still was a nice Fender clean, but not one of my faves. The low end sounded pretty tight to me. They may still have it at GC in Paramus NJ. It was there for a LONG time.
Ever Two-Rock I ever played was much less attractive to me than my Dual Professional. Sometimes it's strange how taste works. Yes indeed, that's what makes the world go round. That's why I always try to say "to me", or "to my ear", out of deference to others who may hear things differently.
I do NOT like the V30's in this amp though. Better cleans to be had with other speakers "to my ear"!
Mike
riverastoasters
05-04-2005, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Tag
I played one along with two Vibrokings, a SRRI and three original SRs when I bought my old vintage one. It was my least favorite of all those amps.
To get the true sound of the Dual Professional you have to open it up. This is usually not practical. It's sort of what is wrong with the amp. But when you open a Dual Professional up more or less all the way there is no Super on the planet that will do that. VK won't really do it either, for similar reasons. The Super has 410 and VK is 310 and those 10 inch speakers just don't get beat on the way a Dual Pro - which is typically really pushing 150 Watts - hits those 2 12 inchs. In a Super, each 10 inch speaker is getting maybe 15 Watts. in a Dual Pro, each 12 inch speaker is getting 70-80 Watts.
Someone else in this thread mentioned how they changed the speakers to change the sound. When you hit speakers that hard, they can change sound just from one volume level to the next - even though you aren't really getting nonlinear distortion from the speakers - you get color changes. So the Dual Professional is a pretty revealing about some uncommon aspects of speakers. This is part of the Dual Pro attraction which is of no use to people that can't run it really loud.
That would explain it! I have never been in any situation where I could play an amp that loud. Even in my metal bands, my 50 watt marshalls hardly ever went past 3-4 on the volume knob.
Originally posted by riverastoasters
To get the true sound of the Dual Professional you have to open it up. This is usually not practical. It's sort of what is wrong with the amp. But when you open a Dual Professional up more or less all the way there is no Super on the planet that will do that. VK won't really do it either, for similar reasons. The Super has 410 and VK is 310 and those 10 inch speakers just don't get beat on the way a Dual Pro - which is typically really pushing 150 Watts - hits those 2 12 inchs. In a Super, each 10 inch speaker is getting maybe 15 Watts. in a Dual Pro, each 12 inch speaker is getting 70-80 Watts.
Someone else in this thread mentioned how they changed the speakers to change the sound. When you hit speakers that hard, they can change sound just from one volume level to the next - even though you aren't really getting nonlinear distortion from the speakers - you get color changes. So the Dual Professional is a pretty revealing about some uncommon aspects of speakers. This is part of the Dual Pro attraction which is of no use to people that can't run it really loud.
davebc
05-04-2005, 04:31 PM
The Dual Pro is/was(discontinued) imo the custom shops best kept secret. I loved it so much,I bought two.
What it does,it does better than anything else,which is produce the warmest,most organic,clean fidelity you'll ever hear.
The amp sounds like a perfectly broken in 45 year old Twin.
I like to to chime in whenever the subject of the Dual Professional comes up because these amps are so overlooked, but offer incredible value,hand built, point to point,killer lush reverb,a Vibrato that will give you a heart message,tons of warm clean headroom,topped with this incredible sparkle and shimmer.
I've never cranked mine,but with the Volume on about 7( try to get away with that)and a Les Paul straight in,you can really nail that amazing old live Bloomfield cranked Twin thing,or the early Duane ABB studio stuff.Oh yea,and absolutely to die for clean Hendrix tones.Play the opening chords to "Wind Crys Mary"and you will completely wet yourself.
The amp really loves pedals;and in all likelyhood you'll need one to make the amp give it up.
I've never experienced any farting out in the low end,and the DP's seem to be more consistent sonically than the Vibro-Kings.
I had to go through 5 VK's before finally finding THE one.
These days my Tone Master( talk about LOUD) has been collecting a lot of dust,and might be my least favorite only because of the brittle highs in the gain channel,love the Vintage Channel though.
If you like old Twins,or amps with an incredible amount of warm,clean,shimmering headroom,you'll dig the DP,super fidelity.
59burst
05-04-2005, 04:49 PM
+1 on what davebc wrote.
I'd suggest we quit talking up the DP though - I have one, and I'd love to get another, but if people get wise to them, either the supply will dwindle or the price will move out of my reach. :D
davebc
05-04-2005, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by 59burst
+1 on what davebc wrote.
I'd suggest we quit talking up the DP though - I have one, and I'd love to get another, but if people get wise to them, either the supply will dwindle or the price will move out of my reach. :D
Oh yea,they really suck,don't anyone even consider one.
Well guys, I've got one here I want to audition for a couple more days to see what I'm missing, then I'm selling it. It's so heavy, I'll probably do a Bay Area sale, no shipping. I should take it outdoors and crank it, but it's raining right now!
I owned a Tonemaster for the better part of a year. I HATED that amp, both channels. I dug the Vibro-King at the music store, but bought a '53 Twin that day. I had that Twin for over 10 years. Had a '64 Super Reverb for 7 years, until I sold it about 2 1/2 years ago.
I liked the Vibro-King and Super better than this DP. The Twin was a different animal altogether....
I dug all my Two-Rocks better than those Fenders or this one. I'm kind of relieved that this DP didn't blow me away. I can relax a little and trust my preferences.
Mike
davebc
05-04-2005, 06:43 PM
The weight of the DP is definitely a negative, a real nut buster,no doubt.
I've given up on the Tone Master, can't remember the last time I turned it on,probably a year now,can't deal with the gain channel,way too brittle/harsh,uncontrollable.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE MY VIBRO-KING!
I love the DP for what it does,warm,clean fidelity.
hey ToneGurus,
can you tell us about the '53 twin?
I'll find and post a pic, time permitting. I had it recapped and a 3 prong power cord put on, and put Kendrick Blackframes in it. Best tweed I ever heard. I had two different guys about 1600 miles apart tell me it was the best amp they had ever played through.
Keith Holland in Los Gatos ( http://www.keithhollandguitars.com/murphyLP.htm ) played it, because they were talking up the Victoria Double Twin as the epitome of that sound. So I brought it in to a/b. Keith plugged into the '53 first and hit one, maybe two chords --- looked up at me like he'd seen a ghost. Said, "This is the best amp I've ever heard." He wasn't smiling, he was just floored.
I said, "Well OK let's plug into the Victoria." He said, "No, I don't even want to -- it'll just depress me."
I got the amp in 1994 or so, and Clapton's "From the Cradle" came out in '94. My amp sounded pretty much like his tones on that CD, (relying totally on my memory at this point).
I used to play my '61 strat through it and my Super Reverb, and I also had a '67 Vibrotone cab. It was fun for a couple of years. I think I had to get the vintage Fender thing out of my system.
A couple of years ago I sold it to a guy here in Capitola who hoards that kind of stuff. I sold it with the original-coned Jensens it shipped with new. Six months later I offed the Super Reverb and never looked back.
Mike
floobeedust
05-04-2005, 10:14 PM
What do you guys think about using the DP for a keyboard amp ?..I know the blackface Twi reverb was useful in that application and was just wondering on the DP.
59burst
05-05-2005, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by floobeedust
What do you guys think about using the DP for a keyboard amp ?..I know the blackface Twi reverb was useful in that application and was just wondering on the DP.
I often run my Hammond XK-2 through my DP and it sounds _way_ better (read: old school) than when I've run it through a high powered keyboard amp. The frequency response is not as flat as a keyboard amp, so I have to be careful not to overdo the volume on the bass notes.
I use my DP about 60% for guitar, 40% for the Hammond.
I bought Mike (tonegurus) dual pro last week and spent some time playing it over the weekend. I have to say I am amazed. It has a quality to the sound that I really didnt expect. You cant turn it up above 3 without causing structural damage but it is never harsh or icepick like.
I used 3 guitars, a stock Ibanez AS200, a 335 dot reissue (57 classics) and a 58 reissue with Darkbursts. The 335 really sang with this. Wonderful tone and clarity. The Ibanez was a bit harsh and the les paul a little thin by comparison.
It sounds similar to the clean channel on my Shiva combo but reacts in a completely different way. It is so fast on the attack that it makes the Shiva sound like it has some kind of compressor taking the attack off each note.
Works great with pedals, too.
Mike delivered the amp and commented (as above here) that he prefers the cleans of his two rocks. Those things must be incredible if they are significantly better than the Dual Pro!
It is heavy but probably not any heavier than the Shiva.
Cheers
Neil
59burst
06-27-2005, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Neil
Mike delivered the amp and commented (as above here) that he prefers the cleans of his two rocks. Those things must be incredible if they are significantly better than the Dual Pro!
It is heavy but probably not any heavier than the Shiva.
At this level - Dual Pro, Two Rock, etc - things are probably not so much a case of "better" or "worse" as different flavors of incredible tone.
While the DP is no lightweight at 76 lbs, there are Boogie, Bad Cat, etc combos that weigh more.
Welcome to the club! :dude
So there are 2 in the Bay area!
How about we form an owners club? We could fit the casters on them, cruise along Skyline and have breakfast at Alices!
I love my Dual Pro. The only distortion I get when I crank it (which is very rarely, and never for very long, and causes a variety of antisocial things to happen) is from the V30s, I think. If I run into into a cab with JBLs, I can get it so loud that you can't be in the room with it, and I don't think it's distorting, though I can't really listen for any length of time at that volume.
It also does that very cool thing where you can set the tone control settings to low numbers to do some frequency-specific attenuation...
I think it's a great amp. It's way way more power than I need.
And I'm in the Bay Area too!
59burst
06-27-2005, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Neil
So there are 2 in the Bay area!
How about we form an owners club? We could fit the casters on them, cruise along Skyline and have breakfast at Alices!
LOL!!! I like it!
BTW, a buddy of mine here in SF also has one. So, there are at least four!
You guys need a group hug! Glad you dig it Neil.
Mike
davebc
06-27-2005, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by jda
I love my Dual Pro. The only distortion I get when I crank it (which is very rarely, and never for very long, and causes a variety of antisocial things to happen) is from the V30s, I think. If I run into into a cab with JBLs, I can get it so loud that you can't be in the room with it, and I don't think it's distorting, though I can't really listen for any length of time at that volume.
It also does that very cool thing where you can set the tone control settings to low numbers to do some frequency-specific attenuation...
I think it's a great amp. It's way way more power than I need.
And I'm in the Bay Area too!
I love mine DP's and was putting them through the paces this weekend.Incredible at what they do!
I don't think I've tried that trick setting the tone controlls at low settings. I have to hear about this.Tell me more please.
Twins do this too..
Turn all the tone controls all the way down. Turn the volume up. You will notice that you can turn the volume basically all the way up with little or no signal coming out, as long as the tone controls are all the way off.
Now, you can keep the volume cranked high - maybe try like 7 or 8 or so - and crack open each of the tone controls just the tiniest bit - just till signal passes in that frequency band. It will still be pretty quiet, but I find the sound to be somewhat different from the low volume, higher tone control settings - maybe more compression or something.
Then you can start turning up the tone controls as loud as you can get away with, and tailor the frequencies to taste.
These kinds of settings open up a bunch of cool sounds from both Twins and Dual Pros, at least to my ears.
And it's cheap and easy! Give it a try, if you like, and see what you think...
8nthatK
06-28-2005, 04:01 AM
Re: Dual Pro
Still my favorite cleans, (for the country stuff I gig) I like the cleans better then both the Two Rocks I've owned and the ERT 33.
"Bad bottom end" is definitely not an adjective that describes a DP...
I personally liked the amp much better after replacing the V30 speakers; the low volume cleans sound amazing with different speakers IMO. ( I use Weber California’s) I didn't find any benefit in turning up, it may help with the V30s but the preamp stays pretty much clean into insane volume land and it's not likely you're going to get the amp to sag if you crank it, it doesn't sag period.
My DP description; extremely robust power section with zero sag that is FAST, really fast. If you only dig a spongy attack with some sag this isn’t going to be for you, it won’t hide anything either. I think it excels at rapid fire clean lines/banjo rolls, etc. I could see Albert Lee really sounding great plugged in one.
Despite the quick tracking, it sounds very big and warm; I think the reverb being in front softens it up.
I would pick something else for blues styles and roots playing, but it kicks arse for country stuff. I would never use it for any kind of break-up as it stays so clean so LOUD, besides the fact I think the DP’s break-up sounds like crap…
davebc
06-28-2005, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by 8nthatK
re: Dual Pro
Still my favorite cleans, I like the cleans better then both the Two Rocks I've owned and the ERT 33.
"Bad bottom end" is definately not an adjective that describes a DP...
I personally liked the amp much better after replacing the V30 speakers, the low volume cleans sound amazing with different speakers IMO. ( I use Weber Californias)
I have been a huge fan of the DP's since they were first introduced, not as the do all, be all, but just as one of the best at what they do, clean, warm, organic fidelity.
This past weekend I was experimenting with my Les Pauls,and running the treble up around 8-9.The amp never got ice-picky,or harsh. I love the Bloomfield tones the DP lays out.
I would LOVE to hear the DP with those Weber Californias.My understanding is that they do a pretty convincing JBL.Could you tell me a little about how the amp changed sonically from the stock V-30 which I think sound well voiced for this amp?
I'd throw a Swamp Thang and a Tonker in there.... to instigate those occasionally much-needed bowel movements! But seriously, the V30 breakup was annoying to me, given that amp's characteristics. I was looking for big huge clean (which it does), and the V30's are not clean speakers.
I can see the tele twang/grit thing working well with those speakers though.
I remember seeing Charlie Hunter in the old days, and he was using a DP for his bass strings amp.
BTW, if you were not comparing a 100-watt K&M, then you weren't comparing apples to apples. No matter though, it is about personal preference, and for $1000 bucks, (my loss Neil!) it's a great bargain.
Mike
I would LOVE to hear the DP with those Weber Californias.My understanding is that they do a pretty convincing JBL. [/B][/QUOTE]
Do you mean that the Californias are a convincing JBL or that Weber make something (else) that is a convincing JBL?
Cheers
Neil
Swarty
06-28-2005, 09:59 AM
These things to me represent everything a Twin Reverb should be.
Weber Calis are Weber's "version" of a JBL. I've got a pair of AlNiCo Calis, and I think they sound good, but they aren't quite the same as JBLs. They did an odd thing in the cab I had them in - they did that thing where the sound focuses way far in front of the cab - like it's way way louder 20-30 feet in front of the cab than right in front of it. Weird.
I've often thought of sticking them into the DP.. not sure if they would fit..
davebc
06-28-2005, 01:50 PM
Man,that sounds like every closed back cab I've ever had.Was yours closed back?
I'm realizing,or should say accepting, that the DP has one of the stongest inherent personalities of any amp I've used.
It's damn near impossible to change the character of this amp.It always seems to retain this big,warm,clean,fidelity,regardless of whatever pedal you use.
My feeling now is that I could try something that's dirtier than I would normally use to get that extra crunch.
A Lester straight in with the amp cranked up could get you there,but it will take you head off;and with single coils,FORGET IT!
Here's a piece of DP history that I found interesting.
The guy who was responsible for the DP's clean sonic character was non other than Pete Andersen. He stated in an interview(maybe Vintage Guitar,or Fender Frontline when the amp first introduced) that the original design was too dirty sounding.
Now that I would have loved to have heard! Can you imagine, a dirtier version of the DP? with that killer reverb and Vibrato?Instead Pete made his thoughts and feelings known.
He and Zinky began experimenting, dropping in different value parts while Pete was playing, until it became the big clean machine it is today.
I still would have loved to have heard the dirty sounding original though!
59burst
06-28-2005, 01:55 PM
Interesting. While my DP certainly has a humongous warm, clean, sound, I am quite capable of getting bite (just to the clean side of "dirt") with a single coil equipped strat if I dig in and the fat switch is engaged.
I've played Twin Reverbs that don't have this characteristic, and so while I've never owned a Twin (too clean overall for me), the Dual Pro has just enough edge on tap that it sounded different from a Twin Reverb.
Of course I use a pedal (Menatone Blue Collar) to get any real kind of distortion. The amp takes pedals very well, IMHO.
8nthatK
06-28-2005, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by davebc
.Could you tell me a little about how the amp changed sonically from the stock V-30 which I think sound well voiced for this amp?
It's been a while to be honest...four or five years I guess. I remember it as getting bigger and more open, I know I was really pleased with it.
davebc
06-28-2005, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by 59burst
Interesting. While my DP certainly has a humongous warm, clean, sound, I am quite capable of getting bite (just to the clean side of "dirt") with a single coil equipped strat if I dig in and the fat switch is engaged.
I've played Twin Reverbs that don't have this characteristic, and so while I've never owned a Twin (too clean overall for me), the Dual Pro has just enough edge on tap that it sounded different from a Twin Reverb.
Of course I use a pedal (Menatone Blue Collar) to get any real kind of distortion. The amp takes pedals very well, IMHO.
Agree,bite is achievable straight in,I guess I was talking about that something more.
The strong clean personality of the Dual Pro,always seem present,and I don't mean that in a bad way.
Maybe what I'm trying to say is to have it to into dirty,British,kind of Trainwreck sonic territory.The DP just might the ultimate American sounding amp.This stuff is so subjective.
8nthatK
06-28-2005, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by 59burst
Interesting. While my DP certainly has a humongous warm, clean, sound, I am quite capable of getting bite (just to the clean side of "dirt") with a single coil equipped strat if I dig in and the fat switch is engaged.
I never did use the fat switch; it got too big and warm for my taste engaged. Never thought to try the fat switch to get OD, but again, I wasn't very fond of the break-up in the DP anyway.
I do remember it was earth shaking loud though to get any kind of break-up at all, I think I had set the volume to around 3:00 as an experiment at sound check to see if it would ever give it up...damn that was loud. My drummer bud still talks about it.
8nthatK
06-28-2005, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by davebc
Here's a piece of DP history that I found interesting.
The guy who was responsible for the DP's clean sonic character was non other than Pete Andersen. He stated in an interview(maybe Vintage Guitar,or Fender Frontline when the amp first introduced) that the original design was too dirty sounding.
Now that I would have loved to have heard! Can you imagine, a dirtier version of the DP? with that killer reverb and Vibrato?Instead Pete made his thoughts and feelings known.
He and Zinky began experimenting, dropping in different value parts while Pete was playing, until it became the big clean machine it is today.
I still would have loved to have heard the dirty sounding original though!
Was it Mr. Anderson?
Bruce (Zinky) was kind enough to make me a pretty neat little load box thingy that went between the speaker out jack and the speakers...we discussed the DP in depth and he told me all about the development of the amp, the exact conversation is no longer clear in my mind. Somehow I had it in my mind it was a Vince Gill project...I'm sure you're right though.
If I turn my DP up to more than 3, engage fat switch and swat an open 'A' chord on my Les Paul, there is a nice 'Paul Kossof' type edge to the sound.
At that volume it's probably my ear drums distorting........
Neil
davebc
06-28-2005, 04:11 PM
Hey Neil,
Try turning it up to 5-1/2, roll the tone completely off the front p/u of your Lester and play a few of your favorite blues licks.
davebc
06-28-2005, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by 8nthatK
Was it Mr. Anderson?
Bruce (Zinky) was kind enough to make me a pretty neat little load box thingy that went between the speaker out jack and the speakers...we discussed the DP in depth and he told me all about the development of the amp, the exact conversation is no longer clear in my mind. Somehow I had it in my mind it was a Vince Gill project...I'm sure you're right though.
It was the one and only Pete Andersen(sp) of Dwight Yokum fame,a really tasty picker imo.He's really flying below the radar these days.Despite his input into the DP,he was usually using his Vibro-King or modded Deluxe.
Oh my God,a Dual Pro thread that actually lasted longer than it takes to dissolve a breath mint.
Does anyone have any tasty tone settings with the DP that they would like to share? I'd love some new ideas to try,
straight in, pedals , whatevers working for you..
The Eristic
06-28-2005, 08:37 PM
I want one. :^(
Originally posted by davebc
Man,that sounds like every closed back cab I've ever had.Was yours closed back?
It's semi-open - an oval shaped hole in the back. Somehow, the JBLs seem a little less beamy (to my ears) than the Webers. Odd.
I'd love to slap the Webers or a pair of JBLs into the Dual Pro... it would put it well into hernia range weight though..
Originally posted by davebc
Hey Neil,
Try turning it up to 5-1/2, roll the tone completely off the front p/u of your Lester and play a few of your favorite blues licks.
I tried this. Apart from being LOUD it showed how the amp would transition from clean to a sudden harsh distortion. It was a good sound if you picked very gently. I'm begining to suspect there is something not right with my Les Paul. It is the brightest and harshest of all my guitars now that I have put the RS kit and darkbursts in. It sounds great through my JTM45 clone but it is firmly in last place behind all my stock guitars (which all sound fanbloodytastic) through the DP. Back to stock wiring I think. I cant believe it is the fault of the Darkbursts.
I tempted to try the Californias, too. Ceramic probably as alnicos are too many $s for an experiment.
Neil
davebc
06-29-2005, 05:33 AM
Neil with the front p/u tone controll rolled to -0-,I would think that shouldn't have sounded harsh.Doing that on mine I get the DP's version of the "woman tone" harmonically rich with a lot of sustain. oh yea "loud".
The amp responds the same regardless of what humbuckers I'm using,Holmes,Rolphs,stock 57'Classics,and Burstbuckers.
I always use the "fat" switch on.
How are you guys eq-ing your DP's?
I tried the DP through an Ear Candy cab with an EV12L. It was much warmer than the V30s (which was a surprise) and suggests that there may be a better speaker match for the DP than the V30s.
Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that there is one at a NJ GC (route 4, paramus). It's still there- I saw it last week.
Didn't notice a price, but nothing used at GC is ever cheap.
davebc
07-03-2005, 01:42 PM
There was a Dual Pro ebay a couple of weeks ago,along with a Custom Shop Strat.The seller claimed they belonged to his dad who had just past away,and that he(the seller) knew nothing about guitars or amps. Both pieces were absolutely dead mint,and were selling fairly cheap, $1000.each.
I always see they showing here and there.
Well I was seriously thinking of it seeing as it is so LOUD! I couldnt really bring myself to sell it but I was getting ready to put it on the bay.
Then my Zendrive (finally) arrived. They make an amazing combination. Headroom for miles then singing leads and crunchy chords without getting to know the local constabulary.
I recommend this set up! No Ebay for the D Pro
Cheers
Neil
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