NFL - Week 5

[Craig Walker]

Saints vs Cards

Cards starting an undrafted rookie from BYU at QB. Max Hall. Sounds like a reverb setting. :D

Saints are VERY banged up right now.


Saints 24 Cards 17

Jags over Bills
Ravens over Broncos
Colts over Chiefs [I'll believe in the Chiefs 100% if they win this game in Indy]
Texans over Giants
Bengals over Bucs
Redskins over Packers
Lions over Rams
Panthers over Bears
Falcons over Browns
Cowboys over Titans
Chargers over Raiders
Eagles over Niners
Jets over Vikings

[Think Floyd]

Miami has a bye, but I'm sure that they'll still find a way to lose!

[blueslover]

Saints Cards
Jags over Bills
Ravens over Broncos
Cheifs over Colts [I've gotta show love cause' I live in KC]
Giants over Texans
Bengals over Bucs
Packers over Redskins
Rams over Lions
Bears over Panthers
Falcons over Browns
Titans over Cowboys
Chargers over Raiders
Eagles over Niners
Jets over Vikings

[jetsnation]

I'd say Rams are the story of the year so far, I wish I could watch the Lions-Rams game.

[voorhiessa]

Saints vs Cards

Cards starting an undrafted rookie from BYU at QB. Max Hall. Sounds like a reverb setting. :D

Saints are VERY banged up right now.


Saints 24 Cards 17

Jags over Bills
Ravens over Broncos
Colts over Chiefs [I'll believe in the Chiefs 100% if they win this game in Indy]
Texans over Giants
Bengals over Bucs
Redskins over Packers
Lions over Rams
Panthers over Bears
Falcons over Browns
Cowboys over Titans
Chargers over Raiders
Eagles over Niners
Jets over Vikings

Lets see....agreement with, except:
Bucs win
Rams win (unless Best is back in full action)
Bears win
Raiders win

Agree, my Saints are hurting, but they've got to get the O going soon...

[ABKB]

Ok

Saints over Cards. Banged up or not, Saints still can beat those guys.
Jags over Bills. A duh one.
Broncos over Ravens. My "what the heck" pick.
Colts over Chiefs. Chiefs have to lose at some point. And oh, that QB the Colts have, he's pretty good.
Texans over Giants. Giant's are still high from the Bears shelling. Texans are angry.
Bengals over Bucs.
Packers over Redskins. This one could go either way though.
Lions over Rams. My wishful thinking here.
Panthers over Bears. Pains me to say it. Bears SUCK.
Falcons over Browns. Another duh.
Cowboys over Titans
Chargers over Raiders. If the Chargers lose this one, it's over.
Eagles over Niners. Got some reservations on this one still. 49r's just may pull it out still.
Jets over Vikings. Jeez I sure hope so.

[Greggy]

I'd say Rams are the story of the year so far, I wish I could watch the Lions-Rams game.

Could be. The attitude of the team has sure changed quick. While still short on overall talent, they are not that far off being a good 8-8 team. On the flipside, they haven't played a quallity opponent yet. In fact, they have one of the weakest schedules in the NFL.

[Jerry Shaw]

Cheifs over Colts [I've gotta show love cause' I live in KC]



The more I look at this game, the more I like the Chiefs. Colts safeties are banged up, theyll mostly start a guy who couldn't even start for the Chiefs the last three years, when the Chiefs were really down. Colts run D is...um...not so good, while Chiefs running attack is coming on strong. Ball control, eat the clock, etc. Overall, the Chiefs are fired up and playing with a lot of confidence - everyone's believes in the system now. I think Romeo Crennel will find a way to pressure Manning.

[thesteve]

Coming in at 31-31...here's my list of winners:

Jags over Buffalo
Cincy over TB
ATL over Cle
Rams over Lions (though I hope I'm wrong)
Indy over KC (welcome to 3-1)
Pack over Skins
DA BEARS over the Painters (unless Cutler throws for -13 yards again...though that might be enough...)
BAL over Denver
Giants over Texans (okay...I bought NYG D-Line big time)
NOLA over AZ (Cards are terrible)
Tenn over Dal
San Diego over Oakland (and the streak continues)
Iggles over Niners (even with Kolb)
Jets over Vikes (get Favre a crutch)
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[Jahn]

Saints over Cards
Jags over Bills
Ravens over Broncos
Chiefs over Colts
Giants over Texans
Bengals over Bucs
Packers over Redskins
Rams over Lions
Bears over Panthers
Falcons over Browns
Cowboys over Titans
Chargers over Raiders
Eagles over Niners
Jets over Vikings

[GovernorSilver]

Saints vs Cards

Cards starting an undrafted rookie from BYU at QB. Max Hall. Sounds like a reverb setting. :D

Saints are VERY banged up right now.


Saints 24 Cards 17


Even if Kurt Warner were still playing would have been forced off the field by 3rd quarter with that porous OL in front of him - it allowed 9 sacks in one game. I don't see how the Cards get to two digits in scoring against the Saints unless your boys allow a big return from The Hyphen.

The Chargers lose starting safety Steve Gregory for 4 weeks for violating the substance abuse policy (performance enhancer(s)). His replacement Paul Oliver won't be much of a dropoff though, as he's already the dime back. Both of them are just holding the fort though for rookie and eventual starter Darryl Stuckey. The newest Charger will probably take his place at dime - ex-Steeler Tyrone Carter.

[Bankston]

The Giants pass rush is stout but they are mediocre against the run. Texans O-Line has been dominant at times and we have 3 outstanding backs.

The Texans offense is MUCH better than Chicago. Andre Johnson should be ready to go.

Eli will have to light it up for the Giants to win on the road.

Texans need to stay committed to the run.

And oh yeah, the AFC defensive rookie of the year is back, roids or not.

[TNJ]

Saints vs Cards

Cards starting an undrafted rookie from BYU at QB. Max Hall. Sounds like a reverb setting. :D

Saints are VERY banged up right now.


Saints 24 Cards 17- Check

Jags over Bills- Check
Ravens over Broncos- Check
Colts over Chiefs [I'll believe in the Chiefs 100% if they win this game in Indy]- Definitely Check...remember the NYG game at the Luke.
Texans over Giants- Check..those Texans are gonna have their hands full though. The G-men are pissed.
Bengals over Bucs- Check
Redskins over Packers- Nope...but I like this as an upset pic. I'm still taking GB.
Lions over Rams- Nope...Rams pull it out.
Panthers over Bears- Nope...Da Bears rally behind the Collins and Urlacher.
Falcons over Browns- Check...close one though.
Cowboys over Titans- Check
Chargers over Raiders- Check
Eagles over Niners- Nope, SF takes it.
Jets over Vikings- Nope, Favre and Moss pull out all their junk and win it.

Fixed it for my take...ya gotta throw some upsets in there, Craig.
The parity this year is blowing my mind. Any given Sunday (or Monday) has never been more true than this season, IMO.

GO COLTS!!!

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[Jahn]

I hear Collie might be out. I wonder if Garcon now will have better stats than Eddie Royal this week for Fantasy...

[yodude]

Lots of Jets picks here. This could be the game Favre goes out for the season. His line is horrible and the Jets, as much as I hate them, have a mean rush

[atomicmassunit]

OK, here's my picks. I'm going opposites of what I'd like to pick in a lot of cases, just based on general wackiness of the first 4 weeks.

Saints 17 Cards 10 I think this is going to be tougher than most people think, but still a win.

Bills over Jags
Broncos over Ravens
Chiefs over Colts
Texans over Giants
Bengals over Bucs
Redskins over Packers
Lions over Rams
Bears over Panthers
Browns over Falcons-Crazy upset!
Titans over Cowboys
Raiders over Chargers
49'ers over Eagles
Jets over Vikings

[Craig Walker]

Fixed it for my take...ya gotta throw some upsets in there, Craig.



Well, you changed 5 picks, and I'm guaranteed to miss on 6, so you have a great shot at 13-1. :D

[thesteve]

OK, here's my picks. I'm going opposites of what I'd like to pick in a lot of cases, just based on general wackiness of the first 4 weeks.

Saints 17 Cards 10 I think this is going to be tougher than most people think, but still a win.

Bills over Jags
Broncos over Ravens
Chiefs over Colts
Texans over Giants
Bengals over Bucs
Redskins over Packers
Lions over Rams
Bears over Panthers
Browns over Falcons-Crazy upset!
Titans over Cowboys
Redskins over Chargers
49'ers over Eagles
Jets over VikingsGood luck with that one.

[Bankston]

Mario Williams injured his groin at practice yesterday and is questionable for Sunday's game.

Texans' D will be in serious trouble if Mario can't go. He's a tough guy, though, and has played hurt many times. But an injury like that could sure slow him down.

[GovernorSilver]

OK, here's my picks. I'm going opposites of what I'd like to pick in a lot of cases, just based on general wackiness of the first 4 weeks.

Redskins over Chargers


You might want to take another look at the schedule.

[atomicmassunit]

You might want to take another look at the schedule.
Good luck with that one.


Fixed. Still crazy, I know.

30+ guitar students and 3 out of town gigs this week, I'm in the thick of no sleep/overworked/stressed out.

Let's have some more crazy upsets this weekend.

[yodude]

Fixed. Still crazy, I know.

30+ guitar students and 3 out of town gigs this week, I'm in the thick of no sleep/overworked/stressed out.

Let's have some more crazy upsets this weekend.
Bills and Favre would make me happy

[Chuck Snider]

Pats are on a by week..... I should of went camping!
Well maybe Coach Bill is re-inventing the passing game on the by week.... so.
GO Pats (week 6):D
Moss will kicks the lowly Jets ass this week with his new team!

[Bankston]

And we're a little more than 12 hours from kickoff . . .

[Cobra]

There are a few interesting match-ups this week, among them:

Rams @ Lions - Clash of the Titans...
Packers @ Redskins - It's a Lombardi thing...
Vikings @ Jets - Drama fest!

[Frankee]

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff36/ibelluoweeni34/RaidersSuck.jpg

[Cobra]

Oops...
Bad start for the Pack.

[FlyingDutchman]

Great stop by KC in the red zone. Carr had a great swat down on Reggie Wayne that save a TD.

[Bankston]

Man, this is ugly so far.

Giants playing great defense.

[Bankston]

And it just gets uglier. Texans' D can't stop them.

This is a blowout.

[yodude]

Pats are on a by week..... I should of went camping!
Well maybe Coach Bill is re-inventing the passing game on the by week.... so.
GO Pats (week 6):D
Moss will kicks the lowly Jets ass this week with his new team!
This is the most important pre game practice sessios this year, by far for the O. I'm sure the timing of letting Moss go is tied to the bye week. They have to reshuffle the deck and change everything with their passing game. This will be a big test for the NE coaching staff. I' confident they'll fugure it out, like they always have

[Bulldog]

Go Chiefs!

Looking like a top defense right now. Forced the Colts to kick 3 field goals. All tied up 9-9


My fantasy team is totally ----ed from Sidney Rice to Randy Moss to crap performances by Ronnie and Ricky to Vick knocking Maclin out of top tier to Clayton and Addai getting hurt today.... but who cares if the Chiefs are 4-0? Go Chiefs! =)

[Jerry Shaw]

Go Chiefs!

Looking like a top defense right now. Forced the Colts to kick 3 field goals. All tied up 9-9

This from Hoosierland???

[Bulldog]

This from Hoosierland???

I'm a Kansan. Born and raised.

[Chuck Snider]

KC's defense is really good this year...
Peyton having a little trouble there...

[Bulldog]

KC's defense is really good this year...
Peyton having a little trouble there...

Yea, and while Addai out kills my fantasy team, I'm loving their lack of running game right now. If only we could pull out a TD before this is over.

[FlyingDutchman]

KC looks great still..Dallas Clark is killing my fantasy day though..Thankfully Collie has a few receptions now to keep it from being a total washout..

Anyone know what happened to Jermichael Finley? He is my other TE and he hasnt played since the first quarter..

[Bulldog]

KC looks great still..Dallas Clark is killing my fantasy day though..Thankfully Collie has a few receptions now to keep it from being a total washout..

Anyone know what happened to Jermichael Finley? He is my other TE and he hasnt played since the first quarter..

Finley and Lee are both hurt.

Come on Chiefs! Tighten up!

[Cobra]

KC looks great still..Dallas Clark is killing my fantasy day though..Thankfully Collie has a few receptions now to keep it from being a total washout..

Anyone know what happened to Jermichael Finley? He is my other TE and he hasnt played since the first quarter..

Injured on the first play from scrimmage, out for the rest of the game...

[Bankston]

G-men's defense looks awesome today.

They have totally shut down the Texans.

No big comeback this time.

[Cobra]

Skins @ Pack tied up with 1:07 to go in the 4th...

[Wagster]

http://www.netnax.net/imgs/sports/baltimore-ravens2.png

[Cobra]

Big win for the Skins!
Congrats...

[QRSS]

WOW! skins

[Bankston]

Congrats to the G-men. Impressive win.

They controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball and made lots of big plays.

Texans remain a mediocre work in progress.

[jetsnation]

Texans remain a mediocre work in progress.

To me, they don't really have an identity. They aren't ground and pound like the Jets, Steelers and Ravens and they aren't really finesse like the Colts
and Patriots.

I'll include the Chargers and Bengals in the same group as the Texans.
Talented rosters but not that scary.

[ABKB]

Lions kicked some serious butt and took names. And my Bears won. Shocked even me. Of course Collins liked like a statue back there. If it weren't for an exceptional running game the first quarter we would have been killed!

[Bulldog]

We lost, but held on til the end. Cassel just ain't cutting it at QB. They need some separation and teams just aren't afraid of him. I blame that mostly on Chambers and Bowe who aren't spreading the field enough to really get teams off the run. All those dropped passes by Bowe killed KCs chances today. Perhaps KC should have been wheeling and dealing for Randy Moss?

[rob2001]

My Packers under-achieved again and lost. I could say injuries really hurt but still, decent offensive production and no points on the board. Congrats to the Skins for hangin in there and keeping it close enough to win in the end.

Still, I can't remember so many starting players sitting on the bench for the Pack. Do you start to question the strength and conditioning coach?

[rob2001]

Yikes.......looks like Rogers got a concussion on the last play. I think my prediction of the Pack goin 13-3 is a bit optimistic.

[Bulldog]

Yikes.......looks like Rogers got a concussion on the last play. I think my prediction of the Pack goin 13-3 is a bit optimistic.

I'd have predicted 13-3 to start the season. With every injury, you look more and more like you'll be 10-6 or 9-7

[mnjordan]

Yikes.......looks like Rogers got a concussion on the last play. I think my prediction of the Pack goin 13-3 is a bit optimistic.

I'd have predicted 13-3 to start the season. With every injury, you look more and more like you'll be 10-6 or 9-7

Should be fine. The Saints are looking terrible, and I'm just not a believer in the Falcons. I believe GB will be in the SB for the NFC.

[Sidney Vicious]

Saints are way off - last year was injury free (pretty much) and included many lucky bounces - this year - not so at all.

Plus, everybody seems a half second/half step out of sync.

[TNJ]

I'm a Kansan. Born and raised.

Yeah...well you lost today, brother. The '72 Dolphins opened the Champagne early this year. :D

Back on topic, Bulldog. You were beaten by a better (not even from the same planet) QB. Oh well... :)
If Cassel doesnt start throwing the ball...you're looking at another losing season.
Meanwhile, Indy's running game is improving.
Which makes our play action/air game much more respectable.
Peyton wasnt on as much in the first half, but made up for it in the 2nd half.
And Vinatieri is still $$$$. :cool:
Addai is working on his game and his yardage is picking up.
I've always like Hart better than Brown as the backup RB...and it looks like I'm being proved right there.


And what happened to the Saints????
And the Packers???
And the Cowboys???
And the Texans???
And the Chargers???
What a wkd! :eek:
Parity is a total buzzkill for some folks, and a total party for others.
I still think the AFC South is vying for toughest AFC Division.
Finally...I predict a win for SF tonite against Philly.

GO COLTS!!!

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[carbz]

How bout them Raiders.......................................:rot flmao

[mild]

Tony Romo: 406 yards and 3 TD's - Dallas lose.

Philip Rivers: 431 yards and 2 TD's - Chargers lose.

:bonk:bonk:bonk

[DWB1960]

How bout them Raiders.......................................:rot flmao

Wow. Congrats Mike!

[Cornbread]

And the Cowboys???


S>
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we are looking forward to the 2011 draft :FM

[Greggy]

Rams were flat as a flat tire. No energy. Lions played well. Two teams in the bottom half of the league duking it out. We lost Clayton at receiver, and we are entirely depleted of good receivers now. Not good for the male sheep.

[Greggy]

Haven't heard much discussion "yet" about Josh Freeman and the Bucs. His rating is at 84, very good for a second year QB. I haven't seen him play since his Big 12 days. Perhaps the Bucs are the surprise team this year.

[Bulldog]

Yeah...well you lost today, brother. The '72 Dolphins opened the Champagne early this year. :D Not sure what champagne you're talking about? Chiefs fans felt we were lucky to be 3-0.. I don't recall anyone busting open Champagne? I also believe I've said over and over I thought KC would lose both their 4th and 5th game (we play the Texans next week). If anything, we proved today that we're one of the best defensive teams in the league and with a few pass completions (IE: Bowe doesn't drop passes), we're as good as anyone in the league. KC was the underdog in this one and almost pulled it out with solid defense.


Back on topic, Bulldog. You were beaten by a better (not even from the same planet) QB. Oh well... :)

And the KC defense did a pretty sharp job of taking him out of the game and forcing Addai and Hart to beat them. If the young kids in KC can do, it everyone will try. Colts fans should be wary. You're running game is poor and your defense, while fast, has holes all over it. They kinda look like last years Giants and Pats...


If Cassel doesnt start throwing the ball...you're looking at another losing season.

I don't think so. I think KC lives and dies by their pass protection. If they can keep opponents from passing, they can beat them by controlling the clock. Cassel doesn't have to throw more... but Bowe and Chambers have to catch a few more. Drops lost us this game.

[Stratobuc]

Haven't heard much discussion "yet" about Josh Freeman and the Bucs. His rating is at 84, very good for a second year QB. I haven't seen him play since his Big 12 days. Perhaps the Bucs are the surprise team this year.


Did a terrible job picking up the blitz today - but made some big plays with his arm and legs. Next week will tell a lot about this team.

[Craig Walker]

Saint's game is easy to understand:

Ladell Betts [5-6 deep on depth chart] had an F- game. Absolutely the worst game I've seen a pro player play.

2 fumbles that equalled an easy 14 points. One directly returned for a TD, one that gave them the ball inside the 10. Cost 2 time outs that were HUGE at the end of the game [didn't line up correctly].

The Saints defense held the Cards to 194 total yards. You really have to try hard to lose a game like that.


Turn the ball over, you lose. Period.


We need PT and Reggie back badly. Moving on...

[Craig Walker]

6 incorrect picks so far..... put ALL your money on Eagles and Jets :D :D

[jetsnation]

How are the Bengals such a mess?

They've got a good qb, good receivers, decent running back, decent defensive players.

[big mike]

Hot damn what a fabulous day.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m141/Mykkus/Orbiter/RaiderNation.jpg

[Stratobuc]

How are the Bengals such a mess?

They've got a good qb, good receivers, decent running back, decent defensive players.



Maybe they got beaten by a good team?

[jetsnation]

Maybe they got beaten by a good team?

I don't think so.

And it seems like everybody they play is a good team.

[Stratobuc]

I don't think so.

And it seems like everybody they play is a good team.


They both get paid. You probably didn't see the game.....

[BarryJ]

They got beat by the Browns

The Browns are not a good team


.........and this is coming from a Browns fan........................

[TNJ]

How are the Bengals such a mess?

They've got a good qb.


There's your error...I think Palmer lost the game today. The Bengals do make me scratch my head.
Great offense, both air and running. Defensively very tough. What gives? Well, like I said...today I think it was Carson Palmer. In close games, their are no little mistakes...just ask Dallas.

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[TNJ]

Not sure what champagne you're talking about?

You know...they always pop the Champagne in Miami when the last undefeated team loses during a season.
I also think that KC's pass defense wont win games if they can't stop the run at crucial points.
Plus, if you cant pass...your running game gets zeroed in on, and you lose anyway.
Finally...I think you (and everyone else in the NFL) are underestimating Indy's running game. Addai and Hart can get it done (and did today).
What I'd like to see is our O-line get a little tougher protecting Peyton, and our secondary getting a little more
consistent. Oh, and someone needs to tell Freeney to cover the edge for those teams without a stellar passing game...and let Robt Mathis take care of the QB in his absence.

GO COLTS!!!

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[Frankee]

Props to the Raiduhz. They came through when it counted. Looks like the rivalry is back on. I can now resume the hate after 7 years of pity. We had a good run there.

WTF special-teams? Gave up a dozen points. I hope someone is fired tomorrow morning.

[big mike]

Props to the Raiduhz. They came through when it counted. Looks like the rivalry is back on. I can now resume the hate after 7 years of pity. We had a good run there.

WTF special-teams? Gave up a dozen points. I hope someone is fired tomorrow morning.

Norv?

:boxer

It was a good run for your boys Frankee. Not like the 18-0 we had going on y'all in the 70s....

[Stratobuc]

They got beat by the Browns

The Browns are not a good team


.........and this is coming from a Browns fan........................

And you BOTH got beat by............................................ who?

[shadco]

Wow

Alex Smith

I heard he was bad but I had no idea.

[SteveGaines]

How are the Bengals such a mess?

They've got a good qb, good receivers, decent running back, decent defensive players.


with a Bass Fiddle...That guy was once an elite qb but this year he is making some TERRIBLE throws...But you gotta hand it to him..He took the blame today...:D

[thesteve]

Sheesh...Chargers give up 9 points on special teams and an offensive fumble gives up another 7. They've been downright dominant on offense (506 total yards today), but have too many crucial turnovers (two RZ fumbles and one on the Oakland 33 while trailing by 1). Detroit might be the best 1-4 team, but I'm certain the Chargers are the best 2-3 team.

[FiestaRed]

Yes! Perfection is intact for another week!

[Jahn]

it's a good day to be a philly fan - go iggles and Phils!

[SteveGaines]

Sheesh...Chargers give up 9 points on special teams and an offensive fumble gives up another 7. They've been downright dominant on offense (506 total yards today), but have too many crucial turnovers (two RZ fumbles and one on the Oakland 33 while trailing by 1). Detroit might be the best 1-4 team, but I'm certain the Chargers are the best 2-3 team.


I thought Rivers was gonna throw for over 500 yards:bonk but breakdown in special teams and fumbles hurt that team..One thing about Rivers, though, if there is a more fiery competitor at Quarterback than that guy I wanna see him, he doesn't back down from anything or anybody...

[Darby Crash]

The 49ers really are that bad.

[thesteve]

I thought Rivers was gonna throw for over 500 yards:bonk but breakdown in special teams and fumbles hurt that team..One thing about Rivers, though, if there is a more fiery competitor at Quarterback than that guy I wanna see him, he doesn't back down from anything or anybody...I think Rivers now has the most yards thrown on the season and will remain in the top 5 in QB rating...

but who cares when your team is 2-3. I wish I could be more excited about Rivers throwing like the elite QB San Diego has expected.

[tylerfreak]

Norv Turner makes me throw up in my mouth, actually having the gaul to say that some parts of special teams were actually improved. I feel sick for Rivers, Gates, and Floyd...these guys deserve to win.

The darn coaching staff is trying to use situation guys, ie. Tolbert, Sproules, Nanee etc...as actual running backs/receivers, which just aint going to happen. They can be great, but are still situation players and are only appropriate as such, not as every down guys.

The management needs to get Rivers the protection he needs (thank god McNeil will be back next week!), an every down back/receiver who is not a rookie. Not to mention the bonehead move to get rid of Osgood, that was a good move.

I can hear Norv Turner telling AJ Smith that his team is going to be OK without LT, Osgood, McNeil, Jackson, and the like...the problem is that all these guys cant be replaced by just any player; its unfortunate the frustration I saw in LT is starting to show in Rivers now...almost like he has accepted the fate that hes just not going to get the support that he deserves. Its disgusting to see amazing players lose their fire because of DEAD coaces/owners who dont support them with the best supporting cast possible, and take responsibility for their coaching flubs.

Congrats BigMike, that was a big win.

[Twangzilla]

I can hear Norv Turner telling AJ Smith that his team is going to be OK without LT, Osgood, McNeil, Jackson, and the like...the problem is that all these guys cant be replaced by just any player; its unfortunate the frustration I saw in LT is starting to show in Rivers now...almost like he has accepted the fate that hes just not going to get the support that he deserves. Its disgusting to see amazing players lose their fire because of DEAD coaces/owners who dont support them with the best supporting cast possible, and take responsibility for their coaching flubs.

Congrats BigMike, that was a big win.

LT? He was done in SD. It took him a move to a new team and a fresh start with one of, if not the best, run blocking lines in football to look good. As far as the rest of the personnel woes go, that is all on AJ Smith, "The Lord of No Rings".

I do think the ST coach is going to get canned.

[tylerfreak]

LT? He was done in SD. It took him a move to a new team and a fresh start with one of, if not the best, run blocking lines in football to look good. As far as the rest of the personnel woes go, that is all on AJ Smith, "The Lord of No Rings".

I do think the ST coach is going to get canned.

yeah, i thought that too, plus his injuries...but the more i think about it, did he have blocking, a nice full back...how about linemen that create a hole for him to run through? the answer is no, he didnt have the support he needed either to succeed even if he was healthy.

Fire away!

[Bulldog]

The 49ers really are that bad.

I wouldn't say that. I'd say the 49ers are actually quite good. Crabtree and Davis looked great last night. They just don't have anyone with any confidence to throw to them. If Smith would stay in the pocket and pass to Davis, they'd have killed Philly. It was open all night.

[Bulldog]

I also think that KC's pass defense wont win games if they can't stop the run at crucial points.
Plus, if you cant pass...your running game gets zeroed in on, and you lose anyway.

Were you watching the game? KC gave Indy the run. They NEVER had 8 guys in the box. Mostly they just played 6 and drop the rest into coverage. Took Manning out of the game. Of course Addai and Hart got yards. KC gave them them, knowing they couldn't do anything in the red zone. And guess what, on 5 attempts, they got 1 TD. 20% success rate. I'll gamble my chances on a 1-5 chance they make the end zone.

KC lost this one, not because Indy's offense was good (it wasn't), but cause KC couldn't complete passes, which has been a major weakness for years. If Bowe can hold onto the football, this is a different football game. KC could really use a wide receiver cause Bowe and Chambers aren't it.

[FiestaRed]

I wouldn't say that. I'd say the 49ers are actually quite good.

0-5 and 5 turnovers is quite good?

[pickaguitar]

I'd say the 49ers are actually quite good. Crabtree and Davis looked great last night. They just don't have anyone with any confidence to throw to them. If Smith would stay in the pocket and pass to Davis, they'd have killed Philly. It was open all night.

I think they have something as well...it hasn't developed fully for them yet but there is something going on with that team. This is coming from someone who's never liked the 49ers. I find them facinating to watch in the 4th quarter

[TNJ]

I think Indy's running game is
improving, and of course I
watched the game. In past seasons
with Addai, he got no respect and
still couldn't make the yardage.
This season, I see him making better runs than
in the last couple of years.
That only makes our passing
game better.
Wrt KC, you need a QB as well
as a back who can do a better job
catching the ball for short yardage
plays.

My .02,
S.
j

[GovernorSilver]

yeah, i thought that too, plus his injuries...but the more i think about it, did he have blocking, a nice full back...how about linemen that create a hole for him to run through? the answer is no, he didnt have the support he needed either to succeed even if he was healthy.

Fire away!

I do agree with the other guy that the Jets OL is better at run blocking than the Chargers.

However, Tolbert and Matthews have had some huge holes for them at times this year. The rushing attack is not as dominant as the Jets' but has jumped from the 30s to middle of the road in NFL team rushing rank going from 2009 to 2010. Tolbert/Matthews have pretty much the same OL and FB blocking for them that LT had last year. The only thing holding back the Chargers running game is the fumbles. LT was more secure with the ball in 2009 - I have to give him that at least.

[Turbo Gerbil]

the Texans stunk it up. That is all.

[Bankston]

To me, they don't really have an identity. They aren't ground and pound like the Jets, Steelers and Ravens and they aren't really finesse like the Colts
and Patriots.

I'll include the Chargers and Bengals in the same group as the Texans.
Talented rosters but not that scary.

They're trying to have balance but why they would come out throwing against a hot Giants' pass rush when you were leading the league in rushing with 3 healthy backs I'll never understand.

One brilliant thing the Giants did was to get their arms up into the passing lanes because the Texans throw between the numbers a lot. It took until the 2nd half for Houston to adjust and start bootlegging.

By not establishing the run, turning the ball over and getting behind early, Houston had to start throwing and that played right into the Giants' strength. Also, the running plays were terrible calls. The Giants clogged up the gaps and Houston didn't even attempt to get to the edge with a stretch play or HB toss.

Gary Kubiak got his coaching ass handed to him yesterday.

Oh and the Saints . . . thanks for costing me my last pick in my knockout pool. Awful.

[DWB1960]

I'm glad I'm not a betting guy. This has been the strangest start to an NFL season that I can ever remember.

[jetsnation]

They're trying to have balance but why they would come out throwing against a hot Giants' pass rush when you were leading the league in rushing with 3 healthy backs I'll never understand.

One brilliant thing the Giants did was to get their arms up into the passing lanes because the Texans throw between the numbers a lot. It took until the 2nd half for Houston to adjust and start bootlegging.

By not establishing the run, turning the ball over and getting behind early, Houston had to start throwing and that played right into the Giants' strength. Also, the running plays were terrible calls. The Giants clogged up the gaps and Houston didn't even attempt to get to the edge with a stretch play or HB toss.

Gary Kubiak got his coaching ass handed to him yesterday.

Oh and the Saints . . . thanks for costing me my last pick in my knockout pool. Awful.

It seems that the best way to win the AFC is have Manning or Brady as your quarterback or play smashmouth on both sides of the ball.

Man the Giants seem to be all or nothing.

[mnjordan]

I'm glad I'm not a betting guy. This has been the strangest start to an NFL season that I can ever remember.

Ain't that the damn truth. It's been utterly unpredictable in any way. More so than it usually is, even.

[Bulldog]

I think Indy's running game is
improving, and of course I
watched the game. In past seasons
with Addai, he got no respect and
still couldn't make the yardage.
This season, I see him making better runs than
in the last couple of years.
That only makes our passing
game better.
Wrt KC, you need a QB as well
as a back who can do a better job
catching the ball for short yardage
plays.

My .02,
S.
j


I really don't see that "Improvement" in your running game.

Joseph Addai:

Rushing Stats
YEAR TEAM G ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
2006 IND 16 226 1081 4.8 41 7 66 2 2
2007 IND 15 261 1072 4.1 23 12 65 0 0
2008 IND 12 155 544 3.5 23 5 34 1 1
2009 IND 15 219 828 3.8 21 10 44 1 1
2010 IND 5 76 278 3.6 17 2 20 1 0

Looks pretty similar to me. Addai is running the ball more, and not producing any more than he has in the past. Same running game, teams just ain't stacking the box. He ain't producing yards and he certainly ain't producing TDs.

[jtm622]

The Texans were in "2nd and 10" way too many times - It appeared that Kubiak panicked and gave up on running the ball way too early...
Once that happened, the Giants D came across that line with their jocks cinched up and their hair on fire on every 2nd and 3rd down...

And there's nothing positive that can be said about the Texans' D - except maybe that there's no way to go but UP from here...

[GovernorSilver]

To me, they don't really have an identity. They aren't ground and pound like the Jets, Steelers and Ravens and they aren't really finesse like the Colts
and Patriots.

I'll include the Chargers and Bengals in the same group as the Texans.
Talented rosters but not that scary.

Norv wants the Chargers to be a passing team, with just enough of a running game to slow down the opposing pass rush. Why not, as they have the #1 passing offense and #1 overall offense. I'm sure he didn't count on special teams derailing the season (to date) though.

[thesteve]

Norv wants the Chargers to be a passing team, with just enough of a running game to slow down the opposing pass rush. Why not, as they have the #1 passing offense and #1 overall offense. I'm sure he didn't count on special teams derailing the season (to date) though.Indeed...special teams have now surrendered 30 points this season.

[SteveGaines]

yeah, i thought that too, plus his injuries...but the more i think about it, did he have blocking, a nice full back...how about linemen that create a hole for him to run through? the answer is no, he didnt have the support he needed either to succeed even if he was healthy.

Fire away!


I saw an interview with Tiki Barber and he said that "LT" had called him and wanted to know who he seemed to get stronger towards the end of his career..and he turned "LT" on to his personal trainer..He's got "LT" stronger and healthy...plus having one of the best run blocking lines in the NFL doesn't hurt either...

[Guitar55]

Tony Romo: 406 yards and 3 TD's - Dallas lose.


:bonk:bonk:bonk

How sweet it is!

[Jon Silberman]

How sweet it is!
http://www.giantstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Cowboys-loss-300x260.jpg

[jetsnation]

Norv wants the Chargers to be a passing team, with just enough of a running game to slow down the opposing pass rush. Why not, as they have the #1 passing offense and #1 overall offense. I'm sure he didn't count on special teams derailing the season (to date) though.

I think teams like the Steelers and Ravens can shut down any passing team. You can get by during the regular season, but eventually you'll need a good running game. Unless you have Manning or Brady.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Rivers and the Chargers have been making a living out of playing in an unbelievably crappy division for a while. I don't consider them to be a top 4 afc division team. Maybe 5th.

[GovernorSilver]

I think teams like the Steelers and Ravens can shut down any passing team. You can get by during the regular season, but eventually you'll need a good running game. Unless you have Manning or Brady.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Rivers and the Chargers have been making a living out of playing in an unbelievably crappy division for a while. I don't consider them to be a top 4 afc division team. Maybe 5th.

The Steelers did a good job vs. the Chargers last year until the 2nd half, in which they relaxed and gave up 4 quick TDs.

The Ravens were also victorious but did give up 436 pass yds, 2 passing TDs.

I still think both have good pass Ds, don't get me wrong, but both won because the Chargers at the time could not stop anybody's running game.

Norv thinks Rivers is his P. Manning, but that debate will not be settled this year. The toughest opponent pass D on the schedule is the Bengals.

[DWB1960]

Jeez, how many games this year have there been where one team racks up a ton of yards between the two 20s but then doesn't score enough from the red zone, or turns the ball over, or gives up a huge special teams play?

Seems like a lot of teams that are losing are gaining a ton more yards than their opponent.

My co-workers are about ready to give up on Norv. Good offensive coordinator, BAD head coach.

[ABKB]

Man, so far this week I'm +5 -8 :bonk DOH

[TNJ]

I can't quote you yardage.
I just follow the way he runs, and I'm telling you that the holes are opening better and he's running with more conviction and determination/ energy.
Mike Hart is a great one too. Watch...watch 'em and see.

S.
j

I really don't see that "Improvement" in your running game.

Joseph Addai:

Rushing Stats
YEAR TEAM G ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
2006 IND 16 226 1081 4.8 41 7 66 2 2
2007 IND 15 261 1072 4.1 23 12 65 0 0
2008 IND 12 155 544 3.5 23 5 34 1 1
2009 IND 15 219 828 3.8 21 10 44 1 1
2010 IND 5 76 278 3.6 17 2 20 1 0

Looks pretty similar to me. Addai is running the ball more, and not producing any more than he has in the past. Same running game, teams just ain't stacking the box. He ain't producing yards and he certainly ain't producing TDs.

[Craig Walker]

http://www.giantstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Cowboys-loss-300x260.jpg


I like this pic for some reason.... :D

[Craig Walker]

Fixed it for my take...ya gotta throw some upsets in there, Craig.


Well, you changed 5 picks, and I'm guaranteed to miss on 6, so you have a great shot at 13-1. :D



Or not...

:D

[TNJ]

Or not...

:D

Well,
That's OK...all this proves is that you and your Saints are from THIS planet. :D

GO COLTS!!!

S.
j

[Bankston]

I drove by Reliant Stadium today. There is yellow police tape around it.

[jtm622]

I drove by Reliant Stadium today. There is yellow police tape around it.
:)
Was there a chalk outline, too???

[Darby Crash]

The Jets have won 4 in a row; no turnovers in the last 4 games; Sanchez has no interceptions THIS SEASON.

Nah, the Jets aren't for real. :rolleyes: :rotflmao

[Bulldog]

I can't quote you yardage.
I just follow the way he runs, and I'm telling you that the holes are opening better


And I just told you why. No one is stacking the box. If there's 6 linemen up against 6 defenders, of course there are going to be holes.

[Bulldog]

The Jets have won 4 in a row; no turnovers in the last 4 games; Sanchez has no interceptions THIS SEASON.

Nah, the Jets aren't for real. :rolleyes: :rotflmao

You'd hope so. Between their O-line, their 3 possible receiving targets and 2 rushers, and their top 10 defense, they should be competitive. Hell, this team would make Trent Dilfer look good.

[TNJ]

And I just told you why. No one is stacking the box. If there's 6 linemen up against 6 defenders, of course there are going to be holes.

You're not getting it...there have been alot of past games with 6 rushing instead of 8...and Addai is running better this season compared to the last 2 seasons. I dont think the O-line is any better or worse than last year or the year before. Addai is running smarter and with more energy and urgency...and that WILL translate to more yardage this season, I predict (IF he stays healthy).

Let's check his yardage at the end of this season and compare to the last 2...then you'll understand. :)

GO COLTS!!!
S.
j

[Bankston]

:)
Was there a chalk outline, too???

Peter King said it best. The Texans are like the Bengals. Neither of them can stand prosperity.

I know one thing. With the worst defense in the league, the Texans will not make the playoffs unless they can fix what's wrong.

I simply cannot understand why Houston plays better on the road than they do at home.

[DWB1960]

The Jets have won 4 in a row; no turnovers in the last 4 games; Sanchez has no interceptions THIS SEASON.

Jets are for real. They are playing well in all facets of the game. Rex has them believing. Sanchez is becoming a leader - love his sideline demeanor last night. I love their two headed running attack. One is going to run over you and the other is going to make you miss. Their defense is solid. Their O-line is solid. Their receivers are making plays.

I'd put them in the upper elite of the AFC right now. Above both the Pats and the Colts.

[GovernorSilver]

You'd hope so. Between their O-line, their 3 possible receiving targets and 2 rushers, and their top 10 defense, they should be competitive. Hell, this team would make Trent Dilfer look good.

Funny you mention Dilfer. This Jets team does remind me a lot of the 2001 Ravens that won a Superbowl.

[thesteve]

Coming in at 31-31...here's my list of winners:

Jags over Buffalo
Cincy over TB -1
ATL over Cle
Rams over Lions (though I hope I'm wrong) -1
Indy over KC (welcome to 3-1)
Pack over Skins -1
DA BEARS over the Painters (unless Cutler throws for -13 yards again...though that might be enough...)
BAL over Denver
Giants over Texans (okay...I bought NYG D-Line big time)
NOLA over AZ (Cards are terrible) -1
Tenn over Dal
San Diego over Oakland (and the streak continues) -1
Iggles over Niners (even with Kolb)
Jets over Vikes (get Favre a crutch)
__________________
9-5
Apparently I did better than I thought...that Chargers loss put me in a mental tailspin.

Brings me to 40-36 for the year

[Jahn]

Saints over Cards
Jags over Bills
Ravens over Broncos
Chiefs over Colts
Giants over Texans
Bengals over Bucs
Packers over Redskins
Rams over Lions
Bears over Panthers
Falcons over Browns
Cowboys over Titans
Chargers over Raiders
Eagles over Niners
Jets over Vikings

Well, not SO bad this time.

[DaBlizzardofOz]

Anyone else really impressed by Antonio Cromartie last night? Not too many guys could handle going one on one with Moss, especially with Farve throwing. That one touchdown was just an incredible throw - the coverage was right there, nothing he could do.

I'm glad the Jets are done playing Moss for the season. To all the other teams, good luck stopping that bomb 10 times a game.

[GovernorSilver]

Anyone else really impressed by Antonio Cromartie last night? Not too many guys could handle going one on one with Moss, especially with Farve throwing. That one touchdown was just an incredible throw - the coverage was right there, nothing he could do.

I'm glad the Jets are done playing Moss for the season. To all the other teams, good luck stopping that bomb 10 times a game.

That's why we Charger fans were so excited to see Cromartie emerge in 2007 as a Pro Bowl talent. His NFL combine time was not close to his true speed, as he was coming off an injury. When he really wants to play, no WR can outrun him, and he's a terror on returns off of picks. While I've mentioned his faults before, he does bring those things to the table.

The Giants had a comparably fast CB in the Superbowl - I think it was Aaron Ross - he posted the fastest 40 time of all CBs in his class. Having one of those to run with Moss helped a lot in that upset win.

[jetsnation]

You'd hope so. Between their O-line, their 3 possible receiving targets and 2 rushers, and their top 10 defense, they should be competitive. Hell, this team would make Trent Dilfer look good.

You can say the same about the Vikings when they get Sydney Rice back.
If the Vikings win the next two games they'll be off to the races and I think they'll end up with the best record in the NFC. Obviously Favre's health plays an important role.

[DWB1960]

Obviously Favre's health plays an important role.

And potential suspension.

[yodude]

And potential suspension.
There is no question Goodell will suspend him. Classic text book sexual harassment. He's not even doing the old deny because he's nailed to the wall

[TNJ]

"Pants on the Ground...Pants on the Ground!".

:D

S.
j

[Twangzilla]

There is no question Goodell will suspend him. Classic text book sexual harassment. He's not even doing the old deny because he's nailed to the wall

Has anybody ever been suspended for a first time offense that didn't involve criminal activity or drugs?

[yodude]

Has anybody ever been suspended for a first time offense that didn't involve criminal activity or drugs?
um, several times, Big Ben being the last

[DWB1960]

um, several times, Big Ben being the last

Big Ben and now Mediocre Brett. :D

[Twangzilla]

um, several times, Big Ben being the last

That was not a first time offense, and it involved alleged rape, which is most certainly criminal activity. Try again.

[yodude]

That was not a first time offense, and it involved alleged rape, which is most certainly criminal activity. Try again.
all right, I'll try again. No charges were filed, so it wasn't even close to a rape.

[Twangzilla]

all right, I'll try again. No charges were filed, so it wasn't even close to a rape.


This isn't about breaking the law but breaking the personal conduct policy. Ben broke it twice in goodell's eyes in a short time span. Both of his alleged offenses were worse than Favre's. Two offenses, not one. Sorry, you are just grasping at straws.

[DWB1960]

Sorry, you are just grasping at straws.

Blatant sexual harassment in the workplace including sending lewd pictures of your genitals to a much younger female employee?

Unless he's proven innocent Goodall has no choice but to levee some serious punishment.

One could almost argue that what Ben did wasn't as bad as the girl did not work for the Steelers.

Jen Sterger could sue the shit out of the NY Jets and the NFL I'd imagine.

[Twangzilla]

Blatant sexual harassment in the workplace including sending lewd pictures of your genitals to a much younger female employee?

Unless he's proven innocent Goodall has no choice but to levee some serious punishment.

One could almost argue that what Ben did wasn't as bad as the girl did not work for the Steelers.

Jen Sterger could sue the shit out of the NY Jets and the NFL I'd imagine.

Calling a co-worker and trying to get together with her is arguably worse than raping a girl in a bathroom stall? Wow...

[jetsnation]

including sending lewd pictures of your genitals to a much younger female employee?



we've all done it

[DWB1960]

Calling a co-worker and trying to get together with her is arguably worse than raping a girl in a bathroom stall? Wow...

Not what I'm saying at all.

The NFL and The Jets are both businesses. If Ben had in fact raped that girl, neither the NFL or The Jets could be held liable. Ben would pay 100% of the penalty.

Because both Favre and Sterger were employees of The Jets and the NFL, both businesses could be held liable for their employees sexual harassment.

So Goodell, being the commissioner and in charge of keeping the best interests of the businesses he represents in mind, can't let Favre walk away from this unscathed.

Which do you think the company I work for thinks is a worse offense:

1. Me on my off-hours allegedly raping some college girl.

2. Me sending nude pictures of my junk to a female co-worker.

[Twangzilla]

Not what I'm saying at all.

The NFL and The Jets are both businesses. If Ben had in fact raped that girl, neither the NFL or The Jets could be held liable. Ben would pay 100% of the penalty.

Because both Favre and Sterger were employees of The Jets and the NFL, both businesses could be held liable for their employees sexual harassment.

So Goodell, being the commissioner and in charge of keeping the best interests of the businesses he represents in mind, can't let Favre walk away from this unscathed.

Which do you think the company I work for thinks is a worse offense:

1. Me on my off-hours allegedly raping some college girl.

2. Me sending nude pictures of my junk to a female co-worker.

It is a bit different. You are not the face of your company. The Ben fiasco cost the NFL in revenue, how many female/kids Rapistberger jerseys are they going to sell this year?

How much would Sterger really get anyways? She was never pressured into anything and seems like everything happened during off hours. She didn't file sexual harassment, and there is probably no way the NFL can prove the authenticity of the pictures. The voice mails are pathetic but harmless.

The conduct policy is clearly not about bottom line dollars. It is about upholding Nfl players to a higher standard than other sports.

[DWB1960]

The conduct policy is clearly not about bottom line dollars. It is about upholding Nfl players to a higher standard than other sports.

I'm not even sure what Favre is suppose to have done (not only with Sterger but supposedly with a couple of female massage therapists) would fall under the personal conduct code. Again, one employee sexually harassing 1 or even more co-workers.

In today's litigious society I'd imagine Goodell is going to want a clear and strong message sent to the rest of the employees of the NFL. Especially on the heels on the NY Jets and that Hispanic reporter.

In that instance it was a number of members of the Jets and their staff involved so much harder to punish any single person. Brett is riding this wave all alone.

We can debate this all we want, but I'd rather sit back and see what happens.

[Craig Walker]

Has anybody ever been suspended for a first time offense that didn't involve criminal activity or drugs?


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5670800

Under the personal conduct policy, the commissioner has wide latitude in disciplinary matters. Even a first-time violator can face suspension if he is determined to have damaged the reputation and the integrity of the NFL.


I can't believe he didn't do it. If I was accused and didn't do it, I'd be screaming it from the rooftops.

[Craig Walker]

Calling a co-worker and trying to get together with her is arguably worse than raping a girl in a bathroom stall? Wow...


You don't know that. If it was proven he "raped" or tried to rape her, he'd be in jail.

[Craig Walker]

In today's litigious society I'd imagine Goodell is going to want a clear and strong message sent to the rest of the employees of the NFL.


That's what amazes me if this turns out to be true.

How absolutely stupid can you be?

Send pix of yourself to a stranger? No chance that's gonna end up on the internet...

[DWB1960]

How absolutely stupid can you be?


Considering the guy is so full of himself and the fact that the universe revolves around him, are you really that surprised?

[Craig Walker]

Considering the guy is so full of himself and the fact that the universe revolves around him, are you really that surprised?


Yes and no.


Boy, talk about going from 'highly revered, best ever' to ending your career in an embarrassing scrap heap. :messedup


I'd love to know if Deanna has seen said photos, and what her reaction was...

[jetsnation]

Considering the guy is so full of himself and the fact that the universe revolves around him, are you really that surprised?

I'm not making excuses for him, but he seems like a really dim guy who is cursed with money and fame. Most men can't handle it, not even the smart ones.

He leads a bizarre life as soon as he walks out the door. He can't walk ten feet without people running up to him, telling him how great he is, posing for pictures with him. Throw in millions of dollars and smoking hot women willing to sleep with him at the drop of a hat... never having to wait in line or pay a check at a restaurant... star-struck people making fools of themselves...most men can't handle it and most start really believing they are God. Very few guys like this lead solid lives and remain loyal to wives and family. He was just dumb enough to leave an internet trail.

It's not just athletes, it's CEO's and wealthy and powerful people in all industries... we've never dealt with such a bizarre lifestyle.

[Twangzilla]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5670800

I can't believe he didn't do it. If I was accused and didn't do it, I'd be screaming it from the rooftops.

It is completely unprecedented and has never happened before, so anyone that says it is a sure thing is clueless. Maybe some of the guys on TGP are drinking buddies with Goodell.

I would not address it with the media if I was in his situation. Addressing it gives it validity.

You don't know that. If it was proven he "raped" or tried to rape her, he'd be in jail.


It hasn't been "proven" Favre did anything inappropriate either. Those pictures are gonna be pretty hard to prove even if they are real. I doubt the NFL would make Favre drop his pants for an inspection.

[jetsnation]

It hasn't been "proven" Favre did anything inappropriate either. Those pictures are gonna be pretty hard to prove even if they are real. I doubt the NFL would make Favre drop his pants for an inspection.

If you were Favre meeting with Goodell, and he point blank asked you if that was you in the picture, what would you say?

[DWB1960]

It is completely unprecedented and has never happened before, so anyone that says it is a sure thing is clueless. Maybe some of the guys on TGP are drinking buddies with Goodell.

And maybe some of the guys on TGP have been enjoying them photos a bit too much.... :D

[Twangzilla]

If you were Favre meeting with Goodell, and he point blank asked you if that was you in the picture, what would you say?

If I was Bret, "uhhh, hmmm uhhh, I don't believe that was me at that time in those uuuhhh pictures."

[Craig Walker]

It is completely unprecedented and has never happened before, so anyone that says it is a sure thing is clueless. [quote]

So is alleged pix of a HOF QB's privates.

[quote]I would not address it with the media if I was in his situation. Addressing it gives it validity.

I'd say "I didn't do it. Period. Not answering anymore questions about it."


It hasn't been "proven" Favre did anything inappropriate either. Those pictures are gonna be pretty hard to prove even if they are real. I doubt the NFL would make Favre drop his pants for an inspection.

Mrs. Favre could testify. I'm sure she's not too pleased right now if this is real. I was just reading on another site that they almost split due to his cheating earlier in their relationship [quoted from her book].


I'd think she'd have a pretty good paycheck coming out of all this if it's true.

[jetsnation]

If I was Bret, "uhhh, hmmm uhhh, I don't believe that was me at that time in those uuuhhh pictures."

It's a tough decision because this is a judgement call on Goddell's part and players have got in more trouble for lying than their actions.

If Sterger doesn't confirm the story Favre can deny it and probably get off. But you have to figure the plastic-titted bimbo will start singing like a canary very soon if the Favre camp doesn't throw money at her.

[Craig Walker]

I believe I read/heard that the phone number was recorded [not blocked]. Pretty sure that's gonna be pretty easy to track and prove/disprove.

[Craig Walker]

http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Food_and_Drinks/Sandwiches/Hot_dog_walks.gif

[Craig Walker]

Deanna Favre responds:



http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/derp_o_GIFSoup.com_.gif

[Bulldog]

I'd say "I didn't do it. Period. Not answering anymore questions about it."


By remarking on it, he makes it ok for them to have "claimed" he did it. And it's not ok. His choosing not to answer is exactly the correct course.

[Craig Walker]

Well, it says to me [my opinion only]:

"I'm not going to deny it, because when it's shown that I did do it, I look even worse..."


I don't care what lawyers would tell me or whatever, I'd be screaming from the rooftops if I was innocent. Doesn't help that his own wife has said he's done it before...

[Bulldog]

Well, it says to me [my opinion only]:

"I'm not going to deny it, because when it's shown that I did do it, I look even worse..."


I don't care what lawyers would tell me or whatever, I'd be screaming from the rooftops if I was innocent. Doesn't help that his own wife has said he's done it before...


And what this says to me Craig is that you are more concerned with protecting yourself than protecting what is right and decent.

It's not ok if Brett sent such photos. But the person who made it public is far more unpleasant and indecent. If Brett responds to questions, it makes their indecency acceptable, and it is not.

[Craig Walker]

Cause we all know that a guy who sends pix of his junk to someone he's not married to is highly concerned about "protecting what is right and decent".

Again, he's cheated on his wife before [according to her].

[Bulldog]

Cause we all know that a guy who sends pix of his junk to someone he's not married to is highly concerned about "protecting what is right and decent".

Again, he's cheated on his wife before [according to her].

Thanks for making my point.

[Craig Walker]

Thanks for making my point.


Which I fail to *get*, but won't lose any sleep over...