CAA OD100SH with a Stratocaster!!

[Fretmaster]

I feel like an idiot saying this but why didn't anyone tell me to play my OD100 with a Strat!? I spend 90% of my time playing an LP or the like and love the OD with the LP but holy sh-t does this thing sound amazing with a Strat! I just plugged in a Custom Shop Showmaster this evening for about an hour and was competely taken by surprise. She's a completely different (and I think even better) animal with a Strat style guitar. The cleans are fabulous and the overdrive, well that goes without saying on this amp. She flat out smokes without a doubt. And the balance between channels and boost even seem better with the Showmaster. I am seriously rethinking my desire to let this one go from my collection. The only thing is now I don't know what to sell since I HAVE to downsize and truly love every amp I own. Damn this sickness!! Any way, major cudos to Suhr and the OD100SH. She's flat out awesome without a doubt.:dude

Steve

[trisonic]

I've noticed that it is very rare with these kinds of amps (I include Two Rock and Fuchs) to hear clips of Strats (or any single coils) - I think they are missing out on a considerable slice of the market. Let's hear some Strats with "quack", please.

Best, Pete.

[Fretmaster]

Originally posted by trisonic
I've noticed that it is very rare with these kinds of amps (I include Two Rock and Fuchs) to hear clips of Strats (or any single coils) - I think they are missing out on a considerable slice of the market. Let's hear some Strats with "quack", please.

Best, Pete.

The Showmaster actually has a 59' PAF in the bridge but the single sound fantastic too! I really like the way the strat comes through this amp. Very sweet.

[bjm007]

I've gotta try one of these ;) It's killin me that I haven't ever made time for the opportunity.

I kinda feel the same way about my Two Rock Custom Reverb. There are just soooooooo many different tones in that amp, including quite a few that sound amazing with single coils, that I never cease to be amazed by it.

Glad you're diggen the CAA.............

[MightyGuru]

Originally posted by Fretmaster
The Showmaster actually has a 59' PAF in the bridge but the single sound fantastic too! I really like the way the strat comes through this amp. Very sweet.

Totally agree. Some of my fave tones are Scott Henderson's with a Suhr+CAA.

[bluesmostly]

I've had mine a couple of weeks now and I must concur. I love it with HB's, but something about the way this amp puts out makes me wanna play my strats with it - on both channels. I love it.

[Steve Snider]

Originally posted by bluesmostly
I've had mine a couple of weeks now and I must concur. I love it with HB's, but something about the way this amp puts out makes me wanna play my strats with it - on both channels. I love it.


Me too! I love this amp with both my HB equipped and pure SCs but the amp is the best I have ever played with a strat. Turn the sucker up a bit and it is absolutely amazing.

[bluesmostly]

Originally posted by Steve Snider
Me too! I love this amp with both my HB equipped and pure SCs but the amp is the best I have ever played with a strat. Turn the sucker up a bit and it is absolutely amazing.


Agreed, best strat sound from any amp I've used, esp the clean channel. Loud is better...

You guys talked about using the effects loop volume to crank up the tone at one point around here. Can you clarify that idea for me. Thanks.

[Blueser]

Originally posted by bluesmostly
You guys talked about using the effects loop volume to crank up the tone at one point around here. Can you clarify that idea for me. Thanks.

Patch a guitar cable from the input of the effects loop to the output of the effects loop. The effects loop level control is now an additional master volume, that really allows you to fatten the tone at lower volumes!

[Fretmaster]

Originally posted by Blueser
Patch a guitar cable from the input of the effects loop to the output of the effects loop. The effects loop level control is now an additional master volume, that really allows you to fatten the tone at lower volumes!

Very cool! Haven't tried that yet either!:) Although I'm not wanting for fatness now. This baby is PHATT already!:dude

[bluesmostly]

Originally posted by Blueser
Patch a guitar cable from the input of the effects loop to the output of the effects loop. The effects loop level control is now an additional master volume, that really allows you to fatten the tone at lower volumes!

Thanks Blueser, that's what I thought. I tried it. It does fatten up the sound a bit.

I turned up the volume on the front of the amp and the loop volume down. It seemed a little more compressed sounding too. I am going to try it again.

it is true though, this amp already does sound PHATT!

[Blueser]

Originally posted by bluesmostly
it is true though, this amp already does sound PHATT!

Agreed, but if you make adjustments on the loop level, and the master, and experiment in balancing both of them in different settings, you will find that it does help the tone in instances where you need LOW volume.

[cocheese]

Fantom1 let me borrow his Scott Henderson Tore Down House CD last week. Is that the OD-100? The tone on the title cut is one of my all time favorite strat tones ever.

[ejecta]

Are you still going to sell it?

[Fretmaster]

Originally posted by ejecta
Are you still going to sell it?

That decision has been torturing me. I had decided that I am and have been a single channel amp kinda player for a long time. For this reason when I looked at my collection trying to decide what to sell the OD made the most since being a channel switcher. But then I keep making the mistake of playing it and I think I'll be making a big mistake if I do sell it. The problem is I have vowed to myself and the Mrs. that I would get my collection down to no more than 6 amps and about that many cabs which means I still need to sell about 10 amps and a few more cabs. The problem is I love everything I have. I've spent years filtering through all the choices out there to come down the arsonal I have now and it is killing me to let any of them go at this point. I know there are lots of your guys who can relate to this. But when I have amps and or guitars that I have had for several years that still don't have but a couple hours of playing time on them it tells me I have way more gear than I have time. What's a man to do.:(

[Fretmaster]

Well... I got to play the OD100 again tonight for about an hour and a half and sakes alive I can't believe how good this amp is. The more time I spend on it the more I appreciate it and the Strat was definitely the magic ingredient for me for sure with this amp. It's been a long time since I've had this much fun playing a Strat. Any way, I wanted to mention to you other OD100 owners how incredible a match the OD is with Weber Silver Bell Alnico 30's! They really compliment the OD. They accentuate the midrange and round off the top end of the OD just perfectly. They bring out a lot of the tonal character I love so much about my lower wattage amps through my Alnico Blue loaded cabs but could never get with my big watt amps due to power handling. So if you own an OD and are playing it through a 4X12 you owe it to yourself to give this match-up a try. I guarantee you it will blow you away. And yes….the OD and the cab are off the market at least for now. Now I just have to decide what I am going to sell in there place. I hate having to make choices like this!:(

[Norjef]

A Strat doesn't have a humbucker in the bridge.
It is a bolt on (or set neck) with a humbucker in the bridge that may say Fender.
Ask Eric, Jimi, Jeff, Eric, Ike, Buddy, Buddy,.......

;) Jeff

[dickswifter]

Originally posted by Fretmaster
The only thing is now I don't know what to sell since I HAVE to downsize and truly love every amp I own.
Steve




Sell the Cantus . . . . . Sell the Cantus . . . . um, to me.

[Fretmaster]

Originally posted by dickswifter
Sell the Cantus . . . . . Sell the Cantus . . . . um, to me.


LOL.... but the decision for the next amp on the block has been made after a several hour long tone fest today and it's one I never thought I would offer up... my black widow tolex Komet 60 #29. This is one of the most painful offers I've ever made. The mission continues...:(

[bluesdoc]

Damn......... between Snider's and Fretmaster's ravings and my own conversion to strat (type) only playing, this makes me very uncomfortable........:eek: :rolleyes: I've been so committed to cheap amps, but life is getting shorter by the day. oh jeeze, what's a geezer rocker to do :confused: :rolleyes: :cool:

jon

[Fretmaster]

Originally posted by bluesdoc
Damn......... between Snider's and Fretmaster's ravings and my own conversion to strat (type) only playing, this makes me very uncomfortable........:eek: :rolleyes: I've been so committed to cheap amps, but life is getting shorter by the day. oh jeeze, what's a geezer rocker to do :confused: :rolleyes: :cool:

jon

Just go for it Jon. You only live once and this amp is a smoker!! It will give you goose bumps if you set it up right. And I'm still in the feeling her out stage with the OD100SH. I just keep getting more amazing tones with every session.:)

[bluesmostly]

Originally posted by Fretmaster
Just go for it Jon. You only live once and this amp is a smoker!! It will give you goose bumps if you set it up right. And I'm still in the feeling her out stage with the OD100SH. I just keep getting more amazing tones with every session.:)


You would love this amp Jon, I'm at the same stage as Fretmaster with mine and the tones I am getting with the strat style guitars (G&L's) are the best my ears have heard - single coils sound hugh !!:eek:

[bluesdoc]

Enablers!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

So, what sort of cab situation are you guys using? I saw the alnico mentioned, but is this a 4 12, 2 12, 1 12? etc. Inquiring minds need to know.....:rolleyes:

jon

[Fretmaster]

Originally posted by bluesdoc
Enablers!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

So, what sort of cab situation are you guys using? I saw the alnico mentioned, but is this a 4 12, 2 12, 1 12? etc. Inquiring minds need to know.....:rolleyes:

jon

I'm loving the OD100SH through a Roccaforte 4X12 loaded with Weber Silver Bell Alnico 30's. Sounds freaking incredible!

[bluesdoc]

So guys, where do I find out all the fine details....... reverb, loop, loop levels, etc, etc.

jon

[Steve Snider]

Originally posted by bluesdoc
So guys, where do I find out all the fine details....... reverb, loop, loop levels, etc, etc.

jon


Call me, I will give you a phone demo, describe the various settings and perhaps you will get a taste. The low volume phone demo will not give you a clue as to what happens in the room at high volumes but a small glimpse of it's amazing sound. Mine has the SE mod on the lead channel but they can be ordered that way stock.

831-758-7888.

[bluesdoc]

Steve, are you available tomorrow morning around 10 or so?

Also, have you guys seen the one Jaybird has in the Emporium? Same beast??

jon

[Steve Snider]

Originally posted by bluesdoc
Steve, are you available tomorrow morning around 10 or so?

Also, have you guys seen the one Jaybird has in the Emporium? Same beast??

jon


Sure now is better as tomorrow is Mothers day but hell if that works bettter for you , give me a call! Also JBs is the Same far as I know.


SS

[bluesdoc]

Had a gig last night and I'm wiped now. Headed for bed. We're driving down to the bay area tomorrow for MDay, but won't be leaving till about noon. If earlier tomorrow is better, let me know, Steve. email me.

btw, it was a great gig - with my pv C30!! :confused: :rolleyes: :eek: :) go figure..........

jon

[Steve Snider]

The PV 30 is a great amp. I have always felt that way. I also have a VHT PB 45 and that is great too but the Suhr amp is on another planet. I will be up at 10 am if you want to call!

SS

[bluesmostly]

Originally posted by Steve Snider
The PV 30 is a great amp. I have always felt that way. I also have a VHT PB 45 and that is great too but the Suhr amp is on another planet. I will be up at 10 am if you want to call!

SS

I also had a Peavy 50 and a VHT 45, both dual channel like the OD100 and good amps, and never had a complaint with either for gigging, but the OD100 really is on another planet, really,...:D

[SQUAREHEAD]

Originally posted by Fretmaster
I'm loving the OD100SH through a Roccaforte 4X12 loaded with Weber Silver Bell Alnico 30's. Sounds freaking incredible!



Hey Brother!

I have three Bogner Xtcy's. Two 100B's and a Classic.
How would you compare the Suhr with the Bogner XTCY Classic?
I also want to know "if" you can get a good high gain rythym tone out of ch 2 "without" boost...then hit boost for solos?


THANX!!!!
keith

:confused:

[mude]

have three Bogner Xtcy's. Two 100B's and a Classic.
How would you compare the Suhr with the Bogner XTCY Classic?
I also want to know "if" you can get a good high gain rythym tone out of ch 2 "without" boost...then hit boost for solos?

Yup. In fact you can adjust an internal trimmer to vary the amount of boost (you can now order the OD100 with the trimmers on the outside if you like as well - not on the one with the SE mod on the lead channel though for whatever reason).

Man, it has a big sound.

Evan.
(biased Suhr guy)

[Steve Snider]

Evan,

Today I had a couple hours of wankin' time with my SE modded OD100SH and I am in a state of disbelief. Anderson Hollow Drop Top, Amp, Bogner 4X12 with V30s and G12H30s in an X pattern and
the master on the second channel at about 10-11:00. (loud). The sounds coming out of this amp at that level with my setup (totally Dry) was the most inspiring guitar tone I have heard, perhaps ever. Rolling off the volume knob to get amazing crunch, footswitching into the best clean channel of any high gainer around, you MUST try an SE modded amp. John's favorite and boy do I see why.


SS

[mude]

Steve -

Funny that you should mention that I need to try one. Looking forward to just that before the end of the month. Can't wait to give it a go (SH on channel 1 and SE and channel 2).

With a delay in the loop (or just jumping it for an extra master volume), the OD100 seems to be able to be tamed quite nicely. Alway better louder of course, but using the loop really helps. I love having the seperate controls (including eq, bright, gain, boost, master volume) on each channel and then having the global master from the loop. John is pretty excited about this amp obviously.

Evan.

[Steve Snider]

Excellent!! This is quite a different beast, you shall enjoy it, I am sure!

[bluesmostly]

Originally posted by Steve Snider
Evan,

Today I had a couple hours of wankin' time with my SE modded OD100SH and I am in a state of disbelief. Anderson Hollow Drop Top, Amp, Bogner 4X12 with V30s and G12H30s in an X pattern and
the master on the second channel at about 10-11:00. (loud). The sounds coming out of this amp at that level with my setup (totally Dry) was the most inspiring guitar tone I have heard, perhaps ever. Rolling off the volume knob to get amazing crunch, footswitching into the best clean channel of any high gainer around, you MUST try an SE modded amp. John's favorite and boy do I see why.


SS

SS, I really like the lead ch on the od100. What would say is the difference with the SE mod?

10-11:00 is some serious volume on that amp :eek:

[Steve Snider]

Originally posted by bluesmostly
SS, I really like the lead ch on the od100. What would say is the difference with the SE mod?

10-11:00 is some serious volume on that amp :eek:

Here is a quote from John Suhr:

The SE Lead channel is a whole new ball of wax, more like the amp mods I did for Doug Aldrich and Reb Beach, more gain, tighter smoother and edgy at the same time, more refined than the stock channel. Probably not good for a vintage bluesy guy, Henderson would probably prefer the stock amp. Over the top an singing overdrive, big chords is what makes it happy, Cliff asked about more gain? You cant use more gain than this channel I think, yes it has more gain that the stock channel. I like it around 5 or 6, Steve had it around 7 or 8 and then you have to hang on to the guitar. It works well at low volume as well with some EQ tweaking, the front presence is removed and the global power amp presence gets put in it's place. Those of you who have the earlier SE mods, just turn your front presence to 10.
There is more of a difference between the crunch and lead with this mod. Crunch channel winds up be good for single coil slight breakup, step on the boost and look out.

[Fretmaster]

Originally posted by SQUAREHEAD
Hey Brother!

I have three Bogner Xtcy's. Two 100B's and a Classic.
How would you compare the Suhr with the Bogner XTCY Classic?
I also want to know "if" you can get a good high gain rythym tone out of ch 2 "without" boost...then hit boost for solos?


THANX!!!!
keith

:confused:

Hey Keith, The XTC Classic was my pick for the best channel switching amp available until I came across the OD100SH. You can do exactly as you described but in addition you have a clean channel that is truly remarkable. Truly some of the best cleans availble channel switcher or not. This was always one of my biggest complaints with the XTC's. Also the OD100SH is much more open sounding and brighter than the XTC yet not harsh or too bright at all. There is also a substantial amount more gain on tap with the Suhr. And it sounds bigger than than my XTC did when rolling back on the guitar volume or when using lower gain. The OD always maintains it's presence and authority at any setting. I am a classic rock / blues, vintage tone kind of player. I typically do not like high gain amps. But in all honesty I have to say the OD100SH has impressed me as much or more than just about any amp I've ever played for what it was designed to do. knowing my taste for vintage tones I don't think the SE would work for me but the stock 100SH model makes me giddy every time I play her. Hope this answers your question.

Steve

[bluesmostly]

Originally posted by Steve Snider
Here is a quote from John Suhr:

The SE Lead channel is a whole new ball of wax, more like the amp mods I did for Doug Aldrich and Reb Beach, more gain, tighter smoother and edgy at the same time, more refined than the stock channel. Probably not good for a vintage bluesy guy, Henderson would probably prefer the stock amp. Over the top an singing overdrive, big chords is what makes it happy, Cliff asked about more gain? You cant use more gain than this channel I think, yes it has more gain that the stock channel. I like it around 5 or 6, Steve had it around 7 or 8 and then you have to hang on to the guitar. It works well at low volume as well with some EQ tweaking, the front presence is removed and the global power amp presence gets put in it's place. Those of you who have the earlier SE mods, just turn your front presence to 10.
There is more of a difference between the crunch and lead with this mod. Crunch channel winds up be good for single coil slight breakup, step on the boost and look out.

Thanks Steve, that helps. I am in the vintage/blues camp like Fretmaster says so I think I will stick with stock. Cheers, David