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CA_Dan
11-23-2010, 11:21 AM
I'm considering two books that look about the same. I figure someone on TGP has both, so which one should I get if I'm looking for more technical information on troubleshooting? Both are by Gerald Weber.

Tube Amp Talk for the Guitarist and Tech
http://www.borders.com/online/store/TitleDetail?sku=0964106019

All About Vacuum Tube Guitar Amplifiers
http://www.borders.com/online/store/TitleDetail?sku=0964106035

mark norwine
11-23-2010, 11:39 AM
What do you hope to learn? How to troubleshoot?

IMO, troubleshooting is step 2.

Knowing how amps function is step 1.

I will say that you won't learn very much about "how tube amps operate" from either one. If that's your goal, pass on both & look elsewhere.

These books will "feed a fish to you".....but neither will "teach you how to fish for yourself"

OlAndrew
11-23-2010, 11:46 AM
"The Ultimate Tone" - Kevin O'connor There's several volumes, but Volume 1 wil teach you the basics and more.

donnyjaguar
11-23-2010, 11:59 AM
Plenty of good info on the web for free.

mark norwine
11-23-2010, 12:02 PM
If you only make it through the first 3 chapters of "Valve Amplifiers" by Morgan Jones, you'll know "how tubes function" and the math associated with the surrounding components. In short, you'll know "how amps work".

mark norwine
11-23-2010, 12:04 PM
Plenty of good info on the web for free.

But plenty of completely f'd up nonsense mixed in with it....

Makes it hard for the uneducated to separate the wheat from the chaff.

LowellH
11-23-2010, 12:20 PM
Not guitar amp specific, but if you're looking to understand how tubes and tube circuits work, then I'd recommend "Basic Electronics," a 1973 Bureau of Naval Personnel Training manual. Barnes and Noble sells the unabridged reprints for around $12.

Chrome Dinette
11-23-2010, 02:42 PM
I would also recommend the Morgan Jones book.

Also, you can download the US Navy's Neets pdfs for free. they start with some physics type of material as it relates to electronics and procedes through tubes(and well beyond).

SamBooka
11-23-2010, 02:48 PM
I will look when I get home. I learned some troubleshooting by a) trouble shooting and b) Jack Darrs book.

Tonight I can take a look. If I remember all his books are pretty much just blurbs from various articles. One isnt more technical than the other.. more like one would have how to fine tune tremolo in an Ampeg SVT and the other is how bias a SE amp using the crossover notch technique.

5992
11-23-2010, 02:53 PM
Jack Darr's book (http://www.amazon.com/Electric-Guitar-Amplifier-Handbook-Jack/dp/1882580486/ref=tmm_pap_title_0) explains the basics of servicing guitar amps, but was written in the mid-60s to early-70s so it doesn't cover high gain preamps, channel switching, or FX loops but it does explain the basics nicely.

The last time I checked you could download the first half of the book (minus the schematics section which is the last half of the book.) in .pdf format. It is worth it to get the book, which is a reprint of the 4th edition and has some unusual schematics in addition to those of the more common variety.

SamBooka
11-23-2010, 03:23 PM
What was cool about the darr book is that it isnt tube specific.
Solid state amps have change much more than tube amps so it is more of a side note...but pretty cool.

Brazen
11-23-2010, 05:14 PM
I have a very interesting book, it's called:

Tube Guitar Amplifier Essentials" by Gerald Weber.

It covers quite a bit about tube amps and also have Q&A in the last chapter. Check it out.

Trout
11-23-2010, 05:20 PM
I always found the collection of online books to be invaluable.

4.22 gigabytes of tube lovers stuff (http://www.tubebooks.org/technical_books_online.htm)

Edit,

I also find that if you dig deep enough into the Bunker Of Doom (http://208.190.133.201/) you will find lots of info long forgotten.

Edit

Another Site
Technophool (http://www.audiophool.cjb.net/Techno.html)

Prairie Dawg
11-23-2010, 06:50 PM
I always found the collection of online books to be invaluable.

4.22 gigabytes of tube lovers stuff (http://www.tubebooks.org/technical_books_online.htm)

Edit,

I also find that if you dig deep enough into the Bunker Of Doom (http://208.190.133.201/) you will find lots of info long forgotten.

Edit

Another Site
Technophool (http://www.audiophool.cjb.net/Techno.html)

Ned is long gone from Triode Electronics but they still have his dusty files on the website.

SamBooka
11-23-2010, 09:27 PM
All about is the most recent one.. mine is signed 2009.
They are both interesting, but I think All About is the one you "would" want.

Personally if I had to have one book on the topics you list, I wouldnt take either of those books.

I am going out on a limb here.. Tino Zottola Vacuum TUbe Guitar and Bass Theory and Repair. I have a good selection of books. Nothing jumps out at me as a desert island book cept for maybe my RCA recieving manual.

Melvin Blencowes books is very good.. right up there with Morgan Jones'. I also found RObert Megantz's book insightful.

If I read 10% of the books I had I wouldnt be asking quite so many silly questions.

barks2much
11-23-2010, 11:27 PM
Great links,highly useful.Again,thank you for sharing the info.

WinterSun
11-23-2010, 11:38 PM
Guitar Amplifier Handbook - Dave Hunter (http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Amplifier-Handbook-Understanding-ebook/dp/B004CRTAIA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1290580448&sr=8-3)

Dave Hunter is one of my favorite guitar writers. His books are very thorough, but he's deliberate about applying the information to practical use. In this book he takes you step by step through the circuits of some very influential amps.

Trout
11-24-2010, 03:53 AM
I read lots of old HiFi designer books
after all,
a good guitar amps is just a poorly designed HiFi :hide2

JJman
11-24-2010, 07:21 PM
I find the Morgan Jones book to be the least helpful and relevant to guitar amps. I have repaired, modified, built and even designed amps and still can't get much from it. I seem to be the only one from everything I read online.

I have the 2 by G Weber, the one by Aspen Pittman, the Tom Mitchell one. All of them have some good stuff and some useless stuff in them.

I wish the internet was more plentiful when I started getting into this stuff. Here are 2 sites that have some excellent useful info on them:

http://www.aikenamps.com/

http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/

wavey63
11-25-2010, 06:08 AM
I like the Dave Hunter books. Pitmans book and Webers booksare inda on again off again for info. I am also looking into books and am trying to find one that does step by step biasing and the like. Still lookin...

Dawg76
11-25-2010, 06:24 AM
Guitar Amplifier Handbook - Dave Hunter (http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Amplifier-Handbook-Understanding-ebook/dp/B004CRTAIA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1290580448&sr=8-3)

Dave Hunter is one of my favorite guitar writers. His books are very thorough, but he's deliberate about applying the information to practical use. In this book he takes you step by step through the circuits of some very influential amps.


+1 for Dave Hunter's book. Love it.

djdrdave
12-10-2010, 10:14 AM
Looks like Dave Hunter has lots of good books. Might check him out at the store or order him on my Kindle