So tell me about Tyler guitars...

[GM1]

I was at Tone Merchants last week and by chance picked up a Tyler guitar. I really did not expect to like these guitars at all. I mean they just never appealed to me. I have to say I was really surprised when I sat down and played one. It felt really good, very broken in and round sounding like my old Strats. I liked it better than the Suhrs and they are very nice guitars. So does anyone out there have a classic. The basic Strat three single coil model. And, how would you rate the finish on the classics ( Two Tone, Three Tone bursts) What kind of pups do you have?

Seems that the Classic is not his most popular guitar nor what he is known for, but being a traditional vintage guy the classic would be the right guitar for me. I have a Lentz, which is the best guitar I own. The Lentz is different from the Tyler. Hard to draw comparisons, the Tyler just has this broken in vibe I really like.

[dkap]

I was the same as you, I didn't think I'd like them either but was pleasantly surprised and _really_ liked at least 2 of the 4 or 5 a local dealer had in stock. They were the ones with the puke colored finish and they had unbuckers in the bridge. I found them very nice to play and extremely resonant. I may wind up getting one myself.

[miltwill]

I recently purchased a Tyler Classic and i absolutely love it. Mine is black with a tortoise guard. Suhr V60LP's and a JB trembucker at the bridge. I actually wanted to buy a Studio Elite, but this particular guitar just felt and sounded right. They do feel very broken in right out of the box. I think Tyler's craftsmanship is very evident once you pick one up and spend a little time with it. To me its not so much a fit and finish thing, but more the vibe and soul... it is not a piece of furniture at all, it is a guitar that was meant to be played. The neck and fretwork is off the charts good! Mine even smells like wood. Tone wise i was looking for something very even and warm, but still glassy and quacky... i didn't want something too bright or fake sounding. The Tyler nails this perfectly. Anyway, thats my 2 cents.

[TNJ]

I have a Burning Water Tyler with 2 DiMarzio Virtual Vintage Single Coils, and a Duncan JB in the bridge. No mid boost...just the straight SSH config.
The board is rosewood. The trem is Wilkinson.
This guitar sounds and plays just like the member above described. Strat like quack and bell tones with a bit of warmth. The neck feels broken in and the fretwork is just top drawer. I dig the scalloping too...playing up on the neck and riffing is a breeze.
Overall, great guitar...one of my faves.

S.
j

[miltwill]

Here are a couple of crude pics for all you gear pervs

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gspotwizard/my_photos

Hope this works!

[AJ Love]

never played a Tyler but would like to check them out sometime...interesting comments about the "broken in" feel...while I can appreciate the sentiment, I tend to like to break in guitars myself....as you play them over the course of time, they break in according to your own style and playing, which to me is ideal.... in that way a great guitar gets even better over the course of time

just my 2 cents

[3Sides]

I wish they came in a 1 11/16th neck width :(

[floobeedust]

There was a Tyler anniversary model classic that came out in the late 90's..I think it has Fralins in it [ I think ] and is about as vintage as a Tyler gets.....what pickups are in a particular Tyler make the world of difference to the sound..its a little misleading making comparisons between Tylers based on an assessment of one Tyler only ..there are a number of fundamentally different sounding Tylers depending on electronics , however they all generally have common ground as far as feel and playability goes...I take um over the rest of the pack ....

[TylerGuitarsUK]

Check out my website.
There's a ton of shots up there.

www.tylerguitars.co.uk

It wasn't just anniversary models that had Fralin's. Jim used them in Classics from about 96-99/2000. He then switched to Suhr's. I hear he is about to go into pickup production himself?

Steve

[Shark Diver]

I wish they came in a 1 11/16th neck width :(

Some do. I'm looking into one now.

[matt5150]

I was at Tone Merchants last week and by chance picked up a Tyler guitar. I really did not expect to like these guitars at all. I mean they just never appealed to me. I have to say I was really surprised when I sat down and played one. It felt really good, very broken in and round sounding like my old Strats. I liked it better than the Suhrs and they are very nice guitars. So does anyone out there have a classic. The basic Strat three single coil model. And, how would you rate the finish on the classics ( Two Tone, Three Tone bursts) What kind of pups do you have?

Seems that the Classic is not his most popular guitar nor what he is known for, but being a traditional vintage guy the classic would be the right guitar for me. I have a Lentz, which is the best guitar I own. The Lentz is different from the Tyler. Hard to draw comparisons, the Tyler just has this broken in vibe I really like.


I like the Classic- it shares the '59 backshape from the SE and has a more "vintage" appearance.

Having said that, the SE HD are my faves.

They have the SE body style and pickguard, but can be spec'd like any vintage guitar (3 singles, 6 screw bridge, solid color, etc).

I would agree with your "broken in" description. I went thru many guitars before my first Tyler 5 years ago. NOTHING feels like it.

The only analogy I can give is to go drive an old muscle car with a big block. It will leave you with the same smile on your face.

Matt

[tonefreak]

I only play Tyler s-types:

http://tonefreak.com/IMAGES/TylerSEHD.jpg

This is my #1

http://tonefreak.com/IMAGES/TylerSERetro.jpg

[Stefan S]

Yes, only Tyler S-Styles!
http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/42847/2909824130103067944S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2909824130103067944vugsBp)

[funkle]

Way to revive an old thread! I just got my first Tyler. I generally prefer 1 11/16" nuts, but the 1 5/8" Tyler 59 neck feel fine. 1 5/8 is usually not a problem on fuller necks like this.

[Jerrod]

Some do. I'm looking into one now.

Ummm... I'm 95% sure my Studio Elite has a 1 & 11 nut on a 59 neck carve.

[Droptop]

I love my SE.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l273/charlesbuster/08137_lg1.jpg?t=1246504304

Two Tyler Hot Laura single pickups, Secret Bridge Humbucker, Small '59 neck profile. Nothing like it, just an amazing guitar.

[lv]

I have a Burning Water Tyler with 2 DiMarzio Virtual Vintage Single Coils, and a Duncan JB in the bridge. No mid boost...just the straight SSH config.
The board is rosewood. The trem is Wilkinson.
This guitar sounds and plays just like the member above described. Strat like quack and bell tones with a bit of warmth. The neck feels broken in and the fretwork is just top drawer. I dig the scalloping too...playing up on the neck and riffing is a breeze.
Overall, great guitar...one of my faves.

S.
j


Steve,

Is this the one you brought over?

I've played a few Tylers - let's just say I forget about the headstock after hearing them....

[Bobby D]

Steve,

Is this the one you brought over?

I've played a few Tylers - let's just say I forget about the headstock after hearing them....

once you have one in your hands, the headstock becomes a MOOT point REALLY quick......:dude

[Shark Diver]

Ummm... I'm 95% sure my Studio Elite has a 1 & 11 nut on a 59 neck carve.

I just put down a deposit on an Ultimate Weapon. The specs list it as 1 11/16th.

[thenine]

I just put down a deposit on an Ultimate Weapon. The specs list it as 1 11/16th.

coolness. what finish did you go for?

[Shark Diver]

It's called Black Shmear/Silver Pearl.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll216/sharkdiver1/UltimateWeapon_BlackShmear-09078-Fr.jpg

[Stefan S]

The UW´s are phenomenal instruments, I´m thinking ´bout one too!:dude

[mightypudge]

Gawd!! That UW is sick! Congrats, and tone report when you get it.

[Ed DeGenaro]

I have many guitars...but nothing touches my Tylers in the S-style department.
Plus Jerrod has the one that got away...most amazing Tele ever.

[sanhozay]

This one is at Wildwood and it makes me drool. What a beautiful guitar!

http://wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/tyler/09125/09125.php

http://wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/tyler/09125/09125_lg1.jpg

[loftyrocket]

you dont want my opinion...

[matt5150]

you dont want my opinion...

?

What gives?

Matt

[Jerrod]

Probably another headstock h8er.

[loftyrocket]

i wont buy a guitar i cant stand the look of. paint. and the headstock.... How can you design that and say "Yeah, that looks good"

Wayne Krantz plays one and he sounds absolutely KILLER. but i could never own one. If i was given one, i would sell it.

These are just my opinions and i am not trying to provoke anything.

[matt5150]

i wont buy a guitar i cant stand the look of. paint. and the headstock.... How can you design that and say "Yeah, that looks good"

Wayne Krantz plays one and he sounds absolutely KILLER. but i could never own one. If i was given one, i would sell it.

These are just my opinions and i am not trying to provoke anything.

Cool. I understand. They are definitely not for everyone.

Matt

[Ed DeGenaro]

i wont buy a guitar i cant stand the look of. paint. and the headstock.... How can you design that and say "Yeah, that looks good"

Wayne Krantz plays one and he sounds absolutely KILLER. but i could never own one. If i was given one, i would sell it.

These are just my opinions and i am not trying to provoke anything.
It's simple, assuming you're actually a player if you played one chances are 5 seconds in neither the heeadstock or the finish would be any deterrent to owning it.

I never dug th headstock, but seeing that they sound so much more massive then other S-Style fiddles I'm gusssng it's the headstock mass, and I got used to it. Actully quite like it. Paiunt..is the shit as far as I'm concerned.

What I don't get is why you felt compelled to post a descending passive aggressive don't ask about my opinion in here. Are you from Washington State?

[Ed DeGenaro]

Cool. I understand. They are definitely not for everyone.

Matt
Put down the cooking sherry, a guitarist without a Tyler is like whorehouse without Red heads. Not every one digs 'em...BUT you either know or you don't...

[Bobby D]

Put down the cooking sherry, a guitarist without a Tyler is like whorehouse without Red heads. Not every one digs 'em...BUT you either know or you don't...

love redheads, and love Tylers :thud

[Ed DeGenaro]

love redheads, and love Tylers :thudtoday is my 21st anniversary being married to a redhead...trust me she's the boss around here.

[loftyrocket]

It's simple, assuming you're actually a player if you played one chances are 5 seconds in neither the heeadstock or the finish would be any deterrent to owning it.

I never dug th headstock, but seeing that they sound so much more massive then other S-Style fiddles I'm gusssng it's the headstock mass, and I got used to it. Actully quite like it. Paiunt..is the shit as far as I'm concerned.

What I don't get is why you felt compelled to post a descending passive aggressive don't ask about my opinion in here. Are you from Washington State?

Sorry? I have opinions. I wasnt trying to dis anyone. Like i said i am sure they sound great. I am sure the headstock is key to its incredible tone.

Yeah i am a player, and i play very frequently. I wont turn this into a pissing match. Im above that. BOTTOMLINE, if it doesnt look good, i wont go for it.

Since you like the women references. You dont look at a girl and say "look at the morals on that one." you are initially ATTRACTED and then you find out she is a keeper or a one nighter.

(EDIT: I had a picture of an ugly chick here, but i removed it because i didnt want to subject you guys to looking at it. so just imagine some hideous chick here instead... yer welcome)
She could perform the most ungodly h**d, but i will never know


congrats on yer anniversary though

[Bobby D]

today is my 21st anniversary being married to a redhead...trust me she's the boss around here.


WOW! 21 years of being married in this biz is QUITE an accomplishment. :beer

happy anniversary!

[Jerrod]

Sorry? I have opinions. I wasnt trying to dis anyone. Like i said i am sure they sound great. I am sure the headstock is key to its incredible tone.

Yeah i am a player, and i play very frequently. I wont turn this into a pissing match. Im above that. BOTTOMLINE, if it doesnt look good, i wont go for it.

Since you like the women references. You dont look at a girl and say "look at the morals on that one." you are initially ATTRACTED and then you find out she is a keeper or a one nighter.

(EDIT: I had a picture of an ugly chick here, but i removed it because i didnt want to subject you guys to looking at it. so just imagine some hideous chick here instead... yer welcome)
She could perform the most ungodly h**d, but i will never know


congrats on yer anniversary though

Then why bother telling us that we didn't want your opinion???? You were probably right the first time. Everyone is capable of deciding for themselves if they like the look, the feel, the tone, etc.

[loftyrocket]

I dont understand. I wasnt going to give the holier than thou thing and thats what i meant with the Im above that statement. It seemed to me Ed wanted to get into a pissing match. i was simply toeing the water and matt5150 made me feel comfortable enough to say my opinion. I should have known, i am, after all, on the gear page. But i wasn't nearly as hostile as Ed came off. Oh well.

Sorry for posting. I will now back out of this thread.

Continue yer regularly scheduled thread.

[matt5150]

Put down the cooking sherry, a guitarist without a Tyler is like whorehouse without Red heads. Not every one digs 'em...BUT you either know or you don't...

Damn vodka has me thinking screwy.:thud

Ed is right. EVERYONE should at least play one because you will "get it".

The only S shaped guitars I play anymore.

Matt

[sanhozay]

Do Tyler owners really get this tanked over the headstocks in real life? I mean, hello, maybe it's time to get that script for antihypertensives filled. Touchy crowd!

The Headstock was designed for tonal attributes and the graphics were to spark a response.
http://home.millsaps.edu/mcelvrs/Bush-mission-accomplished.jpg

[sanhozay]

Please make note, I want this one, too:
http://wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/misc/07029/07029.php

http://wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/misc/07029/07029_lg1.jpg

[sanhozay]

:bow

[lv]

Please make note, I want this one, too:
http://wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/misc/07029/07029.php

http://wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/misc/07029/07029_lg1.jpg

That is the finest looking shmear finish I've seen! Is that a standard finish or something special/custom?

[Ed DeGenaro]

Sorry? I have opinions. I wasnt trying to dis anyone. Like i said i am sure they sound great. I am sure the headstock is key to its incredible tone.

Yeah i am a player, and i play very frequently. I wont turn this into a pissing match. Im above that. BOTTOMLINE, if it doesnt look good, i wont go for it.

Since you like the women references. You dont look at a girl and say "look at the morals on that one." you are initially ATTRACTED and then you find out she is a keeper or a one nighter.

(EDIT: I had a picture of an ugly chick here, but i removed it because i didnt want to subject you guys to looking at it. so just imagine some hideous chick here instead... yer welcome)
She could perform the most ungodly h**d, but i will never know


congrats on yer anniversary though
i'll roll with that, back in he days before aids and marriage i ended up with some funky ass freaks, and tell ya what...they where the shit for sport sex...so, fat, thin, pretty, ugly...depending on your needs...well you either know or you don't. :)

[Ed DeGenaro]

I dont understand. I wasnt going to give the holier than thou thing and thats what i meant with the Im above that statement. It seemed to me Ed wanted to get into a pissing match. i was simply toeing the water and matt5150 made me feel comfortable enough to say my opinion. I should have known, i am, after all, on the gear page. But i wasn't nearly as hostile as Ed came off. Oh well.

Sorry for posting. I will now back out of this thread.

Continue yer regularly scheduled thread.
dude, i'm far from hostile nor the guy that needs a pissing match, just happen to say what's on my mind.

[Ed DeGenaro]

WOW! 21 years of being married in this biz is QUITE an accomplishment. :beer

happy anniversary!
especially since the wife has to put up with the likes of me.

[Pa'ani]

today is my 21st anniversary being married to a redhead...trust me she's the boss around here.

Hey Ed,

Congratulations on your 21st anniversary, many more to come... Enjoy!

[TNJ]

Hey Lou,
I did bring the Burning Water to your place oh so long ago.
Alex had his magic BW for sale recently...I dug his better than mine.
Playing his actually got me hooked on them.

And you KNOW how Brent feels about them!

S.
j

[funkle]

once you have one in your hands, the headstock becomes a MOOT point REALLY quick......:dude

I happen to like the headstock

[The Last Rebel]

What was that Tyler model that looked like a Tele? Something-oblaster, I think.

[John Hurtt]

What was that Tyler model that looked like a Tele? Something-oblaster, I think.

Tylerblaster

[The Last Rebel]

Tylerblaster
I just found it, it's either Tylerbastar or Tylerbaster, no 'l', oddly enough. Thanks.

Do any of you here have any idea of what one would be worth these days?

[Jerrod]

Tylerbastar. I have a BW Tylerbastar with a Duncan minihum in the neck that Ed referred to above. It's awesome.

[eliot1025]

I wish they came in a 1 11/16th neck width :(

They do! And most Tyler humbuckers come in Gibson or Fender spacing.
(There's even a nut option for 1 9/16 spacing.) Necks come in 3 sizes of the standard '59 shape - thin, standard, and fat. There's a V-neck, too. If you have dimensions or a neck to work from they will build your neck to those specs. I have a neck shape/size that's not officially listed - Jim calls it a soft V.

[eliot1025]

It's called Black Shmear/Silver Pearl.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll216/sharkdiver1/UltimateWeapon_BlackShmear-09078-Fr.jpg

This is actually a combo finish that became an option in 2008. It's a shmear on the flat surface of the UW top and glossy black on the rest of the body. It's the only way to get a Shmear on a UW. Beauty!

[eliot1025]

i wont buy a guitar i cant stand the look of. paint. and the headstock.... How can you design that and say "Yeah, that looks good"

Wayne Krantz plays one and he sounds absolutely KILLER. but i could never own one. If i was given one, i would sell it.

These are just my opinions and i am not trying to provoke anything.

No problem. I'm curious, though - have you ever played one?

[RvChevron]

I don't mind the headstock at all, and I prefer the bigger 4 lines logo on
the SE's over the smaller ones on the classics. I much prefer it's thicker profile over the thinner Fender ones.

I also think the modified pickguard shape quite nice.

Comes to think of it, I also find the CBS big headstock pretty cool, especially a reversed one.

:beer

[Stefan S]

today is my 21st anniversary being married to a redhead...trust me she's the boss around here.
Whow Ed, what a surprise! I´m impressed!
And that´s the big difference between women and guitars.
I´m happily married to my wife for fifteen years and I only want her, but with Tylers.......I want them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:banana

[atquinn]

My take would be that Tyler headstock lovers make up the majority of the populous. And the Tyler headstock haters are the 20,000. It just so happens that a good portion of the 20,000 frequent here. :cool:

My guess would be that people that have never heard of Tyler and don't give a rat's ass about the headstock one way or another make up 99.99% of the population. The other .01% hang out here :D

I used to think the headstock was absolutely hideous (and I'm no traditionalist when it comes to guitars), but it's grown on me to the point where I think it's cool. Can't compare to the Joe Guitar headstock though; loved that one the second I saw it! :rotflmao

-Austin

[ChicagoFraize]

And you KNOW how Brent feels about them!


And how Frank loves 'em too! My latest (Icewater) pictured below.

In response to the OP, Tylers are great on many levels.

> Neck - Out of the box, the necks feel smooth, comfortable, and "like home." The smooth matte finish, as opposed to a a shiny gloss-type makes sliding up and down a breeze. If you look up close at the third picture, you can see that the neck looks like bare wood. The rolled fingerboard edges further enhance the broken-in and comfy feeling of these necks.

**No amount of playing, over the years, on my other guitars has ever made them feel as broken in as a Tyler out of the box on day one.

The fingerboard below (madagascar) further enhances the beauty of the neck. Prior Tylers have also used fine cuts.

The neck width / shape is full, fills your hand, and is easy and comfortable to play.

> Tones - The range of tones is wide because of the addition of the midboost pre (with bypass), not to mention Jim's new line of pickups.

These are some of the best sounding, coolest looking tone machines available.....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Chicagofraize/Tyler08208_lg1.jpg

My prior Tyler's Headstock:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Chicagofraize/ArcticHS.jpg

Back of the Icewater Headstock:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Chicagofraize/08208_lg3.jpg

[J.T. Guitar]

Beautiful guitar CF.

[loftyrocket]

dude, i'm far from hostile nor the guy that needs a pissing match, just happen to say what's on my mind.

i guess i am not allowed to do so in regards to tyler guitars. :huh:rolleyes:

[WordisRed]

My next guitar is a Tyler HD or a Collings I-35 Deluxe... Dang! Hard decision :(

[JPenn]

Put me in the 20,000http://www.thegearpage.net/board/images/icons/icon7.gif I loved everything about the SE I had....it just didn't like me :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/JPenn/Gtar2.jpg

[PosterBoy]

I love my Tyler and it loves me back.

[John Hurtt]

Love my Burning Water 2K....and I dig the headstock. But I'm one that it took a bit to grow on me.

[HHB]

I'd love to just try one, dont see many here in the mountains. The headstock says confidence in your product, serious ballsy to write your name 6 times ( or whatever it is)

[stark]

Here's mine. Tyler Rules!
http://idisk.mac.com/starkcreative//Public/tyler.jpg

[gassyndrome]

Hmmmm...like a Jeff Beck/Seymour Tele, but from the future.

Very cool.

[Stefan S]

So, because you don't like it anyone who does must like potato noses? Must be nice to be so omnipotent. Maybe we should all just defer to you on what gear is acceptable. Unbelievable.

:dude:dude:dude

[J.T. Guitar]

Some people just have nothing positive to say about anyone, or anything... so they pour their negativity on others. I think the Tyler headstock gives it character. They play amazingly, and have few equals in the rock Strat realm.

[sanhozay]

http://idisk.mac.com/starkcreative//Public/tyler.jpg


Wow, Adam! Such a naked beauty!

[Shark Diver]

Anyways,

I really want a Burning Water 2k or maybe a UW in black and purple.



Best of both worlds:http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll216/sharkdiver1/TylerUWBW.jpg

[Droptop]

Anyone else think the Tele headstock is ugly? Boy do I love how mine sounds. Same with the Tylers. Don't be so shallow, pick for tone. No one can see your headstock on CDs unless its on the cover.

[mightypudge]

My new Tyler Studio Elite BW2K is the most versatile, comfortable, and lightweight guitar I have ever owned.

I am extremely picky about neck shape, fret work, and set up. The Tyler is perfect, top to bottom. The neck just feels like home to me.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3370/3657242431_36fdfa071f_o.jpg

[Mondoslug]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d38/mostlyslim/Tyler.jpg

[matt5150]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/Matt5150/DSC_03501.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/Matt5150/DSC00452.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/Matt5150/DSC00277.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/Matt5150/DSC00187.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/Matt5150/2ee2a21c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/Matt5150/NewTyler.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/Matt5150/NewTyler004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/Matt5150/DSC00451.jpg

[Mondoslug]

:dude

[loftyrocket]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d38/mostlyslim/Tyler.jpg

reminds me of

http://griffith055.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/two_finger.jpg

hehe. i will refrain from any sexual references

As i said, the shape bothers me, but its the name all over the place that really gets to me. I have seen a picture with just a signature, and its 10 times better.

[Shark Diver]

I was at Tone Merchants last week and by chance picked up a Tyler guitar. I really did not expect to like these guitars at all. I mean they just never appealed to me. I have to say I was really surprised when I sat down and played one. It felt really good, very broken in and round sounding like my old Strats. I liked it better than the Suhrs and they are very nice guitars. So does anyone out there have a classic. The basic Strat three single coil model. And, how would you rate the finish on the classics ( Two Tone, Three Tone bursts) What kind of pups do you have?

Seems that the Classic is not his most popular guitar nor what he is known for, but being a traditional vintage guy the classic would be the right guitar for me. I have a Lentz, which is the best guitar I own. The Lentz is different from the Tyler. Hard to draw comparisons, the Tyler just has this broken in vibe I really like.


Jame's shop is fairly close to you. Might be worth checking out. I know they are talking about another Tyler day at TM. Call Rob there for info. That would probably be the best way for some real info.

[J.T. Guitar]

Beautiful guitars... this thread has me jonesing for one. I love that red finish!

[Brian Scherzer]

I just deleted 62 posts in this thread to try to bring it back to the OP's intention....and banned one person. Please keep the thread on track.

[TikiJoe]

Thanks ... it was like watching a wreck.

[unzari]

I just deleted 62 posts in this thread to try to bring it back to the OP's intention.

Thanks.

[loftyrocket]

UPDATE, I just went to bust a dookie. Needed some reading material. Grabbed a Vintage Guitar magazine where i could relax and be comforted by Leo Fender's creations, opened it up and...


IT WAS A TYLER HEADSTOCK STARING BACK AT ME!!! AGGHHHHH.

Seriously though, headstock aside, their are some tylers that look pretty cool from the neck down. I am not a fan of "shmears" or "vomit" or what ever, but whoever posted that red one with the humbucker bridge... that was pretty cool looking.

[Stefan S]

I just deleted 62 posts in this thread to try to bring it back to the OP's intention....and banned one person. Please keep the thread on track.
Good choice, now we´re going back to positive communication!
Thanks!

[Mastervolume]

Put down the cooking sherry, a guitarist without a Tyler is like whorehouse without Red heads. Not every one digs 'em...BUT you either know or you don't...

my fav post ever

[Mastervolume]

Jims guitars speak for themselves. Awesome instruments!

[LordRiffenstein]

All I can say on the headstock subject is that I now actually LOVE the headstock. I also really love how pretty much all the Tylers stick out in a world full of bursts and boring colors.

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs168.snc1/6289_97654133037_549198037_2114437_271120_n.jpg

[Stefan S]

All I can say on the headstock subject is that I now actually LOVE the headstock. I also really love how pretty much all the Tylers stick out in a world full of bursts and boring colors.

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs168.snc1/6289_97654133037_549198037_2114437_271120_n.jpg
RIGHT!!!
Love ´em too!
http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/41946/2648942390103067944S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2648942390103067944IWQtWz)
http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/42938/2679087170103067944S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2679087170103067944wPhtAp)

[J.T. Guitar]

I wants me a burning water... Got gas again!

[TikiJoe]

Please make note, I want this one, too:
http://wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/misc/07029/07029.php

http://wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/misc/07029/07029_lg1.jpg

Too late. She's mine now! Hopefully I'll have the guitar in hand by the end of the week.

So maybe something good did come from this thread after all.

[mightypudge]

I wants me a burning water... Got gas again!Did someone say Burning Water? I love mine. In case you missed it...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3655774088_4187f5f24d_o.jpg

[mightypudge]

Too late. She's mine now! Hopefully I'll have the guitar in hand by the end of the week.

So maybe something good did come from this thread after all.Sweet! I've been eyeing that one up for a while. Enjoy!!

[J.T. Guitar]

Great guitars TJ and MP... not taking away from those, but I like the ones with the smoothed arm contour.

[sanhozay]

Too late. She's mine now! Hopefully I'll have the guitar in hand by the end of the week.

So maybe something good did come from this thread after all.

Good on you, bro! Happy Days!

[Shark Diver]

IfDid someone say Burning Water? I love mine. In case you missed it...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3655774088_4187f5f24d_o.jpg

If it ever needs a new home...

[mightypudge]

If it ever needs a new home...Bro', I sold every other guitar I owned to raise the funds for this puppy. When this gets sold, it'll be at my estate sale. :facepalm

[trisonic]

I saw one reviewed in a British mag (recently) that looked kind of like an old Les Paul Special - I can't see it on their website (and I threw the mag away)...
Anyone familiar with it???

Best, Pete.

[eliot1025]

Best of both worlds:http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll216/sharkdiver1/TylerUWBW.jpg


Wow! This is SO cool. Thanks for posting it.

[Shark Diver]

Bro', I sold every other guitar I owned to raise the funds for this puppy. When this gets sold, it'll be at my estate sale. :facepalm

Best BW I've ever seen. Enjoy in good health. :bow

[mslugano]

Did someone say Burning Water? I love mine. In case you missed it...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3655774088_4187f5f24d_o.jpg

I'm curious, are you able to match the perceived output of the HB in bridge with the neck and middle or is the HB a great deal louder?

I ask because I have been wanting to spec out a new one and have been considering the HSS thing. I am pretty much a SSS or HH kinda guy and have owned some HSS guitars where the gain difference is a bit too noticeable to make it work well. How do you guys with HSS deal with it?

Great looking BW, BTW.

[KennethC]

It depends on the choice of pickups, but I find the balance on my Tyler SE HD to be very good. The pups are JTS2500, JTS2500, Tyler/Duncan Trembucker(which I understand to be some sort of JB). All it took was some tweaking of the pup heights, and I was in tone heaven. The SSH config provides for an extremely versatile setup.

I can't say enough how much I like the JTS2500 single coils... thanks Jim for making such awesome stuff!!

[mightypudge]

I'm curious, are you able to match the perceived output of the HB in bridge with the neck and middle or is the HB a great deal louder?

I ask because I have been wanting to spec out a new one and have been considering the HSS thing. I am pretty much a SSS or HH kinda guy and have owned some HSS guitars where the gain difference is a bit too noticeable to make it work well. How do you guys with HSS deal with it?

Great looking BW, BTW.Thanks! I agree, I love the look of this one. My son picked it out of a three guitar lineup. :)

To answer your question; unlike other HSS guitars I've owned, with the Tyler I don't notice a drop in volume when switching from the HB to the singles. I just notice the difference in tone. The balance is perfect, even in the "in-between" 2 and 4 settings on the 5-way switch.

My BW came equipped with a Tyler Super HB and two Duncan Classic Stacks.

[Sammo]

I saw one reviewed in a British mag (recently) that looked kind of like an old Les Paul Special - I can't see it on their website (and I threw the mag away)...
Anyone familiar with it???

Best, Pete.

The mag with Bonamassa on cover? The review can be read online at **********.com website. Somehow the link goes bad like that. So if google "Tyler Guitars Mongoose Special" you should find it pretty easily.

After I saw the pictures and read the review. I had to have her. And I did. Heh. Great guitar.

[unzari]

I've never seen a Tyler up close and personal, so please excuse my ignorance but are the shmear graphics poly? They look very satin-y, unlike most poly coats I've seen.

[miltwill]

Did someone say Burning Water? I love mine. In case you missed it...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3655774088_4187f5f24d_o.jpg

Mightypudge,

Did you get that one from Soundpure? If so it is an awesome guitar. I actually have that picture set as my background image on my mac! Congrats on that one.

Milt

[zygoat]

I just got my Tyler last month. I could tell right from the start that it was a work of art, the attention to detail is just top notch. I have to be honest though, I didn't groove with a few things when I first got it. I wasn't used to the whole "rolled frets" thing. I found that if I played a certain type of run on the high E string, it would slip off the fretboard a little to easily. I haven't noticed that happening at all lately, so I guess I'm just getting used to the neck and fretboard now.

His '59 neck carve is the best feeling neck I've played without a doubt. Everything feels almost effortless. Great trem, and the guitar resonates unlike any electric I've played. None of my other guitars have been getting any action lately.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll44/cardinalofcrunk/P7020039.jpg

[J.T. Guitar]

Beautiful zy... if you ever want to part with it... let me know! What is that finish called?

[zygoat]

That's the black schmear.

Unzari, my schmear is kinda like a satin finish, it's got a textured feel to it. Very interesting. I don't think I'd feel comfortable taking it to seedy bars.

[J.T. Guitar]

That's the black schmear.

Unzari, my schmear is kinda like a satin finish, it's got a textured feel to it. Very interesting. I don't think I'd feel comfortable taking it to seedy bars.

You get to play somewhere besides seedy bars? Not me! :roll

[mightypudge]

Mightypudge,

Did you get that one from Soundpure? If so it is an awesome guitar. I actually have that picture set as my background image on my mac! Congrats on that one.

Milt

I did get mine from Sound Pure. Chris hooked me up big time. Great service before, during, and after the sale.

[mightypudge]

I've never seen a Tyler up close and personal, so please excuse my ignorance but are the shmear graphics poly? They look very satin-y, unlike most poly coats I've seen.Yep, very much a satin type of finish, and also textured a bit. It's really unique. Also the back of the neck has that satin "unfinished" feel to it.


Another reviewer put it best. The "bare wood" feel of the body and neck increase the "skin to wood" ratio and lend a really organic feel to the Tyler. It's quite something to behold and hard to put in words.

You know a Strat neck feels after 30 years of playing? That's how the Tyler feels, all over. Crazy.

[sdlogan9]

Put down the cooking sherry, a guitarist without a Tyler is like whorehouse without Red heads. Not every one digs 'em...BUT you either know or you don't...

My wife is a red head - :aok And now I am going to buy a Tyler !!!

[scruffydog]

I rember going to Sounds Great here in the UK many many years ago, just browsing the many high end guitars they had in at the time, then I saw my first Tyler, a burning water. I'd never even heard of them before and that guitar just stopped me in my tracks, so different from all the other stuff they had. I guess that stayed with me and in early 2007 I splashed out on a Tyler Dann Huff Classic.

Never looked back since...

:bow

[gainiac]

My Tyler rocks. I loves it. Phat where it counts, like a hot guidette with a big schnozz:

http://www.celebdrop.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/20334_LadyGaGa-ADB-013709.jpg

Where it counts:

http://i43.tinypic.com/27zgdb8.jpg

BOO-TAY!




My Tyler is like bein' googoo for gaga booty. You just want to grab it and squeeze!

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/433/theprecious0001uy8.jpg



:banana:banana:banana:banana:banana

[WordisRed]

THat is a beautiful color. Is that pickguard straight from the Tyler factory? It matches very well.

[gainiac]

THat is a beautiful color. Is that pickguard straight from the Tyler factory? It matches very well.

Nah....It came with a pearloid pickguard and I was like WTF Tyler?

So I called Jeremiah at http://www.sharp-concepts.com/ and he hooked me up with a 1/4" thick real copper pickguard for a bone and a half.

Jeremiah RAWKS!

I've got Peter Florance Voodoo Pu's in it as well. Peter is a great guy. On the back I have the Suhr BPSSC.....

[KennethC]

I think you mean Peter Florence Voodoo pickups :)

[smalahove]

This thread is like crack to my Tyler addiction.

Here's one of mine:
http://www.rabagast.no/FreshVomit/fv-07.jpg
(http://www.rabagast.no/FreshVomit/fv-07.jpg)

[Stefan S]

SSSwEEEET Vomit!!!!!;););)

[smalahove]

Thanks! I "spec'ed" it out and love it. I originally wanted something like this http://tinyurl.com/lhr3ng though :-)

[gainiac]

I think you mean Peter Florence Voodoo pickups :)


Sir, you are indeed correct. :JAM

[WordisRed]

Need more Tyler pictures!

[John Alexander]

...just wondering...I put in a new battery for the mid-boost preamp and it only lasted a week or so...:huh

...so...how quickly does the preamp circuit "eat" a new battery? Is it always drawing current when the guitar is plugged in? Do you have to unplug the guitar to turn it off or does the bypass button turn off the battery?

[phillygtr]

I'm sorry who makes this again? I'm having a hard time reading the name there...:D


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Chicagofraize/ArcticHS.jpg

[zygoat]

Man, after playing mine for a few months I can't help it.... I'm gassing for another one! I try to play lots of different styles and there is nothing it can't do. I haven't touched my custom shop strat for months. If I could have an Ultimate Weapon in addition to my SE I'd be in heaven.

[TikiJoe]

...just wondering...I put in a new battery for the mid-boost preamp and it only lasted a week or so...:huh

...so...how quickly does the preamp circuit "eat" a new battery? Is it always drawing current when the guitar is plugged in? Do you have to unplug the guitar to turn it off or does the bypass button turn off the battery?

I'm still on the original battery and I've had my Tyler for two months and play daily. I do unplug the guitar. If you're not, that may be the problem.

[Catoogie]

Jim assembled two Warmoth guitars for me way back in the day, they turned out great. Couldn't be happier. Great guy!

[ten60]

james tyler and the crew over there are very fine people. i have owned 5 tylers, only 3 left, and they are by far the best built, best playing and best sounding guitars in my quiver. the economy sucks so bad, i had to sell a couple. they brought close to what i paid to have them built. i hope i dont have to ever get rid of any i have left. rock on james , and thank you

[J.T. Guitar]

Played a gig with a Tyler Ice-Water tonight... My oh my... is there anything a Tyler can't do tone wise? And fat FAT FATTT tone! I could get used to that headstock with easy playing and sounds like that.

[WordisRed]

Played a gig with a Tyler Ice-Water tonight... My oh my... is there anything a Tyler can't do tone wise? And fat FAT FATTT tone! I could get used to that headstock with easy playing and sounds like that.

What were the body wood, neck wood, pick up choices?

[J.T. Guitar]

What were the body wood, neck wood, pick up choices?

It's an Ash/Maple Studio Elite Ice Water with JTS 2-Hot Laura Singles and a Secret Bridge... I'll try and get a photo of it. Sweet Guitar fo sho!

[matt5150]

...just wondering...I put in a new battery for the mid-boost preamp and it only lasted a week or so...:huh

...so...how quickly does the preamp circuit "eat" a new battery? Is it always drawing current when the guitar is plugged in? Do you have to unplug the guitar to turn it off or does the bypass button turn off the battery?

You definitely want to unplug it, but I have left mine overnight several times and it doesn't drain the battery.

Two batteries in 5 years on my BW.

Matt

[WordisRed]

It's an Ash/Maple Studio Elite Ice Water with JTS 2-Hot Laura Singles and a Secret Bridge... I'll try and get a photo of it. Sweet Guitar fo sho!

Yo what # is it? I am assuming its the 1 of the 12 run by Wildwoods

[J.T. Guitar]

Yes it is... Only 12 Ice Waters are going to be made? I don't know the number, but I'll find out. I've heard that all the Ice-Waters had been pre-sold too... Is this true?

[WordisRed]

Yes it is... Only 12 Ice Waters are going to be made? I don't know the number, but I'll find out. I've heard that all the Ice-Waters had been pre-sold too... Is this true?
Well it should just be on the back of your headstock.

There is one available on Wildwoods right now that I am on the edge of buying.

[Shark Diver]

Well it should just be on the back of your headstock.

There is one available on Wildwoods right now that I am on the edge of buying.

Better hurry, I love that one.:love:

[WordisRed]

Better hurry, I love that one.:love:

I am going to let fate decide. If it doesn't sell before my Birthday. I guess I'll just have to get it for myself!

[J.T. Guitar]

Well it should just be on the back of your headstock.

There is one available on Wildwoods right now that I am on the edge of buying.

You assumed it was mine... Not yet anyway... Those IW are schweeet!

[goodtone]

Never played a Tyler but I can see the obvious appeal . Excellent wood and workmanship makes a good guitar great ! The headstock isn't an issue . The tone is !! Gotta try one !

[banjoze]

Back to the original post: I have a Tyler Classic and love it. By far my favorite guitar I've ever played... Even over my Les Paul, which I love dearly...

Here it is...
http://i35.tinypic.com/2e3sbuo.jpg

[WordisRed]

Damn someone bought that Ice Water!!!!

[J.T. Guitar]

Damn someone bought that Ice Water!!!!

I didn't think it would last long... they never do!

[banjoze]

that'll teach you to trust in fate... ;)

[WordisRed]

that'll teach you to trust in fate... ;)

Was it you!? Fess up!~

[banjoze]

no, but I wish it were! I have a Classic, but that one was righteous.... :)

[WordisRed]

People who have preordered Ice waters, were you allowed to spec it out?

[J.T. Guitar]

People who have preordered Ice waters, were you allowed to spec it out?

Good question... and are they all gone? :huh

[matt5150]

I think the Ice Water finish is/was exclusive to Wildwood but you can still order them.

The first run was like 30 pieces and they were numbered on the back.

Matt

[J.T. Guitar]

I think the Ice Water finish is/was exclusive to Wildwood but you can still order them.

The first run was like 30 pieces and they were numbered on the back.

Matt

I talked to Lance and I thought he said they were all pre-ordered and pre-sold... but maybe not.

There was a Limited Edition run of 36 total Ice Water Studio Elites made. (The Studio Elite has the unpainted "arm cut".) They were all sold out.

A Limited Edition run of 12 total Ice Water Studio Elite "2K"s will be made. (The 2K is all finished, without the "arm cut".)

I believe the one just sold was #8 of 12 and was the first Ash/Maple guitar in the IW 2K line.

[Graham Sloan]

I love my Tylers, a classic custom (custom classic) and custom ordered studio elite. They each have SD single coils and Tylers own HB. Great neck profiles and figuring; a delight to play. They do get close to the strat tones, for sure.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s264/DocSloan/2007_0106Tylers0003.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s264/DocSloan/2007_0106Tylers0001-1.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s264/DocSloan/2007_0106Tylers0002.jpg

[Shark Diver]

I tried to spec out one of these Ice Waters with Lance and I was told they would all be the same - like a limited run, no differences. Obviously this is not the case. I never understand why this happens. I would have bought one. Obviously they are not all the same. Just BS.:mad:

[J.T. Guitar]

I tried to spec out one of these Ice Waters with Lance and I was told they would all be the same - like a limited run, no differences. Obviously this is not the case. I never understand why this happens. I would have bought one. Obviously they are not all the same. Just BS.:mad:

To be fair... maybe you can't spec them out? When I talked to the boys at WW, it sounded to me like James selects the woods himself and builds the Limited Edition guitars one at a time to his specs.

[Shark Diver]

To be fair... maybe you can't spec them out? When I talked to the boys at WW, it sounded to me like James selects the woods himself and builds the Limited Edition guitars one at a time to his specs.

Cool, but they aren't all the same, so at that point what would be the harm?

[smalahove]

I tried to spec out one of these Ice Waters with Lance and I was told they would all be the same - like a limited run, no differences. Obviously this is not the case. I never understand why this happens. I would have bought one. Obviously they are not all the same. Just BS.:mad:

I asked Lance about this when the first "series" had come out, i.e. the ones with bare arms, and as I understood him, you're not able to spec it out - I asked coz I wanted a 2Yk version (i.e. wi/o bare arm). That came later as another limited series (12?), prob. by "popular" demand :-) ...

With the IC series there are variations; first and foremost body wood and neck wood, but it's not spec'able. If you want ash, you might ask/pay to get in line if one shows up, but you can't spec - so it seems at least. :-)

[Shark Diver]

I asked Lance about this when the first "series" had come out, i.e. the ones with bare arms, and as I understood him, you're not able to spec it out - I asked coz I wanted a 2Yk version (i.e. wi/o bare arm). That came later as another limited series (12?), prob. by "popular" demand :-) ...

With the IC series there are variations; first and foremost body wood and neck wood, but it's not spec'able. If you want ash, you might ask/pay to get in line if one shows up, but you can't spec - so it seems at least. :-)

Yeah, I understand that - but the way it was explained to me was they wanted them all the same because it was a limited series. No variations, which makes sense - until they have variations. They're not all the same. They aren't all made. So, spec'ing one should not be that big a deal. So, it makes no sense, but that is the way it is.

I love my UW Tyler, I guess I just won't own an Ice Water. :(
But I'll own another Tyler!

[smalahove]

I understand what you mean - and fwiw, I agree :-)

[J.T. Guitar]

Yeah, I understand that - but the way it was explained to me was they wanted them all the same because it was a limited series. No variations, which makes sense - until they have variations. They're not all the same. They aren't all made. So, spec'ing one should not be that big a deal. So, it makes no sense, but that is the way it is.

:agree Maybe James just likes building some guitars the way he wants them? If I put myself in his shoes, I think that's cool.

BTW- How would you have spec'd out your Tyler IW and why?

[Catoogie]

To be fair... maybe you can't spec them out? When I talked to the boys at WW, it sounded to me like James selects the woods himself and builds the Limited Edition guitars one at a time to his specs.

He used to get his wood from Tom Anderson back when he assembled my guitars. He had a load in the back of his Volvo wagon.

[J.T. Guitar]

He used to get his wood from Tom Anderson back when he assembled my guitars. He had a load in the back of his Volvo wagon.

Another great builder in Tom Anderson... amazing guitars.

[WordisRed]

Anyone know if the G2RV bridge is interchangable (with intonation adjustments) with the G2H? Do they have the same tremolo system underneath?

[WordisRed]

Wednesday I might pull the trigger on a Tyler that is in stock at one of the dealers. So the 5 month wait on my burning water isn't unbearable :beer

[Shark Diver]

:agree Maybe James just likes building some guitars the way he wants them? If I put myself in his shoes, I think that's cool.

BTW- How would you have spec'd out your Tyler IW and why?

I wanted this in Ice Water, with a maple neck (as a backup/2nd gig guitar):

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll216/sharkdiver1/UltimateWeapon_BlackShmear-09078-Fr.jpg

[Flinto2002]

Anyone know if the G2RV bridge is interchangable (with intonation adjustments) with the G2H? Do they have the same tremolo system underneath?


G2RV - G2 bridge w/ raw vintage saddles
G2H - G2 bridge with hipshot saddles


that help?

[WordisRed]

Well, no... I am asking if a guitar that already has the G2RV bridge tremolo system can switch to a G2H without any modifications other than the bridge itself

Thanks in advance

[matt5150]

Well, no... I am asking if a guitar that already has the G2RV bridge tremolo system can switch to a G2H without any modifications other than the bridge itself

Thanks in advance

Yes. They will interchange.

Would be easier to swap out the saddles as they are the same bridge.

Matt

[WordisRed]

Thanks a bunch.

[WordisRed]

Probably the best Ultimate Weapon EVER!

http://www.wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/misc/08234/08234.php

[J.T. Guitar]

I wanted this in Ice Water, with a maple neck (as a backup/2nd gig guitar):

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll216/sharkdiver1/UltimateWeapon_BlackShmear-09078-Fr.jpg

Sweet! :beer

[WordisRed]

So... I thought 5 month wait for my first custom Tyler to arrive was silly. So I went ahead and bought an LA Classic to keep me warm at night this winter.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/mchoi32/JamesTyler_LAStudioClassic_Shorelin.jpg

[Flinto2002]

Thats a bad ass looking classic. Don't show MATT5150..... Ooops too late...

[WordisRed]

Thats a bad ass looking classic. Don't show MATT5150..... Ooops too late...

Haha why is that?

If you guys look closely, this one comes with both the mid boost bypass switch and an add neck/bridge switch as well!

Matching gold headstock.

ANd I got the low output JT2 singles and a massive california special in the rear!

Can't believe this guitar was just hanging out on Make'N Music for over a month...

[Stefan S]

So... I thought 5 month wait for my first custom Tyler to arrive was silly. So I went ahead and bought an LA Classic to keep me warm at night this winter.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/mchoi32/JamesTyler_LAStudioClassic_Shorelin.jpg
The best superStrat you could buy on the planet!!!
Congrats!

[Ahess86]

Very nice.. you're killing me though. I'm probably only halfway to the end of my wait for the 2 classics I ordered.

[WordisRed]

Very nice.. you're killing me though. I'm probably only halfway to the end of my wait for the 2 classics I ordered.

What draws you to the classic more than any of his other models?

[Ahess86]

What draws you to the classic more than any of his other models?

Personal preference. His other models are great, but I like a traditional feel. After I get my 2 Classics and I give it a year or two for my wife to get over the fact that I have new guitars, I'll order a Mongoose Retro.

[JDouglee]

I agree the SE is cool, but my Classic just feels more 'manly' to me for some reason.

[eliot1025]

I tried to spec out one of these Ice Waters with Lance and I was told they would all be the same - like a limited run, no differences. Obviously this is not the case. I never understand why this happens. I would have bought one. Obviously they are not all the same. Just BS.:mad:

This might be a communication gaff. The first run of Ice Waters may have been the same but the second run (Ice Water 2K) were ordered by WW with variations. WW can spec them, we (end users) can't. If I remember correctly, WW ordered 6 Ice Water 2Ks with a given set of specs and another 6 Ice Water 2Ks with a different set of specs. When Lance said they would all be the same he may have thought you were asking about some aspects of that model that all 12 Ice Water 2Ks would have in common. (I took those orders. Given that there are a lot of possibilities for a Tyler guitar there were actually very few variations.) That kind of thing happens. You miss a syllable here and there and you've got a mistake. Lance always seemed like a good guy who had a handle on these complicated orders. He's been doing it for years. But even he missed a detail once in a while. I doubt that he purpously tried to mislead you.

[WordisRed]

I got a personal email from Lance saying that body wood and fretboard wood are the only 2 options that are selectable on the 2nd limited run of ice water 2ks. 4 or 5 left he said.

Also the next one available is 5+ months away.

[Flinto2002]

Well, no... I am asking if a guitar that already has the G2RV bridge tremolo system can switch to a G2H without any modifications other than the bridge itself

Thanks in advance

Take the G2RV, remove the saddles and replace with Hipshot.... now it's a G2H

So yes, obviously they'll fit as it is the same bridge.

[WordisRed]

my new tyler comes with a G2H, I dunno if I want to switch it out to a G2RV.

Trying to think of a reason other than I prefer the vintage look. Does anyone have any insight in terms of tonality?

[ChazMania]

That gold Classic is insane. It looks like a darker shade of gold than my shoreline gold tylerbastar.

[matt5150]

Your Tyler Tele is the shit.

I MUST have one soon.

Matt

[Shark Diver]

This might be a communication gaff. The first run of Ice Waters may have been the same but the second run (Ice Water 2K) were ordered by WW with variations. WW can spec them, we (end users) can't. If I remember correctly, WW ordered 6 Ice Water 2Ks with a given set of specs and another 6 Ice Water 2Ks with a different set of specs. When Lance said they would all be the same he may have thought you were asking about some aspects of that model that all 12 Ice Water 2Ks would have in common. (I took those orders. Given that there are a lot of possibilities for a Tyler guitar there were actually very few variations.) That kind of thing happens. You miss a syllable here and there and you've got a mistake. Lance always seemed like a good guy who had a handle on these complicated orders. He's been doing it for years. But even he missed a detail once in a while. I doubt that he purpously tried to mislead you.

I don't think Lance tried to mislead me. He's a nice guy. I actually went to the shop (Tyler) and asked about what I wanted first. I was told it was cool, then, as you said, it turned into a communication gaff. Only 3 of the UWs have been built, I will always think it's silly I can't change the bridge and neck wood for a build that won't even start until next year. :nuts

Again though, I love Tylers. I will be looking at getting a few more. I'm really not bashing anything here. Sorry if it seems that way.

[WordisRed]

Anyone know where I can pickup the G2RV saddle? Does Tyler sell stuff like that?

[matt5150]

Anyone know where I can pickup the G2RV saddle? Does Tyler sell stuff like that?

What state are you in?

Prosound Communications (Xotic Effects) is the distributor:

http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/shop/home.php?cat=250

Looks like you can buy them online.

Matt

[WordisRed]

Looks like he uses RVS-108 (10.8mm / 0.425 inch Pitch "Gotoh Japan" type

Can anyone confirm?

[LordRiffenstein]

These guitars see the majority of my playing action. 2004 SE HD Burning Water 2k, 2005 Classic Antarctic Mint Schmear and 2008 Tyler Mongoose Special Black schmear.

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs222.snc1/6932_138384903037_549198037_2654807_7696637_n.jpg

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http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs168.snc1/6289_97660523037_549198037_2114505_5799170_n.jpg

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[eliot1025]

I love that Antarctic Mint on a Classic body. I wish Jim still made that finish.
Is that a mahogany neck on the Mongoose?

[Shark Diver]

Man, those are sweet! I love the Mongoose. Great story on that one as well.

[zygoat]

Something I did on my tyler today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKptIEWaFeg

[ChazMania]

Something I did on my tyler today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKptIEWaFeg

Sounds really good man....me likey:aok Do you have your guitar set up with the bridge flat against the body ala fixed bridge to handle alternate tunings?
If I even try drop D with my floating bridge SE the other strings go out of tune.

[jakeddy]

Something I did on my tyler today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKptIEWaFeg

I actually made it all the way through that one, very nice. :aok

[banjoze]

zygoat, that was lovely.... if you don't mind my asking what is your config of pickups and what are you running the guitar thru (effects / amps)?

[zygoat]

Sounds really good man....me likey:aok Do you have your guitar set up with the bridge flat against the body ala fixed bridge to handle alternate tunings?
If I even try drop D with my floating bridge SE the other strings go out of tune.

thanks, yeah right now the bridge is floating. I know what you mean about going down to drop D, it throws everything way off.

[eliot1025]

my new tyler comes with a G2H, I dunno if I want to switch it out to a G2RV.

Trying to think of a reason other than I prefer the vintage look. Does anyone have any insight in terms of tonality?

The RV saddles roll off some of the upper highs. They worked out very well with my classic-sounding pups.

[TikiJoe]

Something I did on my tyler today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKptIEWaFeg

Excellent!!!:dude

[Flinto2002]

Sounds great!

Something I did on my tyler today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKptIEWaFeg

[Graham Sloan]

yes, that is really nice, brill!

[WordisRed]

Did I buy the last LA Classic in existence? I am sure glad I did! It is the best guitar I have ever played or heard. Truly that 3D, fat sound that I have been looking for.

Cost me a lot to get to this point but this is final destination for me!

[Songman]

Any of you Tyler owners a convert from owning a Grosh Strat? If so, please share your experience.

I always wanted a Tyler, never played one.

[banjoze]

great question (songman)... i've wondered how those 2 compare as well... love my Tyler Classic, but have never held a Grosh... a buddy of mine swears by his...

[WordisRed]

Any of you Tyler owners a convert from owning a Grosh Strat? If so, please share your experience.

I always wanted a Tyler, never played one.

I used to own a grosh strat. The feel is night and day. I prefer the Tyler by far. But the Grosh had some monster tone too but just didn't feel as comfortable.

[jiml]

I went through three in the past few months (two SE's, a Black Classic and a JoeX Black). Loved the feel, vibe, mojo, even the headstock. But, for me, the tones just weren't what I wanted, a little too hi-fi. Great axes though...

[WordisRed]

I went through three in the past few months (two SE's, a Black Classic and a JoeX Black). Loved the feel, vibe, mojo, even the headstock. But, for me, the tones just weren't what I wanted, a little too hi-fi. Great axes though...

Really?! Dammnn... You ever play Anderson guitars? They must sound like an icepick hitting a chalkboard. I just went from 1 grosh to 2 andersons to Tylers and the Tyler sounds the most vintage! The Andersons were the most hi fi to me.

[Shark Diver]

I went through three in the past few months (two SE's, a Black Classic and a JoeX Black). Loved the feel, vibe, mojo, even the headstock. But, for me, the tones just weren't what I wanted, a little too hi-fi. Great axes though...

Pickups? Wouldn't think the wood would make it sound Hi-Fi. Just wondering if you tried other pups/? And what you use now...

[jiml]

Really?! Dammnn... You ever play Anderson guitars? They must sound like an icepick hitting a chalkboard. I just went from 1 grosh to 2 andersons to Tylers and the Tyler sounds the most vintage! The Andersons were the most hi fi to me.

Pickups? Wouldn't think the wood would make it sound Hi-Fi. Just wondering if you tried other pups/? And what you use now...

They all have this "sheen" to the tone, kinda hi fi. I tried different Tyler pickups in them, and a set of Lollar Blackfaces too. Just didn't jibe with me. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame Tyler, I love his stuff, just didn't work for me.

I have a partso strat with a steel blocked trem, Lollar Tweeds, huge neck and heavy alder that has been my benchmark this year. I'm building another partsostrat now...

[Shark Diver]

They all have this "sheen" to the tone, kinda hi fi. I tried different Tyler pickups in them, and a set of Lollar Blackfaces too. Just didn't jibe with me. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame Tyler, I love his stuff, just didn't work for me.

I have a partso strat with a steel blocked trem, Lollar Tweeds, huge neck and heavy alder that has been my benchmark this year. I'm building another partsostrat now...

Cool, we all have different taste. Glad your strat rocks!:dude

[J.T. Guitar]

They all have this "sheen" to the tone, kinda hi fi. I tried different Tyler pickups in them, and a set of Lollar Blackfaces too. Just didn't jibe with me. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame Tyler, I love his stuff, just didn't work for me.

I have a partso strat with a steel blocked trem, Lollar Tweeds, huge neck and heavy alder that has been my benchmark this year. I'm building another partsostrat now...

Dang, you must have a fat sounding amp! Tweeds are a very weak "true" vintage sounding P/U... I would guess the heavy Alder offsets the more scooped sounding Lollars. Jason makes great stuff.

Tylers are just huge and fat sounding... not really too vintage toned, but they have the vibe.

FWIW- Tyler and T. Anderson are my favorites.

[jiml]

I have a /13 EDT13/29, that I run mostly in Class A mode (plenty loud enough). The amp and axe are a little "mid challenged", but I throw a TS9 Clone in front and use the mid boost on the amp to get me out front for solo's.

I have a set of Specials here too, I am going to wire those into a pickguard some day and try them in the strat.

[J.T. Guitar]

The Specials are a totally different breed... way to dark for me. I had a American Std Strat. My favorite setup were Blondes in the middle and bridge and a Tweed neck.

Tyler makes a Strat killer. The only thing I've found that out Strats a Tyler is my WW-10 with the Custom John Cruz P/Us. But, the Tyler still has a fatter tone.

[Songman]

Anyone here know how many guitar Tyler make in a year or month?
How about Grosh?

[WordisRed]

For Tyler I believe it hovers around 20 or so a month.

[WordisRed]

http://www.wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/misc/07284/07284.php

Kinda wanna buy this. Gonna call up lance and talk to him about it!

[J.T. Guitar]

http://www.wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/misc/07284/07284.php

Kinda wanna buy this. Gonna call up lance and talk to him about it!

Sweet! Although I'd be careful about advertising... Someone might jump on it before you do. :worried

[WordisRed]

I got a Tyler, I don't mind if this one is taken :)

[macerson]

What's everybody's favorite body wood for a Tyler, and why?

[J.T. Guitar]

What's everybody's favorite body wood for a Tyler, and why?

Whichever wood the Tyler I'm holding is made of... :aok

[TikiJoe]

What's everybody's favorite body wood for a Tyler, and why?

Alder ... because mine's alder.

[WordisRed]

alder is most resonant for me.

[J.T. Guitar]

The Ash Tyler's clean is heavenly...

[macerson]

Cool. Any mamywo folks here?

[WordisRed]

the most common adjective I get from people here and from dealers is that Mamywo is "spongey" sounding.

[Flinto2002]

Cool. Any mamywo folks here?

I've got one in mamywo. It is a killer sounding, lightweight guitar. Thick in the mids with plenty of balls in the bridge HB, cleans are still very stratty. I prefer Mamywo to Ash. I like Alder and mahogany best of all, though now days mahogany seems to be getting so heavy. So Mamywo is a nice compromise, it is MUCH lighter, and kind of sits between alder and mahogany tonewise.

[gerryguitar]

I've got one in mamywo. It is a killer sounding, lightweight guitar. Thick in the mids with plenty of balls in the bridge HB, cleans are still very stratty. I prefer Mamywo to Ash. I like Alder and mahogany best of all, though now days mahogany seems to be getting so heavy. So Mamywo is a nice compromise, it is MUCH lighter, and kind of sits between alder and mahogany tonewise.

I'd agree with what Flint says here...

Mamymo is a great tonewood that is somewhere between mahogany and alder...

this is my Mamywo BW...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwd0RNJtn3Y

[macerson]

I've got one in mamywo. It is a killer sounding, lightweight guitar. Thick in the mids with plenty of balls in the bridge HB, cleans are still very stratty. I prefer Mamywo to Ash. I like Alder and mahogany best of all, though now days mahogany seems to be getting so heavy. So Mamywo is a nice compromise, it is MUCH lighter, and kind of sits between alder and mahogany tonewise.

Good info to know. Thanks for sharing.

[macerson]

I'd agree with what Flint says here...

Mamymo is a great tonewood that is somewhere between mahogany and alder...

this is my Mamywo BW...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwd0RNJtn3Y

Nice tones!

[ChazMania]

Hollow Alder= my favorite SE.

[DocRock]

Something I did on my tyler today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKptIEWaFeg

That was excellent, man. Really.

[WordisRed]

first relic'ing on my new LA Classic...

I have no idea how it happened but I know what happened. The trem bridge on bass side has dented the body right underneath and a nice half centimeter indent has caused a check in the finish...

I think it made it sound better :dude

[LordRiffenstein]

MUST

RESIST

GAS

IS

HITTING

HARD

AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH

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[J.T. Guitar]

MUST

RESIST

GAS

IS

HITTING

HARD

AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH


What color is that? Sweet!

[LordRiffenstein]

What color is that? Sweet!

It's black n blue schmear. I'm gassing badly for a nice SE with maple neck and this one has one of the coolest paint jobs.

[Ahess86]

I'm not crazy about black and blue when its the satin finish, but w/ gloss it looks sweet! The blue really stands out.

[mp815]

I have a Tyler studio Elite HD and I love it. I didn't like the headstock at first but I got lucky with my headstock being the version which is a little less wide with less James Tylers names on it and I tell you I am used to it now and it doesn't bother me and I like its uniqueness.............. most of all what a great resonant sweet sounding beauty. mine is Copper Patina schmear

[WordisRed]

How many of you guys use your Tyler as a workhorse and beat the hell out of it?

Every single one I have seen is in PRISTINE condition! Show those well played ones!

[J.T. Guitar]

How many of you guys use your Tyler as a workhorse and beat the hell out of it?

Every single one I have seen is in PRISTINE condition! Show those well played ones!

Tyler finishes appear to be very tough. Some are played out, but the tough finish might give the impression they aren't a "workhorse" guitar.

:dunno

[Brian Chan]

my Tyler SE HD is my workhorse guitar...But I agree with J.T. Guitar...the finish of Tyler is very tough..

[Shark Diver]

Yeah, I play mine 5 hours a night every weekend. But it looks pretty mint still.

[Flinto2002]

REALLY hard to see wear on a mat finish guitar that has so much going on in the paint. You'd hardly notice a chip in a burning water, it would just look like part of the finish.

I've been playing my burning water since 2003 and all that has happened is the finish has glossed up on the neck and parts of the body. The pickguards get beat, but I change pickups so much that I'm already on my 5th guard.

Tyler finishes are pretty tough

How many of you guys use your Tyler as a workhorse and beat the hell out of it?

Every single one I have seen is in PRISTINE condition! Show those well played ones!

[WordisRed]

what kind of finish does Tyler use on solid colors? Poly or nitro?

[Flinto2002]

Poly, but you can request nitro. Shmears and vomits are proprietary, but I think poly based

what kind of finish does Tyler use on solid colors? Poly or nitro?

[TikiJoe]

what kind of finish does Tyler use on solid colors? Poly or nitro?

Mine is a gloss Arctic Mint. I'm guessing it's poly. It's an '07 and looks brand new but it gets played out. Of course I've only had it for a few months so it shouldn't have many dings. I don't know how much it was gigged before I got it.

[Ahess86]

Poly, but you can request nitro. Shmears and vomits are proprietary, but I think poly based

I thought you can't spray nitro in California? Either I'm mistaken or does he send nitro jobs out of state?

[John Alexander]

...so here's a very recent and cool clip with Wayne Krantz, Keith Carlock and Tim Lefebvre...of course, Krantz is playing his black Tyler with the gaffer tape over part of the headstock logo...;)

...kind of goes with the whole Tyler sense-of humor...

http://www.youtube.com/user/hudsonmusicdvd#p/u/2/yiF9jl2QHQ8