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BSHARP
01-12-2011, 07:37 AM
I'm not a huge fan of the band 'Avenged Sevenfold' but, I do like the guitar solos performed by Lead Guitarist Synyster Gates. He puts out a very interesting and unique combination of notes. Take a listen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyIlKNjRB94&feature=fvst
Les Paul Guy
01-12-2011, 07:44 AM
How dare you post clips of a non-tgp approved guitarist?
Syn/Brian is a great player - good mix of taste and flash. Oddly enough he's both underrated AND overrated...take here, where people will look at the tats or (in the older days) the makeup and not care what he sounds like...but the scene kids think he's the best ever.
Great sense of humor too.
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Stratofreak
01-12-2011, 08:12 AM
Not a fan of AS either, but do have a nostalgic liking of SG's solos.
Being that they are from O.C., I can hear a big influence on SG's guitar work. Back in the day, Leatherwolf (also from O.C.) had a huge following in the SoCal area. They released a few albums on EMI then disappeared. They were a 2 guitar metal act and the lead singer also played leads for a 3 guitar thing.
Definitely hear their influence.
IMO, what he's doing has already been done, but he does it well and he's exposing a style of guitar that the newer generation may not have had experienced otherwise.
Les Paul Guy
01-12-2011, 08:39 AM
Why does someone have to reinvent the wheel to be respected as a player?
IMO, what he's doing has already been done, but he does it well and he's exposing a style of guitar that the newer generation may not have had experienced otherwise.
I don't really like Avenged Sevenfold's music very much, but he is an excellent guitarist.
Kind of like if Slash and Dimebag had a baby...
Stratofreak
01-12-2011, 09:26 AM
Why does someone have to reinvent the wheel to be respected as a player?
I'm not sure what about my post show disrespect to Syn Gates as a player.
I simply referenced some of his influences.
Back in 1989, while I attended GIT, that "neo-classical" metal style was prevalent.
But if we need to get technical about it, Yngwie Malmsteen brought that style forward in a way that was the closest to the overwhelming influence that Jimi and EVH did prior to Yngwie.
But Yngwie took his influences (Blackmore, J.S. Bach, Paganni, etc.) and put his own spin on it.
Again, IMO, what Syn Gates is currently doing is really very close to the "neo-classical" shredders from back in the day. No disrespect to him, just my opinion.
FWIW, I think a few more years, albums, tours, etc., I'm sure he'll mature into a style that will be much more his own. How old is he? Mid 20's?
CRAIG4FSU
01-12-2011, 09:40 AM
From wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synyster_Gates
Early life
Haner attended Mayfair High School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayfair_High_School) in Lakewood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood,_California), but he later transferred and graduated from Ocean View High School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_View_High_School) in Huntington Beach, California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huntington_Beach,_California).
He studied at the Musicians Institute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musicians_Institute) in Hollywood as part of the Guitar Institute of Technology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Institute_of_Technology) program, studying jazz guitar. After six or so months of being there, he got a phone call from The Rev (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rev) asking him if he wanted to join his band, Avenged Sevenfold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenged_Sevenfold), as lead guitarist. Haner joined rather than continuing his education and becoming a studio musician. Up until that time he was primarily self-taught by watching music videos and reading books. His father, Brian Haner, Sr. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Haner), is a songwriter and guitarist.
Les Paul Guy
01-12-2011, 09:48 AM
Papa Gates (Brian Haner Sr.) is pretty talented too.
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yfeefy
01-12-2011, 10:22 AM
They are another band (in a list a mile long) that are ruined by horrible vocals. IMHO....
The Last Rebel
01-12-2011, 10:34 AM
Why does someone have to reinvent the wheel to be respected as a player?
It's more the fact that A7X is so incredibly derivative, they're almost indistinguishable from any other ClearChannel metal band. IMO of course.
That's not to say that Synyster isn't talented, he is. It's just that I really dislike the genre he plays in.
BSHARP
01-12-2011, 11:06 AM
It is really difficult to find the right bunch of band mates to team up with. It would be interesting to see how S.G.'s music would evolve if teamed up with another bunch of fellows. Time and a bit of luck will tell.
Bob Maximus
01-12-2011, 11:16 AM
It's more the fact that A7X is so incredibly derivative, they're almost indistinguishable from any other ClearChannel metal band. IMO of course.
That's not to say that Synyster isn't talented, he is. It's just that I really dislike the genre he plays in.
I don't know, I think they're pretty distinguishable. I can tell A7X within a few notes, even if I haven't heard the song before. The guitarist's tone is kind'of anti-Allman Brothers to me. Where the ABB harmony solos were/are thick, humbucker through a Marshall (or similar), DS's solos and the harmony runs they do sound like they're pulled right out the metal setting on a POD.
"That's not to say that Synyster isn't talented, he is" . Yeah I agree with you there. He's a smokin player.
Les Paul Guy
01-12-2011, 11:17 AM
Funny, because he usually uses a combination of 2-3 Bogners, Mesas and Marshalls for his rhythm and solo tones in the studio, and used Uberschalls live for years before Marshall paid him a silly amount of money to switch to Marshalls.
solos and the harmony runs they do sound like they're pulled right out the metal setting on a POD.
"That's not to say that Synyster isn't talented, he is" . Yeah I agree with you there. He's a smokin player.
Bob Maximus
01-12-2011, 11:26 AM
Funny, because he usually uses a combination of 2-3 Bogners, Mesas and Marshalls for his rhythm and solo tones in the studio, and used Uberschalls live for years before Marshall paid him a silly amount of money to switch to Marshalls.
Yeah, I can see that on the chunky rythm work...but the solos? They must have those amps wound real tight to sound that thin.
Les Paul Guy
01-12-2011, 11:28 AM
My guess is that comes more from the Invader pickups...thin is the name of the game with those things.
Yeah, I can see that on the chunky rythm work...but the solos? They must have those amps wound real tight to sound that thin.
Allen in San Jose
01-12-2011, 12:00 PM
Honestly, he's a very good player, but he's not really "cutting-edge" or unique IMO.
The Last Rebel
01-12-2011, 01:46 PM
Honestly, he's a very good player, but he's not really "cutting-edge" or unique IMO.
I guess that'd be my main problem with him. He's a talented guy, but there are probably hundreds of talented metal guitarists. He just doesn't stand out playing the same, tired riffs and lines At The Gates, In Flames, and Dark Tranquility played twenty years ago.
Les Paul Guy
01-12-2011, 02:10 PM
See the bold parts and the problem with your statement. Not comparing one guy to another but...seriously?:aok
I guess that'd be my main problem with Joe Bonamassa. He's a talented guy, but there are probably hundreds of talented blues guitarists. He just doesn't stand out playing the same, tired riffs and lines Eric Johnson, Eric Clapton and Stevie Ray Vaughan played twenty years ago.
atquinn
01-12-2011, 02:24 PM
But, umm, isn't that the exact problem many people have with Joe Bonamassa? :D
-Austin
guitarplayaman
01-12-2011, 02:31 PM
I just watched a few clips to see what his story is. Can't really say I am impressed. His playing feels very mechanical.
I will be an exception because I really like Avenged Sevenfold. The first tune I heard from them was Almost Easy and I loved it. The singer has a killer voice so I am very surprised to hear someone in this thread say the band is ruined by horrible vocals. Just like someone else said, I can tell it is them with the first few notes so I would not call them repetitive or say they sound like a lot of other bands. I should also say I really like the self titled albums and the newest one, Nightmare. I am not a big fan of the old stuff. The self titled cd is of my all time favorites. I also think the guitarist is really good. He has a nice compositional approach to his melodies and it is nice to hear some good guitar work for a change. They are one of the few heavy bands these days that I like.
Jarvig
01-12-2011, 03:07 PM
Seize The Day is monster solo. Love it.
This a norwegian cover (very Slash'ish)
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The Last Rebel
01-12-2011, 03:46 PM
See the bold parts and the problem with your statement. Not comparing one guy to another but...seriously?:aok
I don't listen to blues so I can't really comment on the validity of that. I can however tell tutu that I am tired of bands shamelessly aping Swedish melodeath bands.
Les Paul Guy
01-12-2011, 03:54 PM
Come on, man...they are guilty of their fair share of cheesiness..but ripping off Swedish melodeath? Really? These guys are all about Pantera, Guns N Roses, Metallica and Iron Maiden and they aren't shy about it, neither in their interviews nor their songwriting.
I don't listen to blues so I can't really comment on the validity of that. I can however tell tutu that I am tired of bands shamelessly aping Swedish melodeath bands.
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