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Heady Jam Fan
01-08-2011, 01:12 PM
I am thinking about buying a dual, stereo delay pedal, but I am not sure which to get. I want stereo in and out so I can run it after my stereo chorus. I wanted to be able to program it so I have a very short delay on all of the time, just to kind of thicken my sound, and I wanted to be able to switch on a longer delay when playing solos etc. I know there are many dual delay pedals that are stereo capable, but I dont know if any have the ability of switching on and off one delay while the other is on constantly. I guess the other option is using presets?

Thanks for your input!
Jon

4nd3h
01-08-2011, 01:25 PM
What's wrong with getting two delays?

Pietro
01-08-2011, 01:27 PM
M9... problem solved. switch between delays or run one into another, and you still have another bank if you want it for some other effect.

4nd3h
01-08-2011, 01:29 PM
Also, Red Witch Titan.

Heady Jam Fan
01-08-2011, 01:30 PM
What's wrong with getting two delays?

Using two would result in delaying the delay - the signal from the first delay would be delayed by the second, which would probably cause a lot of extraneous noise.

doralin
01-08-2011, 10:33 PM
Using two would result in delaying the delay - the signal from the first delay would be delayed by the second, which would probably cause a lot of extraneous noise.
You're not getting it..

Run the left of the stereo chorus into one delay, and run the right of the stereo chorus into the other delay. Presto, stereo delay.

ChorusCrackpot
01-08-2011, 10:46 PM
I am thinking about buying a dual, stereo delay pedal, but I am not sure which to get. I want stereo in and out so I can run it after my stereo chorus. I wanted to be able to program it so I have a very short delay on all of the time, just to kind of thicken my sound, and I wanted to be able to switch on a longer delay when playing solos etc. I know there are many dual delay pedals that are stereo capable, but I dont know if any have the ability of switching on and off one delay while the other is on constantly. I guess the other option is using presets?

Thanks for your input!
Jon

I use a Boss DD-20, which does exactly what you want. It has a dual delay setting- just set your multiple delay setting the way you want, then set an equivalent short delay on another setting. Easy peasy. :drink

Macaroni
01-08-2011, 11:39 PM
The Eventide Timefactor will do all of that and more.

Heady Jam Fan
01-09-2011, 10:46 AM
You're not getting it..

Run the left of the stereo chorus into one delay, and run the right of the stereo chorus into the other delay. Presto, stereo delay.

No I do get it, I didn't know if you meant to use two delays for separate stereo channels after the chorus or in the effect loop, one after the other. My original response was assuming you meant one after the other because that is the only way to have two different delay's (short and long) in stereo (playing out of both amps) using two pedals as you described. With the other method, you could get a short delay on one amp and a longer delay on the other or set them both the same (short or long). I know some people do this, but it sounds weird, for example, to have a long delay on only one side when playing in stereo. That is why there are stereo delay pedals with two inputs and two outputs, using the dual delay setting allows for both a short and long delay and some of those pedals even have presets so you can switch between short, long, short and long or other settings. I think something like that, a dual stereo delay (title of thread) makes more sense than buying two pedals.

Heady Jam Fan
01-09-2011, 10:48 AM
I use a Boss DD-20, which does exactly what you want. It has a dual delay setting- just set your multiple delay setting the way you want, then set an equivalent short delay on another setting. Easy peasy. :drink

Yea, I am thinking the DD20 is the best option. Any comparable pedal costs significantly more and I just want a few simple settings. I like that it has presets too, can switch from a short delay while playing rhythm to a dual delay for lead/solos.

jezzbo
01-09-2011, 11:52 AM
Timefactor.

delayman
01-09-2011, 12:19 PM
Sounds like the Timefactor to me.

Heady Jam Fan
01-09-2011, 01:01 PM
heard good things about the timefactor, but is it worth the price? Is it better than the boss?

Macaroni
01-09-2011, 01:09 PM
It's definitely worth the price. I got mine new for $350 2 years ago. I'm sure there's some used ones floating around.

fulltone1989
01-09-2011, 01:20 PM
I have a Stereo memory man with hazari over on HC, http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2727352-EHX-Nano-Small-Stone-and-Stereo-Memory-Man-With-Hazari

Stormbringer
01-09-2011, 01:26 PM
The Eventide Timefactor will do all of that and more.


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rreiser
01-09-2011, 01:49 PM
Digitech Timebender

LilSteve
01-09-2011, 02:37 PM
DD20 only allows for 100ms on the short delay...so can't do say 350 ms and 700ms..

Heady Jam Fan
01-09-2011, 03:59 PM
DD20 only allows for 100ms on the short delay...so can't do say 350 ms and 700ms..

Can't the longer delays do the 350-700ms?

I also can't find any information on how running stereo through this pedal changes its function. I would suspect that short delays when running in stereo ought to be dry signal on the left output and wet on the right (or opposite). This does not seem to be the case though as far as I can tell, the stereo inputs and outputs seem to only function to retain a stereo signal going into the pedal (such as using a stereo chorus).

If this is the case, I cannot see much point in a 10-50ms delay, which I was hoping to use. If there stereo signal is not split between wet and dry, then it might make more sense to get a DD3 and only use it on one side of the stereo signal using the direct output. However, I feel like that could really change how a stereo chorus would function.

Heady Jam Fan
01-09-2011, 04:07 PM
*PS info on the DD7 suggest that, when used in stereo, one is wet and the other dry for short delays. Still not sure if this is the case for the DD20

LilSteve
01-09-2011, 07:32 PM
No, on the DD20 the dual delays are not equal, meaning you cant have one at 350ms and the other at 700ms. They call one short and the other long. The short is limited to only 100ms, the longer will go up to the full 26 seconds. So you limited on one of the delays...